I just bought a brand new gOS(e17) "Green" computer from Walmart Online!

[RAV TUX]

I was responding to post in another thread but I thought I would start a new post for the first purchase from a ubuntuforums.org member of a gOS "Green" computer:

Sspecifically the:
Everex TC2502 Green gPC w/ Via C7-D Processor

Item Description

This exceptional value is built around a Via Technologies processor designed for low power consumption. It runs on the gOS operating system and features the OpenOffice.org 2.2 software suite that gives users the ability to create word processing documents, spreadsheets, presentations, graphics, databases and more. Additional highlights include a DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive, Ethernet port and stereo speakers.

Key Features & Benefits:

1.5 GHz Via Technologies C7-D processor

Delivers energy-saving performance

512 MB of DDR2 system memory

Offers good performance and is expandable to 2 GB

80 GB hard disk drive

Provides space for documents, games, photos and music

DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive

Lets you play DVDs and burn your own CDs for entertainment and data backup

10/100 Mbps Ethernet

Connects to a local area network or broadband Internet devices

gOS operating system

Enables you to use the supplied OpenOffice.org 2.2 software suite


Specifications (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=7754614)

Hard Drive Size:
80 GB
System RAM:
512 MB
Operating System:
gOS
Model No.:
TC2502
Shipping Weight (in pounds):
21.0
Product in Inches (L x W x H):
23.0 x 23.0 x 11.4
Assembled in Country of Origin:
USA and/or Imported
Origin of Components:
USA and/or Imported
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=7754614#Accessories+to+Buy

It comes with an Ubuntu build with E17 as default, and RAV TUX isn't here wetting himself over the news yet. XD

It looks very nice. I'd get one just to use as a spare machine. Well, if I had the money, that is. Anyone know if "gOS" is downloadable anywhere? I'm wanting to try it out in VMWare.

Rav Tux will love it! It runs E-17

Actually I am buying one online for my parents right now!!

I have an old computer with PC-BSD on it that I was going to send them but this is priced less then it would cost me to ship it to them from DC to Portland, Oregon.

The fact that they have included a Ubuntu version of e17 on the OS is pure genius and a true sign that e17 is the future of Linux.

Canonical really needs to adopt e17 as an official distro release and help in the e17 development.

My parents will love it!

They should receive it next week...I will keep everyone posted.

[Paul820]

You will have to tell how well it performs. For that price though i think you got a great bargain. :)

[RAV TUX]

You will have to tell how well it performs. For that price though i think you got a great bargain. :)It will be my parents very first computer, and it beats the old computer I was going to send them.

I am very, very excited!

[n3tfury]

e17 the future of linux? oh.

[andrewpmk]

The first thing I would do when buying such a computer is installing vanilla Ubuntu 7.10.

[jimrz]

what took you so long ... it's been available almost all day ;)

[Dimitriid]

e17 the future of linux? oh.

There's been odd choices for really cheap systems with linux in the past. A Mexican store chain used to sell really slow systems with Lindows ( back before they went to call themselves Lindspire ).

[loell]

Everex launches $198 Ubuntu Linux gPC at Wal-Mart (http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7114714037.html)

update us, how did it go?


and i'm wondering if the e guys knows about this :)

[Tux Aubrey]

update us, how did it go?

Wow -25 minutes between the first post about ordering and a request for a review. You must have some spectacular delivery services in the States! This would take at least 24hrs in Australia. We are so behind you guys.

[loell]

Wow -25 minutes between the first post about ordering and a request for a review. You must have some spectacular delivery services in the States! This would take at least 24hrs in Australia. We are so behind you guys.

:lolflag: I don't know about you guys, or the dilevery speed in the States, I thought, it was just 10 minutes in our place :) j/k

oh I forgot, i'm talking about the delivery time , of the take out from the fast food two blocks from my place :mrgreen:

[Frak]

I'm totally buying one, I feel good supporting the cause.

[kopinux]

the computer looks great match it up with an lcd monitor. i also like the OS, im looking it up maybe i could try the GOS.

[D-EJ915]

Those C7 procs aren't near lightning fast, guess it could be alright though, probably slower than my pentium-m laptop though.

[RAV TUX]

The first thing I would do when buying such a computer is installing vanilla Ubuntu 7.10.

I may not be able to see my parents until next year, so they will have to do with gOS. Again this is their very first computer so all will go well. My brother who lives in Oregon will help them set it up.

what took you so long ... it's been available almost all day ;)

I just learned about this tonight; as soon as I did, I did a bit of research and decided it would make a great anniversary present for my parents. This will help them to keep in touch with their grandchildren and great grandchildren. When I do go up to see them I will probably do a server install of Ubuntu and install e17 CVS on it or just install Xubuntu and set up their default session to e17. ;)

Everex launches $198 Ubuntu Linux gPC at Wal-Mart (http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7114714037.html)

update us, how did it go?


and i'm wondering if the e guys knows about this :)

Wow -25 minutes between the first post about ordering and a request for a review. You must have some spectacular delivery services in the States! This would take at least 24hrs in Australia. We are so behind you guys.

:lolflag: I don't know about you guys, or the dilevery speed in the States, I thought, it was just 10 minutes in our place :) j/k

oh I forgot, i'm talking about the delivery time , of the take out from the fast food two blocks from my place :mrgreen:



Walmart says: Will arrive between Tuesday, 11/06/07, and Friday, 11/09/07 ...of next week.

Honestly my parents may not use the computer for much more then my Dad playing Poker and my Mom playing Solitaire.

I will be surprised if we get them to go online. I hope that we do get them online for at least e-mail.

They don't need a DVD burner, I doubt if they will use the CD burner.

Anyway we'll see how it goes, not knowing anything about gOS I suspect I will inevitably load e17 Xubuntu on their computer next time I see them.

I have saved a lot of money by not having to ship the old computer and old CRT monitor (that weighs a ton and is as big as a VW bug) to them. My sister works for HP so she will send them a monitor and anything else they need at employee cost.

I'm totally buying one, I feel good supporting the cause.

I totally support you on this decision 100%...

I can see a whole sub-forum developing here for this. ;)

[fuscia]

rav, old chum, if ubuntu is going to switch to a fruitloop wm for its default, it should be 9wm!!!

[RAV TUX]

rav, old chum, if ubuntu is going to switch to a fruitloop wm for its default, it should be 9wm!!!

I wouldn't be against 9wm either it is as sweet as Fluxbox.

(Edit: but we're talking reality and the reality is many cutting edge distros are choosing e17, gOS is just one example. Elive and Yellow Dog Linux is another.)

...but I find e17 more advanced then GNOME, and XFCE.

I can only imagine a e17 environment filled with KDE applications though. This is why I look forward to KDE4 on Kubuntu Hardy Heron, so I can install e17 on Kubuntu and have the utopia of e17 CVS and all the latest KDE applications.

I am interested to download and try out gOS, I will install this on my old PC-BSD computer so I can help my parents out with their gOS e17 Green computer.

I think that it's cool that a Ubuntu e17 derivative is available to the masses for just under $200, and they have free store-to-store shipping.

[RAV TUX]

I wouldn't be against 9wm either it is as sweet as Fluxbox.

(Edit: but we're talking reality and the reality is many cutting edge distros are choosing e17, gOS is just one example. Elive and Yellow Dog Linux is another.)

...but I find e17 more advanced then GNOME, and XFCE.

I can only imagine a e17 environment filled with KDE applications though. This is why I look forward to KDE4 on Kubuntu Hardy Heron, so I can install e17 on Kubuntu and have the utopia of e17 CVS and all the latest KDE applications.

I am interested to download and try out gOS, I will install this on my old PC-BSD computer so I can help my parents out with their gOS e17 Green computer.

I think that it's cool that a Ubuntu e17 derivative is available to the masses for just under $200, and they have free store-to-store shipping.

Also I wouldn't want Ubuntu to switch their base DE from GNOME but at least develop and release an e17 official derivative: EXubuntu would be nice, EKubuntu or even Ubuntu E17 Edition (UEE)

[Wiebelhaus]

the computer looks great match it up with an lcd monitor. i also like the OS, im looking it up maybe i could try the GOS.

Releasing tomorrow , I'll be one of the first in the download cue.

[RAV TUX]

Releasing tomorrow , I'll be one of the first in the download cue.Not if I'm there first. ;)

[RAV TUX]

Releasing tomorrow , I'll be one of the first in the download cue.btw where are you finding this information?


http://www.thinkgos.com/index.html

[aysiu]

It mentions DVD playback. Do you think that's licensed (as Linspire has it) officially, or do you think it requires libdvdcss2?

[RAV TUX]

It mentions DVD playback. Do you think that's licensed (as Linspire has it) officially, or do you think it requires libdvdcss2?It could be licensed but I honestly was thinking it needs libdvdcss2, but I know nothing of the gOS development other then that it is a e17 Ubuntu derivative. There is no deep information available on line.

I figure at the very least I may have to install an e17 enabled Xubuntu on it for them next time I see them.

Does anybody know anymore information about gOS, other then that the "g" stands for Google(unofficial) and/or Green; and that this is Ubuntu derivative that runs e17 as the WM?

[mistergq]

I am interested to see a review of this computer too. I am in particular interested in the power of this processor. I just wish the unit had a gig of memory, but beyond that, it fascinates me.

[RAV TUX]

I was just reading this straight forward non-critical review:

Wal-Mart Sells $199 Linux Computer
Email this Story (javascript:eMail_Friend(540, 540);) Oct 31, 4:27 PM (ET)

By PETER SVENSSON NEW YORK (AP) - Linux, the free operating system that's a perpetual underdog in the desktop market, is showing up in computers in Wal-Mart stores this week for the first time.
About 600 Wal-Mart stores will carry the $199 Linux-powered "Green gPC" made by Everex of Taiwan, Wal-Mart said. It was available online on Wednesday.
A comparable Everex PC that comes with Windows Vista Home Basic and more memory costs $99 more, or $298, partly because the manufacturer has to pay Microsoft Corp. (MSFT (http://money.excite.com/jsp/qt/short.jsp?symbol_search_text=MSFT)) (MSFT (http://money.excite.com/jsp/qt/short.jsp?symbol_search_text=MSFT)) for a software license. Both computers come with keyboard, mouse, and speakers, but no monitor.
Linux is maintained and developed by individuals and companies around the world volunteering on an "open source" basis, meaning that everyone has access to the software's blueprints.

Linux is in widespread use in server computers, particularly servers that host Web sites. But it hasn't yet made a dent in the desktop market. Surveys usually put its share of that market around 1 percent, far behind Windows and Apple Inc. (AAPL (http://money.excite.com/jsp/qt/short.jsp?symbol_search_text=AAPL))'s OS X.
Wal-Mart spokeswoman Melissa O'Brien said it is stocking the gPC in about one in eight stores to test the demand for an open-source product.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT (http://money.excite.com/jsp/qt/short.jsp?symbol_search_text=WMT)) (WMT (http://money.excite.com/jsp/qt/short.jsp?symbol_search_text=WMT)) sold Linux computers online - but not in stores - starting in 2002 at prices as low as $199. Computers from several manufacturers were available for several years but they didn't find much of a market, and they're gone now.
The variant of Linux on the gPC is called gOS and is derived from the popular Ubuntu variant. It's heavily oriented toward Google's Web sites and online applications, like YouTube, Gmail and the company's word processing program, all of which can be used only when the computer is connected to a broadband line.
Google's push into desktop applications is relatively new, and gOS, the Los Angeles-based startup behind the software, sees it as crucial in overcoming consumers' reluctance to leave the familiar Windows environment.
"We feel the timing is right for open source because of that," said gOS founder David Liu. The company has fewer than 10 people on staff but gets help from volunteers in the Linux community.
Whether value-minded shoppers who would be enticed by a $199 PC will also be interested in making the jump to Linux remains to be seen. The operating system isn't known for ease of use and mainly attracts the tech-savvy, though Liu said his aim was to make the gPC something his mother could use.
The gPC has a low-end processor from VIA Technologies, plus 512 megabytes of internal memory, an 80-gigabyte hard drive and a combination DVD drive and CD burner.
Everex says the processor is very energy efficient, meriting the "Green" part of the name.


http://apnews.excite.com/article/20071031/D8SKEBB00.html

I believe as Linux users and especially as Ubuntu users that we need to support this effort to bring Linux to the real market.

I am very interested to see how this turns out, I have no unreasonable expectancies.

I do find it interesting that gOS is based on Ubuntu 7.10 and has e17 as it's default WM.

gOS could be the new Ubuntu; meaning gOS could be to Ubuntu as Ubuntu is to Debian. I don't know, I only hope for the success of any Linux endeavor, especially one based on Ubuntu.

[RAV TUX]

I have found the gOS's developers blog:

http://www.daveliu.org/

Interesting guy.

[n3tfury]

I'm totally buying one, I feel good supporting the cause.

supporting walmart's cause? lol, ok.

[RAV TUX]

supporting walmart's cause? lol, ok.No different then supporting Dell's cause.

The cause is Linux.

[-grubby]

Of course you would buy it, it comes with E17!

[RAV TUX]

Of course you would buy it, it comes with E17!Of course,...you know me well! ;)

[n3tfury]

No different then supporting Dell's cause.

The cause is Linux.

Dell and Walmart's business ethics are quite different. google it.

[RAV TUX]

Dell and Walmart's business ethics are quite different. google it.How so?...all three seem to be supporting Linux. Is that unethical?

[p_quarles]

No different then supporting Dell's cause.

The cause is Linux.
The difference is that Dell doesn't abuse it's employees to the same extent.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B03EEDE1739F93BA25752C0A9629C8B 63

[RAV TUX]

The difference is that Dell doesn't abuse it's employees to the same extent.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B03EEDE1739F93BA25752C0A9629C8B 63

Before we enter into pure flame wars, doesn't Dell make their computers in China? Where Slave-like factory environments are the norm?

Lets not get silly.

In fact I suggest you start a new thread since this is a new topic.

(EDIT: read the article you linked and that is classic and pure FUD)

[p_quarles]

I'm already silly, but I'll try to stop it.

Anyway, I wasn't trying to start anything -- just answering your question about why Wal-Mart is considered by many people to be an unethical corporation.

[RAV TUX]

I'm already silly, but I'll try to stop it.

Anyway, I wasn't trying to start anything -- just answering your question about why Wal-Mart is considered by many people to be an unethical corporation.
I've heard it all before, in DC we don't have a Walmart but when I went Cape Cod 2 summers ago I went to Walmart for the first time.

I was completely impressed with Walmart and found it to be a wonderful experience over all.

I hold no grudge against Walmart or Dell for that matter. They both support Linux and that is a redeeming quality that makes up for their faults.

I do like that the Everex computers are made in Taiwan and not China.

Anyway I look forward to trying gOS out myself and I hope my parents enjoy their first computer.

I am proud that their first computer is an e17 Ubuntu derivative.

[n3tfury]

Before we enter into pure flame wars, doesn't Dell make their computers in China? Where Slave-like factory environments are the norm?

Lets not get silly.

In fact I suggest you start a new thread since this is a new topic.

(EDIT: read the article you linked and that is classic and pure FUD)

who said anything about "flame wars"? it's ok that you didn't know.

[p_quarles]

(EDIT: read the article you linked and that is classic and pure FUD)
You've never worked in manual labor, obviously. If you're going to accuse me of linking to FUD, please be specific about what is inaccurate.

[RAV TUX]

who said anything about "flame wars"? I did.

You've never worked in manual labor, obviously. If you're going to accuse me of linking to FUD, please be specific about what is inaccurate.I have worked manual labor. I served in the US Navy and the conditions I worked in are 1000 times worse then this story. I experienced a near-death experience during my volunteer service for my country. I don't question the accuracy but I call it pure FUD because the story is ridiculous. This guy knows nothing about true manual labor or human suffering.

...and this is why I requested you start a new thread. This conversation has gone completely off topic.

[n3tfury]

I did.



i guess if you want to label the discussion of shady business practices "flame wars", ok.

[RAV TUX]

I was responding to post in another thread but I thought I would start a new post for the first purchase from a ubuntuforums.org member of a gOS "Green" computer:

Sspecifically the:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=7754614#Accessories+to+Buy





Actually I am buying one online for my parents right now!!

I have an old computer with PC-BSD on it that I was going to send them but this is priced less then it would cost me to ship it to them from DC to Portland, Oregon.

The fact that they have included a Ubuntu version of e17 on the OS is pure genius and a true sign that e17 is the future of Linux.

Canonical really needs to adopt e17 as an official distro release and help in the e17 development.

My parents will love it!

They should receive it next week...I will keep everyone posted.

This my attempt to bring this thread back on topic.

I am excited about my purchase of the gift I have bought my parents for their anniversary.

I also look forward to downloading a copy of gOS and installing it on my old computer so I can help my parents out if need be.

If anyone has a link for the gOS download please post it here.

[p_quarles]

I did.

I have worked manual labor. I served in the US Navy and the conditions I worked in are 1000 times worse then this story. I experienced a near-death experience during my volunteer service for my country. I don't question the accuracy but I call it pure FUD because the story is ridiculous. This guy knows nothing about true manual labor or human suffering.
Thanks for your service. Your voluntarily enrollment into the Navy doesn't actually change the Bill of Rights.

...and this is why I requested you start a new thread. This conversation has gone completely off topic.
Why would I start a new thread to respond to your question?

[kopinux]

*edited already posted*
http://www.thinkgos.com/

its coming nov 1 or something.

[RAV TUX]

*edited already posted*
http://www.thinkgos.com/

its coming nov 1 or something.
Thank you for being respectable enough to post "on topic"

I was wondering where the Nov 1st date came from?

...by my clock it is Nov. 1st what timezone are they referring to?

[n3tfury]

Thanks for your service. Your voluntarily enrollment into the Navy doesn't actually change the Bill of Rights.


Why would I start a new thread to respond to your question?

he was impressed by a walmart store, so there's nothing wrong with their business practices/ethics. probably better let this one go.

[RAV TUX]

I'm totally buying one, I feel good supporting the cause.

It is a good feeling to know that a company values Linux and Ubuntu enough to bring an affordable option to the market place.

I bought it. I feel great about it. This is wonderful dream come true, an affordable Linux computer that has an e17 Ubuntu derivative.

Simply Awesome! ;)

[gradedcheese]

hmm... $200 PC, eh? Perhaps I'll buy one, replace the OS with Ubuntu Server, and add yet another cheap server to my server room :) It should make an alright HTTP or SVN server that doesn't add too much to the electricity bill at least ;)

[RAV TUX]

here is yet another write up on the gOS e17 Green Computer:

$200 Ubuntu Linux PC Now Available at Wal-Mart

By Rob Beschizza http://blog.wired.com/images/icon_email.gif (beschizza@gmail.com)October 31, 2007 | 7:00:59 AMCategories: PCs (http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/pcs/index.html)


http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=48676&d=1193898552



Everex's TC2502 gPC is the first mass-market $200 desktop computer, featuring a custom distribution of Ubuntu Linux and headed for selected Wal-Mart stores.
"It's $200, with no gimmicks or subsidies," Everex spokesman David Liu said.
The gPC aims to joins a popular gang of low-end economy computers leading into the holiday season, such as Asus' $300 EeePC Laptop and VIA's $600 Nanobook. Unlike these machines, however, Everex's latest model is a full-size desktop, and $100 cheaper than even the slightest models from Dell (http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DDCWGA1&s=dhs) or HP (http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/series_can.do?storeName=computer_store&landing=desktops&a1=Usage&v1=Everyday%20computing).
Touted as a "green" machine, it has a 1.5 Ghz VIA C7 CPU embedded in a Mini-ITX motherboard, 512MB of RAM and an 80GB hard drive. Normally, this would simply mark it as unacceptably low-end for use with modern software. By using the fast Enlightenment (http://www.enlightenment.org/) desktop manager (instead of heavier-duty alternatives like Gnome or KDE), the makers say it's more responsive than Vista is, even on more powerful computers.
"It's almost like a Google PC," Liu says, pointing to the desktop's rack of pre-configured links to all of Google's online applications. It is, he says, the mass-market Linux PC we've all been waiting for. "That's our dream. ... we go the final step to make it work out the box, to go the whole nine yards."
The gPC also has a DVD burner and, for those not drinking the web-app cool-aid, OpenOffice and lots more local software. There's free phone support and a regularly updated app called "Faqly" that contains the latest tech support info for folks stuck offline.

http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=48677&d=1193898552

http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=48678&d=1193898552

If users want to install Windows on it, they can, though Everex cautions that Vista will not run well without a RAM upgrade. Recent games will not run well, if at all, on the gPC: the requirements of even humble titles like World of Warcraft exceed the system specifications.
Even at the low end, however, image is everything. The gPC is built using tiny components, but put inside a full-size case because research indicates that Wal-Mart shoppers are so unsophisticated they equate physical size with capability.
The machine is, technically, little different from sexier, geekier basic models like the Zonbu, (http://www.zonbu.com/home/index.htm) only pitched to a different crowd. It does, however, offer a complete, upgradeable system for the lowest possible price, making the gPC a great candidate for home file/media servers and other "experiments." Everex says it wants advanced users to "play with it" and make suggestions for further development.
If nothing else, you get a ready-to-roll Mini-ITX system ready to be hacked into a CarPC or any of these weird and wonderful SFF designs (http://mini-itx.com/).
The team working on the gPC has about 10 members, including volunteers from the open-source community. With the limited release, Everex expectes to sell "under 10,000 units" at first — a limitation perhaps related to the need to provide good tech support for less savvy users unfamiliar with Linux's conventions.
Everex TC2502 Green gPC w/ Via C7-D Processor (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=7754614) [Wal-Mart]
Everex's Product Gallery (http://www.everex.com/corporate%20info/images/images.htm#gpc) [Everex]
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/10/200-everex-gree.html

The only thing I see wrong with this article is that it does not include a DVD burner but a CD burner.

[RAV TUX]

November 1st 2007 7:05am EST

still no gOS download available...

http://www.thinkgos.com/download.html

[Warpnow]

Whenever someone gets one...

Post a pic of the insides?

They say it uses small parts...I'm wondering if it could be retrofitted into a smaller case.

[Wiebelhaus]

November 1st 2007 7:05am EST

still no gOS download available...

http://www.thinkgos.com/download.html

2 More hours mate.

[the_darkside_986]

My g/f is needing to buy a PC soon, she needs it for myspace and yahoo mail... perhaps I should recommend this to her? well, only if they would ship it to the local walmart. i normally wouldn't recomment walmart electronics, but this might be better than her going to circuit city and the sales persons trying to rip her off and say that she needs to buy the one with 4 GB of RAM just for basic word processing and myspace.

i'm not a big fan of walmart but it is cool that they are selling machines that run open source software and have low power consumption.

[RAV TUX]

2 More hours mate.

Thanks for the 411, I know what I'll be doing tonight.

My g/f is needing to buy a PC soon, she needs it for myspace and yahoo mail... perhaps I should recommend this to her? well, only if they would ship it to the local walmart. i normally wouldn't recomment walmart electronics, but this might be better than her going to circuit city and the sales persons trying to rip her off and say that she needs to buy the one with 4 GB of RAM just for basic word processing and myspace.

i'm not a big fan of walmart but it is cool that they are selling machines that run open source software and have low power consumption.

They have free store to store shipping.

Damn good deal overall.

[Wiebelhaus]

Thanks for the 411, I know what I'll be doing tonight.



They have free store to store shipping.

Damn good deal overall.

There must be some issues , It's after Nine everywhere in the US , I'm guessing it's north American considering there's no language selector? idk.

Matter of fact why isn't it listed on Distrowatch? or anywhere else on the internets for that matter......strange.

[popch]

There must be some issues , It's after Nine everywhere in the US , I'm guessing it's north American considering there's no language selector? idk.

Matter of fact why isn't it listed on Distrowatch? or anywhere else on the internets for that matter......strange.

Perhaps it is a derivative of Fluxbuntu which also was late by some minutes?

[n3tfury]

boo hoo?

[Wiebelhaus]

Perhaps it is a derivative of Fluxbuntu which also was late by some minutes?

lol.

[Wiebelhaus]

boo hoo?


http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/99/58/22595899.jpg

waa..

[phrostbyte]

This gOS looks really interesting, not just because it runs e17 :) -- but it seems to be an attempt at a "web OS" with the Google Apps integration.

[Caffeine_Junky]

This gOS looks really interesting, not just because it runs e17 :) -- but it seems to be an attempt at a "web OS" with the Google Apps integration.

Yeah, for these reasons it has caught my attention as well !


@ Rav_Tux
Thanks for bringing gOS too my attention..

[RAV TUX]

Matter of fact why isn't it listed on Distrowatch? or anywhere else on the internets for that matter......strange.Very simple answer there are many distros that are not included on DW, They have a very long waiting list and unless they buy ad space they won't get bumped up.

Also Wikipedia will not include them for notability reasons.

You could ask why are they not on Distropedia, simply because I or someone else hasn't added them, yet. ;)

[TeraDyne]

Did the gOS site get hit by slashdot or digg? It seems to be down.

[Wiebelhaus]

WOOT (http://thegreencompany.servdns.com/thinkgos.com/files/gos-live-1.0_386.iso)

It's up.

[TeraDyne]

I'm downloading it now. I'll try it on my laptop once I get it burned. I plan on making a hands-on review of the thing on my LiveJournal, and I'll make sure to post it here as well.

[clancymf]

Can you tell if it is a live CD? Or are you going to have to do the full installation

[n3tfury]

it's live.

[Wiebelhaus]

Holy crap this thing is nice , runs super fast , Lots of testing going into this one.

[Caffeine_Junky]

Boo! DL will not start, ..I will have to wait a bit, ..I guess this DL is popular! (pffft damn distro junkies :p )

[popch]

Have now booted two hp laptops with the liveCD of gOS.

nc6220 boots< have been unable to connect to WLAN. My fault, see below

tc1100 boots but only in save graphics mode. Local keyboard not configured, mouse scroll wheel does not work, WLAN does work

CAUTION: For hex WEP key apply caps lock. Hex characters must be in upper case.

It runs fast. I find the default theme perfectly ugly which is a matter of opinion.

They said that this iso was for developers and not for plain users. As a preview, it is already quite nice. Does it have a text editor?

Now even the pen works, same as in ubuntu *plain edition*

[macogw]

I can only imagine a e17 environment filled with KDE applications though. This is why I look forward to KDE4 on Kubuntu Hardy Heron, so I can install e17 on Kubuntu and have the utopia of e17 CVS and all the latest KDE applications.

As far as I can tell, the reason e17 is still pre-alpha when it's completely stable is that they are trying to build up a bunch of apps for it (just check the CVS) to turn it into a DE in its own right. Then, the Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (EFL) will certainly fit in better than the KDE libs. It makes me want to learn to use EFL, but I'm not into GUIs, really.

[RAV TUX]

Did the gOS site get hit by slashdot or digg? It seems to be down.

Can't load it here either :(

WOOT (http://thegreencompany.servdns.com/thinkgos.com/files/gos-live-1.0_386.iso)

It's up.

I wish it was for me.

Can you tell if it is a live CD? Or are you going to have to do the full installation

it's live.

Cool!

Holy crap this thing is nice , runs super fast , Lots of testing going into this one.

Can you post screenshots and write a review?

Perhaps at Distropedia (http://cafelinux.org/distropedia/)?

Boo! DL will not start, ..I will have to wait a bit, ..I guess this DL is popular! (pffft damn distro junkies :p )

I waiting all day to get home and download it only for it to be too busy!

Have now booted two hp laptops:

nc6220 boots< have been unable to connect to WLAN. My fault, see below

tc1100 boots but only in save graphics mode. Local keyboard not configured, mouse scroll wheel does not work, WLAN does work

CAUTION: For hex WEP key apply caps lock. Hex characters must be in upper case.

It runs fast. I find the default theme perfectly ugly which is a matter of opinion.

They said that this iso was for developers and not for plain users. As a preview, it is already quite nice. Does it have a text editor?Please post screenshots...

Also big question for me, does it include a solitaire and poker game...this is a primary need for my parents. Sounds silly but thats what it cracks down to.

[RAV TUX]

As far as I can tell, the reason e17 is still pre-alpha when it's completely stable is that they are trying to build up a bunch of apps for it (just check the CVS) to turn it into a DE in its own right. Then, the Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (EFL) will certainly fit in better than the KDE libs. It makes me want to learn to use EFL, but I'm not into GUIs, really.I currently run and use the e17 CVS in Xubuntu.

I still like several KDE applications that I will not part with.

[urukrama]

(Edit: but we're talking reality and the reality is many cutting edge distros are choosing e17, gOS is just one example. Elive and Yellow Dog Linux is another.)

Mentioning Elive in that list is bad reasoning. You consider it cutting edge because it uses E17; it is not a cutting edge distro that decided to use E17. Please correct me if I am wrong, but Elive was created around E17, unlike Yellow Dog.

[Griminal]

How about somebody posting a torrent?

[RAV TUX]

Mentioning Elive in that list is bad reasoning. You consider it cutting edge because it uses E17; it is not a cutting edge distro that decided to use E17. Please correct me if I am wrong, but Elive was created around E17, unlike Yellow Dog.
Elive is an older version of e17, and not a very good representation of what the full potential of e17 really is I agree. It is a good start though.

If you want to experience e17 simply follow the guide linked in my signature.

I am excited to see gOS, I want to be able to load it on my old computer that I run PC-BSD on now so if my parents need help I can easily walk them through it over the phone if need be.

[RAV TUX]

How about somebody posting a torrent?Good Idea! I would really love a gOS torrent right about now.

[picpak]

Any chance that this'll be available in Canada? I sure hope so.

[Griminal]

Good Idea! I would really love a gOS torrent right about now.

Yeah... seeings how they can't serve the ISO themselves. ;)

[thx11381974]

Try this

http://www.thinkgos.com/

[n3tfury]

Try this

http://www.thinkgos.com/

um. no.

[HelloImHowie]

I can't believe they didn't think to have some download mirrors

[HelloImHowie]

Just noticed this on the download page, too:

Can I play DVDs or mp3s with the gOS?

Out of the box, the gPC and other future gOS products will play DVDs and mp3s. In this free, downloadable version, the gOS will not include codecs for these proprietary formats.

When and if the download becomes available, we're still getting a stripped down version :(

[popch]

Please post screenshots...

Also big question for me, does it include a solitaire and poker game...this is a primary need for my parents. Sounds silly but thats what it cracks down to.

Sorry, can not do any screen shots at the moment. It does look exactly as shown on gOS's web site. The icons at the bottom of the screen which launch the programs are too large for my taste and I find the animation when under the cursor quite horrible and distracting. Also, there are too many for my taste. However, that's me.

I can confirm the presence of solitaire (AisleRiot). I think the selection of games is the same as on plain ubuntu. As it has ubuntu underneath, the same repositories ought to be available. What would be the name of a poker game?

BTW, does anyone know how to turn down the volume of the speakers?

[jviscosi]

Somebody already posted a review on Wal-Mart's site rating it three stars and "warning" users that it's not Windows. It's reasonable to note this, but, kids, that ain't a bug -- that's a feature!

[mistergq]

I want to get one of these computers to support the cause, and that is not the Walmart cause :rolleyes: My only problem is what I can use it for.

[n3tfury]

Somebody already posted a review on Wal-Mart's site rating it three stars and "warning" users that it's not Windows. It's reasonable to note this, but, kids, that ain't a bug -- that's a feature!

some "review"

Before you purchase this product you will want to be aware that it has a Linux OS. This means most (If not all) Windows products, Games and programs WILL NOT RUN without you adding the appropriate plugins. Unless you are already familiar with Linux, you may want to look at the Windows units.


lol, plugins

[Knyven]

Can you make torrent?

For people who downloaded it, or who bought it that comes along with DVD.

[RAV TUX]

Sorry, can not do any screen shots at the moment. It does look exactly as shown on gOS's web site. The icons at the bottom of the screen which launch the programs are too large for my taste and I find the animation when under the cursor quite horrible and distracting. Also, there are too many for my taste. However, that's me.

I can confirm the presence of solitaire (AisleRiot). I think the selection of games is the same as on plain ubuntu. As it has ubuntu underneath, the same repositories ought to be available. What would be the name of a poker game?

BTW, does anyone know how to turn down the volume of the speakers?

If it includes the GIMP you can do screenshots, GIMP>file>acquire>screenshot>snap

Blackjack or KPoker would be nice...

Volume Control

Can you make torrent?

For people who downloaded it, or who bought it that comes along with DVD.

Again, this is a resonable request.

[RAV TUX]

YES!!!....the download has begun!

the proof is in the pudding!

gOS live 1.0 download(728.5 MB) in Opera 9.50 on e17 Xubuntu 7.10
http://cafelinux.org/OptickleArt/albums/userpics/normal_snapshot37.png (http://cafelinux.org/OptickleArt/displayimage.php?pos=-324)

[Nekiruhs]

Will it play doom?

Sorry to beat the meme to death.

[klange]

Will it play doom?

Sorry to beat the meme to death.
It better! Remember, there are even refrigerators and watches that play Doom. Web meme or not, if it doesn't play Doom, then that's just sad.
(Of course, personally, I prefer Marathon)

[RAV TUX]

Will it play doom?

Sorry to beat the meme to death.

It better! Remember, there are even refrigerators and watches that play Doom. Web meme or not, if it doesn't play Doom, then that's just sad.
(Of course, personally, I prefer Marathon)

Simply put it does what ever Ubuntu can do since it is a Ubuntu derivative.

[Frak]

Hey RAV, did you consider posting it on Linuxtracker once its done downloading, I really want a shot at this and ther server isn't responding to requests.

[init1]

The link isn't working for me either. Not that I have time to download it now anyway ;D
Hopefully I will be able to get it soon.

[RAV TUX]

Hey RAV, did you consider posting it on Linuxtracker once its done downloading, I really want a shot at this and ther server isn't responding to requests.Not a bad idea. I will consider it.

[Frak]

Not a bad idea. I will consider it.
w00t :D ;)

[phrostbyte]

Just noticed this on the download page, too:



When and if the download becomes available, we're still getting a stripped down version :(

apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras

[phrostbyte]

Yay I got on the download queue! WOOT WOOT!

By the way, someone needs to BitTorrent this badly.

[Frak]

Yay I got on the download queue! WOOT WOOT!

By the way, someone needs to BitTorrent this badly.
Works for me now too :)

This is going on LT when (and if first) I get finished.

[RAV TUX]

torrent is here!

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600101

[mistergq]

The first time I downloaded it, it did not downloaded the whole thing. I am trying to redownload it again. we really need a torrent

[RAV TUX]

The first time I downloaded it, it did not downloaded the whole thing. I am trying to redownload it again. we really need a torrentSee the link posted below there is a Torrent. :)

[mistergq]

thank you. i am downloading with that now

[cmmike1]

me too.

[HermanAB]

I'm using an older 1GHz Via machine with two disk drives as an NFS server to backup my mail server. It works like a charm. These new Via machines should make great general purpose machines. They will even be OK with WinXP.

[RAV TUX]

I'm using an older 1GHz Via machine with two disk drives as an NFS server to backup my mail server. It works like a charm. These new Via machines should make great general purpose machines. They will even be OK with WinXP.

Nice that a new awesome Ubuntu derivative is making major waves!

This is very exciting!

[jviscosi]

some "review"
lol, plugins

True, "review" may have been overstating it. I'd write a rebuttal but I don't want to give Wal-Mart my e-mail address ... Hmm, how did "an anonymous user" manage to post a rating? Is that actually someone's user name at Wal-Mart? I smell a conspiracy! :-P

[orochics]

yea, i just ordered mine earlier, I'm eager to find out what motherboard they put inside. From what ive seen, most 1.5ghz VIA boards are over $200 by themselves. Hopefully its not a OEM low featured board.

[sloggerkhan]

Yeah, once I hear about the mobo I might consider buying one.

[RAV TUX]

yea, i just ordered mine earlier, I'm eager to find out what motherboard they put inside. From what ive seen, most 1.5ghz VIA boards are over $200 by themselves. Hopefully its not a OEM low featured board.

Awesome, I just received a confirmation e-mail that my order has shipped, I will post as soon as my parents receive it.

[Caffeine_Junky]

Well I have got gOS, ...I am running off of the live CD as I type!

FYI: I just DL the OS I didn't buy the PC

Hmm, ..heh, don't now what else to say about it at this point, ... I might install it too HDD and give it a run for a few days and see how I like it


...this thread has gone really quiet!, ...are you all off testing gOS??


Link: gOS FAQ's (http://www.faqly.com/faq/view/id/34http://)

[rogerdean]

Interesting. At some point during the site build process last night, all references to Google apps (except the trademark acknowledgements) vanished from the gOS site. Was there a lawyer jumping up and down? I wonder.

[Kappity]

True, "review" may have been overstating it. I'd write a rebuttal but I don't want to give Wal-Mart my e-mail address ... Hmm, how did "an anonymous user" manage to post a rating? Is that actually someone's user name at Wal-Mart? I smell a conspiracy! :-P

I'd kind of like to write a "don't be afraid of Linux" rebuttal myself, but not having tried this actual hardware, or flavor of Linux, I wouldn't want to sound like I'm recommending it.:-k

Just to be Devil's advocate, I wonder if this kind of offering could actually set Linux back. If the cheap hardware turns out to have problems, then computer novices might associate that with the OS.

On the other hand, maybe it will turn out to be a great bargain. I'm looking forward to seeing some reviews after some people have these for a couple of weeks, or a month.

[n3tfury]

Well I have got gOS, ...I am running off of the live CD as I type!

FYI: I just DL the OS I didn't buy the PC

Hmm, ..heh, don't now what else to say about it at this point, ... I might install it too HDD and give it a run for a few days and see how I like it


...this thread has gone really quiet!, ...are you all off testing gOS??


Link: gOS FAQ's (http://www.faqly.com/faq/view/id/34http://)

what's with the two gimp icons? also, are they blurry because the app is open?

[n3tfury]

i can't even get to the homepage now. another interesting thing, since i couldn't get on the page i pinged their url and got:

~$ ping www.thinkgos.com
PING www.thinkgos.com (72.47.199.71) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from googlepc.com (72.47.199.71): icmp_seq=1 ttl=42 time=98.6 ms
64 bytes from googlepc.com (72.47.199.71): icmp_seq=2 ttl=42 time=97.6 ms


hm..

[Wiebelhaus]

Have you folks been able to get the ISO downloaded? If not I have it , Does distropedia host images?

[Rui Pais]

Hi people.
Interesting thread RAV TUX, specially the part about gOS (weird name with a "g", for an Ubuntu derivate on e... sounds too gnomish and no special focus on enlightenment... eOS would be beautiful :) although there was, some time a go, an OS with that name... )

Can some one enlighten ;) me on some details?

What kind of e17 it have? It's updated or some fork on a specific date tuned for stability?

It's installed on /opt/ or mixed with system /usr/bin, /usr/libs, etc?

It's compiled directly or e17 apps/libs are listed by apt/synaptic?
(experience seems to indicate that precompiled debs for e17 are always a bad idea and an inevitable source of trouble...)

Anyone knows how updates are planned? (apt, script,?)

And what version of ubuntu is based? what version of Xorg did it uses (Gutsy X seems to be a terrible one:()

Besides e pre installed what would be the diferences between this and a server or a minimalCD install with e17 from cvs?

Thanks (and sorry for my questions being so techie and less on looks.)

:)
Rui.

[mega]

anyone know if the VIA UniChrome Pro IGP chips will support compiz effects ?

[clancymf]

So those that had a day to play with it whats your take?

[Caffeine_Junky]

what's with the two gimp icons? also, are they blurry because the app is open?

I was using Gimp to take the SS, ..so I minimized both it's windows to take the shot..

As to the blurred gimp-icons, I did a dpkg-reconf' and set the screen res to 1024x768 on the LiveCD, ..which makes the icons to big (I suppose).

I have it installed to HDD now, and am having a sh*t of a time trying to config X to use the nvidia driver "nvidia-glx-new", ..this is the same driver I use on Ubuntu Gutsy, but no matter how hard I try to setup xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver it will only use/accept the "nv" driver.

If I edit xorg.conf with the dpkg-reconf' command the settings don't stick!

If I edit the file by hand then "Ctrl + Alt + BS" , I loose my mouse cursor and have to reboot to get it back, ..and after reboot xorg re-writes the config' file back the orignal again ..grrr..

The only reason I am pursuing the nvidia driver, is I want to be able to use nvidia-settings to set my refresh rate, ..it is to low and giving me eye strain.

I will post the defalt xorg file this thing wants to use:
# xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "stylus"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "stylus"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "eraser"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "eraser"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "cursor"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "cursor"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Xdebconfigurator Card"
Driver "nv"
BusID "PCI:0:5:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Xdebconfigurator Monitor"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 30-70
VertRefresh 50-120
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "Xdebconfigurator Card"
Monitor "Xdebconfigurator Monitor"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Modes "2048x1536" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "640x400" "320x240" "320x400" "320x200"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"

# Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
# InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
# InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
# InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

The Monitor and Gfx-card driver section is what I am having the trouble with, those "Xdebconfigurator" entries (read: red highlight) I am not familiar with them, ...and dpkg-reconf' has no effect on it! ...they should be my "nvidia GF 6100" entries in there!, ..dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg finds them but dose not write them to the file.
See here: http://www.faqly.com/question/view/id/83 and here: http://cafelinux.org/gosforum/index.php?topic=32.msg236#msg236 ...for help with "Xdebconfigurator"

ps: I have a 17' CRT monitor.

[n3tfury]

thanks for the answer. hope you get your .conf figured out.

[Caffeine_Junky]

thanks for the answer. hope you get your .conf figured out.

Cool, yeah I will get there man...

...with a little patience, I will get gOS humming along nicely, ..let's face it, gOS has a good base system, Ubuntu was a good choice for them.

[Wiebelhaus]

I had to really work on it to get it fully functioning with my monitor & Video card , reconfiguring xserver over and over again , installing proprietary drivers it was a pain , certainly nothing a new guy could pull off.


It's really cool , But no where near the usability that a fully configured Gnome desktop is.

[lunaz]

I'm considering buying one of these to use as a home server. How is it on the noise & power? It'd be command line, headless.

It's a full sized case right? :(

[Caffeine_Junky]

I had to really work on it to get it fully functioning with my monitor & Video card , reconfiguring xserver over and over again , installing proprietary drivers it was a pain ....

Heh, that reminds me of my first week on Ubuntu/linux!, ..I had a headache for weeks after that! ...mind you tho, I was distro-hopping at the time, ...and I had 3 or 4 different distro's installed, and was trying to learn & config' them all at the same time..

[lunaz]

Well damn, just called both the walmarts here and neither of em even know what this is all about. :(

[SunnyRabbiera]

the only thing I am worried about is what actually goes into these computers...
why would they sell ultra cheap computers if they are not to have six million flaws in them?
sorry I rather buy from a OEM like HP then go with a nobody like this, heck I would sooner buy from system 76 then buy this as at least they have a decent rep.
but no bargain basement stuff.

[ohioboy757]

Reputations are earned. HP started in a garage and look where they are now.

I may buy one of these systems to use as a vmware server. I wish it would take more than 2gb RAM.

[SunnyRabbiera]

Reputations are earned. HP started in a garage and look where they are now.

Uh huh, as did many other companies out there...
but HP has earned my respect has has system 76 as I hear nothing but good things about them... but this I am very unsure of.

[Frak]

I think RAV would like this, its e17.

[smartboyathome]

I think RAV would like this, its e17.

He does, he liked it so much he started their official forum and is part of the dev team.

[Frak]

He does, he liked it so much he started their official forum and is part of the dev team.
And I'm first member :)

[RAV TUX]

Hi people.
Interesting thread RAV TUX, specially the part about gOS (weird name with a "g", for an Ubuntu derivate on e... sounds too gnomish and no special focus on enlightenment... eOS would be beautiful :) although there was, some time a go, an OS with that name... )

Can some one enlighten ;) me on some details?

What kind of e17 it have? It's updated or some fork on a specific date tuned for stability?

It's installed on /opt/ or mixed with system /usr/bin, /usr/libs, etc?

It's compiled directly or e17 apps/libs are listed by apt/synaptic?
(experience seems to indicate that precompiled debs for e17 are always a bad idea and an inevitable source of trouble...)

Anyone knows how updates are planned? (apt, script,?)

And what version of ubuntu is based? what version of Xorg did it uses (Gutsy X seems to be a terrible one:()

Besides e pre installed what would be the diferences between this and a server or a minimalCD install with e17 from cvs?

Thanks (and sorry for my questions being so techie and less on looks.)

:)
Rui.Rui, Rav here...I will try to answer one question with what little I know;

gOS is based on Ubuntu 7.10

For more questions go to Freenode #e the gOS Dev. is highly involved with the e devs.

Also the gOS chanel on Freenode is #gOS

[n3tfury]

i wonder why google hasn't made a stink about them using "googlepc" as the domain name?

[Frak]

i wonder why google hasn't made a stink about them using "googlepc" as the domain name?
Google can't do anything about the domain name. The ICAAN set rules against domain-trademark infringement.

[n3tfury]

ah thanks, didn't know that. i'm surprised they have the balls to use the name though.

[kelvin spratt]

Stuck it on a usb stick and booted it up But again so much is lacking, Only minimal icons, and themes, It needs Elives theme switcher to switch icons and themes, not just the desktop. Needs to get rid of open office, And use the theme-able version, Thunar is missing and has to be installed. And why try to copy Windows, E17 is the best desktop why try to downgrade a work of art and make it look like win 98. E17 is so themeable and all people do is spoil it and try to make it like windows seems such a waste to me, They could have used some animation on the desk top. Sorry Rav to sound so negative just so much can be done with E17 and you don't need to be a programer to customise. Apart from Elive we just keep getting a very boring and plain looking E17 that I for one would be ashamed to release or even use as it is.

[RAV TUX]

yea, i just ordered mine earlier, I'm eager to find out what motherboard they put inside. From what ive seen, most 1.5ghz VIA boards are over $200 by themselves. Hopefully its not a OEM low featured board.Here is a gOS Motherboard:


http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A4842001

[tubasoldier]

If you bought this PC from WalMart then you should go back and give it a review. It has alreay had one not so good review from someone who must think Linux is the worst thing ever. The review came in well before one could have been shipped. So if you bought one head on back to the page and tell us what you really think.

[rogerdean]

gOS is interesting, and fun. i've never had a play with E17 before, and it's nice and quick. the bottom bar gives me a headache though (expect i'll figure out how to calm it down)

for future revisions, maybe the F (of facebook) should not come next to the You (of youtube)??

[Caffeine_Junky]

Update:

I was having trouble getting xorg configured so I could use the nvidia-driver from the repo's and also have my fav' screen-res and refresh-rate (1024x768 @ 85Hz), ..anyhow, I have it all sorted now. (accept I have to copy my moded xorg.conf file over the Default one every time I boot into gOS, then logout and in again to use it)..

I had a problem when trying to use the nvidia driver that left me with no Mouse pointer, ..to fix this I added the following option (in red):

Section "Device"
Identifier "Xdebconfigurator Card"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "HWCursor" "off"
Adding that option gave me a "mouse pointer" again..

Here is my working xorg Config' file: (changes I made in Red) This config' File was generated with the command "sudo nvidia-xconfig" due to the fact that in the beginning the "nvidia-settings" terminal command, produced an error and suggested I run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" to fix it..
# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder3) Wed Sep 12 14:29:35 PDT 2007

# xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "ServerLayout"

# Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
# InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
# InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
# InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen" 0 0
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "glx"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer" "true"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "Explorer PS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "false"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "stylus"
Driver "wacom"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "stylus"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "eraser"
Driver "wacom"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "eraser"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "cursor"
Driver "wacom"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "cursor"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Xdebconfigurator Monitor"
HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Xdebconfigurator Card"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "HWCursor" "off"

EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "Xdebconfigurator Card"
Monitor "Xdebconfigurator Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

The Google stuff that is offered by default, such as a "Personalized Homepage", ..is really nice, and soon maybe a feature I can not do without!

Anyhoo, I have gOS up and configured (accpt for sound, ..it cant find my sound card) ..so now I will move on to adding some more themes and backgrounds for e17.. http://www4.get-e.org/ ..has some nice ones!

[bigbirdoncrack]

Looks like someone else is posting more anti-linux reviews on wally world.

[thomas412]

I tried gOS in a virtualbox, it runs fast and seems stable. I think it can be a good choice for an end user pc :)

[RAV TUX]

If you bought this PC from WalMart then you should go back and give it a review. It has alreay had one not so good review from someone who must think Linux is the worst thing ever. The review came in well before one could have been shipped. So if you bought one head on back to the page and tell us what you really think.I will hold out to post a review once my parents have received it.

I did burn & boot gOS this morning but I didn't have time to play too much.

It is completely fast and stable and is prefect for the end user.

gOS is beyond ready for the desktop...

Admittedly I don't like the default look and will easily tweak and customize it as I would with any OS.

For my parents who are 71 & 68 respectively and this will be their very first computer this is perfect for them.

gOS admittedly will be perfect for 80% of the masses and is a much better option then windows or Apple.

Ubuntu and all of Linux should be proud...

[Frak]

gOS is interesting, and fun. i've never had a play with E17 before, and it's nice and quick. the bottom bar gives me a headache though (expect i'll figure out how to calm it down)

for future revisions, maybe the F (of facebook) should not come next to the You (of youtube)??
I noticed that too. Not very much planning in the language department ;)

[Hendrixski]

:-) I just gave E17 another try and all I have to say is WOW!!!

I tried it a few months ago and I thought it was grossly not ready for use by anybody, but today it actually works. It's not easy as GNOME yet, but at this rate it will get there soon. :-)

Good choice. I'm going to tell all of my friends to get either this or an Ubuntu Dell.

[w7kmc]

My daughter's both 4 and 9 are wanting a PC...they play on my ubuntu laptop all the time...this little number from Wally World may be just the ticket for xmas! Hopefully, a lot more will feel that way!

[Rui Pais]

Rui, Rav here...I will try to answer one question with what little I know;

gOS is based on Ubuntu 7.10

For more questions go to Freenode #e the gOS Dev. is highly involved with the e devs.

Also the gOS chanel on Freenode is #gOS

Thanks for the answer RAV TUX
(strangely i am not receiving mail notifications from this thread... weird).

So it's gutsy based... i'm having a huge load of problems with 7.10 :( ...
I think i will need to clean this install (fight it for 2 weeks, i changed so many things...) I was thinking on a fresh install based on minimalCD or something, but maybe i give a try with gOS.
But torrent is always falling and i can't managed to download.

Maybe i'll wait a little more.



Can someone tell me where e17 is installed on system (/opt/ /usr/local/ or mixed in /usr/bin /usr/lib, a plain whereis enlightenment would be enough :))?

[Flying caveman]

Hey, I'm posting from gOS running from Live DVD. on an Athlon XP 2500 w/ 1GB of RAM. It seems Ubunutu-ish stil, although i've never used e-17, i could probably get used to it. I don't see anything that would make me want to install it over Ubuntu, I'm going to install it to the hard drive on this computer to play around some more.

[SC2Sick]

i really want to try it out, i'm using qemu and keep getting stuck

check out the attached screenshots and tell me what to do plz.

the gos forums are down again :(

[Frak]

i really want to try it out, i'm using qemu and keep getting stuck

check out the attached screenshots and tell me what to do plz.

the gos forums are down again :(
Try using Virtualbox instead of QEMU.

Also, RAV TUX is trying to get the forums transfered to a less cramped server.

[SC2Sick]

installing virtualbox now.
i can't wait until this is small enough for a standard cd, i have a couple pcs i want to put this on for family, but not all of them have dvd drives.

[SC2Sick]

okay, up and running, I like it a lot actually. still some bugs to work out, but minor ones.

[n3tfury]

would you mind naming these bugs?

[SC2Sick]

would you mind naming these bugs?

look @ the launcher bar @ the bottom of my screenshot. it moves left to right, etc... but when i go far left it moves extra slow. i think that's an e17 issue though. other than that it seems good, i'm going to pick up one of the developer board i think when the site is back up.

[Frak]

look @ the launcher bar @ the bottom of my screenshot. it moves left to right, etc... but when i go far left it moves extra slow. i think that's an e17 issue though. other than that it seems good, i'm going to pick up one of the developer board i think when the site is back up.
thinkgos is up and the forums are up.

[SC2Sick]

yeah, i'm in via proxy, it hasn't resolved w/ my ISP or something, i can't even ping cafelinux.org ....

[Frak]

yeah, i'm in via proxy, it hasn't resolved w/ my ISP or something, i can't even ping cafelinux.org ....
This should stop after the site is moved. There are too many hosting accounts on that one server that they are currently on.

[SC2Sick]

w00t, posting from within gOS. seems to run well inside the virtualbox, thx for telling me to ditch qemu, i've always had problems with it...

[RAV TUX]

This should stop after the site is moved. There are too many hosting accounts on that one server that they are currently on.

I am working on moving CafeLinux.org to a dedicated server(which host the Official gOS Forum)...just to give you an idea of the amount of traffic I got today alone was over 78,000 unique hits mostly coming from the ThinkgOS website.

Shared host and even VPS host are no longer an option for CafeLinux.org

Please be patient while improvements are made.

[Frak]

w00t, awsome number of unique hits in just a day. That has to rank up with UF.

[Caffeine_Junky]

Thanks for the answer RAV TUX
(strangely i am not receiving mail notifications from this thread... weird).

So it's gutsy based... i'm having a huge load of problems with 7.10 :( ...
I think i will need to clean this install (fight it for 2 weeks, i changed so many things...) I was thinking on a fresh install based on minimalCD or something, but maybe i give a try with gOS.
But torrent is always falling and i can't managed to download.

Maybe i'll wait a little more.



Can someone tell me where e17 is installed on system (/opt/ /usr/local/ or mixed in /usr/bin /usr/lib, a plain whereis enlightenment would be enough :))?

ash@gOS:~$ whereis enlightenment
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment /etc/enlightenment /usr/lib/enlightenment /usr/include/enlightenment /usr/share/enlightenment
ash@gOS:~$

...gOS has not recognized my sound-card...

I did a "ash@gOS:~$ sudo modprobe snd-" but the module > "snd-hda-intel" is not in the list for my Kernel: 2.6.22-14-386.

Update: Sound issue fixed (see my next post)

[tdrusk]

...gOS has not recognised my sound-card, so I may have to re-install. I have installed many flavor's of Linux and never had one not find my sound-card before.

I did a "ash@gOS:~$ sudo modprobe snd-" but the module > "snd-hda-intel" is not in the list.

ash@gOS:~$ whereis enlightenment
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment /etc/enlightenment /usr/lib/enlightenment /usr/include/enlightenment /usr/share/enlightenment
ash@gOS:~$

Try

sudo alsaconf

[Caffeine_Junky]

Try

sudo alsaconf

Thanks for the suggestion mate!

..I fixed my sound problem by removing the 2.6.22-14-386 Kernel and booted from the 2.6.22-14-generic-x86/x86_64 Kernel, and re-applied the restricted-nvidia drivers, ...all is good now!, .. gOS is fully functional on my system! ...Sound'n-all!! ;)

[Rui Pais]

ash@gOS:~$ whereis enlightenment
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment /etc/enlightenment /usr/lib/enlightenment /usr/include/enlightenment /usr/share/enlightenment
ash@gOS:~$

...

Thanks for you answer Caffeine_Junky.

So they mixed with the system... not a great choice imho :(

e17 works really good, but it's not stable (in the sense that api is not fixed and changes very often), mix with system libs and binaries and update using precompiled is the 1st. step for getting troubles.

Probably gOS will set on minimal updates of e17 to keep things working...

[Rui Pais]

look @ the launcher bar @ the bottom of my screenshot. it moves left to right, etc... but when i go far left it moves extra slow. i think that's an e17 issue though. other than that it seems good, i'm going to pick up one of the developer board i think when the site is back up.

Hi,
you can right click on shelf (e17 "panels") and disable 'Automatically scroll contents' to avoid annoying effects like that.
Shelfs are very configurable :)

[jviscosi]

The product page at Wal-Mart finally has reviews and ratings from people who AREN'T Windows trolls. About time ...

[Frak]

The product page at Wal-Mart finally has reviews and ratings from people who AREN'T Windows trolls. About time ...
w00t, the reinforcements have arrived ;)

[Caffeine_Junky]

I'm not good at giving technical or well written reviews, ..but what I can say too the curious, is:

Give gOS a try-out for a few days, ..configure things like, your 'Personal Google Homepage' and keyboard-shortcuts for your favorite app's (eg of mine: [F9]=File Browser, [F10]=Firefox, [F11]=Media-Player, [F12]=Terminal) ...

Man this thing is growing on me! ...

...gOS is great for 'Web Surfing', ...all the apps' and features I need come pre-installed and if i want to add some of my favorite Ubuntu/Gnome or KDE ones, ..they are just a 'click' away! ...combine all this with the highly configurable (eye-candy) e17 and WOW, ...very nice!

...this could turn into an addiction!

Ash

PS: Keep in mind, gOS (green operating system) IS (at the time of this post) Alpha Software (definition: a first release of a software product that is usually tested only by the developers)!

[mips]

the only thing I am worried about is what actually goes into these computers...
why would they sell ultra cheap computers if they are not to have six million flaws in them?
sorry I rather buy from a OEM like HP then go with a nobody like this, heck I would sooner buy from system 76 then buy this as at least they have a decent rep.
but no bargain basement stuff.

Everex has been around for many years if I'm not mistaken. They are no HP but they are also not some garage operation. I saw two old Everex pcs about a month ago. Maybe they are new to the US market ?

[jviscosi]

Everex has been around for many years if I'm not mistaken. They are no HP but they are also not some garage operation. I saw two old Everex pcs about a month ago. Maybe they are new to the US market ?

No, they've been here for a long time. I remember their ads in the old Computer Shopper in the mid-90s when CS was still as big as a phone book and all the Dell ads still had "featured artists" doing their renditions of the logo. They've never been a major player though.

Here's a timeline from their web site:


History
Originally founded in 1983, Everex shipped its first hard drive, tape backup and graphics product and completed its first year with an astonishing $1.9 million in revenues. Seven years later, with an ever expanding product line, annual revenues totaled over $436 million and the workforce topped 2,200 employees in offices located in the United States, Canada, Great Britain, France, Australia, Taiwan and Hong Kong. In 1985, Everex began shipping personal computers under private labels. Three years later the STEP computer line launched, introducing cutting-edge 286 and 386-based computing to a mass audience. Since then, over 40,000 resellers have purchased the Tempo™, AGI™, Abaton™ and eXplora™ product lines. In addition to computer systems, high-performance file servers and a UNIX-based operating system, the company produced tape drives, graphics boards, data and fax modems, memory enhancement products, network boards, desktop publishing products, disk drive and tape driver controllers and monitors.
http://www.everex.com/corporate%20info/Everex%20-%20history4a%20-%20small.jpg (http://www.everex.com/nc1500/everex%20-%20history4a.htm)
24 Years after its inception, Everex continues to redefine the computing industry by provide customers throughout the world with high-quality, high-performance products.

Time Line
1983 - Everex Founded in Fremont, California USA
1984 - First Everex Hard Disk Drive Shipped
1985 - $1.9 Million Annual Revenue Reported
1986 - 286-Based STEP Line of Computers Launched
1987 - Everex IPO under NASDAW "EVRX"
1989 - 40,000 Worldwide Everex Resellers
1989 - Everex Excel Tape Backup wins PC Magazine "Editors Choice" Award
1990 - MacUser awards the Everex Abaton "Editors Choice"
1991 - $436 Million Annual Revenue Reported
1991 - Computer Reseller News ranks Everex #1 in Customer Satisfaction
1993 - Everex Purchased by Formosa Plastics Group
1994 - The Wall Street Journal lists Everex Amongst the most Reliable Computers
1995 - PC WORLD ranks the Everex STep SP/100 #1 in Performance PCs
1998 - Everex Launches FreeStyle, the World's First Windows® CE PDA
1999 - Best Buy first carries Everex eXplora PCs
2000 - Home Shopping Network resells Everex product on Nation-Wide Television
2005 - Sam's Club teams with Everex to supply eXplora PCs in 576 outlets throughout the US
2006 - Everex achieves record sales with 186-store, Taiwan retailer TK3C
2006 - Wal-Mart carries Everex PCs in 2,300 US locations
2006 - Office Max sells ultra-light Everex StepNote SA2050T
2006 - The New York Times touts the energy-effecient StepNote NC1500 as "a breath of fresh air..."
2007 - Circuit City teams with Everex to launch first Windows Vista notebooks
2007 - The Everex StepNote SA2053T wins PC World "Top 10 Ultraportable Laptop" award
2007 - Everex teams with OpenOffice.org to offer first PC with open source productivity suite sold in major US retailers


© Everex 1983 - 2007. Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License".

[eljoeb]

The product page at Wal-Mart finally has reviews and ratings from people who AREN'T Windows trolls. About time ...

But does it have reviews from people who are neither Windows trolls or Linux shills?

Are these computers available at the stores yet? I'm passing one by every day and thinking about taking a peek in. Could be cool to have.

[jviscosi]

It does have some reviews by people who don't appear to be Linux shills. Wal-Mart supposedly vets customer reviews for appropriateness so one would hope they can tell who's reviewing the product and who's reviewing their own OS religion, although the evidence suggests they'll just post any old thing people write.

[loadeddreams]

sorry I didn't want to read through all 18 pages.. but have your parent received this box yet? I'm considering getting one for my mother. She's used windows for a long time and I'm getting kind of tired of fixing her machine all the time... lol. it seems to get worse exponentially.

I'd just buy this and mix and match parts :)
and/or did you try out gOS and what are your opinions? I haven't the time / effort to try it for myself in the near future.

[n3tfury]

It does have some reviews by people who don't appear to be Linux shills. Wal-Mart supposedly vets customer reviews for appropriateness so one would hope they can tell who's reviewing the product and who's reviewing their own OS religion, although the evidence suggests they'll just post any old thing people write.

lol, walmart has no clue about OS alliance. don't even go there.

[orochics]

Some info on the motherboard/gOS here

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5305482907.html

[w7kmc]

Well,

I noticed today that the online Walmart site is showing this PC as out of stock online, AND it is out of stock at the nearest store within 100 miles. Anybody actually get theirs yet? There are a ton or reviews on the site...but the information does not seem tangible, ie, not from an actual user. I guess it may be a lost cause in trying to get one of these for christmas....

[orochics]

i bought one online and set it to be shipped to my local walmart, its due in next monday or so. I have seen it swing online as in stock and out of stock online. Im guessing it just hasnt been released to the stores yet or somethin. But yea, that many positive feedback's makes me wonder.

And if it turns out it is out of stock, you can build about the same system for ~$165(plus shipping and tax or whatever) from that site thats selling the mobo

[RAV TUX]

My Father received his gPC I bought him on Tuesday...he received the monitor yesterday.

I walked him through the setup and everything is running great for him....he loves it!

this is his very first computer...

just to verify it does come with a keyboard, mouse and speakers...

but no monitor...

If Walmart has already sold out of stock this is a very positive sign...

btw somewhere there is a list of Walmart stores that carry the gPC in stock.

[Frak]

w00t, we're getting gPC's at our local Wal-Mart. :)

[Caffeine_Junky]

My Father received his gPC I bought him on Tuesday...he received the monitor yesterday.

I walked him through the setup and everything is running great for him....he loves it!

this is his very first computer...

just to verify it does come with a keyboard, mouse and speakers...

but no monitor...

Good to hear RAV TUX!!

I will be interested to see a review from one of our Forum members who has purchased one of these gPC computer packages ...

I am very curious as to the "out of the box experience", and to know if all the necessary/ basic functions such as a "audio volume adjuster" and a "main control panel" for quick access from the desktop to all the system settings etc, is implemented in a very "user friendly" manner..

I assume that the "finished commercial product" will be quite a bit different from the "free version" of gOS that is available for download on the internet...

I as a linux user care how the General Public "The Masses" (i.e: people that have used Windows and Mac etc), .. can adopt a new "intended for mainstream use Operating System", and embrace it (linux gOS) as a serious alternative to the afore mentioned well established products.

I know this topic has been bashed to death, ...but ..seriously, ... I want Computer users around the globe (average users) to love what linux has to offer, and find it know harder to use than any other Operating system in "main stream" circulation.

In being (seemingly) associated with a "massive universal internet identity /household name" such as Google, all eyes will be on this new linux distro', and I for one, would hate to see any negativity cast over the linux project on the very public world stage!

The linux community and especially THIS linux/Ubuntu community deserves to be very well represented on the world stage.

The kind, courteous and selfless acts that people in this community commit every hour of every day towards helping others, is nothing short of OUT STANDING!

K, i'm-done... */me steps down off soap box*
:)

[jimrz]

what took you so long ... it's been available almost all day ;)

Rav ... hope you did not misunderstand, only intended to joke about an OEM linux box with e17 being available ALMOST all day before you ordered one and posted here.

btw ... how is the new box working out and how are your folks reacting to their new world?

[tripinva]

What hardware is in this thing? Could someone post lspci or something? I'd be curious to know specifics.

- Trip

[Caffeine_Junky]

Dose anyone know what the "Minimum system Requirements" would be for the gOS Operating System??

[Syke]

What hardware is in this thing? Could someone post lspci or something? I'd be curious to know specifics.

- Trip

00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. PT890 Host Bridge
00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
00:0a.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems Unknown device 0620
00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)
00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
00:13.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)

[sanitycheck]

gOS is fine, but it's too gnome-like for my taste. I can understand why they used it in place of Xubuntu, because it's pretty...and pretty sells computers. Vista is pretty; too bad it's unusable.

I tried to convert gOS to kubuntu-desktop but that made a bizarre but semi-usable mess of things. A fresh kubuntu 7.10 install made everything just right.

The exception is the video driver, because the stock openchrome driver doesn't work in Gutsy (bug report had been filed already; apparently it did work in feisty). Fortunately, someone came up with the magic fix script:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=485646

So when you get tired of gOS and try to install kubuntu-desktop, or try to do a fresh kubuntu 7.10 install, keep that in mind. It's initially going to drop you off with a slow vesa driver. gOS obviously addressed the broken openchrome driver in some other way. I think that some-other-way was what made the kubuntu-desktop a challenge to install, a challenge I didn't bother to pursue.

I don't know what was being used in gOS, but YouTube videos seem to look better in Kubuntu Gutsy (once all the proper restricted packages and drivers are installed, of course). I think I have the resolution set higher with this Kubuntu Gutsy setup, so that may be why.

Kubuntu runs about as well as gOS with the stock 512 Mb, but then I haven't pushed it that hard. I will be throwing in an additional 1 Gb stick as soon as the mailman brings it to me.

The system comes with a re-installation DVD. I assume it just blasts everything back to stock gOS in one pass.

[telic]

Ubuntu has been my primary OS since May, but I keep a Windows XP partition for when I need to call my ISP for technical support, because they're certified only for Microsoft and Macintosh.

What recourse do the non-techie Wal-Mart gPC masses have when their ISP says, "Sorry, we can't help with your Web connection issues because we don't speak gOS"?

:confused:

[sanitycheck]

"Sorry, we can't help with your Web connection issues because we don't speak gOS"?

If you have two known-good computers and they both do not work, the trouble is either the router (if using one) or the Internet connection. The chance that two workstations develop network problems simultaneously is slim.

Many ISPs expect their users to have Linksys routers, so they will direct them to log in and ask them what they see. The connection status window will tell them if they (the router) is getting an address.

If the problem really is the computer, the ISP support isn't going to be much help anyway even if it is a Windows computer. Many Windows Internet connection problems are caused by viruses or spyware; something an ISP can't fix over the phone. If it's a hardware problem, again the ISP isn't going to be much help.

I'd like to point out that the Everex TC2502 has an 800 support # on the case, so they may (should) be able to pick up troubleshooting where the ISP leaves off.

[TheThinker]

I'm currently using Everex's gPC as part of my Environmental Sociology's assignment concerning the EJ issues surrounding various products. So...should I throw a wrench into people's newfound love for the gPC? Yes. Yes I will!

First of all, in 1993 Everex was purchased by the Formosa Plastics Group, a major manufactuer of electronics situated in Taiwan. You can see Everex's "Time Line" here:

http://www.everex.com/corporate%20info/corporate%20info.htm

and the history of FPG here:

http://www.fpg.com.tw/html/eng/his.htm

Of course, these are just the sugar-coated histories presented by these companies. If you want the dirty-gritty and UGLY history try this:

http://www.american.edu/TED/camwaste.htm

and this:

http://www.taiwanheadlines.gov.tw/ct.asp?xItem=94090&CtNode=25.

For a more complete history of FPG, I've found this:

http://www.answers.com/topic/formosa-plastics-corporation?cat=biz-fin

I don't claim to be using a perfectly environmentally-friendly product, so please don't throw eggs at me. I just feel it's important that people do their own research before blindly buying a company's so-called "Green" image.

Putting that aside, a low-power and cost-effective PC is certainly much "greener" than many of the alternatives I've seen, unless the manufacturing methods offset that benefit.

[kagashe]

I visited Walmart online stores just out of curiosity. It is also selling the same hardware with 1024 MB RAM (gPC has 512 MB RAM) with Windows Vista for $100 more and it is available ex-stock.

Does it mean there are no buyers for Windows PC?

Why Everest is unable to manage the supplies if they have the hardware?

kagashe

[NothingtoGein]

Does anyone know how to get into networking on g0S. I downloaded the OS today and LOVE it. Only problem is I can't get online. I've downloaded ndiswrapper followed all the steps until the part where you get to networking. I don't know how to access this. Can anyone help?

[telic]

From DesktopLinux.com (http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8642294935.html)...

Everex will also be expanding where you'll be able to get the TC2502 as more PCs become available. Kim said that the computer is now available from the online Linux system reseller ZaReason (http://www.zareason.com/shop/home.php). ZaReason currently has TC2502s available for sale (http://www.zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16160). The reseller also offers Wi-Fi and memory upgrade options, up to 2GBs, for its TC2502 systems.

NewEgg (http://www.newegg.com/), an online PC and technology retailer, will also have some of these PCs soon. "By the weekend, newegg.com will have stock as well," Kim added.

http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8642294935.html

[FSHero]

Any chance of this coming to the UK?

I'd love to tinker with this!

[Caffeine_Junky]

Any chance of this coming to the UK?

I'd love to tinker with this!

I did a bit of Goggling, but found no mention of the gPC being available in the UK..

Try asking your question at: http://www.faqly.com/faq/view/id/34
maybe someone there can give you some insight

If you would like to try the Operating System (gOS) try the Download section at: http://thinkgos.com/

cheers

[mellowd]

I would be very interested in getting one to replace my lamp server as its always on

[RAV TUX]

Does anyone know how to get into networking on g0S. I downloaded the OS today and LOVE it. Only problem is I can't get online. I've downloaded ndiswrapper followed all the steps until the part where you get to networking. I don't know how to access this. Can anyone help?
Post your question at the gOS Official forum:

http://www.cafelinux.org/gosforum/

[RAV TUX]

I would be very interested in getting one to replace my lamp server as its always on

they are in stock here:

http://www.zareason.com/shop/home.php

Q Do you ship internationally?

A Yes, we do ship internationally and the flags show which countries we have received the most emails from. We are currently shipping to Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. We cover all of the US, including FPO and APO addresses. We are working anxiously to get approval for shipping to the EU.

Please email us at shipping@zareason.com (shoutout@zareason.com) if you want us to ship to your location. We are eager to support you with solid hardware. Rav ... hope you did not misunderstand, only intended to joke about an OEM linux box with e17 being available ALMOST all day before you ordered one and posted here.

btw ... how is the new box working out and how are your folks reacting to their new world?

I understood your humor. ;)

My parents LOVE! their gOS gPC...especially my Dad he loves PokerTH (http://www.pokerth.net/)!

[mips]

I would be very interested in getting one to replace my lamp server as its always on

Another option might be to build your own. It uses this motherboard, http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives/empowered/pc2500_mainboard/index.jsp

There are other options as well, http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives/empowered/sys-platform_arch.jsp#pc1_platform

Edit:
Ok, I just found out there is a PC distributed in SA using the exact same motherboard, R300-400 more though but you have to weigh this up against shipping, duties & VAT charges when you import.
http://www.mecer.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=77&Itemid=63
http://digitalcart.co.za/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=35&products_id=406&osCsid=734c974beafff9c53ae2a8fb91062ae1

[mellowd]

Another option might be to build your own. It uses this motherboard, http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives/empowered/pc2500_mainboard/index.jsp

There are other options as well, http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives/empowered/sys-platform_arch.jsp#pc1_platform

Edit:
Ok, I just found out there is a PC distributed in SA using the exact same motherboard, R300-400 more though but you have to weigh this up against shipping, duties & VAT charges when you import.
http://www.mecer.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=77&Itemid=63
http://digitalcart.co.za/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=35&products_id=406&osCsid=734c974beafff9c53ae2a8fb91062ae1

I'm not in SA now though :) I'm in England. I'm going to try and source the seperate parts out though and see what I can find. It would be nice to have one as a media centre as well.

Thanks for the info!

[mellowd]

And actually, just looking at that digitalcart site. Since when is a dollar still worth almost R10. Another ripoff! Same thing happens here in England, for some reason importers go along the lines of $1=€1 so we get grossly overcharged :(

[mips]

And actually, just looking at that digitalcart site. Since when is a dollar still worth almost R10. Another ripoff! Same thing happens here in England, for some reason importers go along the lines of $1=€1 so we get grossly overcharged :(

Yeah we get ripped off. Thats why I buy most things from distributors because after a dealer puts their markup on the item it is crazy expensive.

Just google for VIA pc-1 and you should find some stuff.
http://www.overclock.co.uk/dept/VIA-PC1_275.html
http://www.cramcomputers.co.uk/dept/VIA-PC1_275.html
http://www.internetreadypcs.co.uk/dept/VIA-PC1_275.html

[rzrgenesys187]

I was wondering if anybody new how well this this computer worked with other distros. I've been planning on getting a cheap computer to mess around with and this one seems very good if everything works well with other distros.

[Frak]

I was wondering if anybody new how well this this computer worked with other distros. I've been planning on getting a cheap computer to mess around with and this one seems very good if everything works well with other distros.
Fine for me. All of its components are compatible.