Blu-ray Plugin - How Close?

[poke4christ]

So how close are we to a Blu-ray plugin for MythTV? I'm thinking about building a system pretty soon and the readers have gotten pretty cheap. You can get them for a little less than 200 now. If it can be made to work, I think it's worth the extra 150 bucks over a basic DVD reader/burner. However, if it ain't happening anytime soon then I might as well buy a 30-50 dollar drive now and upgrading when it is available. By that time the drive will probably be less anyway. What do ya'll think?

[Trimble Epic]

It's probably going to be long uphill battle for blu-ray on linux. a Loooong battle.

[Caps18]

http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/security/dmorrill/archives/how-to-rip-blue-ray-movies-using-your-ps3-13318

This makes it sound as if you can rip the movies from a blu-ray player to your hard drive and then play them back. I'm not sure which player you would use, maybe there is something inside the PS3 that lets you play it back, but I am interested in seeing if someone can get this to work. Not just for playing, but also for burning back-ups of TV show seasons and such.

I still like HD-DVD better though because I will never pay more than $200 for any player. I have one of those to upconvert my DVDs and play The Matrix, Planet Earth, and Serenity.

Actually, if this works, I might need to get a few more 1 TB hard drives for my Mythbuntu box. :)

[ubuntuman001]

http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/security/dmorrill/archives/how-to-rip-blue-ray-movies-using-your-ps3-13318

This makes it sound as if you can rip the movies from a blu-ray player to your hard drive and then play them back. I'm not sure which player you would use, maybe there is something inside the PS3 that lets you play it back, but I am interested in seeing if someone can get this to work. Not just for playing, but also for burning back-ups of TV show seasons and such.

I still like HD-DVD better though because I will never pay more than $200 for any player. I have one of those to upconvert my DVDs and play The Matrix, Planet Earth, and Serenity.

Actually, if this works, I might need to get a few more 1 TB hard drives for my Mythbuntu box. :)The only problem which HD-DVD is...it'll be pretty much extinct probably by this summer.

Most major movie studios, Blockbuster, Wal-mart, Netflix, and a bunch of other companies have switched to Blu-ray only, giving it the advantage over HD-DVD.

[newlinux]

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD

This is older info, so I don't know where it is now, but I'd guess it has improved. I know some where having problems with audio, but video was working fine.

[poke4christ]

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD

This is older info, so I don't know where it is now, but I'd guess it has improved. I know some where having problems with audio, but video was working fine.

Still not the simplicity of a mythTV plugin quite yet. I think I'm probably just going to go with a cheap (only 30 bucks, Heck yes) DVD drive. With as cheap as it is, it won't be much of a price difference (if any with costs coming down) when a plugin finally does come out.

[newlinux]

well, if you get mplayer to work with it, then you can have mythvideo play ripped Blu-ray discs pretty easily, but playing them right off the disc might be a long ways a way...

[poke4christ]

well, if you get mplayer to work with it, then you can have mythvideo play ripped Blu-ray discs pretty easily, but playing them right off the disc might be a long ways a way...

That's funny right there. you HAVE to rip it to play it. :D

[newlinux]

That's funny right there. you HAVE to rip it to play it. :D

Yes, that is ironic :):lolflag:

[Caps18]

Now that would be a cool plug-in. You would just put the disk in, it would rip it to the hard drive and then let you play it. Load times might suck, but it would work for me.


The only problem which HD-DVD is...it'll be pretty much extinct probably by this summer.

Most major movie studios, Blockbuster, Wal-mart, Netflix, and a bunch of other companies have switched to Blu-ray only, giving it the advantage over HD-DVD.

There is something fishy going on with Blu-ray's rise in the past 4 weeks... I mean Warner isn't going to release that many movies in the next two years that I would want. It will give Blu-ray the movies that made me select HD-DVD currently, and LOTR will probably be the movie that gets everyone to get Blu-ray (even though I downloaded it already...). The fact that kids movies are primarily Blu might influence the parents, and the PS3 has been huge at getting the players out there. But it doesn't make economic sense for Netflix, Blockbuster & Best Buy to stop making money off HD-DVD sales, unless they got more money from some other place to make it worth their while to only push the more expensive technology.

But I am excited that I might be able to use my Mythbuntu box to save and play movies that I can rent.

[Ubeast]

There is something fishy going on with Blu-ray's rise in the past 4 weeks... I mean Warner isn't going to release that many movies in the next two years that I would want. It will give Blu-ray the movies that made me select HD-DVD currently, and LOTR will probably be the movie that gets everyone to get Blu-ray (even though I downloaded it already...). The fact that kids movies are primarily Blu might influence the parents, and the PS3 has been huge at getting the players out there. But it doesn't make economic sense for Netflix, Blockbuster & Best Buy to stop making money off HD-DVD sales, unless they got more money from some other place to make it worth their while to only push the more expensive technology.

It does make sense.

No one wants a format war, especially retailers. Confused consumers are consumers that don't consume. You and I aren't the typical consumer or we wouldn't be in a Mythbuntu forum.

IMHO the only reason retailers have been selling both formats for so long is because it was still possible for the war to topple either way. Once momentum started to swing to Blu-Ray, the retailers started cutting their loses and siding with the victor. Thing of it from Best-Buys point of view, they sell a guy an HD-DVD player with the line "state of the art, you can't go wrong, replacing DVD"... that guy goes home and 12 months later HD-DVD is dead, he is going to be pissed, and pissed at Best-Buys! They don't want that, they don't want to sell another player or system for a dead format because it will hurt future sales, a lot!

[ubuntuman001]

At least the HD DVD vs Blu-ray point is moot, now that HD DVD is officialy dead: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7252172.stm

[Caps18]

That comment really helped the topic of this thread.

What I want to happen is for this Blu-ray drive,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106227&Tpk=blu-ray
to be supported along with software like this in linux (this may exist, they had to have something to do this on the PS3 running linux).
http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html
And then to make sure that mplayer can play them back with no problem.

So can I do that yet? I'm in no hurry to do this, but it would be nice knowing I could.

[lokimon]

That comment really helped the topic of this thread.

What I want to happen is for this Blu-ray drive,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106227&Tpk=blu-ray
to be supported along with software like this in linux (this may exist, they had to have something to do this on the PS3 running linux).
http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html
And then to make sure that mplayer can play them back with no problem.

So can I do that yet? I'm in no hurry to do this, but it would be nice knowing I could.

i'm curious too, as i just finished building a new myth box with a blu-ray/hd-dvd drive, and i didn't realize that it wouldn't be able to play those discs.

[LinuxPS2]

atleast you can install linux on something like a ps3 or just rip the disk if you have a blu-ray drive using the dd command... as far as i know the only program that can remove AACS and BD+ is anydvd hd for windows :(... and its somewhere in the $100 range... and they are not actively looking to make a linux version b/c they don't want to add non-GPL code to the kernel (they work on the kernel level so they would make a kernel patch) and they will not release their code under gpl.. :(