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xelapond
April 7th, 2008, 09:43 PM
We should start making our titles have a tag at the front so we can easily know which language they are talking about, for instance:

[Python] Stack overflow

Instead of:

Stack overflow problem in python

It would just allow those of us that are really good at some languages and not others easily scope out the ones we can help with, or just know really fast what language its in.

They do this here (http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewforum&f=11&sid=1f3ec8aa878a52aeb82d99781b953eee) and it works really well.

nhandler
April 7th, 2008, 09:54 PM
That sounds like a good idea. It would probably have to be a mod/admin who would edit the thread titles. I honestly doubt half of the people who post here would take the time to read the thread that would probably get stickied telling them to put that at the beginning of the thread title. But I do feel this idea would help.

Another idea along the same lines would be to make subforums for all of the languages. But I personally feel just adding the language in the title would help.

xelapond
April 7th, 2008, 10:01 PM
I don't know if sub forums would really help, because I like to browse and see all languages. I know a little of everything, so its nice to be able to see them all in one spot. There are also so many different languages, you would need a whole new forum:)

I think if we just made a sticky and told people politely they would eventually start following it. If I was a mod I would be more then happy to edit people titles to reflect there languages, until they started doing it. I am sure there is at least one mod that would see the values and do it.

pmasiar
April 7th, 2008, 10:28 PM
It is good idea but sadly it will not work. Some people will add language to title (and some already do), but it is well known fact that people do not read sticky FAQ.

ghostdog74
April 7th, 2008, 10:44 PM
I don't know if sub forums would really help, because I like to browse and see all languages.

that is brought up before, i will let the mods answer you.

Can+~
April 7th, 2008, 11:09 PM
My grain of salt:
When I tried that out on another forum, it failed miserably with newcomers but common users would use it properly. So I modded al posts on the first page and added the respective tags, so newcomers would see that there is an order, and at least, reduced the wrong title rate a lot.

Takes quite a lot of effort to make it start rolling.

LaRoza
April 7th, 2008, 11:22 PM
Look at: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=249460

In particular, look at thread tagging and prefixes.

This upgrade will happen soon hopefully. The theme has to be rebuilt, and there is some maintenance and testing that has to be done.

Although I do think the OP's suggestion is good, it is something we really can't enforce.

@OP Perhaps you should have titled this "[Suggestion] We should make..."

nanotube
April 8th, 2008, 12:32 AM
if you have a separate dropdown with a language selector, and it /requires/ users to select something rather than leave it blank, then i'm betting the success rate will be close to 100%. :)

of course, that would require modifying forum software, and i'm not sure they will go for that just for this programming subforum...

without that... heh, we get people posting titles like "i need help", i don't think any number of stickies will be of much use.

LaRoza
April 8th, 2008, 12:46 AM
if you have a separate dropdown with a language selector, and it /requires/ users to select something rather than leave it blank, then i'm betting the success rate will be close to 100%. :)

of course, that would require modifying forum software, and i'm not sure they will go for that just for this programming subforum...

When the software is upgraded, each section will have its own personal prefixes I think. I will put in a good word :-)

Of course, there is also tagging, which should help.

ruy_lopez
April 8th, 2008, 01:44 AM
Of course, there is also tagging, which should help.

Tagging is probably the closest to being a complete solution. Tags can be applied by anyone, so there's less work for Mods. And if someone forgets to tag their own thread, someone else soon will.

Provided the tagging is judicious, it should work

LaRoza
April 8th, 2008, 03:26 AM
Tagging is probably the closest to being a complete solution. Tags can be applied by anyone, so there's less work for Mods. And if someone forgets to tag their own thread, someone else soon will.

Provided the tagging is judicious, it should work

The tagging is cool (I have tried a testing version of the new vB). There aren't enough posts with them to test it though, so I can't really see how it works.

xelapond
April 8th, 2008, 09:40 AM
The problem I have seen with tags is they get out of hand. You will end up with stuff like problem, programming, help, AAH!, python, noob, error. Then they will be of no real values. I think the idea of a drop down menu is good, but there are so many languages we could not possibly list them all. There are also some people that aren't asking about a specific language, but rather, which one to learn. Tags might help though, if they were editable by anyone. Then we could remove the ones that are obvious(like error and problem) and the ones that are unnecessary(like noob, help and AHH!). Then it might work. Were are the tags displayed and are they editable by everyone? Is there any forums that are using tags that I could look at just to get a feel for them?

nanotube
April 8th, 2008, 10:13 AM
The problem I have seen with tags is they get out of hand. You will end up with stuff like problem, programming, help, AAH!, python, noob, error. Then they will be of no real values. I think the idea of a drop down menu is good, but there are so many languages we could not possibly list them all. There are also some people that aren't asking about a specific language, but rather, which one to learn. Tags might help though, if they were editable by anyone. Then we could remove the ones that are obvious(like error and problem) and the ones that are unnecessary(like noob, help and AHH!). Then it might work. Were are the tags displayed and are they editable by everyone? Is there any forums that are using tags that I could look at just to get a feel for them?

well, i was thinking that in the dropdown selection, there would just be an "other" tag. so you could have like 20 or so stock tags for the most frequent categories, plus "other". the "other" could even allow for this-one-time user-entry, though not necessarily.

but honestly... i don't think this subforum is high-volume enough to even bother tagging threads at all. :)