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ubuntu_demon
December 9th, 2004, 09:00 PM
Hi,

There are still users who have old pc's.

How about co-operation between beatrIX and Ubuntu ?

One goal of Grumpy is an option for an antique/lightweight desktop. Maybe you could join forces on this one ? Maybe Ubuntu can learn from beatrIX. Maybe beatrIX developers want to help with the antique/lightweight desktop ?

jdodson
December 9th, 2004, 10:04 PM
Hi,

There are still users who have old pc's.

How about co-operation between beatrIX and Ubuntu ?

One goal of Grumpy is an option for an antique/lightweight desktop. Maybe you could join forces on this one ? Maybe Ubuntu can learn from beatrIX. Maybe beatrIX developers want to help with the antique/lightweight desktop ?

i think what they have is really cool. i am downloading an iso now. i think this is a great option for people with slow computers.

ubuntu_demon
December 9th, 2004, 11:24 PM
I would like to quote myself from :

Ubuntu blues
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=31558&posted=1#post31558



What about Grumpy's User Templates ?

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrumpyGroundhog

Among these templates are :
-Antique desktop :minimum memory / processor requirements?

-Ubuntu Junior : Large icons. Access to games like tuxracer and applications like tuxpaint.

-Ubuntu Game Station

it would be nice to make Ubuntu derivates and User templates the same thing. If someone wants a lot of games he installs "Ubuntu Game Station". Some volunteers could oversee which packages from the official ubuntu repositories would be installed. Those volunteers could also take up the job of getting a specific package into universe because they need it for their derivative/user template.

For example the guys from beatrIX could work on the user template Antique desktop if Ubuntu and BeatrIX would want that.

ubuntu_demon
December 10th, 2004, 01:21 AM
linuxtimes.net Product Reviews: BeatrIX GNU/Linux
http://linuxtimes.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=435

oskarku
December 10th, 2004, 02:33 AM
The Linuxtimes article doesn't take into our pre-release final, just released Thursday on Distrowatch.

As for working together, we certainly are open to suggestions. We love Ubuntu and it's rocking on this Opteron right now.

Come over to our homepage and you'll find my e-mail address at the bottom. I use a challenge/response spam filter, so you'd better be a real human and not an Electrolux vacuum cleaner. Just kidding.

Let's chat and see how we can help eadh other.

oskarku (Steven Watsky)

ubuntu_demon
December 10th, 2004, 04:06 PM
The Linuxtimes article doesn't take into our pre-release final, just released Thursday on Distrowatch.

As for working together, we certainly are open to suggestions. We love Ubuntu and it's rocking on this Opteron right now.

Come over to our homepage and you'll find my e-mail address at the bottom. I use a challenge/response spam filter, so you'd better be a real human and not an Electrolux vacuum cleaner. Just kidding.

Let's chat and see how we can help eadh other.

oskarku (Steven Watsky)
I'm not an Ubuntu developer. I'm just a nerd with an opinion :). I hope someone from Canonical will read this.

BWF89
December 10th, 2004, 04:57 PM
I read the review of Bertix on Linuxtimes.net and it sounds ok. I think I'll download it when I get home. Mabye it'll make it into my "active live CD" rotation. Which at the moment consists of just Ubuntu live and Morphix...

ubuntu_demon
December 10th, 2004, 05:19 PM
I'm gonna try it next time I have to help someone with an old pc.

ubuntu_demon
December 16th, 2004, 08:16 AM
just noticed on distrowatch that BeatrIX is now more popular than linspire and gnoppix

jdong
December 16th, 2004, 02:38 PM
I'm gonna try it next time I have to help someone with an old pc.

While you're at that, can you see if XFCE 4.2 backports reallly run faster than GNOME on old systems?

ubuntu_demon
December 16th, 2004, 04:26 PM
While you're at that, can you see if XFCE 4.2 backports reallly run faster than GNOME on old systems?
haven't tried beatrIX yet too be honest. The stuff I read on their website and the articles about it just looked promising. It uses gnome 2.8 by default. I don't know whether they support XFCE.

I'm gonna play with beatrIX on some old pc when I have the time or need.

BWF89
December 16th, 2004, 05:53 PM
BeatrIX wasn't that great. Mabye had I been running an older PC. But it didn't even come with The GIMP...

jdodson
December 16th, 2004, 06:24 PM
BeatrIX wasn't that great. Mabye had I been running an older PC. But it didn't even come with The GIMP...

yeah. in the end i realized that it wasnt that much faster than ubuntu, perhaps it was a little faster. i like the more options that ubuntu has, in the end i am going to stick with ubuntu.

ubuntu_demon
December 16th, 2004, 07:45 PM
yeah. in the end i realized that it wasnt that much faster than ubuntu, perhaps it was a little faster. i like the more options that ubuntu has, in the end i am going to stick with ubuntu.
Because I've got newer pc's I don't wanna run beatrIX. But it's nice to have a version of Ubuntu specifically designed for running on older hardware.

oskarku
December 27th, 2004, 07:52 PM
Greetings,

BeatrIX is a very specific distribution and it purposefully has nothing but the basics. The Gimp, Abiword, Screem, Totem, Xine, Courier and many programs (Not all, by any means.) can be added thrugh apt-get. Which is what our users are doing: Using BeatrIX as a base and then expanding it the way they want -- making it into a DVD player, a server, whatever.

We're certainly not trying to compete with anyone because my design goal did not start with Linux -- that was secondary. My design goal was to find a desktop with programs that almost anyone who had used a computer in the past decade could figure out with little instruction. Then came Linux. Then came Ubuntu.

We do load a bit faster on just about any machine, but that's because we've really stripped the kernel of any library not having to do with the desktop, i.e., Gnome. We have zero-library support for KDE or any other desktop you might consider and our users have reported that trying to changes WMs breaks the distro.

BTW, on this Opteron-64, my distro is, yes, Ubuntu. I love it. It's the best, period, for a full distro. Kudos, guys. We were using Debian until we started reading about your goals.

Thanks and cheers,

oskarku

Deusiah
May 3rd, 2005, 10:00 AM
yeah. in the end i realized that it wasnt that much faster than ubuntu, perhaps it was a little faster. i like the more options that ubuntu has, in the end i am going to stick with ubuntu.

I just wanted to say that it was Beatrix that first got me into Ubuntu. I was looking for a distro to run on an old laptop, however I liked it that much I run in on my desktop (Athlon 64 3200+, 1GB DDR RAM) and it flew, it was by far the fastest distro I have ever used to date. Firefox opened almost instantly and OOo opened in around 2-3 seconds! I'm now using Ubuntu Hoary on my desktop however as there were many things I would have liked in Beatrix, for example the hotplug system didn't seem to work and I had no joy with ndiswrapper. As for the software selection that was never a problem as apt-get solved that.

Beatrix is a great distro that I would certainly consider using again on my main desktop.

poofyhairguy
May 3rd, 2005, 08:45 PM
While you're at that, can you see if XFCE 4.2 backports reallly run faster than GNOME on old systems?

I can answer that. XFCE 4.2 runs faster on systems with less that 256mb RAM. 256 or more and Gnome runs just as fast.

oddabe19
May 4th, 2005, 04:29 AM
quite honestly, we were talking about beatrix on #ubuntu-forums just yesterday, and there has been some disgust with the developers, that noone really knows anything except "you have to reinstall".

some people can't even get it booted, and apparently it's a pretty bad distro.

that's just what i've heard though.

I'm perfectly happy with my Ubuntu/gentoo install. :-D