It's Time to Support your Ubuntu! Vote Now!

[ronniew]

I have grown very tired of PCLinuxOS and there terrible tatics of telling all their user to click on their link on Distrowatch.com in order to try and make their linux distro appear better than Ubuntu.

They have even written articles that try to disguise themselves as unbiased reviews painting Ubuntu in an unpleasant light.

Its time to rise up and let PCLinuxOS see how many Ubuntu users there are and how many happy Ubuntu users there are.

I'm tired of the PCLinuxOS FUD..

In my opinion no better than M$

So if you love your Ubuntu and you hate FUD..

get over to Distrowatch.com and click on the Ubuntu link on the right hand side.

Thanks
Ubuntu Forever.

[MrFSL]

... and stoop to their level?

Who cares about Distrowatch anyhow? Ubuntu will stand on it's merits alone. Just as Debian did before it - regardless of the hipe!

[Shay Stephens]

I agree, stooping to that level is not going to do anything beneficial long term. No one I know in meat-space goes to distrowatch, and I don't go there either. My support for Ubuntu is in the form of recommending it to friends and family and helping them set it up and administer it.

[rfruth]

I love Ubuntu but putting down PCLinuxOS FUD won't do any good IMO

[ronniew]

Its not about what "WE" think or our linux familiar buddies its about those who don't know any better who are trying to discover linux for the first time.

Most people who are curious about linux and are doing queries are going to stumble upon distrowatch in their early searches.

Its about the newbies the ones who have had enough M$ and looking for an alternative.

Don't you want them to have the best possible first impression.

The best possible chance of staying with linux.

This IS about what we already know. We know that PCLinuxOS can not give them what Ubuntu can. Which is not just about a great, stable, feature rich OS. But very much about support.

I want new linux users to be able to find support for their OS which will help them stay with linux.

They can't get that with PCLinuxOS and we all know it.

Little to no support for most people will become frustrating and end up with a bad experience with linux and probably won't return anytime soon if ever.

Look beyond what you think is the noble thing to do and look at the real world picture.

We need to help ensure that linux has the best chance it can with new users.

Just like our children are our future..

Newbies are as well OUR future.

PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT

[Shay Stephens]

But Ubuntu might not be the best for them.

Here is how I came to Ubuntu. I had previous experience with Redhat 6.2. I wanted to try Linux again seeing as how I did not want to have anything to do with Vista. So I downloaded the latest fedora. It didn't work for me. So I started searching for other distros. I tried a few with similar failure. I read about Ubuntu being good for beginners, so I gave it a shot (Breezy).

Breezy was the first distro that worked for me in what I wanted to do. It continues to work for me, I like the community behind it (not crazy zealots) and I like the companies goals and plans. I can't say that about any other distro, and so Ubuntu is the one I support and recommend. I didn't find Ubuntu through gaming of distrowatch or other underhanded tactics. I found it via recommendations from real people. I stuck with it because it worked for me.

You won't get that doing what you propose, you will just be encouraging more crazy zealotry. Ubuntu does not need tricks to make it successful and popular. What it needs is honest and helpful users.

[Wiebelhaus]

This is stupid and should be deleted.

[lyndaj70]

Goodness, I haven't been to DistroWatch in AGES!

I check it out once in a blue moon to see if there are any new distros I may want to play with, but I don't waste my time with that voting crap. Linux is like coffee, everyone has their preferred flavor, and some of us like a lot of different flavors...

~L

[MrFSL]

People are curious about Linux because they hear about it or read about it. A well built, stable, and PROFESSIONAL distro will be spoken and written about more. Then, regardless of numbers on Distrowatch, people will gravitate toward the known best.

Furthermore, at that point if Distrowatch does not reflect the truth then it won't ever be taken serious again.

[ronniew]

Ok I guess I am wrong.

I suppose we do exactly what Apple, Commadore, Atari, BetaMax, and any other self righteous technology oriented organization has done in the past and come to the conclusion that we do not live in the real world.

That because our stuff is better everything will work out.

LOL

And don't you dare say Apple doesn't belong on that list because if it weren't for the return of Steve Jobs Apple would have been driven out of business years ago for that exact same mentality you are all proposing in this thread.

Incredibly naive does not begin to describe they level of "real world" ignorance some of these responses state.

I am currently working for a very large company that probably supplies the very internet your on and the channel your watching and for some of you the phone your talking on and I can tell you that the general public needs all the help it can get.

We should not be so quick to say helping them is beneath us.

Or that Ubuntu is so good that it doesn't need support.

Most people want to think they made a decision on their own.

Lets help them make the right one.

[lyndaj70]

We do help Ubuntu...

We are here helping people, and getting help ourselves. We're all here hoping to make Ubuntu better.

This is MY way of giving back...

I have always done the research, but this is the first distro I have ever felt obligated to help, so I surf these posts trying to help others out. I may not be perfect, but it's my contribution.

Others here feel the same way....

Yes folks go to distrowatch to learn about Linux. They try it, and hate it or no, if they catch the bug they will try more than one. If they don't catch the bug, if they don't like what they see or they're not ready, they will move on. A vote, a hundred votes, is not going to change that. Everyone who's been with Linux for a time has tried more than one distro.... I know I definitely have....

So don't yell and say we're selfish for not wanting to go vote on some website. We show our allegiance by being here doing what we can...
~L

[santiagoward2000]

Does someone really pay attention to it? Really, I haven't seen distrowatch for a very long time (although I just did because of this thread :lolflag: ).

[MrFSL]

@ronniew
Incredibly naive does not begin to describe they level of "real world" ignorance some of these responses state.
You're out of line. The only ignorant person here seems to be you. Ignorant to what Open Source and Linux means to others in the community to be precise. Apple and Micro are and have been competitors. I good amount of Linux users don't feel like we are, nor need to compete.

Linux is actually quite anti-competitive in many ways. By releasing their products for free and allowing others to modify, improve, gain and build on the work is actually the antithesis of competition is the traditional sense. It's about community not competition (to me at least). And like all societies and communities. If the society works together for the good of the society it's bound to grow just fine without needing to wage war against anyone else or to expound their greatness.

Take it easy on the generalities. It only shows your own ignorance.

EDIT: Lastly, I am tired of people expounding about the size of the company they work for. I work for a huge company too, and they hire tons or morons! The larger the company the more likely that bad employees can sift through the cracks (if for the need of just numbers to support a large company in any geographical area!!) The company you work for has nothing to do with anything. Even big companies can make bad decisions when hiring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[ronniew]

LOLOLOLOL

OMG

I can't believe you even wrote this and you were fine with it

"Apple and Micro are and have been competitors. I good amount of Linux users don't feel like we are, nor need to compete."



NOR NEED TO COMPETE <----- holy cow are you for real


My god that is exactly what keeps linux from becoming a main stream desktop.

wow i am speechless after that

[reset3x]

:rolleyes:

[tyler22]

Goodness, I haven't been to DistroWatch in AGES!

I check it out once in a blue moon to see if there are any new distros I may want to play with, but I don't waste my time with that voting crap. Linux is like coffee, everyone has their preferred flavor, and some of us like a lot of different flavors...

~L

very fitting, hahaha

[k33bz]

I agree, stooping to that level is not going to do anything beneficial long term. No one I know in meat-space goes to distrowatch, and I don't go there either. My support for Ubuntu is in the form of recommending it to friends and family and helping them set it up and administer it.

I agree totally with this, Ubuntu will stand on its own by spreading word and recommending it to others, especially those migrating from Windoze.

However, I do go to distrowatch, not to see what others think of whats good and whats bad. Rather to see what is new, and what is being worked on.

[Shay Stephens]

However, I do go to distrowatch, not to see what others think of whats good and whats bad. Rather to see what is new, and what is being worked on.

Yes, I don't want to imply that it is wrong to go to distrowatch. Not at all. I just don't know anyone personally that do. It never factored into my discovery of Ubuntu either.

[American_Outcast]

People are curious about Linux because they hear about it or read about it. A well built, stable, and PROFESSIONAL distro will be spoken and written about more. Then, regardless of numbers on Distrowatch, people will gravitate toward the known best.

Furthermore, at that point if Distrowatch does not reflect the truth then it won't ever be taken serious again.

When I was new to Distrowatch I use to put a lot in the numbers. I don't any more. I don't see them as being accurate. There are to many variables that are not taken into account.

For example...... How many of us click on the link at Distrowatch to download the latest version of Ubuntu? I don't. I go to the Ubuntu main website and to the mirror list from there. (same goes for people that use Mandriva, Fedora, OpenSuse, Freespire, etc.) We don't go to Distrowatch just so we can go to our favorite websites to download iso's, etc. We already know the links or have them bookmarked.

What about Gentoo? Many don't download it at all and some of us, like I did a couple of days ago, just typed in Gentoo at google and then downloaded the bittorrent file for the DvD x86_64 iso.

The list goes on and on and on.

Distrowatch is good for the articles and the general lists of Linux OS's and packages, but I don't see it at all as a good source of what distro is more popular then others.

Now new people checking out Linux are going to go for the top ten, maybe the top 5. This doesn't mean they actually like them or that they downloaded them. They are just trying to sort through a huge number of different distro's and the top ten makes it sound like those top ten are the best of the best, which is not necessarily true.

[Wiebelhaus]

When I was new to Distrowatch I use to put a lot in the numbers. I don't any more. I don't see them as being accurate. There are to many variables that are not taken into account.

For example...... How many of us click on the link at Distrowatch to download the latest version of Ubuntu? I don't. I go to the Ubuntu main website and to the mirror list from there. (same goes for people that use Mandriva, Fedora, OpenSuse, Freespire, etc.) We don't go to Distrowatch just so we can go to our favorite websites to download iso's, etc. We already know the links or have them bookmarked.

What about Gentoo? Many don't download it at all and some of us, like I did a couple of days ago, just typed in Gentoo at google and then downloaded the bittorrent file for the DvD x86_64 iso.

The list goes on and on and on.

Distrowatch is good for the articles and the general lists of Linux OS's and packages, but I don't see it at all as a good source of what distro is more popular then others.

Now new people checking out Linux are going to go for the top ten, maybe the top 5. This doesn't mean they actually like them or that they downloaded them. They are just trying to sort through a huge number of different distro's and the top ten makes it sound like those top ten are the best of the best, which is not necessarily true.

As always I agree with American_Outcast Also I'd like to point out that the people at PCLOS are great people with a great drake-centric distribution that certainly holds it's own and they deserve all the recognition and praise they get.