Thundera 1.0 (Coyote)

[Thundera]

http://thundera.987mb.com/

Thundura 1.0, otherwise known as Thundura Coyote, will be released in the summer, are probably even sooner if we can hire staff.

What is Thundera?
Well Thundera is a Linux OS based off of goBunt, my favorite distrobution. Those roots will always be honored.

This OS is a basic but feature packed project. This OS will feature a office Suite, Security Tools, and more. It is kind of based in the Mac Os Style, and we use animals from the Canis Genus for the names.

The names are as follow:
Thundura 1.0 Coyote
Thundura 1.1 Jackal
Thundura 1.2 Fox
Thundura 1.3 Arctic Fox
Thundura 1.4 Dingo
Thundura 1.5 Wolf

And I probably will be supporting and updating up to a 2.0, and than if it is still around, or even succesful, give it over to the staff and community.

What I need?
A staff and people to help bare goBuntu down and add the utilites I would want added. I will try to do the whole first version.

If this can even launch off, I will set up a forum and site soon.

Thanks for reading, lets get this a famous Ubuntu Distro, in honor of Ubuntu!

UPDATE 04.18.08
- Amazing Wireless internet feature added (Making wi-fi easier for linux)
- Dock
- Time Machine (We are still working out the kinks)
- With time machine, maybe an internet storage system meh thinks.


NEW UPDATE-MAY
Started Dev, name changed from Thundera, to Thundura, to have a play on words, as in Dura for durability and durable.

[wolfen69]

what niche is this project trying to fill? what sets it apart? just wondering.

[Thundera]

Heightened Security, Awesome Productivity suite powered by Open Office, Lots of features, Well I need staff and people intrested to suggest features first ;) an awesome theme, a dock, and a Mac OS X kind of feeling. Also some secret Ideas I had.

[SunnyRabbiera]

well for a OSX like feel Dreamlinux already fits the bill, is this targeted at OSX users?

[Thundera]

Yeah. It will look different of course, I just wanted to do that, Thundera 2, if I am still doing it and reach that point might changes gears to its own super fly theme. I think this one will have that too.

This is a project, and I plan to just have better options. I am welcome to here recomendations suggestions and whatnot.

[liquidfunk]

If its aimed at OSX users, try making it so it will run on MacBooks.

[Thundera]

It will work on any intel based Mac. As for non intel based, if you wanted to join the dev team, after this version comes out you could try your hand at adapting it to PPC.

[liquidfunk]

Personally PPC Mac compatibility doesn't bother me. Mine is Intel, does this mean that you are planning on including the Wireless drivers etc?

I don't think you should try and make it look like a Mac, why not make it look like something no-one has seen before, something that make people feel interested in seeing.

If it looks like a Mac running on a Macbook, people won't care, whereas if its something really different looking, people will be intrigued about it.

[Thundera]

It will have a similar, not exact.

As for drivers, I do not know every single person's so they will have to do it themselves, but it will have the interface installed that works like windows Wi-fi connection.

In future version, it will probably recieve a wild new theme.

[Thundera]

BUMP :p

[ErusGuleilmus]

How many people are currently working on this?

[MetalMusicAddict]

Great! Another distro based around a theme. I'm sorry, but this is just getting silly.

And before you say it's not about a theme, it's the overwhelming thing mentioned in this thread.

But rock on. Only the strong survive.

[Thundera]

Me, and I will start Beta Now that 8.04 is out, or should I use 7.10?

GoBuntu is still 7.10 as I noticed...So I might wait till they changed that.

And your right, it is not based around a theme.
Its based about what I have ALWAYS wanted in a Distro. My Name is Thundera, hence why the distro is called that :p

I am looking for staff and opinions, and maybe someone who can host a forum.

[ErusGuleilmus]

Great! Another distro based around a theme. I'm sorry, but this is just getting silly.

And before you say it's not about a theme, it's the overwhelming thing mentioned in this thread.

But rock on. Only the strong survive.

What is this accomplishing, other then just pissing the guy off?

[ErusGuleilmus]

I don't have much programing or development experience, but I would to try and help with anything I can.

[Thundera]

So would you like to join Dev, for 1, I will be coding and working on it with my father and brother, since it will be made on the pc I am about to buy in a month or two. (I am buying a crappy p3, cause I do not wanna mess up my brand new core duo comp)

Anyways, if your joining its cool.
I need a web host thats decent. I was thinking about 987mb, which I probably will do. Once that, I will set up a forum, you could moderate the forums for me, and maybe you can help think of new features and stuff for the OS.

[liquidfunk]

You know what, if there is anything I could do to help, I would be interested in doing so.

I started making a distribution for my Final Project at College (which turn out going down in flames due to lack of resources).

Maybe I could help with the Market Research, as in what the market needs at the moment? What could the current computing market benefit from.

Or I could just be a bug tester and try out each build to see how well it goes?

Or even be the 'Tutorial writing guy'?

I'm quite interested now :D

[Thundera]

Maybe. If you could figure out what people want in an os.
Tuts sure, bug test awesome!
If so, so far its:

Project Leader/Owner:
Thundera

Research:
liquidfunk

General Staff:
ErusGuleilmus

Of course this is free though...So no pay :P I am 13 anyways, not much credit.

[Changturkey]

Is there a reason it is based only on GoBuntu?

[Thundera]

No, goBuntu just seemed like a good base. It is not clear at the moment. I am open to recommendations, I am thinking of using FreeBSD as the base. Any ideas on what I should use?
LIST:
Debian
FreeBSD
goBuntu

[Frak]

What is this accomplishing, other then just pissing the guy off?

He's just stating a very clear point. There have been many distributions to come and go because they really had no purpose. They only wanted to show off new artwork and whatnot. (I'm looking at you ShiftLinux)

No, goBuntu just seemed like a good base. It is not clear at the moment. I am open to recommendations, I am thinking of using FreeBSD as the base. Any ideas on what I should use?
LIST:
Debian
FreeBSD
goBuntu

Debian - If you want stable, then you will get EXTREMELY stable (and EXTREMELY old) programs. If you want testing or experimental, you can expect VERY new programs. i.e. sid and lenny.

FreeBSD - Great for a server OS, but not much for a desktop OS. It is VERY rock solid, but lacks support for some hardware that even Linux supports. One pro against Linux is that it can run programs created for both Linux AND Unix, unlike Linux that can only run programs created for Linux. (unless you install compatibility layers like wine, etc.)

goBuntu - A nice mix between stable and unstable. Supported by a company that has full support for its own distributions. Finally, it is fully OSS certified, as it contains no proprietary (Nvidia, ATi, etc.) or questionably patented (Mono, certain codecs, etc.) software.

Personally, either using LFS, Debian, or GoBuntu sounds good to me.

[Changturkey]

How about Fedora, Slackware, Arch? There are only a handful of Fedora derivatives, Slackware is just awesome (Zenwalk), and Arch is really fast, and easy enough to use (Maybe a GUI for Pacman?)

[liquidfunk]

Arch is really fast, and easy enough to use (Maybe a GUI for Pacman?)

Thats a good one, I've wanted to try out Arch, but I think it puts me off a bit when having to use all text and no images.

I think a Gui for Arch would be good.

How about a distribution that has all the modern look and feel of Vista/OSX without the insane requirements. Something that could be aimed at University students, who (for example) only have a 'hand-me-down' computer only capable of running Windows 98, who want a system that doesn't embarrass them when others see it running.

I understand this would be a lot to do with the GUI theme, but it could also be interesting to see how it would pan out. Especially in terms of what interface would be included, I'm sure something like Flux/Openbox could be designed to look impressive and very easy for a Windows user to use. (I love Fluxbox anyway :D)

[Frak]

How about Fedora, Slackware, Arch? There are only a handful of Fedora derivatives, Slackware is just awesome (Zenwalk), and Arch is really fast, and easy enough to use (Maybe a GUI for Pacman?)

GTKPacman (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8027) is the Pacman GUI. You can install it from the AUR.

Thats a good one, I've wanted to try out Arch, but I think it puts me off a bit when having to use all text and no images.

I think a Gui for Arch would be good.

Well, Judd originally created Arch from Linux From Scratch (LFS) to be alot like Crux. Though, he intended it to be for Power Users and purposely tried to put off new users from using Arch. Likewise, Aaron, the new maintainer, is doing the same.

Remember that even if you use Pacman, there is still further tasks that may need to be done, such as updating the daemons list.

Finally, Arch is a build-it-yourself distribution. It comes with nothing but a console. If you want an already built, light Arch distribution, Archie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_%28Linux%29) has already attempted to fill this niche.

[liquidfunk]

There are only a handful of Fedora derivatives

I would like to see Fedora more widely used to be honest, so the possibility of it used for this Distribution would be good.

I'd hate to see the World of Linux swallowed up into JUST Ubuntu, as much as I love it, I like the idea of saying to people "Well, there is Ubuntu, but theres also 'X, Y and Z Linux' that are good because.."

Also, Fedora 9's packages and update list looks quite interesting. Maybe a good one to try.

Don't cross out Arch though, even if it isn't designed for 'newbies'. It could be redesigned so that, Yes it will still have ALL the options available, but in a more attractive fashion. So more like a very long installation of Checking boxes rather than typing in commands.

[ErusGuleilmus]

A Arch derivative would be really interesting, so would a Fedora one. Which would it be easier to make a derivative of? I'm guessing Fedora, but then again, I have no information or facts to back up that assumption.

[Frak]

A Arch derivative would be really interesting, so would a Fedora one. Which would it be easier to make a derivative of? I'm guessing Fedora, but then again, I have no information or facts to back up that assumption.
I'd think Arch would be easier, just because its not as locked in with software as fedora is.

Pro: It's somewhat UNIX-like
Cons: It's not LSB compliant

[cardinals_fan]

FreeBSD - Great for a server OS, but not much for a desktop OS. It is VERY rock solid, but lacks support for some hardware that even Linux supports. One pro against Linux is that it can run programs created for both Linux AND Unix, unlike Linux that can only run programs created for Linux. (unless you install compatibility layers like wine, etc.)

I have found FreeBSD a much better desktop OS than any Linux distro. Just my 2¢.

[Changturkey]

FaunOS does the same I think. But yeah just throwing ideas out. PC-BSD and DesktopBSD are already the major players for BSD.

[Thundera]

Ill have my staff and anyone that wants to join research.
If you wish to join PM me. I am setting up a forum and site tonight, and we can get some serious research done on Linux. I was thinking Linux from Scratch 1 year ago, when I was twelve and first hatched this idea, I got really into it, and chose all the programs, Xwin Commander (I wannted a windows like distro than, changed my mind now that I am older)

But the team will have to non-biased, research on whats the stablest, best, least cluttered fastes distro to be based on.
LFS is cool, but using gobuntu or ubuntu would speed things up greatly. Anyways, if you want a staff job, PM me.

[cyxodus]

was thinking Linux from Scratch 1 year ago, when I was twelve

You're 13? Not bad for that age.

[Thundera]

Well my brother is way older than me, and my parents, and I was introduced to the newet and best technology, and got an understanding. Though, most would think I am a nerd. If you knew me I am totaly not. I am a skater/emo/punk/metal head. The smart Nerdy side of me is the side peoples do not know :p

[wdaniels]

After reading this thread, I'm still not quite sure what you have in mind here, but I certainly wish you the best of luck with it! Sounds like the kind of thing I was always trying to do at your age, only we didn't have internet back then so I didn't get very far writing my own OS :D

PS: I have plenty of space to host stuff if you need it.

[Thundera]

I got a host with 40gigs and 600gigs bandwidth :p Thanks for the offer, if I ever need iso hosts maybe :p

[Thundera]

I got a host with 40gigs and 600gigs bandwidth :p Thanks for the offer, if I ever need iso hosts maybe :p

Lets bump this up and get it some light here :p

[Thundera]

From the dead.

[cardinals_fan]

From the dead.
What do you want people to say?

[Frak]

What do you want people to say?
Lets run it on GNU HURD.

[cardinals_fan]

Lets run it on GNU HURD.
You know what they say... GNU Hurd will be ready next year.

[Frak]

You know what they say... GNU Hurd will be ready next year.
I'm confident... enough... next year...

[Thundera]

Its Ubuntu 8.04 Based, I stated dev a week ago. :p I mean, I am only 1 thirteen year old, so chances of this making it is like 30%, but I'll try :p

[Catalyst2Death]

I think that a derivative of Arch would be interesting. While not in tradition with the "arch way" of doing things, it would certainly be easy to create a derivative distro, which set itself apart from Arch. Simply adding a gui for arch, as well as a gui for pacman would be enough to make it different (wireless support etc would also be nice)...

[Frak]

I think that a derivative of Arch would be interesting. While not in tradition with the "arch way" of doing things, it would certainly be easy to create a derivative distro, which set itself apart from Arch. Simply adding a gui for arch, as well as a gui for pacman would be enough to make it different (wireless support etc would also be nice)...
GTKPacman from the AUR (I think its moving to the community) is THE Pacman GUI.

[cardinals_fan]

I think that a derivative of Arch would be interesting. While not in tradition with the "arch way" of doing things, it would certainly be easy to create a derivative distro, which set itself apart from Arch. Simply adding a gui for arch, as well as a gui for pacman would be enough to make it different (wireless support etc would also be nice)...
I think that the KDEmod team is working on a GUI-based Arch LiveCD

[Thundera]

BY the way I change dthe name for a "play on words" to Thundura. Dura as in durability, and durable.

[Frak]

I think that the KDEmod team is working on a GUI-based Arch LiveCD
You'd be correct.

[Thundera]

I am not using arch, its final :p
Also, after I get this to a succesfull 2.0 Milestone, It will be up to the community to work on it, and do as they feel.

I will be working on a better, way better OS called Thundera Strike. Maybe if I can get permission it will be ReactOS based, to allow for Exe compatibility.

[Frak]

I am not using arch, its final :p
Also, after I get this to a succesfull 2.0 Milestone, It will be up to the community to work on it, and do as they feel.

I will be working on a better, way better OS called Thundera Strike. Maybe if I can get permission it will be ReactOS based, to allow for Exe compatibility.
I was about to joke around saying "Lets base it off of ReactOS!" but you sorta beat me to it =\

BTW, ReactOS is licensed under the BSD license, so you can use it freely.

[Thundera]

Lol, that, is no joke. ReactOS is very minimalistic, and it runs most exe's. I am very tempted to not even use ubuntu, and just use it, but alas, React has not even hit a full 1 milestone yet, so until than, we are ubuntu based. All of the thundura 1's will most likely be that way.

I am thinking of skipping coyote, and jumping Thundura 1.3 Arctic Fox as the first release.

[Thundera]

By the way, I am discontinuing this project. I just do not want to build it on Linux. Wait and in a year, or maybe a couple months I will start this back up.
Reasons->School, End of terms, Sports and marching band all summer, and I want to base this from a beta React OS>

[markharding557]

By the way, I am discontinuing this project. I just do not want to build it on Linux. Wait and in a year, or maybe a couple months I will start this back up.
Reasons->School, End of terms, Sports and marching band all summer, and I want to base this from a beta React OS>

after reading this thread i'm not sure it ever started:lolflag:

[cardinals_fan]

By the way, I am discontinuing this project. I just do not want to build it on Linux. Wait and in a year, or maybe a couple months I will start this back up.
Reasons->School, End of terms, Sports and marching band all summer, and I want to base this from a beta React OS>
I've gotta ask: why are you trying this anyway? How do you hope to improve off ReactOS?

[Frak]

I've gotta ask: why are you trying this anyway? How do you hope to improve off ReactOS?
If he could make it where ReactOS would run on ANY of my computers, even VMware, I'd use it.

[Thundera]

It did start. I figured out it does not work on VM. So yeah, back to Ubuntu. To bad I deleted my Ubuntu Setup and jumped the gun!
Well its back on. I just have twice as more work now.
I might debian base it now. I just do not know. I might use kde 4, I might use gnome, now that I deleted progress its a fresh start, what should I do now?

[buntunub]

Appreciate the desire to contribute to the Linux world, but with over 500 distro's already in the mix, and only a very small handful that are actually really used, there really is no good reason to throw yet another spinoff into the mix. A much better contribution would be to help with an existing project (Abiword, GNU Cash, Gnumeric, GIMP, etc. etc. etc.), or contribute to one of the widely used distros like Ubuntu by doing volunteer work like bug squad. This is really the best way to contribute to the community as a whole, as everyone will benefit from your kind work.

[20thCenturyBoy]

"Genius is one percent inspiration, ninety-nine percent perspiration".

[cardinals_fan]

It did start. I figured out it does not work on VM. So yeah, back to Ubuntu. To bad I deleted my Ubuntu Setup and jumped the gun!
Well its back on. I just have twice as more work now.
I might debian base it now. I just do not know. I might use kde 4, I might use gnome, now that I deleted progress its a fresh start, what should I do now?
Again I ask: what is your goal? The hardest part of making a good distro isn't building it - it's maintaining it. Judging by your on/off development so far, I really doubt your ability to maintain this OS.

[Frak]

Again I ask: what is your goal? The hardest part of making a good distro isn't building it - it's maintaining it. Judging by your on/off development so far, I really doubt your ability to maintain this OS.
I wish RAV TUX was still here. He would have some incredible insight into this (OzOS and helping some parts of gOS)

[Thundera]

Well, I said I was going to make this so no turning back. Unless. I would, well go to work for another OS. What OS's could I work for. Maybe I should just contribute to make one better, instead of making one in the sea of many.

This os was for fun, and to play around with linux. But no one has faith in me, and they are kind of right.


Its just that, what real Linux Distro needs a 13 year old on the staff? So really making my own was the best option. You guys are right, though.

Due to me being young, and schooling and stuff I hardly will probably have time to maintain this. SO what OS's can I get on with than If I do end Thundura...???

[cardinals_fan]

Its just that, what real Linux Distro needs a 13 year old on the staff? So really making my own was the best option. You guys are right, though.

Due to me being young, and schooling and stuff I hardly will probably have time to maintain this. SO what OS's can I get on with than If I do end Thundura...???
I understand 100%. I'm 14 and way too busy to even think about something like this.

Three things you could do:

1. Help a software project that interests you (not necessarily an OS). This could be either with coding, testing, or writing documentation. The nice thing about this route is that you can stop at any time if your schedule starts to overflow, unlike with an OS that needs maintenance.

2. Learn some basic programming skills (or try a new language if you already have them). I did this last summer and it's a ton of fun. Write a script a day in whatever language you choose, increasing in complexity as the summer wears on. I did Perl last year and I think I'll try Ruby this summer.

3. Spend some time off the computer! Go out for a bike ride in the fresh air!

[Frak]

Do Ruby and C# if you already know Perl. Ruby will take you no time at all, while C# is also easy to learn and is becoming a large market standard.

[cardinals_fan]

Do Ruby and C# if you already know Perl. Ruby will take you no time at all, while C# is also easy to learn and is becoming a large market standard.
I'll think about that. The script-a-day thing is remarkably entertaining. Hands-on learning at its best.

[20thCenturyBoy]

I'd be interested in seeing a Debian/Ubuntu distro based around the Gobohide kernel... if you're up to it.

[Thundera]

I get A WHOLE lot of excersise. I marched in the longest parade in the nation, or second something like that.
I am restarting this project later.