View Full Version : [SOLVED] Safari or Firefox
Living2007
April 1st, 2008, 04:16 PM
I hear Apple has release another Mac OS X program for Windows; Safari.
What I want to know is, when Safari is fully ready for Windows, will it still catch the viruses or be the prefect browser for Windows over Firefox
linksolo74
April 1st, 2008, 04:17 PM
I've read that it isn't quite ready for windows yet and has quite a few vulnerabilities.
Living2007
April 1st, 2008, 04:18 PM
I've read that it isn't quite ready for windows yet and has quite a few vulnerabilities.
I know that because it's under the third beta release
Kernel Sanders
April 1st, 2008, 07:31 PM
Firefox, simply due to extensions tbh.
aysiu
April 1st, 2008, 07:39 PM
There's no such thing as a perfect browser, especially when it comes to security. That's why patches are constantly being released.
Living2007
April 1st, 2008, 08:17 PM
There's no such thing as a perfect browser, especially when it comes to security. That's why patches are constantly being released.
What I ment was by a perfect browser was that, it doesn't always downloads viruses, like internet explorer
tango_ninja
April 1st, 2008, 08:19 PM
Firefox is the best in my opinion, if only for extensions (i.e. greasemonkey :))
Living2007
April 1st, 2008, 08:30 PM
I've added a Poll so you don't have to use posts!
tubasoldier
April 1st, 2008, 08:36 PM
I would like to point out that it was through Safari that OSX got hacked...
Perhaps this vulnerability could be used in Windows as well?
Matthewslf
April 1st, 2008, 09:44 PM
As for safari not being ready for windows, I have ran firefox on Mac, Windows, and Ubuntu, and I have ran Safari on Windows and OS X. It seems as if (and i have heard this from others too) Safari is less buggy on windows than on OS X. I get a crash about one in five times that I use it in OS X.
doorknob60
April 1st, 2008, 09:48 PM
Firefox. It's open source, has extentions, and actually blends in with your windows theme :P
Living2007
April 1st, 2008, 09:56 PM
As for safari not being ready for windows
I already know Safari is still in Beta and not ready for Windows
vishzilla
April 1st, 2008, 11:09 PM
Firefox + Add ons= a winner! ;)
NightwishFan
April 1st, 2008, 11:10 PM
I do not like either much. Firefox for me though.
Midwest-Linux
April 2nd, 2008, 07:43 AM
Firefox rules !
JBAlaska
April 2nd, 2008, 08:54 AM
I was forced to give the FF 3 beta a "try" when I installed hardy...ok I figured maybe the memory leak (feature?) was cured. After one hour FF3 was using over 170MB of ram...after 3 hours of use FF3 was using a whopping 875MB of ram! wtf?
I installed the windoze version of safari under wine, and other than some font display problems it runs just fine with 70MB of ram. (Flash and shockwave working)
Opera 9.5 beta (x64) runs great with a small footprint but lacks the tabbing features I need (open all links in a new tab)
Swiftweasel is working great, but using 258MB ram.....damn..
Jammy4041
April 2nd, 2008, 01:49 PM
Firefox. It is better to use the stable release of anything. I have firefox on Ubuntu and Windows. Try the old Safari beta and I didn't like it. I put opera on my computer, didn't really like that either.
Fi refox is flexible, it has extensions AND it's open source.
Result!
Living2007
April 2nd, 2008, 04:25 PM
To be honest people, I use firefox anyway (Because Apple software is hge to download), but I was excited about Safari, but its still buggy.
:lol:
Living2007
April 3rd, 2008, 04:00 PM
Firefox still rules, because of the theme customization, but I can't find a curtain theme.
Myglaren
April 5th, 2008, 02:27 PM
I have it on my Vista machine because Vista seems to have killed Netscape, Opera, Maxthon and Slimbrowser. I ain't using IE7 so got Safari to open a few other email accounts.
I don't like it much, Firefox is faster and slicker.
Prettier too.
Condoulo
April 5th, 2008, 03:45 PM
hmmm..... After using both on Windows (Safari 3.1, and Firefox 3 beta 5)
I will say I prefer Firefox myself. :) Probably because of the extensions and the ability to customize.
Living2007
April 6th, 2008, 04:32 PM
I would say people would like Safari on their computer, if they were venturing to make Windows look like Mac OS X.
Living2007
April 6th, 2008, 04:33 PM
hmmm..... After using both on Windows (Safari 3.1, and Firefox 3 beta 5)
I will say I prefer Firefox myself. :) Probably because of the extensions and the ability to customize.
Hang on! How long ago did Mozilla come out with Firefox 3 in beta?
CrazyArcher
April 6th, 2008, 04:38 PM
My answer is Opera
Living2007
April 6th, 2008, 04:43 PM
Are you sure. I've never tried Opera. What features does it have, what makes it special from Firefox, Safari and IE7
CrazyArcher
April 6th, 2008, 04:51 PM
You can consider it as a lightweight alternative to FF ;)
For me the key features of Opera are built-in clients for email, IRC, torrent downloader, RSS, mouse gestures, password-storing tool... You probably can get some of the functionality with FF, but it requires additional downloading, while in Opera it all comes in one package. With all the functionality, Opera has no mem-leaks and probably delivers fastest browsing speed.
sub2007
April 6th, 2008, 05:19 PM
I would not use Safari for the following reasons:
1. Apple foist Safari onto their Windows end users via automatic updates for things like Quicktime or iTunes. As part of the update, "Safari" is an option (pre-checked). Pre-checked check boxes are very bad practice for optional upgrades (IMO) as it is completely unrelated to Quicktime or iTunes and a significant proportion would not uncheck the box (quite possibly not knowing what Safari even is and thinking that it's an important update for their program) and will be lumped with a 40MB download for a program that they probably don't want and will never use. And before anyone gets defensive about the "well you can uncheck the box" don't forget that this is a line that adware companies have been using for years, whilst Safari isn't adware it's practices can certainly be likened to it.
2. 40MB (I believe the download size is) for a web browser is enormous.
3. Apple produce a program for Windows but yet make no effort to localise it to Windows. For one thing the OK and Cancel buttons are the wrong way around and that's just plain sloppy coding.
4. On a more personal note, I don't like the theme. Sure it might look cool on OS X but I'd rather make it look like I want it to. I hate metallic themes anyway (but that's just a personal one). On a not so personal note though I don't think you can change the theme, whereas you can with every other browser, even IE (if you use the right software).
As for security, web browsers don't "catch" viruses. Security exploits are important and unfortanately every browser will have those (so far Opera is winning on fewest vulnerabilities I believe) but there'll always be a correlation between number of end users and number of exploits. No browser will stop the person downloading what they thought was a good thing but it in fact turns out to be infected with nasties (which I think is how a lot of malware is spread).
So for me it would probably be:
Firefox < Opera < Internet Explorer 7 < Safari
If I WAS using Windows though then I'd probably try out Safari (just because I quite like trying web browsers for some reason) but am fairly sure it would go into my "try once and never to use again" collection.
CrazyArcher
April 6th, 2008, 06:05 PM
Safari installation is 40MB?! Oh my...
Living2007
April 6th, 2008, 10:19 PM
Take a look at iTunes Download, 56MB approx.!!!
gameryoshi600
April 7th, 2008, 11:43 AM
firefox rocks dude
Living2007
April 9th, 2008, 08:34 PM
They have FF and IE6 on all XP computers at school, because FF doesn't crash and IE6 because FF can't accses all pages and most students are used to IE. But the Mac OS X only have Safari. (Now thats fine of Apple PCs)
Chiko2008
April 10th, 2008, 03:55 PM
I'll continue using Firefox until someone convinces me to not. :)
Ubuntu (http://www.linux-archive.org/ubuntu/)
Living2007
April 11th, 2008, 01:16 AM
But the Mac OS X only have Safari. (Now thats fine of Apple PCs)
I'm starting to think that Safari is basically Apple's IE for Mac.
Living2007
April 13th, 2008, 06:46 PM
Knock-Knock, Anybody there?
NightwishFan
April 13th, 2008, 06:57 PM
Nope, no one is here. Although if you cannot remove Safari or get an alternative then it is true.
Vorian Grey
April 13th, 2008, 07:03 PM
I say Firefox. Safari seems to have too many secure holes.
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