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TheOrangePeanut
January 8th, 2008, 09:35 PM
Both installations are vanilla, except I've installed some codec packages on the Mint installation. The point is that the Windows installation is completely fresh except for updates... that sucks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/TheOrangePeanut/Screenshot-1.png

Ocxic
January 8th, 2008, 09:39 PM
that's bloat ware for ya

mikewhatever
January 8th, 2008, 09:41 PM
Is that Vista, cause in my experience, XP takes about 4 times less space. I also thought Linux Mint was famed for having codecs preinstalled. Was that not so? Those codecs must have been pretty big, cause a regular Ubuntu installation is way under 3 GB.

TheOrangePeanut
January 8th, 2008, 09:44 PM
That is Windows XP Professional with all of the required (security) updates and ATI video drivers. No .NET or any optional updates. And yea, I shouldn't have said codecs for installation on Mint. I did install some additional gstreamer codecs because Sound Converter didn't see them at first, and I also installed build-essential and the java JDK because I'm a programmer. But those installations even further my point.

macogw
January 9th, 2008, 12:25 AM
No way....I ran Windows XP on a computer that only has a 5GB hard drive for years. It runs Debian now, but I know XP isn't that big.

TheOrangePeanut
January 9th, 2008, 12:53 AM
How long ago were you running XP? The only thing installed is Ati video drivers, my motherboard chipset drivers (network, audio), and SP2 + whatever other security updates were released since then. It's XP Pro if that makes a difference, I'm not sure if it is any bigger than Home but I can't imagine it being so.

Edit: Take a look

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/TheOrangePeanut/windows.jpg

bufsabre666
January 9th, 2008, 01:07 AM
my vista x64 install was 6gb before i added stuff and my xp was only like 2gb

Meep3D
January 9th, 2008, 01:12 AM
Those numbers definitely look screwy. How much RAM do you have? Windows creates a pagefile of ~150% of your memory and a pre allocates a hibernation file of the same size as your RAM.

Do you not also have a separate swap partition on your Linux install that you are not counting?

TheOrangePeanut
January 9th, 2008, 01:29 AM
Yes, the Linux partition is technically 800 MB bigger than Nautilus shows because of the swap partition, but Linux is still taking up much less space. I don't see how it is screwy; as I said, the Windows install is FRESH (as in, I did it 2 or maybe 3 days ago and haven't installed anything onto it).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/TheOrangePeanut/gparted.png

quanumphaze
January 9th, 2008, 03:29 AM
This is definitely not normal. My laptop originally used less than that with OEM bloatware and all. Now it takes up 10.5 GB after I went uninstall crazy in November.

Try using the Disk Usage Analyzer to find what is taking up that space.

hyper_ch
January 9th, 2008, 03:49 AM
why do you still compare to XP? XP is already 7 years old... Vista and Gutsy are from last year. So if compared it should be them and VISTA is totally bloated.

capink
January 9th, 2008, 09:36 AM
Also don't forget excluding restore points and and any personal files might have in "Documents and Settings".

I have my windows xp sp2 partition mounted under linux on /c. I use the following command to determine how space much xp takes.

du --apparent-size -csh /c --exclude=Recycled --exclude="System Volume Information" --exclude="Documents and Settings" --exclude=pagefile.sys

On my computer it takes 5.3G. But it is not fresh installation as it has some programs and dirvers installed.

I excluded "Documents and Settings" since in a fresh install it does not take a lot of space.