Any progress with The Sims?

[anjilslaire]

Hey everyone,

Has there been any progress getting the original The Sims games (not Sims 2) to run under Wine? All of the results in the Wine App DB look pretty grim. Just checking to see if anyone knows of any progress.
The wife asked me to install the originals on her new Dell 1420 laptop, so I'm just checking in for any pointers while I experiment.

Thanks!

[anjilslaire]

Update:
I've gotten The Sims installed successfully, input my cd key, etc. Everything seems OK installer-wise.
However, When I run it, either at 800x600 or 1024x768, I get the followin output. Note however, when run at 800x600, the scren goes momentarily black, then has something garbled on the splash screen before dumpin back to the desktop. Konsole output:

laire@sheeple:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Maxis/The Sims$ wine Sims.exe
fixme:spoolsv:serv_main (0 (nil))
err:advapi:service_get_status service protocol error - failed to read pipe r = 0 count = 0!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x34ee14,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:xrandr:X11DRV_XRandR_SetCurrentMode Cannot change screen BPP from 32 to 16
fixme:msg:pack_message msg 14 (WM_ERASEBKGND) not supported yet
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CreateSurface Trying to create a render target that isn't in the default pool
err:ddraw:PixelFormat_DD2WineD3D Unknown Pixelformat!
err:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_CreateNewSurface Unsupported / Unknown pixelformat
err:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_CreateSurface IDirectDrawImpl_CreateNewSurface failed with 88760091
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0xffffffff at address 0xffffffff (thread 0009), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0xffffffff in 32-bit code (0xffffffff).
Register dump:
CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b
EIP:ffffffff ESP:0034f9a4 EBP:0034fa38 EFLAGS:00010206( - 00 - RIP1)
EAX:0034facc EBX:0091d7a8 ECX:0034fc3c EDX:0034fa01
ESI:00000000 EDI:0034fa20
Stack dump:
0x0034f9a4: 0054e52d 0034facc 0091d828 0091d86c
0x0034f9b4: 0091d7a8 0000007c 00001007 00000258
0x0034f9c4: 00000320 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x0034f9d4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x0034f9e4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x0034f9f4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000020
Backtrace:
=>1 0xffffffff (0x0034fa38)
2 0x0054d944 in sims (+0x14d944) (0x0034fad8)
3 0x004beac1 in sims (+0xbeac1) (0x0034fc48)
4 0x004b3c12 in sims (+0xb3c12) (0x0034fdf8)
5 0x00574c38 in sims (+0x174c38) (0x0034fe10)
6 0x00537610 in sims (+0x137610) (0x005c186c)
7 0x00574bd7 in sims (+0x174bd7) (0x00574b38)
0xffffffff: -- no code accessible --
Modules:
Module Address Debug info Name (86 modules)
PE 3b0000- 3d5000 Deferred ijl10
PE 400000- 6b6000 Export sims
PE 60000000-600e0000 Deferred gimex
ELF 7b800000-7b925000 Deferred kernel32<elf>
\-PE 7b820000-7b925000 \ kernel32
ELF 7bc00000-7bca1000 Deferred ntdll<elf>
\-PE 7bc10000-7bca1000 \ ntdll
ELF 7bf00000-7bf03000 Deferred <wine-loader>
ELF 7d1d7000-7d2c7000 Deferred wined3d<elf>
\-PE 7d1f0000-7d2c7000 \ wined3d
ELF 7d2c7000-7d31b000 Deferred ddraw<elf>
\-PE 7d2d0000-7d31b000 \ ddraw
ELF 7d31b000-7d32f000 Deferred midimap<elf>
\-PE 7d320000-7d32f000 \ midimap
ELF 7d32f000-7d355000 Deferred msacm32<elf>
\-PE 7d340000-7d355000 \ msacm32
ELF 7d355000-7d390000 Deferred wineoss<elf>
\-PE 7d360000-7d390000 \ wineoss
ELF 7d428000-7d48d000 Deferred msvcrt<elf>
\-PE 7d440000-7d48d000 \ msvcrt
ELF 7d48d000-7d4b4000 Deferred msvfw32<elf>
\-PE 7d490000-7d4b4000 \ msvfw32
ELF 7d664000-7d67b000 Deferred msacm32<elf>
\-PE 7d670000-7d67b000 \ msacm32
ELF 7d694000-7d6c6000 Deferred uxtheme<elf>
\-PE 7d6a0000-7d6c6000 \ uxtheme
ELF 7d6c6000-7d6cf000 Deferred libxcursor.so.1
ELF 7d6cf000-7d6d4000 Deferred libxfixes.so.3
ELF 7d6d4000-7d6d7000 Deferred libxcomposite.so.1
ELF 7d6d7000-7d6df000 Deferred libxrender.so.1
ELF 7da92000-7da94000 Deferred libnvidia-tls.so.1
ELF 7da94000-7e42c000 Deferred libglcore.so.1
ELF 7e42c000-7e4c2000 Deferred libgl.so.1
ELF 7e4c2000-7e4c7000 Deferred libxdmcp.so.6
ELF 7e4c7000-7e4ca000 Deferred libxau.so.6
ELF 7e4ca000-7e5bb000 Deferred libx11.so.6
ELF 7e5bb000-7e5c9000 Deferred libxext.so.6
ELF 7e5c9000-7e5ce000 Deferred libxxf86vm.so.1
ELF 7e5ce000-7e5e6000 Deferred libice.so.6
ELF 7e5e6000-7e5ee000 Deferred libsm.so.6
ELF 7e5f0000-7e5f6000 Deferred libxrandr.so.2
ELF 7e606000-7e695000 Deferred winex11<elf>
\-PE 7e610000-7e695000 \ winex11
ELF 7e702000-7e722000 Deferred libexpat.so.1
ELF 7e722000-7e74d000 Deferred libfontconfig.so.1
ELF 7e74d000-7e762000 Deferred libz.so.1
ELF 7e762000-7e7d2000 Deferred libfreetype.so.6
ELF 7e7ea000-7e834000 Deferred dsound<elf>
\-PE 7e7f0000-7e834000 \ dsound
ELF 7e834000-7e851000 Deferred imm32<elf>
\-PE 7e840000-7e851000 \ imm32
ELF 7e851000-7e86a000 Deferred version<elf>
\-PE 7e860000-7e86a000 \ version
ELF 7e86a000-7e87d000 Deferred libresolv.so.2
ELF 7e881000-7e895000 Deferred lz32<elf>
\-PE 7e890000-7e895000 \ lz32
ELF 7e895000-7e8b3000 Deferred iphlpapi<elf>
\-PE 7e8a0000-7e8b3000 \ iphlpapi
ELF 7e8b3000-7e911000 Deferred rpcrt4<elf>
\-PE 7e8c0000-7e911000 \ rpcrt4
ELF 7e911000-7e9b0000 Deferred ole32<elf>
\-PE 7e920000-7e9b0000 \ ole32
ELF 7e9b0000-7ea3c000 Deferred winmm<elf>
\-PE 7e9c0000-7ea3c000 \ winmm
ELF 7ea3c000-7eafb000 Deferred comctl32<elf>
\-PE 7ea40000-7eafb000 \ comctl32
ELF 7eafb000-7eb52000 Deferred shlwapi<elf>
\-PE 7eb10000-7eb52000 \ shlwapi
ELF 7eb52000-7ec56000 Deferred shell32<elf>
\-PE 7eb60000-7ec56000 \ shell32
ELF 7ec56000-7eca0000 Deferred advapi32<elf>
\-PE 7ec60000-7eca0000 \ advapi32
ELF 7eca0000-7ed37000 Deferred gdi32<elf>
\-PE 7ecb0000-7ed37000 \ gdi32
ELF 7ed37000-7ee6e000 Deferred user32<elf>
\-PE 7ed50000-7ee6e000 \ user32
ELF 7ef8d000-7ef98000 Deferred libnss_files.so.2
ELF 7ef98000-7efa2000 Deferred libnss_nis.so.2
ELF 7efa2000-7efba000 Deferred libnsl.so.1
ELF 7efba000-7efc3000 Deferred libnss_compat.so.2
ELF 7efc3000-7efe8000 Deferred libm.so.6
ELF b7cb4000-b7cb8000 Deferred libdl.so.2
ELF b7cb8000-b7e02000 Deferred libc.so.6
ELF b7e02000-b7e1a000 Deferred libpthread.so.0
ELF b7e32000-b7f46000 Deferred libwine.so.1
ELF b7f48000-b7f64000 Deferred ld-linux.so.2
Threads:
process tid prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000008 (D) C:\Program Files\Maxis\The Sims\Sims.exe
00000009 0 <==
0000000a
0000000b 0
00000010
00000012 0
00000011 0
Backtrace:
=>1 0xffffffff (0x0034fa38)
2 0x0054d944 in sims (+0x14d944) (0x0034fad8)
3 0x004beac1 in sims (+0xbeac1) (0x0034fc48)
4 0x004b3c12 in sims (+0xb3c12) (0x0034fdf8)
5 0x00574c38 in sims (+0x174c38) (0x0034fe10)
6 0x00537610 in sims (+0x137610) (0x005c186c)
7 0x00574bd7 in sims (+0x174bd7) (0x00574b38)
fixme:msg:pack_message msg 14 (WM_ERASEBKGND) not supported yet
fixme:msg:pack_message msg 14 (WM_ERASEBKGND) not supported yet
laire@sheeple:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Maxis/The Sims$

Any thoughts? Running Kubuntu Gutsy, Wine 0.9.54, Nvidia 6600GT with Nvidia drivers, etc

[Vadi]

I think you're better off with the wine wizards now.

[anjilslaire]

I think you're better off with the wine wizards now.

If you mean being posted here in the Wine forum, you may be right. It looks like Artificial Intelligence moved my thread here after posting in the games forum.

[Vadi]

No, I meant on the official winehq.org website :/

[Faud]

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1015

BUT, I have heard of people actually getting it to work, they did some heavy tweaking though. I would google it. You arent going to get a straight install that I know of.

[anjilslaire]

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1015

BUT, I have heard of people actually getting it to work, they did some heavy tweaking though. I would google it. You arent going to get a straight install that I know of.
Yes, I've been reading through the wine db, that's how I got as far as I have so far.

[piousp]

I'm stuck there too, but using Kubuntu Hardy with Wine 1.0

:(

[h4mx0r]

Wow I thought the sims 1 was working already greatly with wine. I also thought sims 2 was close to being playable too by now. Strange I must have viewed some other wine review of it elsewhere. Have you checked with the playonlinux people or the winehq irc? Perhaps some wine blogs?

[h4mx0r]

I did some poking and found this exerpt in the sims wiki:

"The Sims and all its expansion packs were ported to the Mac by Aspyr Media, Inc..
The Sims was ported to Linux using Transgaming's WineX technology (now known as Cedega) and was bundled with Mandrake Linux Gaming Edition. However, both WineX and the Cedega engine are unable to run the Windows version of the game. The original port will no longer run on modern Linux distributions and is unable to accept the various add-on packs intended for the Windows version."

Mandrake distro was later named Mandriva and I found this post on their forum http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=35720

So I guess you need to rip out the anti debugger codes to get it to run/run better. Anyway best of luck bet they the same people whom wrote the Spore game's drm.