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BadPenguin86
March 29th, 2008, 08:46 PM
I have tried Ubuntu CE in the past, but for one reason or another, it was not as stable as the official release, but I am wondering a few things about Ubuntu CE.

1. What is the reason behind choosing e-Sword as the "holy grail" of bible software? Personally, I prefer gnomesword, since it it native to Linux & GTK, looks much better, and is much more attractive in design.

2. Is there some sort of warning when running IE4Linux that describes the legal ramifications of installing IE? Best I can find, it is illegal to install IE without a valid Microsoft license. There should be a warning telling the end user that they need to have a valid Windows license to install an official Windows product.

3. What is the reason behind even including IE? This distro is not focused toward web designers, and honestly, I think that those are the only users that profit from having IE on their system. What is wrong with Firefox or Epiphany?

4. What was the reason behind choosing Gnome over KDE? I am in love with Gnome and cannot really stand KDE, but if you are trying to accommodate to a Windows-to-Linux convert, KDE seems to be closer to Windows than Gnome.

I think that what you are doing is a noble thing, and if there is anything that I could help with, I would be more than happy to contribute to the effort, but I was just wondering those few things.

Eutaw
March 29th, 2008, 10:53 PM
I have tried Ubuntu CE in the past, but for one reason or another, it was not as stable as the official release, but I am wondering a few things about Ubuntu CE.

1. What is the reason behind choosing e-Sword as the "holy grail" of bible software? Personally, I prefer gnomesword, since it it native to Linux & GTK, looks much better, and is much more attractive in design.

2. Is there some sort of warning when running IE4Linux that describes the legal ramifications of installing IE? Best I can find, it is illegal to install IE without a valid Microsoft license. There should be a warning telling the end user that they need to have a valid Windows license to install an official Windows product.

3. What is the reason behind even including IE? This distro is not focused toward web designers, and honestly, I think that those are the only users that profit from having IE on their system. What is wrong with Firefox or Epiphany?

4. What was the reason behind choosing Gnome over KDE? I am in love with Gnome and cannot really stand KDE, but if you are trying to accommodate to a Windows-to-Linux convert, KDE seems to be closer to Windows than Gnome.

I think that what you are doing is a noble thing, and if there is anything that I could help with, I would be more than happy to contribute to the effort, but I was just wondering those few things.

1. Whatever floats your boat. I've been using esword for several years, it has lots of versions, commentaries, etc. Once you try it, I doubt you'll go back.

2. IE4Linux is not required for this distro. You can load it if you want to, but I prefer Firefox.

3. Some people have to take baby steps. IE may make them feel comfortable till they get their feet wet.

4. Why not?

Just a noob myself, barely dipping my toes in. I know all of us will be glad to have your contributions.

tak1150
March 30th, 2008, 03:09 PM
Amen to Eutaw's answer on 1.
I have used commercial software like Quick Verse (which is a great program), but amazingly enough, e-Sword is still superior in many aspects. I do realize that e-Sword may not be the best program for just digital Bible reading, but for Bible-study/research/sermon prep purposes, nothing else beats it.

BadPenguin86
April 2nd, 2008, 11:12 AM
Amen to Eutaw's answer on 1.
I have used commercial software like Quick Verse (which is a great program), but amazingly enough, e-Sword is still superior in many aspects. I do realize that e-Sword may not be the best program for just digital Bible reading, but for Bible-study/research/sermon prep purposes, nothing else beats it.

I do really enjoy esword on windows, but for Linux, I have always prefered Gnomesword, since it is native and a lot faster.

BadPenguin86
April 2nd, 2008, 11:18 AM
1. Whatever floats your boat. I've been using esword for several years, it has lots of versions, commentaries, etc. Once you try it, I doubt you'll go back.

2. IE4Linux is not required for this distro. You can load it if you want to, but I prefer Firefox.

3. Some people have to take baby steps. IE may make them feel comfortable till they get their feet wet.

4. Why not?

Just a noob myself, barely dipping my toes in. I know all of us will be glad to have your contributions.

I know that IE4Linux is not required, but I was wondering if there was a warning telling the end user that they need to own a Windows license to avoid crossing that legal boundary.

I am not trying to be combative, I am just curious and anxious to help if I can.

Eutaw
April 2nd, 2008, 01:22 PM
I know that IE4Linux is not required, but I was wondering if there was a warning telling the end user that they need to own a Windows license to avoid crossing that legal boundary.

I am not trying to be combative, I am just curious and anxious to help if I can.
Ditto on the combative thing. I haven't tried to download it, and since my machines came pre-loaded with MS I haven't thought about the licensing issue, but if it comes from MS, they stress the legalese before you can download anything so my guess is you know if you want to know. More warnings won't make people more honest, just more cautious.
Do you know for certain that this program requires a license?

Slothbert
April 2nd, 2008, 04:29 PM
I like esword because it offers the NKJV. If gnomesword had the NKJV I might use it.

BadPenguin86
April 3rd, 2008, 10:07 AM
Ditto on the combative thing. I haven't tried to download it, and since my machines came pre-loaded with MS I haven't thought about the licensing issue, but if it comes from MS, they stress the legalese before you can download anything so my guess is you know if you want to know. More warnings won't make people more honest, just more cautious.
Do you know for certain that this program requires a license?

IE4Linux does not require a license, but from what I understand, downloading IE and installing it requires a license. I don't think that this is a big deal considering that most of the users who would install Ubuntu CE are probably dual-booting anyway, so they have a Windows license, but I was just suggesting a warning to be on the safe side. The bible does say to honor man's laws, so that is what I am concerned with. There may already be a warning, idk. I have not tried the live CD in a long while.

BadPenguin86
April 3rd, 2008, 10:09 AM
I like esword because it offers the NKJV. If gnomesword had the NKJV I might use it.

If I am not mistaken, I believe that it does. I do not have access to hi-speed at the moment, and am on a new install of Hardy, so I can't look, but I believe that it does have NKJV.

ag65151
April 3rd, 2008, 11:13 AM
To me, GnomeSword is just ok. While the interface is better, the number of resources pales in comparison to e-Sword.

To me, GnomeSword would be an adequate (not great) way to read a Bible version and devotional book, but it just can not even come close to e-Sword in study helps.

The Sword Project was promising, but development of more resources has pretty much stalled. E-Sword has more resources than my old QuickVerse tool and can read all of my QuickVerse sources as well with the included STEP reader.

Of course, this is just my $.02 and, no, I am not paid to promote e-sword.