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tzutolin
October 13th, 2005, 12:30 AM
Hi, everyone
Do you know when will be the official :KS breezy backport:KS available? Thanks a lot!
strikeforce
October 13th, 2005, 01:10 AM
When the version after breezy is starting to get put together.
tzutolin
October 13th, 2005, 03:07 AM
I've herad it will be ready a week after breezy is released, is it true? :KS
poofyhairguy
October 13th, 2005, 03:53 AM
Hi, everyone
Do you know when will be the official :KS breezy backport:KS available? Thanks a lot!
When the servers for development Dapper open.
tzutolin
October 13th, 2005, 08:48 AM
When the servers for development Dapper open.
All right. Thanks :-)
It seems development Dapper forum has been opened, will the backport be available too? :KS
Nomearod
October 13th, 2005, 03:12 PM
I installed Ubuntu 5.10 today ( 2 hours ago ), and I would like to use backports. What do I need to do? In the other version, I just added mirrormax and other mirrors, but it looks like they don't work with 5.10...
Seth
October 13th, 2005, 05:05 PM
There are no backports in Breezy since everything is by definition up-to-date. Once Dapper gets underway backports will reopen.
tzutolin
October 14th, 2005, 12:24 AM
Thanks :KS
So what should we do if we want to install w32codecs, flashplugin, acroread, java, and azureus?
Nomearod
October 14th, 2005, 02:40 AM
Thanks :KS
So what should we do if we want to install w32codecs, flashplugin, acroread, java, and azureus?
That's what I would like to know... without backports, this programs don't appear in Synaptic.:(
feloc
October 14th, 2005, 04:20 AM
This is something that I'm wondering about too.... :???:
poofyhairguy
October 14th, 2005, 04:46 AM
Thanks :KS
So what should we do if we want to install w32codecs, flashplugin, acroread, java, and azureus?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
John.Michael.Kane
October 14th, 2005, 04:52 AM
look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Codecs#head-ae79fed9d60ccdf06f400ae76ad53867d94bb2b8
it's tried and tested..
Edit: poofyhairguy beat me to it
sander marechal
October 14th, 2005, 11:54 AM
That doesn't work anymore. For the codecs you need
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
and that's not available anymore (apt-get update halts with an error claiming not to find it). What now?
TheRay1987
October 14th, 2005, 01:44 PM
So what are these for?
## Backports
deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-backports-staging main universe multiverse restricted
deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras-staging main universe multiverse restricted
Nomearod
October 14th, 2005, 03:46 PM
That doesn't work anymore. For the codecs you need
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
and that's not available anymore (apt-get update halts with an error claiming not to find it). What now?
I used that to install W32Codecs, and it worked.
To install Adobe, you can use Synaptic with the default sources, I think...
What I would like to know, is how can I install Azureus.... : /
xalphas
October 15th, 2005, 05:43 PM
What I would like to know, is how can I install Azureus.... : /
I've installed Azureus this way:
wget http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/azureus/Azureus_2.3.0.4_linux.GTK.tar.bz2
sudo tar jxvf Azureus_2.3.0.4_linux.GTK.tar.bz2 -C /opt/
sudo chown -R root:root /opt/azureus/
sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/Azureus.desktop
Paste this
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Azureus
Comment=Azureus
Exec=/opt/azureus/azureus
Icon=/opt/azureus/Azureus.png
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=Application;Network;
And you have to see it in Applications-Internet
Hope this helps you.
thx
NeoChaosX
October 15th, 2005, 08:10 PM
So what are these for?
## Backports
deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-backports-staging main universe multiverse restricted
deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras-staging main universe multiverse restricted
Those lines are there for when Breezy Backports is finally open. So just wait until development on Dapper starts.
sparhawk
October 16th, 2005, 02:49 AM
Thanks :KS
So what should we do if we want to install w32codecs, flashplugin, acroread, java, and azureus?
I don't know how many times I have seen people asking about w32codecs. They won't be in backports or extra's or anything because they are not free open source codecs. The companies that own the rights to them want money for them which means either you pay ubuntu for them... or they pay for them and accept the loss or they get shut down due to law suites. The ubuntu team have decided to remove them which I think is the right move because there are plenty of open source alternatives out there. If you want a free operating system you can't use software that the authors want money for... its that simple. Check out:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Codecs
and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
That should give you a better idea of whats going on.
sparhawk
October 16th, 2005, 02:52 AM
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Codecs
and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
That should give you a better idea of whats going on.
Sorry that should be:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
fragmental
October 16th, 2005, 07:28 AM
I don't know how many times I have seen people asking about w32codecs. They won't be in backports or extra's or anything because they are not free open source codecs. The companies that own the rights to them want money for them which means either you pay ubuntu for them... or they pay for them and accept the loss or they get shut down due to law suites. The ubuntu team have decided to remove them which I think is the right move because there are plenty of open source alternatives out there. If you want a free operating system you can't use software that the authors want money for... its that simple. Check out:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Codecs
and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
That should give you a better idea of whats going on.
Yes, it's too bad that so many websites use non-free non-open codecs. There isn't much that anyone can do about it though. I guess, we could all send e-mails to those websites and complain. Something like "Theora would be nice, but at least support Realplayer!" At least the bbc is pretty cool. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/opensource/)
LongTooth
October 16th, 2005, 11:35 AM
With a new PC and a fresh install of Breezy I too would like to work on multimedia and all the plugins needed. I stay away from tarballs as much as I can. So what the next step?
On another machine I took the drastisc step of adding the Hoary back ports and following the steps for multimedia. For the most part I'm satified with the results but...(you know this was coming, didn't you?) I can't play mpeg embeded video of Firefox. Oddly I have no problems with Epiphany.
With a clean slate - fresh install on a new PC - I'd like to enable multimedia, flash, java, etc the proper, Debian way. Namely apt-get install etc... I'll keep an eye on this thread.
Hopefully a 5.10 Starter Guide is in the works.
tzutolin
October 17th, 2005, 08:08 PM
According to the development forum, it seems the Dapper Drake repository will be open later today.
Will the Breezy Backport be opened at the same time? :KS
moepud
October 18th, 2005, 01:50 AM
While I've been using Debian for a while, and thus familiar with the apt system, I've just recently started trying ubuntu to see what all the fuss is about. Now, I might be wrong about this, but aren't the "backports" repos just future, "experimental" versions of software already found in the "official" or "regular" repos? This would be analogous to the "stable" and "unstable" apt repos in Debian. I'm fairly certain that you can just append "universe" and "multiverse" to your existing, working lines in your apt sources list.
it might look something like this:
deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe multiverse
To my understanding, and if ubuntu repos work anything like standard apt repos, this should give you access to everything that was available in the old backports, which is now simply a part of the current "breezy" disto.
If I totally got this wrong feel free to ignore me.
geearf
October 18th, 2005, 02:43 PM
No you are right, backport is a bit like sid, it's bleeding edge stuff, but when breezy just got out, there is no newer ubuntu package anywhere so no backport ...
PuleX
October 18th, 2005, 04:40 PM
While I've been using Debian for a while, and thus familiar with the apt system, I've just recently started trying ubuntu to see what all the fuss is about. Now, I might be wrong about this, but aren't the "backports" repos just future, "experimental" versions of software already found in the "official" or "regular" repos? This would be analogous to the "stable" and "unstable" apt repos in Debian. I'm fairly certain that you can just append "universe" and "multiverse" to your existing, working lines in your apt sources list.
it might look something like this:
deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe multiverse
To my understanding, and if ubuntu repos work anything like standard apt repos, this should give you access to everything that was available in the old backports, which is now simply a part of the current "breezy" disto.
If I totally got this wrong feel free to ignore me.
Well, you are close, but not quite right. Using the debian example:
1. Debian has backports, too: http://backports.org/
2. The difference between unstable/testing and backports is that a backport is specifically made to run on a stable environment. That way, if you want the latest and greatest of *name great and up-to-date* package, that is only available in unstable with all kinds of unstable dependencies, you don't need to install all kinds of unstable libs or other dependencies too _if_ you use the backport.
ions
October 20th, 2005, 02:40 PM
So are the Breezy Backports a go yet? OOo2 final is finally final.
vaskark
October 20th, 2005, 09:20 PM
And when they are finally open can someone post all the official breezy repos that are available. I want them all.
BoyOfDestiny
October 21st, 2005, 03:52 AM
Actually I'm more interested in breezy-extras. I feel more comfortable keeping the "base" install official, and adding programs not included.
If there is anyway I can help you guys with a few...
Here are some I've built from source with checkinstall
http://www.safaribans.com/gpl/
All gpl, and no, not restricted format stuff...(and yes I included the tars with the original sources!)
Heretic09
October 21st, 2005, 09:23 AM
You could always use:
deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas all
deb-src http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas all
w32 codecs and freenx are available there as well as some other stuff, package listing is here:
http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/all/
XDevHald
October 21st, 2005, 09:45 AM
EDIT: ok fixed, didn't see the front page for the gpg :p
Type in a terminal (no need for root)
gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D466
gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -
chetanthaker
October 21st, 2005, 01:40 PM
Ok Steve,
I'm downloading the tar.gz file from that website you noted ... 13MB
Ok, once I'm done downloading it, how do I install/compile it ??
Please do help me... kinda newbie to Linux
CeeTee
Blue1k
October 21st, 2005, 02:09 PM
Why don't you download the deb file instead.
To install this:
sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
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