Well it would appear that even Bill Gates has given up on Vista haha

[SkittleLinux18]

Windows 7 Announced! (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23958862/)

[Tomatz]

Vista is the next windows ME!

:lolflag:

[BluntBox]

Had to install Vista on a work machine today, I was entirely sick of it before the 50 minute long install + sp1 update process had finished.

[M_the_C]

This version of Windows has flaws, so your going to rush the next one? Could someone please explain this logic?

Besides Vista isn't that bad. The only major flaws for Linux users are ideological ones, and the next version of Windows won't change that.

[elmer_42]

Actually, they are just going back to what they used to do: put out a new operating system every two to three years. 95 -> 98 -> 2000. See? Something just happened and XP was it for a few years.

[jrharvey]

If the rumors are true then it has nothing to do with windows vista sucking, although it surely does. Windows 7 is supposed to be the platform for alot of new and very cool things to come. Things like a touche screen OS to power the microsoft surface (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP5y7yp06n0). In about 5 years we are going to be doing things alot different, or at least i hope.

[original_jamingrit]

I wonder if they're just saying that, to stop people from abandoning the windows platform. After hearing this, I'm sure some windows-user considering migration Mac or Linux would then decide to wait another year. But do they really plan to release it when they say they are?

Probably, but then again they've come up with worse lies.

[K.Mandla]

Moved to Windows discussions.

[Kilz]

I wonder if they're just saying that, to stop people from abandoning the windows platform. After hearing this, I'm sure some windows-user considering migration Mac or Linux would then decide to wait another year. But do they really plan to release it when they say they are?

Probably, but then again they've come up with worse lies.

Its standard Microsoft, announce next edition (vaporware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware)) to distract just how bad the current version really is. The timetable gives it away. Windows 7 in a year? IMHO they should add at least 4-5 years to that based on past performance.

[bigbrovar]

If the rumors are true then it has nothing to do with windows vista sucking, although it surely does. Windows 7 is supposed to be the platform for alot of new and very cool things to come. Things like a touche screen OS to power the microsoft surface (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP5y7yp06n0). In about 5 years we are going to be doing things alot different, or at least i hope.

we ve heard all this b4 ... did u remember what there said vista would offer ... then they called it longhorn or some **** it that it was suppose to be the best thing since slice bread ... talk is cheap ..

[jrharvey]

we ve heard all this b4 ... did u remember what there said vista would offer ... then they called it longhorn or some **** it that it was suppose to be the best thing since slice bread ... talk is cheap ..

Microsoft does have a bad habbit of big talk. I remember when the first announcement of vista was released, they claimed that it would control everything in your house from the TV, Movies, Sterio, cameras, lights, appliances. I can barely keep vista running on a new computer, how am i suppose to turn on my dishwasher? Ok so maybe it was rediculous to think that somehow a computer would control your house in that short of a time but it just shows that they like bite off more than they can chew. As far as home entertainment goes, apple doesnt talk half as big and they really only say what they know they can do yet somehow they have made more advancements.

[Midwest-Linux]

What I gather from this, it seems Gates is in favor of abandoning Vista, but Ballmer seems in favor of keeping it. Recent comments by Gates included talk of Windows -7 being released next year and sales of Vista weren't up to expectations.

Yet Ballmer says Vista is a work in progress and that they are standing behind Vista. Do sense a "slight struggle" in the Castle of Redmond? And add to this the news stories of executives leaving MSFT supposedly over the Vista issues. Internal struggles?

Some even have suggested that MSFT should release Windows FLP to the general public and call it "Windows Classic". Windows FLP is a lean running version of XP that was released only to software assurance/enterprise subscribers.

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/sa/benefits/fundamentals.mspx

Exciting times ahead. :)

[LaRoza]

Actually, they are just going back to what they used to do: put out a new operating system every two to three years. 95 -> 98 -> 2000. See? Something just happened and XP was it for a few years.

Windows 98 is not distinct from 95. 95 with all of its updates is Windows 98.

Windows 2000 is based on NT, which was made in 1993.

[arvevans]

Since Microsoft now has an "agreement" with Suse, I wonder if Windows-7 might come out with a Linux Kernal and Xorg for window management? Probably not, but it could be a good rumor to start circulating!
:)

Arv
_._

[LaRoza]

Since Microsoft now has an "agreement" with Suse, I wonder if Windows-7 might come out with a Linux Kernal and Xorg for window management? Probably not, but it could be a good rumor to start circulating!
:)

Arv
_._

That doesn't make sense....

Novell doesn't control Linux, and the Linux kernel is free to use.

[aimpau]

Best rumor>>

I hear Windows 7 will be open source....Good luck in removing the Blue Screen of Plagued Death! :)

[kamaboko]

Had to install Vista on a work machine today, I was entirely sick of it before the 50 minute long install + sp1 update process had finished.

That must have been one slow *** machine and internet connection. My Vista Ultimate 64 bit took all of 2o minutes to install. SP1 took less time than the 194 udates that Gutsy required after a fresh install a few weeks ago.

[smoker]

that's one way to double your profits, i suppose, get all the poor disappointed people who paid hundreds of pounds for vista retail, to fork out the same again, or maybe more, for a better(!) version so soon after!

if windows7 turns out to be ME3, i think that will be the last straw for even the windows diehards!

[SkittleLinux18]

I really like what everybody has had to say on here - not that any of you need my approval. I seriously think that Microsoft knows they messed up with Vista. The same thing happened with WindowsME. It was so bad that they quickly had to release XP.

(Or was it Windows2000 they released to recover from WinME before going to XP? I don't remember, but I am sure you all know the exact time frame I am talking about and everything that happened.)

Anyway, I agree with the strategy that was mentioned above. To add to it, competition is not the only thing needed for statements like these in this article. Whether internal or external, I believe that this is correct. Furthermore, stocks and other market shares are enough to bring about "strategic movements" from Microsoft.

Secondly, look at the economy in the United States. I'm sure many of you live outside of the US and because of it may not know the gravity of the situation. It's not good. Our economy here in the US has not been this bad since the end of the depression. Many economists are even saying it's worse than what we saw in the 1970's. To make matters worse, they believe we're only in the 4th inning of a 9 inning ball game. A lot of companies have had to come out with cheaper products, services, and sales. My point isn't to turn this into an economy thread. Rather to say that Microsoft is probably doing this because they want to do something similar. A more simplified OS would be work better than Vista and would also be less expensive. The type of product that saves face at Microsoft and is marketable in such a struggling economy.

I realize that Microsoft is an international business. That does not change the fact that the company will still suffer greatly if sales in the US are way down because of our rapidly-growing recession.

[Midwest-Linux]

Secondly, look at the economy in the United States. I'm sure many of you live outside of the US and because of it may not know the gravity of the situation. It's not good. Our economy here in the US has not been this bad since the end of the depression.

I realize that Microsoft is an international business. That does not change the fact that the company will still suffer greatly if sales in the US are way down because of our rapidly-growing recession.

Not to sound pessimistic, but its bad all over and thats among the strong reasons for all these government entities, countries, school districts having open source mandates in Europe, France, Switzerland, Philippines, Russia, South Africa.

Open source mandates are going to hurt MSFT more in the long run, than mistakes with releasing Vista, the EU fines, and whatever else. Linux will be the clear winner in all of this, with the open source mandates falling right into Linux' lap.

I been checking the Vista forums, not only are there Linux and Apple forums there, but there are Vista users who are dual booting with Ubuntu and trying out other Linux' live CDs. A lot of the Vista users seem to be die hard Windows fans, yet they are willing to try Linux.

Thats good progress.

[Tomatz]

Not to sound pessimistic, but its bad all over and thats among the strong reasons for all these government entities, countries, school districts having open source mandates in Europe, France, Switzerland, Philippines, Russia, South Africa.

Open source mandates are going to hurt MSFT more in the long run, than mistakes with releasing Vista, the EU fines, and whatever else. Linux will be the clear winner in all of this, with the open source mandates falling right into Linux' lap.

I been checking the Vista forums, not only are there Linux and Apple forums there, but there are Vista users who are dual booting with Ubuntu and trying out other Linux' live CDs. A lot of the Vista users seem to be die hard Windows fans, yet they are willing to try Linux.

Thats good progress.


When most of your xp software no longer work's. Not to mention hardware.

Whats the point in staying with m$?