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maybeway36
December 21st, 2007, 05:47 PM
Since Debian does not find Red Hat's GPL+exception license acceptable, Red Hat should just make these fonts available either under that or the regular GPL. This would satisfy Debian (via the GPL) and not take the right to embed freely away (via the GPL+exception).

wolfen69
December 28th, 2007, 01:56 AM
isnt it opensuse that uses these fonts also? anyway, i remember they were probably the best "out of box" fonts i have ever seen.

wolfen69
December 28th, 2007, 02:23 AM
here https://www.redhat.com/f/fonts/liberation-fonts-ttf-3.tar.gz are the liberation fonts. just unpack the tar.gz file and place the folder in /usr/share/fonts/truetype

asimon
December 29th, 2007, 08:22 AM
Since Debian does not find Red Hat's GPL+exception license acceptable, Red Hat should just make these fonts available either under that or the regular GPL.
Absolutely not! Pure GPL for fonts, do you know what that means?

If a font is pure GPL, that means that the font can only be embedded in a document if that document is also licensed under the GPL. We don't want this for fonts, do we? So at least one of the 2 exceptions Red Hat put into the license is needed.

I don't think that the license for the Liberation fonts is a problem at all, more the very strickt policy of Debian, which often gets in the way of the pagmatic user (graphics drivers, firmware, etc.).

But anyway, this is no reason why Ubuntu should not be able to include the fonts. There is a bug open about this in launchpad which is marked as 'in progress'.

maybeway36
December 29th, 2007, 01:25 PM
That was not my point. My point was that the font should stay under the license it is under now and be released as GPL in addition to that.
I really hope Ubuntu adds these in Hardy because without Debian doing them, there are about a thousand third-party ttf-liberation packages on the internet now.