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PuleX
October 10th, 2005, 04:33 PM
The Tango project was just announced:

"The Tango Desktop Project exists to create a consistent user experience for free and Open Source software with graphical user interfaces."
http://tango-project.org/Tango_Desktop_Project

From what I have seen, I like it! And I think it will help produce great looking linux desktops.

el toro
October 11th, 2005, 12:53 AM
Agreed, the icons look great, and it'll be good to finally have some inter-DE standards.

supernaut
October 11th, 2005, 02:25 AM
I wonder if Ubuntu will start using this as a default?

poptones
October 11th, 2005, 06:03 AM
But.... right now I am using the "Flat SVG" icon theme that was originally created for KDE and ported over some time ago. the last posted port was .95c or something, the most recent KDe version is 1.0. I have downloaded that version and about half through transferring all the icons to gnome directory structure as well as creating many new ones that, of course, stylistically adhere to the originals. And when I am done I will, of course, submit my changes and additions back to the fellow who created the original KDE version.

This is only the most relevant example to me, because it's work I'm doing now. There are many other icon sets out there as well as desktop themes that are ported back and forth.

I'm not posting just to pee on this person's parade, but I honestly don't see anything there substantially different than *many* other folks have been doing pretty much as long as there have been desktop themes.

That said, I don't use KDE because it doesn't *feel* right, and there's nothing a theme can do about that. Until you can make kde apps *behave* like gnome apps (and vice versa) there's little point to this "unified" stuff (although I hope they NEVER start making gnome apps look and act like KDe apps!). Better, in fact, to choose two *different* themes that look good together so at least you can always tell the two apart with a glance.

Knome_fan
October 11th, 2005, 06:26 AM
This is only the most relevant example to me, because it's work I'm doing now. There are many other icon sets out there as well as desktop themes that are ported back and forth.

I'm not posting just to pee on this person's parade, but I honestly don't see anything there substantially different than *many* other folks have been doing pretty much as long as there have been desktop themes.



Tango defines a standard icon style guidelines document that applications and desktop enviroments can adhere to. Work has started on creating a new base icon theme based on a standard icon naming specification. In addition, we provide transition utilities to create icon themes for existing GNOME and KDE desktops.

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duffman25
October 11th, 2005, 09:02 AM
The initial tango-icon-theme is in breezy. :)

dolson
October 13th, 2005, 01:08 AM
The initial tango-icon-theme is in breezy. :)

Man, I hope that it really takes off. That site has some of the best ideas yet. If every app followed simple guidelines, just imagine how it would look. And anyone who wants to install different themes can, but the way things are now, it's quite disjointed. If I install a theme, half the icons I need are there, maybe. It's kinda silly to have half-done themes.

I think we need a standard, default theme for everything. But keep the customizability for sure.

I for one am sick of seeing all the screenshots of people trying to imitate OSX.

poptones
October 13th, 2005, 06:42 PM
I agree with you there - the OSX rips are tired. OSX looked fresh for about a month when it came out, now it just looks really old. I think what fearless leader said best describes it when he called it "kitchenware."

The icons problem is a little deeper than just having them there. Sometimes the problem comes from people including iconrc files in themes that override your preferences when you change icon themes. And sometimes it's a problem that's hard coded into the software. For example, the flat SVG theme I'm working on now has about 1000 icons that cover everything from stock gnome and kde functions like trash, rewind and fast-fwd, but I still can't make Gnomebaker display the themed icon instead of the default, nor can I get the "GNOME Bit Torrent" icon to change to the themed iconset even when I set it manually. And none of the icons from the "gnome system tools" menu will accept the theme, it appears to be a problem with those applets themselves.

After putting together about 100 relatively simple SVG icons, I can vouch for the amount of work that goes into assembling a really comprehensive icon set. Even if it takes just five minutes to draw an icon, you have to track down all the names used for it, the folder it belong in... it's hella lotta work.