Is PcLinux a Debian based Distro?

[Comhra]

Dual-booting pclos at the moment and it's a beaut. Support is bad though...nothing like Launchpad or Ubuntu Forums available. It's difficult to get information.

Will Debian packages work in PC Linux?

[maybeway36]

PCLinuxOS is based on Mandriva, so it uses RPM. You could try alien, though.

[Comhra]

ok thanks

[whitefang5412]

One thing about pcLOS, it uses apt get.

[SunnyRabbiera]

PClinux is RPM based, though its one of the better ones thanks to apt, but its forums are full of jerks.

[tubasoldier]

I personally thought it had a load of bugs myself the last time I used it.

[Istonian]

PClinux is RPM based, though its one of the better ones thanks to apt, but its forums are full of jerks.

That is very true. The people on the pclos forums are jerks. That's why I came here even when I had pclos trouble.

[billgoldberg]

First off, theres jerks in all the distros, dumbass toss pots who want all the crappy eye candy, OK. But there are less in PCLos than others.

Second I use Ubuntu 7.04. I installed 7.10 3 months after it came out and had 216 updates off a standard install. I re-installed 7.04 10 months after it came out and ONLY had 196 updates off a standard install.
Lets work out the jerk tosspot maths here : 196 updates from being out 10 months OR 216 updates from being out only 3 months !!! Hmmmm Im no Einstein but in my head Im thinking 7.10 is crap. This is what you get for rushing out 6 monthly releases, instead of having the Texstar / Debian attitude of "We'll release it when we're satisfied it works."

Where as the Ubuntu attitude is "release it, release it, dont care if its not complete, just get it out, we can release a a load of updates after".

Now I dont know about you lot, but Ubuntu 7.10 reminds me of Windows, release it while its still broken with loads of bugs, then 3 months later release a service pack. Windows release all updates on a SP CD/DVD whereas Ubuntu just releases all the updates after you install.

Its the kind of attitude of "but its forums are full of jerks." is the reason that Linux will remain an exclusive, big headed, arrogant users OS with all the infighting, slagging off the other distros like playground schoolboys trying to sound like smartarses. Plus the Gnome / KDE camps as well.

So basically my dear watson. Before shouting about how bad you think PCLos is, you want to get your own distro sorted. You ever heard of the saying "The kettle calling the pot black".

You do realize that most of those updates are from the software installed on your system?

And since the software in ubuntu 7.10 is newer than the software in 7.04, there could be more updates.

The only thing that changes on ubuntu with those updates are "security" issues. That's nothing like an sp, wich adds functionality to the OS.

The only one who sounds like a jerk are you.

[cardinals_fan]

Its the kind of attitude of "but its forums are full of jerks." is the reason that Linux will remain an exclusive, big headed, arrogant users OS with all the infighting, slagging off the other distros like playground schoolboys trying to sound like smartarses. Plus the Gnome / KDE camps as well.

Nice example of following your own advice. Drink some iced tea and calm down.

[Twitch6000]

Well phillp you try to make PClinuxOs look good and you do is flame another OS?How mature is that?I would suggest what the others have said take a seat and calm down :).I myself use PClinux2007 it works I know and ubuntu 7.10 it also works so yeah.

[HermanAB]

Well, if you like PCLOS, then you should install Mandriva 2008.1 Spring edition, which is due for public download on 10 April.

[Pinoy915]

I used PCLinuxOS before to try it but I backed away since the repositories did not have the programs I can readily download and install in Ubuntu.

[BigSilly]

I used PCLOS for a while, and found it to be a fantastic distro. It's a bit lacking on the software front, but it's early days yet and that'll improve over time. I only removed it because the new Mandriva blew me away.

I do however, have to agree about the forums there. I think we all know that there can be jerks on any forum. I'm sure many of us can attest to that even here. But for such a new distro I did expect to find their user base to be a bit more welcoming than they are, especially for newbies. It's very difficult getting an answer to anything there, and users are very testy when you try to ask questions. One thing in particular I hate about it, is when you post up a question, you get told to use the search. Well, I used the search, and guess what? It brought up a load of posts saying "use the search". It's no help at all, especially when you are in dire straights and need something fixing as soon as you can. There's no way to be nice about it, they just don't offer the same kind of community at the moment that Ubuntu does. Who wants to register for such an unfriendly forum, when you know you'll just get barked at?

I think they need to chill out a bit and be less defensive there, but still, it's a tremendous OS, and is bound to grow. I see they already are starting to get some business partners, which is bound to ensure a long lifespan for the distro. I've recommended it to loads of people successfully.

[djbsteart1]

So Im getting slagged off because someone else was slagging off PCLos, I made some comment about they should shut up and quit the in-fighting, and Im the one who gets the ear ache ? And yes I am mature, Im 41 yrs old.

Billgoldberg has missed the point of the whole post. Ubuntu releases a version when its basically not even ready, and as soon as its released there are a lot of updates to software. I was trying (badly) to make a connection between ubuntus silly idea of 6 month releases, and windows releasing an OS and then 3 months later releasing an SP.

My advice to you is to "READ THE POST FULLY", then go for a coffee and then come back and read it again. You might then get the whole picture before openning butt cheeks and coming out with a comment that is based on not fully reading the post. My comment on the updates still stands.

I believe the biggest problem is the fact that you die-hard linux users dont like us smegheads coming in and slagging your dear Linux off. My biggest problem is that I cant help but write something when I should shut up myself and go away. Plus having a comment like "The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned." in with your name, is that to make you look witty perhaps ? Or is it a linux joke ?
Its a bit like people who have a Bently, and who are courtious on the road, let other road users out of junctions and dont brag about "Hey look at me, Ive made it", they dont need to, the car does it for them, plus they get respect because their not showing off or being big headed. Funny comments in with your name doesnt make you look any smarter than you already are. And this is where you come back and say you've got 15 degrees, a levels and o levels coming out your backside.

6.06 was released late to make sure it was ready, 7.10 was never intended to be a 110% stable release, that is what hardy will be. It can be argues that ubuntu has a long release cycle for its LTS versions, The none LTS versions can be regardedas snapshots.
Now, you were getting the earful bcause you responded in a none too polite manner, being flamed for doing this is only what is going to happen, if you actully want to talk about the finer points of the too distro's, which I think you do, then please rephrase into a non offensive manner so that a constructive argument can be made.

Now my veiws on PCLinuxOS are that it is a ok distro, but when it is compared to Mandriva, there is not one peice of competition. 2008.1 is by my veiw the finest distro around, The only thing that required any configuration was my printer. Downloaded hplip, done. Wireless worked wothout a problem, I couldn't do that in either PCLinuxOS or ubuntu, graphics no problem, yes you can see I could go on praising but there is no point. Just if you are sceptical go and try it, the final release is out on the 10th.

As for the forums I havn't been, but from reading this i will stick to Ubuntu's and Mandriva's, as both are really friendly.

[tdrusk]

First of all, the guys on PCLinuxOS forums have been nothing but nice to me. I would assume with an attitude like that one they would be jerks, as anyone else would be.

PCLinuxOS is a great OS, it's faster and more stable than Ubuntu (IMO) but I am waiting for them to update to 2008.

[djbsteart1]

First of all, the guys on PCLinuxOS forums have been nothing but nice to me. I would assume with an attitude like that one they would be jerks, as anyone else would be.

PCLinuxOS is a great OS, it's faster and more stable than Ubuntu (IMO) but I am waiting for them to update to 2008.

If you like stabilty and PCLinuxOS you really should try Mandriva 2008.1, even when it was in beta it didn't have one problem, and with the final release on 10th, timing is perfect.