Remove Gnome and gnome apps, replace with KDE+kde apps

[dynamethod]

Is this possible? i would like to remove everything gnome related, and replace with the KDE DE, but have the included kde apps etc, preferably KDE4 stable, i tried installing KDE4(via ubuntugeek guide) but the KDE DE had no apps! and gnome session got all mixed up with kde apps as well, so yeah just wondering if possible

i was thinking sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but then i want to remove gnome completely, and sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop doesnt work cause apparently its not installed, however im using it lol?

[cybertron3000]

This is a really good Q - wish I knew but I'm on week one of my Ubuntu experience (which is great). I'd like to know how too...:confused:

[JoshuaRL]

Well, the easy way won't give you KDE4, but it will be stable.


sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop


That will give you the KDE desktop and all the apps that comes with it. It's a metapackage, so it will download a lot others. This will take a while.

Also, I found this if you just want KDE4 Stable:

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-kde-40-stable-in-ubuntu-gutsy.html

[rosegarden78]

United we stand divided we fall. First install Ubuntu then add the KDE and XFCE packages. On login select XFCE session at Startup right click mouse select Settings - Autostarted Programs & add new item and type "nautilus" - if you don't like what you see switch back to GNOME or KDE session.

[dynamethod]

Yeah going to install the kubuntu-desktop, but after doing so, if i uninstall the ubuntu-desktop(gnome i take it?) will that rid all the gnome apps so i got a pure KDE DE?, i dont have much diskspace and only want KDE, not gnome

[dynamethod]

I was going to reinstall with Kubuntu 7.10 but omfg wireless support is absolutly shocking for kubuntu, doesnt even pick up the WEP network lmao!

[JoshuaRL]

Yeah I believe that will. However, you may loose support for Gnome apps so be careful. What kind of disk space are we talking about?

[dynamethod]

about 30 gigs, but 6 gigs used up atm, so about 24 gigs left (im a poor student dont laugh)

[JoshuaRL]

Nah, that's only about 10gb less than I have on my biggest laptop.

Honestly, you should probably just keep Gnome. That way you'll be more likely to have support for Gnome apps, like the wireless ones.

[dynamethod]

Yeah true, sad really cause KDE4 looks soo sexy

[JoshuaRL]

No, I mean you can have your Kake and eat it too (I just made that up :p) Do what you were going to, but then just leave ubuntu-desktop on. That way you keep that functionality.

[GavinZac]

If you really want to, the quickest way would be to install ubuntu-desktop so you have the full set of gnome apps with one package, then uninstall it again, to remove them all, then install kde-desktop.

alternatively, install kubuntu

[rosegarden78]

A clean install of Xubuntu 7.10 should do the trick. Then at the terminal type:

sudo aptitude install nautilus

Then you train your furry friend by installing your required programs.

Right click the mouse and select Settings - Autostarted Programs and add nautilus
Right click your launcher and add XFCE Menu.
Press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace to logout X server
Log back in to X server

You should be running Nautilus on XFCE with a custom launcher.
Now sudo aptitude your other required programs.
Maybe install some .deb packages

Click Xfce Menu - Settings - Sessions and Startup to enable GNOME and KDE support.

[JoshuaRL]

I think he wants KDE. So it would be your "geary friend"?

[dynamethod]

If you really want to, the quickest way would be to install ubuntu-desktop so you have the full set of gnome apps with one package, then uninstall it again, to remove them all, then install kde-desktop.

alternatively, install kubuntu

Yeah thats the thing, im on a wireless network, and kubuntu live cd just doesnt pick up the network(i tried Wep 64bit still didnt work and i cant turn encryption off for 2 seconds or i end up with a massive bill) kubuntu wireless support = no good

[rosegarden78]

Nice one! Yes kde with xfce together make a furry gearhead. I just use all three login with Xfce and run Nautilus.

EDIT: Update I use Ubuntu GG with Compiz and Avant window manager on an Xfce desktop.

[thelatinist]

Removing ubuntu-desktop will not remove your Gnome apps. Ubuntu-desktop is an empty package that makes all the default Ubuntu apps dependencies. Therefore installing it causes the installation of all those dependencies, but uninstalling it will not remove them.

You will have to uninstall all the Gnome apps you don't want manually using your favorite package manager. You can, I am sure, find a list of packages included in Ubuntu that aren't included in Kubuntu to use as a guide.

[JoshuaRL]

Oh, he's right. Now that I hear the truth I recognise it. You would go to ubuntupackages.com and look for ubuntu-desktop. It will have a list of all the apps.