Lenny goes Stable this year

[p_quarles]

http://lwn.net/Articles/267722/
Early April 2008
Freeze of the essential toolchain

Mid of June 2008
Freeze of the non-essential toolchain and all libraries
The "non-essential toolchain" means things like debhelper, cdbs
and a big chunk of other things usually needed to produce binary
packages.

Mid of July 2008
Full freeze
Please don't wait with uploads for the last day before the freeze,
thanks.

September 2008
Release lenny!
It's already pretty stable at this point, of course, but it will soon be official.

[steveneddy]

woo-hoo!

:roll:

[p_quarles]

woo-hoo!

:roll:
Well, it's exciting to me!

<finds a corner and cries self to sleep>

[Whiffle]

Sweet. I'll get to choose between hardy, whatever is after hardy, and lenny. If the one after hardy is anything like gutsy has been... i'll be using lenny...or hardy, or maybe even feisty still if they both fail to impress. Or maybe I won't upgrade at all...I've got everything I want on this thing right now.

[dptxp]

I am waiting, waiting, and waiting for my first pure Debian. It is going to be Lenny.

[kerry_s]

lenny's pretty busy to, there's been updates everyday. :)

[yabbadabbadont]

So Lenny is the current "testing" version? If you wanted to always use the current testing version of Debian, what would you put in your sources.lst? Just replace "lenny" with "testing"?

Are there versions of cairo and libXft that have the new sub-pixel rendering patches for LCD monitors, or do you have to build them yourself?

[kerry_s]

So Lenny is the current "testing" version? If you wanted to always use the current testing version of Debian, what would you put in your sources.lst? Just replace "lenny" with "testing"?

Are there versions of cairo and libXft that have the new sub-pixel rendering patches for LCD monitors, or do you have to build them yourself?

yeah, you could just change etch to lenny if you want to run a pure lenny. i run a mixed etch/lenny cause the etch kernels work better for me.


deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free


not sure on the font thing, heres the synaptic screen shots.

[angryfirelord]

So Lenny is the current "testing" version? If you wanted to always use the current testing version of Debian, what would you put in your sources.lst? Just replace "lenny" with "testing"?
Yup. Just be careful when you upgrade and watch for any packages that might get removed.

Are there versions of cairo and libXft that have the new sub-pixel rendering patches for LCD monitors, or do you have to build them yourself?
Depends, what version were those features introduced? You can see them here:

http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

[notwen]

currently running a lightweight gnome install on etch right now for my file server. looking forward to lenny's stable release. =]

[yabbadabbadont]

@kerry_s and angryfirelord: Thanks for the info.

[angryfirelord]

@kerry_s and angryfirelord: Thanks for the info.
Sure. :)

As far as Lenny's release schedule goes, one should never take that date seriously. Debian's releases are always delayed and I would be rather shocked if this one came out as they said. Not that being delayed is a bad thing (in fact, it's delayed for a good reason: bug fixing), but having an on-time Debian release is like having 3D Realms release Duke Nukem Forever. :)

[odiseo77]

I'm using Lenny/Sid and except some xserver update which broke my 3D rendering (already fixed), I find it very stable. When it comes to Debian I'm always in the testing branch, so as soon as Lenny becomes stable I'll upgrade to testing :)

[p_quarles]

I'm using Lenny/Sid and except some xserver update which broke my 3D rendering (already fixed), I find it very stable. When it comes to Debian I'm always in the testing branch, so as soon as Lenny becomes stable I'll upgrade to testing :)
Yeah, it's pretty bug free as it is. "Stable" for Debian has a different meaning than most destkop distros, hence the indeterminate development cycle.

I'll probably upgrade to the new Testing as well, and will leave Etch on my server until its end of life. So, Lenny going Stable actually means I won't be using it any more.

[notwen]

Sure. :)

As far as Lenny's release schedule goes, one should never take that date seriously. Debian's releases are always delayed and I would be rather shocked if this one came out as they said. Not that being delayed is a bad thing (in fact, it's delayed for a good reason: bug fixing), but having an on-time Debian release is like having 3D Realms release Duke Nukem Forever. :)

LOL, so very true. Most of these delays ensure the Debian release will be rock solid and normally that is the case. =]

[voteforpedro36]

So will Etch be the new Sarge?

[tturrisi]

So will Etch be the new Sarge?

No sarge is sarge, woody is woody, etch is etch, lenny is lenny. The new testing will get a new name and sid is always sid.

[angryfirelord]

So will Etch be the new Sarge?
When Lenny enters Stable, Etch will be moved into the Oldstable category and Sarge will be moved into the archives, where it will no longer receive any security updates. Then, a new name will be given to the testing branch and the cycle starts all over again.

[mojoman]

Good news, I suppose. I'm running Lenny now and it's rock solid. Still, I'm a bit surprised, it's not that long since Etch hit stable (or am I getting old and start losing perspective on time?). Anyway, in the end it'll be released according to the Debian schedule, i.e. when it's *ready* to be released. I think that's a pretty sound philosophy.

[manmower]

Are there versions of cairo and libXft that have the new sub-pixel rendering patches for LCD monitors, or do you have to build them yourself?

No, unfortunately there are no such packages in Debian, not even in unstable. My guess is this has to do with the "freedom" of these patches still being contested.

I know I can't live without them. I wouldn't even consider using a distribution which doesn't provide them in some easy way anymore. :oops: