Long Ubuntu 5.10 Preview/Review

[poofyhairguy]

This is pretty interesting. Some of it is kinda funny, but at least it tells you how to get the new Clearlooks theme to work. Worth a read for future Breezy users:

http://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5145&page=1

[kleeman]

The flash movie of installation is very nice IMHO.

[jyank]

Pretty good review. Nice to see someone who previously wasn't impressed with Ubuntu give it another shot and enjoy it.

[Kapre]

Finally!! This is long awaited review that I'd like to see. Good read for the newbies and new converts.

K

[twigsby]

Bah, installing the cairo-clearlooks didn't work for me.

[floppy]

Have to say he seemed to like it! I can't wait to see the final release myself.

This is totally off-topic, but how did they capture the Flash stuff?

[drizek]

Pretty good review. Nice to see someone who previously wasn't impressed with Ubuntu give it another shot and enjoy it.

*points at self*

i hated ubuntu at first. it was terrible at detecting my hardware and i was kinda pissed off at it for being so popular based on nothing more than the "philosophical ********". it really wasnt anything too revolutionary at the time warty was around. it still isnt, its just the only decent debian distro with x.org and kde 3.4. its really not that ubuntu is so good, its just that all the other debians are so bad. but over time it has improved quite a bit, and it is based on good intentions, which is a great thing. i remember from that speech shuttleworth was doing, he mentioned something about him making more money in a day than all hte major distros combined made in a year, and he really didnt want to profit from ubuntu.

and of course, the community is probably hte most important thing about a linux distro, which is something ubuntu is very good at.

Edit: flash=vmware

[floppy]

Edit: flash=vmware

ah!

[Goober]

Darn it, now I want to get 5.10 even more! It looks like a significant improvement.

Of course, with my spare time, I shall need to do it all at once, with the official stable version, not some unstable version. But I can wait.

[Ubunted]

Darn it, now I want to get 5.10 even more! It looks like a significant improvement.

Of course, with my spare time, I shall need to do it all at once, with the official stable version, not some unstable version. But I can wait.

Yanked the words right out of my mouth.

Must... have... stable! Need... to ditch... reiser!

[GoA]

Bah, installing the cairo-clearlooks didn't work for me.

What problems did you have? I've noticed that there were few mistakes in the directions. First I had to install also CVS, automake, autoconf and libtool.

After I had downloaded the files I typed:

./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr

After that run through without errors I typed:

make

and after that:

sudo make install

I'm currently at work and did this through vnc so I haven't been able to choose the theme and restart computer, so I don't know that does it work. But at least I was able to compile it without erros.

Hope this helps if that was the problem. :)

[Wesley]

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[Brunellus]

The review may be positive, but it damns with faint praise.

[mike998]

The review may be positive, but it damns with faint praise.

I was thinking the same thing.
He seems to spend an inordinate amount of time whining about the naming schemes that Ubuntu uses (Debian Woody/Potatoe/SID anyone?) and doesn't really have much of substance in three pages of a review.

I'd like to see a better review than this, whether it's good or bad, just tell us it's good or bad, don't complain for three pages then give it a 9 out of 10.

[weeguy]

Agreed. Frankly, by reading through the review, I wouldn't have thought that his eventual score for Breezy was a 9.

[poofyhairguy]

Agreed. Frankly, by reading through the review, I wouldn't have thought that his eventual score for Breezy was a 9.

Most of the complaints are about the name, not the distro....:)

[Brunellus]

Most of the complaints are about the name, not the distro....:)
Yeah, but because the rating comes at the end, a reader skimming through the text of the article sees nothing but complaints....and then a 9/10 rating. I don't care about his technical qualifications, but he's a terrible review-writer. If he hated it, he should have put a negative rating; if he didn't actually find it so disagreeable, he should have edited the article differently.

[benplaut]

good review, i think the guy has a grudge against us, but gave it a fair grade :)

BTW. ubuntu's been getting a red arrow on distrowatch these days :-x

[Sliced]

Most of the complaints are about the name, not the distro....:) And I agree with him on that point. "Dapper Drake" isn't something you acquaint with an OS.

[Brunellus]

And I agree with him on that point. "Dapper Drake" isn't something you acquaint with an OS.
They're codenames....so in the spirit of code-naming, they can be rather goofy.

"Mulberry" was a stupid name for a system of concrete breakwaters and artificial harbours meant to be installed on the Normandy coast as a part of the Overlord (another codename!) invasion of 1944. By most accounts, Mulberry worked quite well, in that a) the harbours got built; and, b) the Germans didn't have the foggiest about what "Mulberry" was.

(and yes, I know that Mulberry is also the name of an email client..)

[GoA]

Clearlooks-cairo looks good. :) And works smoothly.

[Artificial Intelligence]

good review, i think the guy has a grudge against us, but gave it a fair grade :)

BTW. ubuntu's been getting a red arrow on distrowatch these days :-x

A red arrow? :confused:

Edit: Ahhh! I see what you mean, oh well.

Edit: Edit: I guess it will turn when Breezy is official released.

[golfie]

when running ./configure I get this error message:

checking for GTK... configure: error: GTK+-2.7 or newer is required to compile clearlooks-cairo.

Hmm I think the current verion of ubuntu is 2.8.4? Can anyone explain this error message?

[Artificial Intelligence]

Didi you install libgtk2.0-dev? You need that to compile clearlooks-cairo.

[graabein]

Clearlooks-cairo looks good. :) And works smoothly.

How about following that statement with a screenshot? My machine is down and anyway I think I'll wait with the upgrade until the release in October.

:D

On topic: I don't really mind the noise about nameing schemes and default theme... There will always be differing opinions on this. I reckon Breezy will be good enough in itself to draw more people to it...

[darkmatter]

That was an excellent review. Nice to see that we're not the only ones suffering from delusions about how SOLID Ubuntu is...:D

[golfie]

Indeed that was the problem... I looked it up in aptitude and it was not installed.