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reverseblade
March 7th, 2008, 03:02 PM
Please tell your opinons about Forum Staff

wieman01
March 7th, 2008, 03:31 PM
Now, what is the point of this poll? Since all of us are volunteers, will the results make much of a difference? Don't get me wrong, I don't mind being critized at all, however, I am merely emphasizing that the results won't have any impact on the forums' management and will cause dispute sooner or later. Plus I don't think it will result in a construtive discussion. So again I ask you, what is your point?

Joeb454
March 7th, 2008, 03:33 PM
I don't really see the point of this thread either...but I still voted that I'm happy with the way it's moderated, I think they're doing a good job :)

steveneddy
March 7th, 2008, 03:39 PM
Interesting.

A non-mod or non-admin polling this.

Point being .... ?

reverseblade
March 7th, 2008, 03:41 PM
I personally am "JUST CURIOUS" what other people think about this subject. I think these forums make up a free platform where people can open threads just because they are curious on something as long as they obey the rules and regulations.

Dr Small
March 7th, 2008, 03:42 PM
The staff have always been fair and nice to me, and I like them.
But I think they were a little to harsh on one of my friends, but I won't go into that, and don't want to make anyone upset. :)

wieman01
March 7th, 2008, 03:45 PM
OK, let's the community decide then. But I really hope this thread has anything to contribute, because otherwise it will be closed fairly soon. Not because we cannot face criticism, but simply because this is a very poor way of conveying the message. OK, now I've said it. Sorry for it (sort of).

steveneddy
March 7th, 2008, 04:09 PM
OK, let's the community decide then. But I really hope this thread has anything to contribute, because otherwise it will be closed fairly soon. Not because we cannot face criticism, but simply because this is a very poor way of conveying the message. OK, now I've said it. Sorry for it (sort of).

Put it in the backyard for discussion then.

matthew
March 7th, 2008, 07:45 PM
There are two user accounts registered with the same IP address as the OP, the other one recently received an infraction and was banned for trolling, not long before this one was created.

Coincidence? Maybe. I doubt it.

sub2007
March 7th, 2008, 08:00 PM
Speaking as a former moderator and current administrator of about 2 years experience (and with that probably the only active administrator) of a what I'd call a medium sized forum (we have around 25,000 members although very few "active") I know the stress that being a mod/admin can be. The feeling of "why the hell am I giving up my free time to do this when no one seems to care" (which the mods here may have felt from time to time). We still perservere because we love the respective sites and we want to help in their running and, overall, we do the job happily. Do members always like mine and my teams decisions? Hell no! But we still have to keep making those difficult decisions to keep the site respectable and fun for our members. Sometimes it is hard enough on the forum I administrate at, I couldn't imagine having to do the job on a forum twenty times that size (with respect to member numbers). So I do have a lot of respect for the staff here, I think they do a great (essentially thankless) job and they don't get told that enough. If the mods/admins all went on strike for a week you'd certainly see the difference.

OrangeCrate
March 7th, 2008, 08:09 PM
There are two user accounts registered with the same IP address as the OP, the other one recently received an infraction and was banned for trolling, not long before this one was created.

Coincidence? Maybe. I doubt it.

:)

ekmon1582
March 9th, 2008, 01:24 AM
How could you not be happy with them? Seriously, I'm a major newbie here, but they do a nice job as far as I've seen. :)


Speaking as a former moderator and current administrator of about 2 years experience (and with that probably the only active administrator) of a what I'd call a medium sized forum (we have around 25,000 members although very few "active") I know the stress that being a mod/admin can be. The feeling of "why the hell am I giving up my free time to do this when no one seems to care" (which the mods here may have felt from time to time). We still perservere because we love the respective sites and we want to help in their running and, overall, we do the job happily. Do members always like mine and my teams decisions? Hell no! But we still have to keep making those difficult decisions to keep the site respectable and fun for our members. Sometimes it is hard enough on the forum I administrate at, I couldn't imagine having to do the job on a forum twenty times that size (with respect to member numbers). So I do have a lot of respect for the staff here, I think they do a great (essentially thankless) job and they don't get told that enough. If the mods/admins all went on strike for a week you'd certainly see the difference.

I don't know how mods/admins do it (I've not seen much on these forums, but have on other support fourms), with all of the stuff I've seen on other support forums, it'd drive me crazy. Yet another reason to respect the staff :).

VraiChevalier
March 9th, 2008, 05:25 AM
I think the Forum Staff here do an excellent job! I am a member of a dozen or so other user forums and this one is the best.

I'm going to shout out a "hardy" thank you to all the forum staff as soon as I can figure out where to post it.

sloggerkhan
March 9th, 2008, 05:28 AM
hmm. This is an interesting question. From time to time they come up with some goofy things. Like that separate forum for discussion a while back. Don't even remember what it was called anymore.

LaRoza
March 9th, 2008, 05:33 AM
hmm. This is an interesting question. From time to time they come up with some goofy things. Like that separate forum for discussion a while back. Don't even remember what it was called anymore.

What are you thinking of?

The "Recurring Discussions" forum was actually prompted by non staff, like many things.

benny bronx
March 9th, 2008, 05:35 AM
I'd like to know which answer the forum staff finds more distressing:
"Unhappy with", or "I don't care"? Myself, I am a happy person who would not care to vote, although moderation is not one of my strengths,

LaRoza
March 9th, 2008, 05:37 AM
I'd like to know which answer the forum staff finds more distressing:
"Unhappy with", or "I don't care"? Myself, I am a happy person who would not care to vote, although moderation is not one of my strengths,

Personally, I don't care what the poll shows.

Anyone could vote on it, and I have been tempted to vote "Unhappy with".

I didn't vote, to let y'all know.

sloggerkhan
March 9th, 2008, 06:22 AM
What are you thinking of?

The "Recurring Discussions" forum was actually prompted by non staff, like many things.

no, it was that thing that was a separate website that was supposed to be like the backyard only its own forum with its own domain.

LaRoza
March 9th, 2008, 06:41 AM
no, it was that thing that was a separate website that was supposed to be like the backyard only its own forum with its own domain.

Oh, that wasn't the staff in general, and I wasn't here for that.

kevdog
March 9th, 2008, 07:16 AM
Ohhh them staff people -- they're a squirrley bunch!! :)

Seems like poor LaRoza is always pulling double-duty. From what I gather the staff forum council is a pyramid system with all the newbie forum staff doing all the work for the elder forum staff!!

LaRoza
March 9th, 2008, 07:18 AM
Ohhh them staff people -- they're a squirrley bunch!! :)

Seems like poor LaRoza is always pulling double-duty. From what I gather the staff forum council is a pyramid system with all the newbie forum staff doing all the work for the elder forum staff!!

I recently graduated, and am unemployeed, so I have a lot of time at the moment when I am not job searching :)

It just so happened I was recruited at this time, and it probably looks like I am on all day/night. Er, I am, but that is just because of my free time.

I hope to get a job soon (several prospects at the moment) and will have a more normal schedule then :)

kevdog
March 9th, 2008, 07:20 AM
Had to sell your soul, job, and means of earning an income to join the forum staff -- its all becoming a little clearer now! The Dark Side of the Forum Staff Council!

LaRoza
March 9th, 2008, 07:26 AM
Had to sell your soul, job, and means of earning an income to join the forum staff -- its all becoming a little clearer now! The Dark Side of the Forum Staff Council!

And they even took my red name :)

kevdog
March 9th, 2008, 07:28 AM
Whooa --- missed that one! Forum Staff Council -- put down the Visine!

Artificial Intelligence
March 9th, 2008, 07:31 AM
And they even took my red name :)

Muwhahahahaha!!! *sinister laughter echoing through the halls of UF*

LaRoza
March 9th, 2008, 07:34 AM
Muwhahahahaha!!! *sinister laughter echoing through the halls of UF*

Careful, yours may be next...

aysiu
March 9th, 2008, 09:44 AM
As a forum staff member, I voted I don't care. We are who we are. If you don't like our decisions, you can post a thread in the Resolution Center. If you're not satisfied with that decision, you can bring it up to the Forum Council. If you're still not satisfied... find another forum.

NightwishFan
March 9th, 2008, 09:49 AM
I have not met a staff member I disagreed with yet, which is rare.

Artificial Intelligence
March 9th, 2008, 10:48 AM
As a forum staff member, I voted I don't care. We are who we are. If you don't like our decisions, you can post a thread in the Resolution Center. If you're not satisfied with that decision, you can bring it up to the Forum Council. If you're still not satisfied... find another forum.

Exactly. We're following a set of rules too. The code of conduct (as every other members are doing) and Staff rules and behavior.



Careful, yours may be next...

Nah...I won the last challenging which gives me immunity for the next round :lolflag:

popch
March 9th, 2008, 11:01 AM
I have not met a staff member I disagreed with yet, which is rare.

I have met one (1), but this was in one of those whacky threads in (you know where). So we all make mistakes, and I am glad that he (and all other forum staff) do the work they do for us.

hhhhhx
March 11th, 2008, 08:36 AM
i've only had one issue, and that was when someone on the staff thought that i was bieng sarcastic and i really wasn't, but it wasn't worth fighting, so i took my 10 points and left, other than that i have nothing but good to say about the staff :)

uzisuicide
March 12th, 2008, 07:02 AM
I only know them from reading others posts. I joined earlier today, because of the help i've been getting. I'll google something and I always end up back to the ubuntu forums. I think the mods are awsome for what they are doing. It's good to have people around to ask questions. Linux is great, but its hard to get adjusted when you're used to windows. I'm a programmer and have worked as a computer tech for years. I started using linux 2 days ago, and it's much different than I thaught it would be.

Thanks for your exp. moderators

-grubby
March 12th, 2008, 03:20 PM
I think these are the best moderators out of any forum I've ever been to. They're so kind, and always fair.

p_quarles
May 18th, 2008, 12:29 AM
What are the criteria for doing a good job?

My guess is that most people think the staff does a good job when we do things they agree with. When we do things they disagree with, we're doing a bad job. ;)

Nano Geek
May 18th, 2008, 12:31 AM
They are doing an excellent job in my opinion.

Very polite and fair every time I've "dealt" with them. :)

vexorian
May 18th, 2008, 12:37 AM
Well, the forums have like millions of users and I don't see any g*at.*x links anywhere, so yep they are doing a great job.

teaker1s
May 18th, 2008, 12:39 AM
I think that meeting all people in general are like a buffet meal:-
some elements of it are great/ other elements donīt particularly appeal and we all would do things a little different to the next person (unless your a star trek borg)

I sure at times we all would make different choices, that said being impartial and accepting people have differing views= a good forum

Oldsoldier2003
May 18th, 2008, 03:25 AM
What are the criteria for doing a good job?

My guess is that most people think the staff does a good job when we do things they agree with. When we do things they disagree with, we're doing a bad job. ;)

Having been a forum mod and GM for a gaming company I think you hit it on the head. My boss always said follow your guidelines and if people bitch then we know you're doing your job.

Mr A Mouse
May 18th, 2008, 06:43 AM
They're terrible, horrible, no good, very bad, and they all need to move to Australia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_and_the_Terrible_Horrible_No_Good_Very_B ad_Day).

Hey ... why are all the mods looking at me, and why are they all reaching for a Big Red Button?

8-[

LaRoza
May 18th, 2008, 06:44 AM
Hey ... why are all the mods looking at me, and why are they all reaching for a Big Red Button?



It is small and red and yellow, and yes, I am reaching for it...

NightwishFan
May 18th, 2008, 07:05 AM
It is small and red and yellow, and yes, I am reaching for it...

Owned!! :popcorn:

*runs*

Bubba64
May 18th, 2008, 07:54 AM
I have found in my personal foibles in the forum a fair, and unbiased response in general.

Ripfox
May 18th, 2008, 08:04 AM
Good job from here.

ajmorris
May 18th, 2008, 10:15 AM
i think the forum staff do a fantastic job. More often than not, if someone receives an infraction etc. it is deserved. They are volunteers, and give their free time to keep us happy, i take my hat off to them :D and would also like to take this opportunity, as it is not said often enough, to thank all forum staff, because of all of your hard work, these forums are kept in good condition.

Τitus
May 18th, 2008, 11:59 AM
Despite the practice of real judgment the cases and ruling aren't public - this is the major point of criticism: the lack of transparency.

Minor points of criticism:

The 10 Point punishment is useless, because no one checks posts of such persons, and therefore it's a kick

Never expiring punishments and kicks can be decided by an individual moderator and of course without trial.

rune0077
May 18th, 2008, 01:55 PM
The 10 Point punishment is useless, because no one checks posts of such persons, and therefore it's a kick


Who aren't checking these posts? I can't see how many infractions you or anyone has, so I'm reading all posts on equal terms.

Τitus
May 18th, 2008, 02:03 PM
Who aren't checking these posts? I can't see how many infractions you or anyone has, so I'm reading all posts on equal terms.

Let me explain it:
when you got a 10 Point punishment all your posts have to be checked by a moderator, before they are visible - but this check probably will never occur and the postings will never appear, so that these stage of punishment is useless - but anyway this is only a minor point of criticism. The major point is the not existing transparency: There are the rules, but which postings were exactly banned is kept secret.

rune0077
May 18th, 2008, 02:06 PM
Let me explain it:
when you got a 10 Point punishment all your posts have to be checked by a moderator, before they are visible - but this check probably will never occur and the postings will never appear, so that these stage of punishment is useless

Oh okay, I was not aware of that. That makes sense, then.

bapoumba
May 18th, 2008, 05:54 PM
Let me explain it:
when you got a 10 Point punishment all your posts have to be checked by a moderator, before they are visible - but this check probably will never occur and the postings will never appear, so that these stage of punishment is useless - but anyway this is only a minor point of criticism. The major point is the not existing transparency: There are the rules, but which postings were exactly banned is kept secret.

Personal experience?

kevdog
May 18th, 2008, 05:58 PM
Last time I checked the forums were not a democracy!!! Its not like you as a regular user (like me) have been granted any rights or privileges when we sign up to post. As soon as you comprehend this concept and accept the notion that you are kind of here as a "guest", you will begrudgingly accept some of the things that happen to you here -- such as infractions, moved posts, etc.

I think the moderators actually do a great job -- every single one of them. The forums are the best part of ubuntu in general. If it wasn't for the forums, I'd probably on to another distro by now!!

teaker1s
May 18th, 2008, 06:09 PM
I used to look at the jail once every so often, it gave an idea of what the admins were doing to protect the forums standards.

I personally think being able to see jailed posts made it easier to understand the situation.

matthew
May 18th, 2008, 06:14 PM
I used to look at the jail once every so often, it gave an idea of what the admins were doing to protect the forums standards.

I personally think being able to see jailed posts made it easier to understand the situation.There was a lot of good in that. Unfortunately, the amount of work it took to remove porn and break links in the jail was more than we could keep up with. That is the only reason we closed it to public view...now, the porn pics are still removed, but links and spam remain in their full form.

Joeb454
May 18th, 2008, 06:22 PM
I've just had one thread jailed - at my request(I ended up being the thread starter :confused:) And I noticed that the thread starter can still view the thread.

Artificial Intelligence
May 18th, 2008, 06:30 PM
My fault, I should have moved the thread instead of posts, then it happens that if some users are making post in that thread the posts will be orphaned.
But luckly someone cleared it up for me :lolflag:
Nah, I rarely do mistakes, but sometimes a tired mind gets the better off you - I have two real jobs next to this volunteer job, so sometimes mistakes happen.

bapoumba
May 18th, 2008, 06:30 PM
I've just had one thread jailed - at my request(I ended up being the thread starter :confused:) And I noticed that the thread starter can still view the thread.

You should be able to see your own posts/threads in Jail, but not other's.

Regarding the thread, my guess is that the opening post was moved alone, and not the whole thread, which has been fixed now (not by me, thanks bodhi :)).

Edit: AI ;)

Canis familiaris
May 18th, 2008, 06:32 PM
Moderating a forum is a hard job, isn't it?

Artificial Intelligence
May 18th, 2008, 06:33 PM
Moderating a forum is a hard job, isn't it?

at this size and activities? Yes.

Joeb454
May 18th, 2008, 06:37 PM
I did wonder how that happened ;)

And to bapoumba - yes I can see that thread (as I was made the thread starter) and all posts within it, but nothing else

overdrank
May 18th, 2008, 06:37 PM
My thanks to all admins and mods for the great work

=D>=D>=D>=D>=D>

teaker1s
May 18th, 2008, 06:37 PM
When I came to the forums (2005 ),
I have always seen them to be a safe and welcoming place.

By this I mean that you could let a child look and post on here and know they are safe.
By welcoming I mean that everyone is treated in a respectful and equal manner.

I firmly believe that this forum is run smoothly and we avoid the unpleasant aspects that can ruin a community.

I would personally like to thank all those people who have helped me and also the forum staff for their hard work, much of which due to it's quality makes the forums seamlessly smooth.):P:biggrin:

LaRoza
May 18th, 2008, 06:49 PM
Despite the practice of real judgment the cases and ruling aren't public - this is the major point of criticism: the lack of transparency.

Minor points of criticism:

The 10 Point punishment is useless, because no one checks posts of such persons, and therefore it's a kick

Never expiring punishments and kicks can be decided by an individual moderator and of course without trial.

The 10 point infraction is a good balance I think. It allows an individual to be watched without restricting the use of tech support. Yes, we do check such posts (there is a "mod queue" in which all such posts show up and they are easy to approve) I personally only approve posts that are giving or asking for tech support, but I noticed others spend more time doing that than I.

There is no trial, no. But there is recourse. The Resolution Center and Forum Council and the Community Council are all steps to take after an infraction. There is nothing a moderator can do that can't be undone.

notwen
May 18th, 2008, 07:39 PM
<--- I don't really care. =]

I enjoy browsing, learning and contributing when I can to the forums. I haven't had any personal issue w/ any actions made by the forum staff, but one never knows when I might feel strongly enough to not be rational w/ a rational decision made by said forum staff and get myself some infractions. I do understand that maintaining such a large forum must be more like a 2nd job than a volunteering position. Just try to consider this should you ever have the urge to question their actions. They have a very fair system of working out issues and are generally pretty good at hearing someone out regarding any issue. So.. I don't really care.

Cheers to forum staff, general users and trouble makers.

Technoviking
May 20th, 2008, 02:24 PM
I refuse to vote in this poll since there is no pony selection.:(

ubuntu-geek
May 20th, 2008, 03:26 PM
I refuse to vote in this poll since there is no pony selection.:(
+1

matthew
May 20th, 2008, 04:37 PM
Pink ponies FTW!!!!!!!!!11

rune0077
May 20th, 2008, 04:53 PM
I mostly like the staff, it is just that they seem to have this weird obsession with ponies that, frankly, I find mildly disturbing :confused:

Artificial Intelligence
May 20th, 2008, 04:54 PM
shhhh....That's our secret in hiring staff.

PmDematagoda
May 20th, 2008, 06:18 PM
shhhh....That's our secret in hiring staff.

That and the fact that the member/s in question should have a long history of horsing about.

.....ooops...sorry fellows, I gave out our other secret in recruiting members#-o.

LaRoza
May 20th, 2008, 07:27 PM
I mostly like the staff, it is just that they seem to have this weird obsession with ponies that, frankly, I find mildly disturbing :confused:

I just want you to know: I had no part in it. I have tried to ignore this pony fad.

On the other hand, Star Trek and HHG2G are a hit with me. Monty Python follows.

rune0077
May 20th, 2008, 07:44 PM
On the other hand, Star Trek and HHG2G are a hit with me. Monty Python follows.

That is far more understandable than the ponies. I greatly enjoy two out of those three (more of a Star Wars fan than Star Trek).

LaRoza
May 20th, 2008, 08:07 PM
That is far more understandable than the ponies. I greatly enjoy two out of those three (more of a Star Wars fan than Star Trek).

Note, only the admins are Pony fans.

I like Star Wars also. I do like it more than Star Trek mostly as well. However, I don't feel a need to spread hate over trivial preferences (note: Vim and Opera are not trivial, and worth going on the warpath)

justin whitaker
May 20th, 2008, 08:07 PM
Let the thread stay open anyway, regardless of the impetus for it. It looks like most people are on the admin's side anyway. :)

For my part: the only issue I have ever had with the Forum Staff was the banning of Rav. I didn't see the point of that, but it's really an admin decision.

Overall: this is a fantastic resource, and the admins keep it that way. Kudos all around!

Technoviking
May 20th, 2008, 08:13 PM
I mostly like the staff, it is just that they seem to have this weird obsession with ponies that, frankly, I find mildly disturbing :confused:

It is part of our plan for making money

1. Ponies
2. ______
3. Profit

justin whitaker
May 20th, 2008, 08:14 PM
It is part of our plan for making money

1. Ponies
2. ______
3. Profit

It's a good thing that you lot can't collectively crack step 2. If you ever did, you would take over the world! :)

Bubba64
May 20th, 2008, 08:18 PM
It's a good thing that you lot can't collectively crack step 2. If you ever did, you would take over the world! :)

The Pink Pony is a rare breed, and quite valuable.

fatality_uk
May 20th, 2008, 08:42 PM
Well I had an infraction a while back which peeded me off. I made a joke, the joke got lost in a flame fest and I seem to get points on my license which I will sulk about till the flesh drops from my rotting corpse and the worms have finished with my decaying meat.

Not that I am bitter or anything :D

But other than, they seem to do a great job

LaRoza
May 20th, 2008, 09:06 PM
Well I had an infraction a while back which peeded me off. I made a joke, the joke got lost in a flame fest and I seem to get points on my license which I will sulk about till the flesh drops from my rotting corpse and the worms have finished with my decaying meat.

Not that I am bitter or anything :D

But other than, they seem to do a great job

An expired warning you mean ;)

rune0077
May 20th, 2008, 09:09 PM
It is part of our plan for making money

1. Ponies
2. ______
3. Profit

1. Ponies
2. Compile
3. Profit

Fenris_rising
May 20th, 2008, 09:28 PM
they have, as many different forum mods have, an unenviable task.
caned for coming down hard and on the other hand blasted for
not being seen to do their job. just remember without them it
would be chaos in here.

fatality_uk
May 20th, 2008, 10:07 PM
An expired warning you mean ;)

lol yeah just dredge the past up all the time why don't you :lolflag:
Yeah expired warning thing :D

No seriously, can't fault the guys and girls!!! Bravo!!!!