Close to 2010, could Linux made much easier ?

[frenchn00b]

Hello,
Mac os x is based on BSD, right, and nothing easier with my mac to install drivers.
I am not taking 1-2 hours to install a new device.

Concerning the video, the sort of transparencies work from the box.
Could Linux be painless with drivers and painless to install windows apps like games or others ?

( I can compile from code source, lucky, but that ' s also taking toooooooooo much time, and checking the dependencies ;.. long long and days are short ! :) ) :KS:KS

[aysiu]

I am not taking 1-2 hours to install a new device. I have Linux-compatible hardware and so spent all of 0 hours configuring my hardware with Ubuntu.

Could Linux be painless with drivers Yes, if the hardware manufacturers open their drivers, then the Linux devs can incorporate that information into the next kernel release. and painless to install windows apps like games or others ? Yes, if software companies start porting those Windows apps to Linux or making those applications open source.

I don't think you really understand why Mac OS X seems to work well with applications and drivers. It's quite the other way around--the applications and drivers work well with Mac OS X. Do you think if Microsoft stopped producing Microsoft Office for Mac that MS Office would continue to be produced for Mac, that somehow Mac would just magically be able to natively run Windows' MS Office? No, as a matter of fact, Apple knows Macs cannot run all Windows applications, which is why they created Parallels.

Or, as the Apple website (http://www.apple.com/getamac/windows.html) puts it: As Computerworld’s Scot Finnie points out, now you can forget about having “to choose either the Mac for its superior design or Windows for its wealth of available software.” That’s because “you can have both operating systems on the same computer — the best of both worlds.” Mac OS X and Windows XP or Windows Vista side by side. One great computer. Two operating systems. Many, many programs to run.

Talk about a win-win situation. Now you can take advantage of all the benefits of owning a Mac but still enjoy the convenience of starting up your Mac in Windows XP or Windows Vista and running a Windows-only game or productivity application when needed. Third-party software solutions such as VMware Fusion or Parallels Desktop for Mac help make it possible. [My emphasis added in bold]

[justin whitaker]

Hello,
Mac os x is based on BSD, right, and nothing easier with my mac to install drivers.
I am not taking 1-2 hours to install a new device.

The underlying OS is BSD/Mach from Nextstep...brought up to date of course.

The whole driver thing on OSX took 1000s of man hours and is proprietary. You can do something similar in PC-BSD using a PBI for Nividia, but even then, it's still not as easy.

Then again, what are you installing that you need to compile a driver?

Concerning the video, the sort of transparencies work from the box.
Could Linux be painless with drivers and painless to install windows apps like games or others ?

Ok, now you are mixing metaphors. The transparencies, etc., are handled by the desktop rendering platform...the video driver makes it display. So all that Quartz goodness, or Compiz wooblyness, has nothing to do with the drivers you are using. It should render if your drivers are correctly installed.

Apt-get is pretty painless, I find. The only time you would have to compile something is if you cannot find the application in the repositories for your distribution, or you are running a source distro.

( I can compile from code source, lucky, but that ' s also taking toooooooooo much time, and checking the dependencies ;.. long long and days are short ! :) ) :KS:KS

Yep, compiling can take time. It sucks, but you get optimized code for your system...so it's worth it.

[SunnyRabbiera]

Well already linux is easier then it was 10 years ago, believe me linux has made infinately more progress in one single year then OSX or windows has in 5 or 10.
Hey remember about six years ago Mac OS had compatibility issues, it was barely supported and was still a work in progress... Linux seems to be making the same sort of progress in a single year.

[bufsabre666]

Well already linux is easier then it was 10 years ago, believe me linux has made infinately more progress in one single year then OSX or windows has in 5 or 10.
Hey remember about six years ago Mac OS had compatibility issues, it was barely supported and was still a work in progress... Linux seems to be making the same sort of progress in a single year.

yeah you cant really compare linux progress to mac or windows, they just get left in the dust,

compare os x.4 to os x.5, os x.5 is nicer but their were alot of problems

and compare xp to vista, vista is a downgrade

granted those were more than a year apart but lets compare a year of linux

7.10 to 6.10 or ever 5.10, gutsy is so much better than the other versions, if you go back a play with old versions youll really notice the differnce

[SunnyRabbiera]

yeah you cant really compare linux progress to mac or windows, they just get left in the dust,

compare os x.4 to os x.5, os x.5 is nicer but their were alot of problems

and compare xp to vista, vista is a downgrade

granted those were more than a year apart but lets compare a year of linux

7.10 to 6.10 or ever 5.10, gutsy is so much better than the other versions, if you go back a play with old versions youll really notice the differnce

actually truth be told Gutsy is really not all that great for me...
In terms of stability Dapper and edgy were better for me, as both Feisty and Gutsy gave me many issues.

[forrestcupp]

Yes, if the hardware manufacturers open their drivers, then the Linux devs can incorporate that information into the next kernel release. Yes, if software companies start porting those Windows apps to Linux or making those applications open source.


Or even if they kept the drivers closed, but put just as much effort into making Linux drivers as they do Windows and Mac.

The reason everything works so well for Mac is because MacOS X can only be installed on Mac computers that has hardware that is already preconfigured to work flawlessly with the operating system. Like aysiu said, you can do that with Linux, too, and you won't have any problems at all. All you have to do is use hardware that is known to work well in Linux.

[bruce89]

The amount of hardware that OS X supports is very small, as only Apple hardware is ever going to be used (usually).