Which e17 distro do you use or like the best?

[RAV TUX]

Just curious to see what people are using...or which they find they like the best.
(even if you don't use an e17 distro, list which you have tested and liked the best or disliked the least) ;)

From the UEOSC (http://cafelinux.org/ueosc/) website:


Yellow Dog Linux (http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/)
Elive (http://www.elivecd.org/)
OzOs|apt:foo (http://cafelinux.org/OzOs/)
gOS (http://www.thinkgos.com/)
Elbuntu (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://e17blog.tuxfamily.org/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=4&ct=result&prev=/sea)
OpenGEU (http://geubuntu.intilinux.com/Home.html)
Maryan Linux (http://maryanlinux.wordpress.com/)
http://cafelinux.org/ueosc/

Other options would be:

I prefer to compile from CVS
Other

[ahaslam]

E17 on Zenwalk is pretty sweet: http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs112&d=07071&f=e17screen.png
So that's a 'compile form cvs/other' ;)

[RAV TUX]

E17 on Zenwalk is pretty sweet: http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs112&d=07071&f=e17screen.png
So that's a 'compile form cvs/other' ;)
Very nice screenshot ahaslam, I always enjoy the polish and refinement of e17. ;)

RAV

[Freddy]

I use OzOS, I like it but I had to customize it quite hard and install some programs before I really enjoyed it. I hope that in the next version you and Rui will make a better selection of programs included and customize the iBar with them. But I really, really like OzOS.

I will try Maryan Linux when they will release the beta but I probably will not leave OzOS, why would I. It works like a charm.

[Freddy]

E17 on Zenwalk is pretty sweet: http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs112&d=07071&f=e17screen.png
So that's a 'compile form cvs/other' ;)
What GTK theme are you using, thats one amazing setup.

[RAV TUX]

I use OzOS, I like it but I had to customize it quite hard and install some programs before I really enjoyed it. I hope that in the next version you and Rui will make a better selection of programs included and customize the iBar with them. But I really, really like OzOS.

I will try Maryan Linux when they will release the beta but I probably will not leave OzOS, why would I. It works like a charm.Good to hear Freddy, I am glad you enjoy OzOs. ;)

[Freddy]

Good to hear Freddy, I am glad you enjoy OzOs. ;)
I cant do so much for your distro code or graphic wise but at least I have seeded it 24/7 (13-15gb and ticking) for a week or so.

People, download OzOS I have 8Mbit to spare for you all :).

[ahaslam]

What GTK theme are you using, thats one amazing setup.
Truth for linux: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Truth+for+linux?content=45987

;)

[Kingsley]

Tried E17 on Fedora and didn't like. It felt like some functionality was missing.

[Freddy]

Truth for linux: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Truth+for+linux?content=45987

;)
Thanks a bunch, that just amazingly good looking.

[RAV TUX]

I cant do so much for your distro code or graphic wise but at least I have seeded it 24/7 (13-15gb and ticking) for a week or so.

People, download OzOS I have 8Mbit to spare for you all :).
Freddy, Thanks a bunch this helps us out a lot and I do greatly appreciate it.

Your awesome!

RAV

[urukrama]

Isn't this better suited for the "Other OS" forum?

[RAV TUX]

Tried E17 on Fedora and didn't like. It felt like some functionality was missing.

Did you try Yellow Dog Linux?

[RAV TUX]

A nice, friendly gentle bump.

[vishzilla]

I wish to try an E17 distro...What works great out-of-the-box?

[Freddy]

I wish to try an E17 distro...What works great out-of-the-box?
I want to promote OzOS but with that distro it doesn't hurt of you already know your way around Enlightenment some.

Elive is a good distro configured nicely with a good selection of applications and menus but it uses a rather old and outdated build of E, so I cant recommend it.

gOS selection of apps is kind of weird.

OpenGEU is not a real E17 distro, to my knowledge is uses E as a WM over a Gnome setup.

Maryan Linux is unknown for now but I think that Maryan Linux will be quite good, we'll have to wait and check it out February 11th.

So my recommendations is OzOS but you'll have to use it for a while to get to know it or to wait for Maryan Linux.

/Cheers.

[Kingsley]

Did you try Yellow Dog Linux?

Nah. I don't have a PS3 or old Mac computer.

[RAV TUX]

I wish to try an E17 distro...What works great out-of-the-box?

OzOs (http://cafelinux.org/OzOs/)

I want to promote OzOS but with that distro it doesn't hurt of you already know your way around Enlightenment some.
...

So my recommendations is OzOS but you'll have to use it for a while to get to know it or to wait for Maryan Linux.

/Cheers.

The nice thing about OzOs is it has been built, maintained, by ubuntuforum.org community members.

The same community friendliness, and helpfulnes you experience here can be experienced at the OzOs Forum(known as CafeLinux Forum). (http://cafelinux.org/forum/)

While the ISO released is a 64bit build, you can also install on a 32-bit build using a Deb file, we suggest you do this on a Ubuntu "minimal" base , I personally have used a Xubuntu base, even a Ubuntu Hebrew Remix and Sidux base.

Anyway stop by the CafeLinux Forum (http://cafelinux.org/forum/), while we're not as big as here, it will feel like coming home to a big family or visiting a small friendly town.

RAV TUX

[RAV TUX]

bump

[smartboyathome]

For now, OzOS. I will try Maryan Linux when it comes out though. Oz is great, Maryan should be too. :)

[molom]

RAV or anyone else, can you help me out?
I'm getting people telling me that e17 is very unstable, some that say its stable and some say that its very stable. I've used e17 many times, but not enough to know how is the stability of it. I've only received those e17 recover errors when I modify E17 (shelves, modules and whatever), but never when I would do word documents or surf the net. It seems stable to me, but I don't have as much experience in E17 compared to Gnome, KDE and XFCE even though I love E17 the most.

Can you guys give me your opinions on E17?

Cheers,
molom

[zoe-scutterbug]

Hi
I use opengeu ...I haven't seen an E17 error message for weeks. Occasionally the native gnome and kde applications I run on it falter (e.g. some wireless apps)...but me thinks E17 is getting increasingly stable.


zoe

[RAV TUX]

For now, OzOS. I will try Maryan Linux when it comes out though. Oz is great, Maryan should be too. :)

Glad to here you use and like OzOs. I am sure Maryan Linux will be just as nice.

RAV or anyone else, can you help me out?
I'm getting people telling me that e17 is very unstable, some that say its stable and some say that its very stable. I've used e17 many times, but not enough to know how is the stability of it. I've only received those e17 recover errors when I modify E17 (shelves, modules and whatever), but never when I would do word documents or surf the net. It seems stable to me, but I don't have as much experience in E17 compared to Gnome, KDE and XFCE even though I love E17 the most.

Can you guys give me your opinions on E17?

Cheers,
molom

molom, glad to help I can honestly say I have never recieved an error message or had any problems using e17.

I will say this is primarily because I use a version of e17 hand built by Rui Pais. Rui Pais is the most discriminating e17 user I know and this is important to have a stable e17 environment, this is why he is also the primary Dev for OzOs.

Rui Pais has done all the hard for you already to create an e17 desktop that is more stable then Gnome, KDE, XFCE, ICEwm or Fluxbox.

Try OzOs (http://cafelinux.org/OzOs/) and see for yourself.

Also molom most people who complain about e17 being unstable have not compiled it correctly, to compile form CVS the right way(to have a stable e17) go here:

Updated Link for Enlightenment install Thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=546746&highlight=e17&page=7).

Hi
I use opengeu ...I haven't seen an E17 error message for weeks. Occasionally the native gnome and kde applications I run on it falter (e.g. some wireless apps)...but me thinks E17 is getting increasingly stable.


zoeGood to here zoe I am sure OpenGEU is an awesome e17 distro. ;)

[molom]

Thanks RAV,
I'm sure your CVS is one of the best, I've heard so many positive things about the CVS and OZOS.

Just out of curiosity I have some few questions? (Sorry for asking so many)

Why is Rui Pais' CVS so good, other than its stability? Is it compatible with all the other e17 stuff you see (modules, themes, animated wallpapers and everything else) like on get-e and e17stuff?

And when a new E17 comes out by the enlightenment team, how long does it take for it to be available in Rui's CVS? Or is it like Arch where e17 is updated automatically?

Why do some people say that OZOS is not the most beginner recommended distro, I thought it was based on ubuntu?

And why did someone say that OpenGEU isn't a real e17 distro, doesn't OpenGEU use what OZOS and ebuntu use?

When the OZOS 32bit ISO comes out I will definitely try it out, I really like e17 and have already tried OpenGEU, gOS and elive.

Tell Rui that I thank him for putting so much work into the CVS.

Cheers,
molom

[Rui Pais]

RAV or anyone else, can you help me out?
I'm getting people telling me that e17 is very unstable, some that say its stable and some say that its very stable. I've used e17 many times, but not enough to know how is the stability of it. I've only received those e17 recover errors when I modify E17 (shelves, modules and whatever), but never when I would do word documents or surf the net. It seems stable to me, but I don't have as much experience in E17 compared to Gnome, KDE and XFCE even though I love E17 the most.

Can you guys give me your opinions on E17?

Hi molom, your questions are very interesting.

I'm very used too, to that never ending issue with e17 stability... usually instead of give my opinion, that will always be just an opinion, i prefer to think a little what stability is.
Most people seems to accept that is something "released" and without bugs.
To me, there is no way that any non-trivial piece of code (and anything with more than ten lines it's non-trivial). It's an utopia. Even in this thread there's a user that mention that he found more crashings on gnome or xfce applicattions than in e itself.
There are always things popping here and there, and with DEs (in general terms) one have to count yet with the multiplicity of hardware configurations that make broken things appear to some users that with other worked ok...

The "releases" topic its more important specially in the case of e17. A release isn't just a date and a step mark for devs.
It means that devs decided (a personal choice, although) that things work well without much hitches and all features are well implemented.
Without going too much technical, that means that functions implemented by code are all defined and it's characteristics (arguments) will stay that way for at least that release.
With e17 that's not the case. Code is always under construction, and no final version for functions has been lay out (no api frozen).
So code *can* break anytime in any update. Worst, since most of artwork under e17 it's compiled too, it can break too on api changes, what happen with a certain frequency...

So if one says this is not stable because it have bugs... i said everything have bugs.
It work at some point and can be used on a daily based? Well, like you and others i've been using it for quite a long and find it more simple and usable than most DEs :)
Its so stable it will never break? No. No way. But give me the one that never break or have issues...

What i think it's important, about distros and e17 implementations, it's have this in mind.
Don't say its pure stability to the users. Issues may happen! One can't even guarantee that user don't get some old theme from net and end up without no menus or no bars or a continuous splash of segfaults...
Every computer user must know that can hit problems. And every user must know that they are usually solvable.
That's what i personally think that things should be. For everything! e17 it's just a case where this is just a little more delicate.

I'm sure your CVS is one of the best, I've heard so many positive things about the CVS and OZOS.

Just out of curiosity I have some few questions? (Sorry for asking so many)
You have something not correct here and i think it's the concept of CVS i'll try to explain.
I have nothing to do with CVS code or even have made a single contribution (:( i'm a very basic C programmer).
Just to clarify (sorry if you already know that) e17 code it's collected and make available using a system called CVS (mainly it contains the first version of code and all diffs with changes in time).
When a user want to get e17 code to compile he/she can get a compressed file with all code from the time when file was made or can use cvs application to get the latest version of code available.
This are 2 different methods. Usually snapshots of code are available but are old. A must better choice it's getting the code from cvs servers.

My method it's just a bunch of script (the main one, made by one e17 dev, morlenxus, and all credit goes to him) wrapped on a deb for convenience, that made all that process easy for basic users and keep flexible for advanced users.
I don't made any change to e17 code. It's the install method that it's more sane and get a more stable version. The code it's the same.
What i do it's set to default to just get from cvs the minimum needed and the most stable possible.
If something it's implemented on non-e apps, i put that away and leave to the user the choice of get the non-e app or leave the decision of get something less stable to user.

Why is Rui Pais' CVS so good, other than its stability? Is it compatible with all the other e17 stuff you see (modules, themes, animated wallpapers and everything else) like on get-e and e17stuff?
About compatibility with artwork, it's more the other way around :)
As i said, theres no way to guarantee that any theme will work with any e17 version. :(
Theme makers must update they themes as api changes.
That means that most of the themes will work only for the latest code and old themes (not maintained) will work only on some old versions... which one? only trial can answer.
Even on get-e.org you have theme that are marked as have api issues (and sometimes there are themes there not working anymore, marked as red).
Usually if a theme it's actively maintained, believe me, maintainer will stick with latest cvs code (it's hard and useless to keep a version for some old version on a repo).
And again don't forget your user will eventually get themes from net, so one must be prepare to deal with that.

And when a new E17 comes out by the enlightenment team, how long does it take for it to be available in Rui's CVS? Or is it like Arch where e17 is updated automatically?
Well, after get what cvs code means, it's easy to see that one ;)
enlightenment team don't put code out in an all (no release). They just update, constantly, the code. With e17-cvs/OzOS, it's left to the user when to update. I update daily. A less experimented user can update weekly. Non-experienced users should update with more care. I think it's fundamental have a forum or a thread where changes are discussing and read cvs logs before update.
The advantage of CVS it's that you can have any date you want.
The advantage of e17-cvs/morlenxus script it's that you have all e17 in one independent folder.
So even if things broken bad, it's not hard remove all and install lasts day or last stable date again, and it's easy (a simple copy of a folder) to make a backup of a stable version before update.


Why do some people say that OZOS is not the most beginner recommended distro, I thought it was based on ubuntu?
I personally think that some opinions on the skills of users can be sometimes a little offensive for them ;)
Of course there are people that may not know how to copy a folder or run a single line from a terminal... but thats not the average Linux basic user (or someone install they Linux for them).
Anyway if an OzOS user don't know such things it will not update and only get the stable version of install... so i don't really see it as such an issue.


And why did someone say that OpenGEU isn't a real e17 distro, doesn't OpenGEU use what OZOS and ebuntu use?
Thats not correct. OpenGEU it's a e17 centered distro that tries to keep some usability of others DEs that new users (of e) may miss. Usually that it's done using gnome/xfce applets that require a panel from those DEs. OpenGEU used a xfce panel and are moving to fbpanel.
We all use of course the same enlightenment, e17, but OpenGEu and ebuntu uses Lutin's repo (and i think MaryanLinux will use that too?) They are very good and usually updated.
Oz OS, of course, don't use a repo for e17, but the code directly.


When the OZOS 32bit ISO comes out I will definitely try it out, I really like e17 and have already tried OpenGEU, gOS and elive.

Tell Rui that I thank him for putting so much work into the CVS.

Cheers,
molom
Thanks molom. I keep an eye on all too, yours included that i think it looks quite promising (i like your taste on artwok a lot!)
Btw, you or maty1206 (or anyone else) may have interest in read this thread here:
http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php/topic,1012.0.html
if you may think in create your own e17 repo.
e17-cvs it's GPL and it was made as a useful tool to anyone who wants to implement and use e17 with full power in mind.
It's not a OzOS only tool or some private "feature".

Cheers molom.


(Sorry the long post but it was a lot of questions and i wanted to answer clearly and detailed.)

[Rui Pais]

RAV you make more threads than i could possibly follow ;)

This one it's very interesting. I'm curios not so much on who gets more or gets less but in how "populations" sizes relates and how many votes in total can you get.
(maybe you should have made a several choices pool, since a lot of people, living in pure stability ;), use several...)

I will say this is primarily because I use a version of e17 hand built by Rui Pais.
No my friend, you made your own with your own hands, at most i just guided yours :)

Rui Pais is the most discriminating e17 user I know and this is important to have a stable e17 environment, this is why he is also the primary Dev for OzOs.

Rui Pais has done all the hard for you already to create an e17 desktop that is more stable then Gnome, KDE, XFCE, ICEwm or Fluxbox.


Thanks a lot RAV. :D
I hope it keeps going well.

Just to complement my answer to molom.
The usual things that make e17 installs unstable (and people associated that with e17):
-Installations that implement all e17 (broken and proto apps are identify with e17)

-Implementations that installs e17 on main /usr, mixed with system (even if it works it's hard to remove/clean without mess)

-Mixing of repos/methods (mixing install paths, that links apps against incorrect libs).

-User don't know/forget that API changes and that artwork it's compiled, so a plain bad/broken theme can destroy they conf. (usually a clean configuration solve it, but sometimes ranting it's the chosen root :()

-Bad implementations of non-e apps (panels that refuse to close when asked, apps that update outputs on systray but don't update they main title so can't be used simply minimized, weird implementations with daemons...)

[RAV TUX]

Hi molom, your questions are very interesting.

I'm very used too, to that never ending issue with e17 stability... usually instead of give my opinion, that will always be just an opinion, i prefer to think a little what stability is.
Most people seems to accept that is something "released" and without bugs.
To me, there is no way that any non-trivial piece of code (and anything with more than ten lines it's non-trivial). It's an utopia. Even in this thread there's a user that mention that he found more crashings on gnome or xfce applicattions than in e itself.
There are always things popping here and there, and with DEs (in general terms) one have to count yet with the multiplicity of hardware configurations that make broken things appear to some users that with other worked ok...

The "releases" topic its more important specially in the case of e17. A release isn't just a date and a step mark for devs.
It means that devs decided (a personal choice, although) that things work well without much hitches and all features are well implemented.
Without going too much technical, that means that functions implemented by code are all defined and it's characteristics (arguments) will stay that way for at least that release.
With e17 that's not the case. Code is always under construction, and no final version for functions has been lay out (no api frozen).
So code *can* break anytime in any update. Worst, since most of artwork under e17 it's compiled too, it can break too on api changes, what happen with a certain frequency...

So if one says this is not stable because it have bugs... i said everything have bugs.
It work at some point and can be used on a daily based? Well, like you and others i've been using it for quite a long and find it more simple and usable than most DEs
Its so stable it will never break? No. No way. But give me the one that never break or have issues...

What i think it's important, about distros and e17 implementations, it's have this in mind.
Don't say its pure stability to the users. Issues may happen! One can't even guarantee that user don't get some old theme from net and end up without no menus or no bars or a continuous splash of segfaults...
Every computer user must know that can hit problems. And every user must know that they are usually solvable.
That's what i personally think that things should be. For everything! e17 it's just a case where this is just a little more delicate.


You have something not correct here and i think it's the concept of CVS i'll try to explain.
I have nothing to do with CVS code or even have made a single contribution ( i'm a very basic C programmer).
Just to clarify (sorry if you already know that) e17 code it's collected and make available using a system called CVS (mainly it contains the first version of code and all diffs with changes in time).
When a user want to get e17 code to compile he/she can get a compressed file with all code from the time when file was made or can use cvs application to get the latest version of code available.
This are 2 different methods. Usually snapshots of code are available but are old. A must better choice it's getting the code from cvs servers.

My method it's just a bunch of script (the main one, made by one e17 dev, morlenxus, and all credit goes to him) wrapped on a deb for convenience, that made all that process easy for basic users and keep flexible for advanced users.
I don't made any change to e17 code. It's the install method that it's more sane and get a more stable version. The code it's the same.
What i do it's set to default to just get from cvs the minimum needed and the most stable possible.
If something it's implemented on non-e apps, i put that away and leave to the user the choice of get the non-e app or leave the decision of get something less stable to user.


About compatibility with artwork, it's more the other way around :)
As i said, theres no way to guarantee that any theme will work with any e17 version.
Theme makers must update they themes as api changes.
That means that most of the themes will work only for the latest code and old themes (not maintained) will work only on some old versions... which one? only trial can answer.
Even on get-e.org you have theme that are marked as have api issues (and sometimes there are themes there not working anymore, marked as red).
Usually if a theme it's actively maintained, believe me, maintainer will stick with latest cvs code (it's hard and useless to keep a version for some old version on a repo).
And again don't forget your user will eventually get themes from net, so one must be prepare to deal with that.


Well, after get what cvs code means, it's easy to see that one
enlightenment team don't put code out in an all (no release). They just update, constantly, the code. With e17-cvs/OzOS, it's left to the user when to update. I update daily. A less experimented user can update weekly. Non-experienced users should update with more care. I think it's fundamental have a forum or a thread where changes are discussing and read cvs logs before update.
The advantage of CVS it's that you can have any date you want.
The advantage of e17-cvs/morlenxus script it's that you have all e17 in one independent folder.
So even if things broken bad, it's not hard remove all and install lasts day or last stable date again, and it's easy (a simple copy of a folder) to make a backup of a stable version before update.


I personally think that some opinions on the skills of users can be sometimes a little offensive for them ;)
Of course there are people that may not know how to copy a folder or run a single line from a terminal... but thats not the average Linux basic user (or someone install they Linux for them).
Anyway if an OzOS user don't know such things it will not update and only get the stable version of install... so i don't really see it as such an issue.


Thats not correct. OpenGEU it's a e17 centered distro that tries to keep some usability of others DEs that new users (of e) may miss. Usually that it's done using gnome/xfce applets that require a panel from those DEs. OpenGEU used a xfce panel and are moving to fbpanel.
We all use of course the same enlightenment, e17, but OpenGEu and ebuntu uses Lutin's repo (and i think MaryanLinux will use that too?) They are very good and usually updated.
Oz OS, of course, don't use a repo for e17, but the code directly.


Thanks molom. I keep an eye on all too, yours included that i think it looks quite promising (i like your taste on artwok a lot!)
Btw, you or maty1206 (or anyone else) may have interest in read this thread here:
http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php/topic,1012.0.html
if you may think in create your own e17 repo.
e17-cvs it's GPL and it was made as a useful tool to anyone who wants to implement and use e17 with full power in mind.
It's not a OzOS only tool or some private "feature".

Cheers molom.


(Sorry the long post but it was a lot of questions and i wanted to answer clearly and detailed.)

RAV you make more threads than i could possibly follow ;)

This one it's very interesting. I'm curios not so much on who gets more or gets less but in how "populations" sizes relates and how many votes in total can you get.
(maybe you should have made a several choices pool, since a lot of people, living in pure stability ;), use several...)


No my friend, you made your own with your own hands, at most i just guided yours :)



Thanks a lot RAV. :D
I hope it keeps going well.

Just to complement my answer to molom.
The usual things that make e17 installs unstable (and people associated that with e17):
-Installations that implement all e17 (broken and proto apps are identify with e17)

-Implementations that installs e17 on main /usr, mixed with system (even if it works it's hard to remove/clean without mess)

-Mixing of repos/methods (mixing install paths, that links apps against incorrect libs).

-User don't know/forget that API changes and that artwork it's compiled, so a plain bad/broken theme can destroy they conf. (usually a clean configuration solve it, but sometimes ranting it's the chosen root :()

-Bad implementations of non-e apps (panels that refuse to close when asked, apps that update outputs on systray but don't update they main title so can't be used simply minimized, weird implementations with daemons...)

Rui Thanks for the in depth follow up.
I hope you and your loved one have a very happy V-Day.
;)

RAV

[molom]

@ Rui Pais & RAV TUX
Thanks for the info, I appreciate it a lot.

Cheers,
molom

[RAV TUX]

@ Rui Pais & RAV TUX
Thanks for the info, I appreciate it a lot.

Cheers,
molomGood Welcome.

Admittedly this poll may be flawed since gOS will change to a Gnome base and abandon e17.

[molom]

Is gOS changing to gnome? I heard they are changing their cloudbook gOS to the gnome DE, but are they switching their desktop OS to gnome? If so, I guess they are leaving e17 and trashing gOS 2.0 rocket. They are making a mistake because they are trying to achieve a fast system with low specs and gnome doesn't provide that. They should atleast use XFCE.

[RAV TUX]

Is gOS changing to gnome? I heard they are changing their cloudbook gOS to the gnome DE, but are they switching their desktop OS to gnome? If so, I guess they are leaving e17 and trashing gOS 2.0 rocket. They are making a mistake because they are trying to achieve a fast system with low specs and gnome doesn't provide that. They should atleast use XFCE.gOS is changing to Gnome, admittedly it is a bit misguided but the decision is in the hands of Everex and not the gOS Devs...

Refer to the following thread for more discourse:

gOS will change to a Gnome base and abandon e17 (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=697353)

...and click the links for more in depth conversation, especially the CafeLinux Forum link.

[molom]

@RAV
Ohh well... I didn't like gOS the most out of all the e17 distros. I found Geubuntu pretty decent, but I'm sure OpenGEU is even better. I can't wait to try OZOS and Maryan Linux.

I'm also really eager to try elive 2.0 when its released. That elive developer sure knows how to code, I can't believe he made elive 1.0 all by himself even though it had some major flaws, Do you know whether his epanel is GPL? If it is GPL I could find a way to use the code and improve it or modify it somehow. I found some real potential in it because its just one app that controls all and its fast because it uses the e17 libraries.

Cheers,
molom

[RAV TUX]

@RAV
Ohh well... I didn't like gOS the most out of all the e17 distros. I found Geubuntu pretty decent, but I'm sure OpenGEU is even better. I can't wait to try OZOS and Maryan Linux.

I'm also really eager to try elive 2.0 when its released. That elive developer sure knows how to code, I can't believe he made elive 1.0 all by himself even though it had some major flaws, Do you know whether his epanel is GPL? If it is GPL I could find a way to use the code and improve it or modify it somehow. I found some real potential in it because its just one app that controls all and its fast because it uses the e17 libraries.

Cheers,
molomElive is very, very nice. the ePanel should be GPL or BSD, just ask the Dev.

Keep in mind that e17 as a whole is released under a BSD License and not the GPL.

I have to agree that gOS was my most least favorite e17 distro, unfortunately they made e17 look bad.

[vishzilla]

I want to promote OzOS but with that distro it doesn't hurt of you already know your way around Enlightenment some.

Elive is a good distro configured nicely with a good selection of applications and menus but it uses a rather old and outdated build of E, so I cant recommend it.

gOS selection of apps is kind of weird.

OpenGEU is not a real E17 distro, to my knowledge is uses E as a WM over a Gnome setup.

Maryan Linux is unknown for now but I think that Maryan Linux will be quite good, we'll have to wait and check it out February 11th.

So my recommendations is OzOS but you'll have to use it for a while to get to know it or to wait for Maryan Linux.

/Cheers.

Thanks, I will try OzOS for sure.

[RAV TUX]

Thanks, I will try OzOS for sure.vishzilla, this is awesome, I am sure you will love OzOs.

[Rui Pais]

I use OzOS, I like it but I had to customize it quite hard and install some programs before I really enjoyed it. I hope that in the next version you and Rui will make a better selection of programs included and customize the iBar with them. But I really, really like OzOS.


I want to promote OzOS but with that distro it doesn't hurt of you already know your way around Enlightenment some.

Elive is a good distro configured nicely with a good selection of applications and menus but it uses a rather old and outdated build of E, so I cant recommend it.

gOS selection of apps is kind of weird.

OpenGEU is not a real E17 distro, to my knowledge is uses E as a WM over a Gnome setup.

Maryan Linux is unknown for now but I think that Maryan Linux will be quite good, we'll have to wait and check it out February 11th.

So my recommendations is OzOS but you'll have to use it for a while to get to know it or to wait for Maryan Linux.

/Cheers.

Thanks for your kind comments, Freddy.
I didn't wanted to make too much choices for default apps or personalize it to much and keep a large margin for users to choose what they prefer (instead of impose my preferences). I just put there the ones that almost any user use, browser, mail reader and file manager.
It's plain easy install apps, and that way it keeps a clean light distro that each person can personalize to it's own taste.


Thanks, I will try OzOS for sure.
Thankls for your interest. I hope you like it!
Please gives us your thoughts on it (like and dislikes) :)
Have fun