Why is Easy Ubuntu needed?

[IronWolve]

If you are back to compiling the packages you need for daily use, why stick with Ubuntu? Seems a flaw if you are back to needing a special script to download and compile applications. Everything should be in a depository of some kind for a binary distro.

What am I missing? (Im new to Ubuntu, but not *nix)

[kvidell]

If you are back to compiling the packages you need for daily use, why stick with Ubuntu? Seems a flaw if you are back to needing a special script to download and compile applications. Everything should be in a depository of some kind for a binary distro.

What am I missing? (Im new to Ubuntu, but not *nix)
Well... My understanding of it, after having looked at the title thread for about 10 seconds... is that all it's doing is making an easy, graphical way for users to tweak the most commonly tweaked settings (adding repositories, downloading and installing build-essential and video codecs, etc etc) without having to go in and change a bunch of things by hand (like apt repos, etc).

I think it's pretty cool... it makes me think of UG's whizzy-script that was floating around when Hoary first came out. That thing was awesome.

This is just a point'n'click simplification of the most tweakable, and most commonly tweaked settings. I think it's cool :)
- Kev

[poofyhairguy]

If you are back to compiling the packages you need for daily use, why stick with Ubuntu?

Because the tool does it for you.

Seems a flaw if you are back to needing a special script to download and compile applications. Everything should be in a depository of some kind for a binary distro.

Its a legal flaw Ubuntu has no control over. It is done how it is done to avoid legal problems for the distro.


What am I missing? (Im new to Ubuntu, but not *nix)

You are missing the fact that Ubuntu and the community are trying to make sure that the developers and major helpers won't be arrested if they ever set foot on U.S. soil.

[IronWolve]

Why couldnt you just host a source offshore, and then the user just had to add the source to the sources.lst and then apt-get.

Isnt that the easiest work around? I'm not counting the legal reasons, the technical reasons for a third party app.

[poofyhairguy]

Why couldnt you just host a source offshore, and then the user just had to add the source to the sources.lst and then apt-get.

Isnt that the easiest work around? I'm not counting the legal reasons, the technical reasons for a third party app.

If someone wants to be nice and set up so good off shore servers for us that would be great. Ubuntu can't do it because then it would still be held legally responsible for finacially supporting such an project. But if someone wants to do that, we will let them. In fact, a few people have set up servers with that stuff and its great.

By not counting the legal reasons you miss the entire picture. The technical reasons are little more than fantasy if legal reasons mean that Mark could be arrested on the spot if he ever entered a nation with US like laws because he paid to host something like the code needed to play DVDs.

Hosting such things in "safe" nations only works if you intend to never enter a nation where what you host would be against the law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitri_Sklyarov

[BLTicklemonster]

Why couldnt you just host a source offshore, and then the user just had to add the source to the sources.lst and then apt-get.

Isnt that the easiest work around? I'm not counting the legal reasons, the technical reasons for a third party app.
A graphical user interface is more acceptable to the common user than the command line.

Ubuntu is Linux for humans.

Humans, like electricity, tend to follow the path of least resisitance (normally).

Most people resist the command line, but flow towards GUIs.

Therefore, logic dictates that Easy and Automatix are precursors to the next evolution of the way we will see linux operate.


(I made all that up off the top of my head. Let me know if anybody buys it.)

[keyes]

The new version (a beta version here:http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/index.php/2005/10/27/65-easy-ubuntu-24-beta) uses the PLF repository.
PLF host litigious packages (like w32codecs, realplayer, libdvdcss, ...) and your help is welcomed :) http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf

Even if we are working on PLF I think Easy Ubuntu is good because this a very easy tool to set up correctly a Multimedia system. Beginners don't like command line and find Synaptic too complicated (beginners this is my girl friend or my father).

[clparker]

I dont know about you guys, but i'm reinstalling Ubuntu more than I like to admit sometimes after tinkering with things i shouldn't be and any app that makes it easier to get a fresh install up and running in no time is fine by me.

[ember]

Beginners don't like command line and find Synaptic too complicated (beginners this is my girl friend or my father).

Advanced users like it, when there is a tool that does otherwise tiring work for you, too ;)

[angrykeyboarder]

If you are back to compiling the packages you need for daily use, why stick with Ubuntu? Seems a flaw if you are back to needing a special script to download and compile applications. Everything should be in a depository [sic] of some kind for a binary distro.

What am I missing? (Im new to Ubuntu, but not *nix)
Maybe that's what's wrong! Ubuntu has repositories!

[BLTicklemonster]

I dont know about you guys, but i'm reinstalling Ubuntu more than I like to admit sometimes after tinkering with things i shouldn't be and any app that makes it easier to get a fresh install up and running in no time is fine by me.
Werd. Exactly why I like it. Plus, ease of operation. Everything (mostly) that you need is right there. It would be nice if it had more video driver choices... I've got an old voodoo 3000, and a rage 128, and others I will use on machines to give away to kids in the neighborhood. We have some families renting around here who probably won't be getting computers for a while, and if I can scrounge something up, I'd like to give them away, and I'd as soon not put an illegal copy of anything else on them for fear of causing them problems down the road...

[keyes]

I'm ok to support other cards but I only have an nvidia. Send me a patch to support other models and I will include it!