Best Ubuntu fork/derivative?

[akiratheoni]

Other than Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, and Gobuntu what do you think the best Ubuntu fork is?

Here's a list of Ubuntu derivatives:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu-based_distributions

Some examples:
Ubuntu Studio
Freespire
Linux Mint
Mythbuntu

So far I've found Linux Mint to be really good for novice users, and from what I've tried on VirtualBox, Fluxbuntu looks very, very promising.

[Incense]

Mint FTW! :guitar:

[Vadi]

Ubuntu Studio, but otherwise I'd say Kubuntu.

[Antman]

Mint FTW! :guitar:

Agreed.... Mint is great if you are looking for a Ubuntu based distro.

[new2*buntu]

Mint FTW! :guitar:

Mint! :guitar:

[init1]

Antix. Definitely. It's mepis based, so it's not directly Ubuntu based. Still the best though.

[igknighted]

Antix. Definitely. It's mepis based, so it's not directly Ubuntu based. Still the best though.

Thats a cousin, not a (grand)child. There's no line back from Mepis to Ubuntu. Mepis is based directly off of Debian.

I would have to vote for Mint. Mint is a tremendously polished and focused distribution. I don't use it... but I certainly respect it. Also Fluxbuntu is really nice.

[anticapitalista]

Actually the old antiX Spartacus uses the Ubuntu Dapper repos (as well as Mepis ones).
The new antiX Lysistrata is Debian + Mepis based.

BTW Mepis appeared well before Ubuntu.

[-grubby]

I think mint takes the cake

[jayson.rowe]

Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu are not forks are - they are all Ubuntu...

No different that clicking the button to choose Desktop Environment in the installers of more "bloated" distros, such as Suse or Fedora - Kubuntu is nothing more than Ubuntu w/ KDE and Xubuntu is nothing more than Ubuntu w/ XFCE.

Mint, Freespire/Linspire, Pioneer Linux, etc., are Ubuntu BASED distros - which means they are forks...

BTW - regarding MEPIS - it was originally Debian based, then for 6.5 it was Ubuntu Dapper Based - now they are flopping back over to Debian (Etch) for Stable...

[init1]

Thats a cousin, not a (grand)child. There's no line back from Mepis to Ubuntu. Mepis is based directly off of Debian.

I would have to vote for Mint. Mint is a tremendously polished and focused distribution. I don't use it... but I certainly respect it. Also Fluxbuntu is really nice.
The newer versions are Debian based, but the version that Antix is based on was based on Dapper.

[akiratheoni]

Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu are not forks are - they are all Ubuntu...

No different that clicking the button to choose Desktop Environment in the installers of more "bloated" distros, such as Suse or Fedora - Kubuntu is nothing more than Ubuntu w/ KDE and Xubuntu is nothing more than Ubuntu w/ XFCE.

Mint, Freespire/Linspire, Pioneer Linux, etc., are Ubuntu BASED distros - which means they are forks...

BTW - regarding MEPIS - it was originally Debian based, then for 6.5 it was Ubuntu Dapper Based - now they are flopping back over to Debian (Etch) for Stable...

Well, if I didn't list those as exceptions, everyone would have picked Kubuntu and Xubuntu and the like...

[FredB]

Fluxbuntu ;)

[karellen]

Mint

[kazuya]

Mint is the First choice here.

Then comes Mepis, and ubuntu Studio.

[amiga_os]

I know this is going against the grain slightly... but I think Nexenta is definitely the most exciting.

Pitching open solaris alongside linux will be good for open solaris, and good for linux. Competition creates innovation, and hopefully we may even eventually see a stable driver API for Linux.

The kernel could be the last major part of my GNU system where I currently don't have any real "choice". Nexenta could change all that.

So... while at the moment it's not a great os per se, for what it is, what it symbolises, what it could be and what it will do to the open source market - I think Nexenta is the best Ubuntu Derivative!

[Gilson]

Linux Mint :).

[igknighted]

I know this is going against the grain slightly... but I think Nexenta is definitely the most exciting.

Pitching open solaris alongside linux will be good for open solaris, and good for linux. Competition creates innovation, and hopefully we may even eventually see a stable driver API for Linux.

The kernel could be the last major part of my GNU system where I currently don't have any real "choice". Nexenta could change all that.

So... while at the moment it's not a great os per se, for what it is, what it symbolises, what it could be and what it will do to the open source market - I think Nexenta is the best Ubuntu Derivative!

+1, Nexenta is very promising. IIRC they even use the human theme, yes?

[santiagoward2000]

Fluxbuntu ;)

Although I couldn't get used to Fluxbox, I must say Fluxbuntu was quite impressive!
I haven't tried Mint yet...

[67GTA]

Mint (preferably KDE version)

[akiratheoni]

I know this is going against the grain slightly... but I think Nexenta is definitely the most exciting.

Pitching open solaris alongside linux will be good for open solaris, and good for linux. Competition creates innovation, and hopefully we may even eventually see a stable driver API for Linux.

The kernel could be the last major part of my GNU system where I currently don't have any real "choice". Nexenta could change all that.

So... while at the moment it's not a great os per se, for what it is, what it symbolises, what it could be and what it will do to the open source market - I think Nexenta is the best Ubuntu Derivative!

Wow, that looks really promising; I can't wait to try it out.

[Sorivenul]

While preferring Ubuntu, Mint is a first-runner-up for me.
I'd also have to give a second +1 to Nexenta.

[wolfen69]

my vote goes to mint.

[metalf8801]

Ubuntu Ultimate Edition or Linux Mint KDE once they work the bugs out

[SunnyRabbiera]

Mint (preferably KDE version)

well even the gnome version of mint is pretty sweet.

[Misbah]

Linux Mint. Elegance from freedom right? One of the best 'out of the box' comprehensive, complete, and just works ubuntu based distros.

With FreeSpire as a close follow up.

Never looked into nexenta, but it sounds interesting...

[Ripfox]

Ubuntu Christian Edition sends mint to hell.

lol

[vishzilla]

Linux Mint KDE/GNOME

[maniheer]

OpenGEU looks nice

[notwen]

+1 Mint

[DouglasAWh]

Ubuntu Christian Edition sends mint to hell.

lol

Right, but Ubuntu Satanic Edition will sacrifice them both with goats and eat the burning, rotting feces...or something like that.

[dgoodma]

Mint

[GrueTamer]

I'll vote Maryan. Underdogs rule.

[Saint Angeles]

ubuntu is the best fork of ubuntu.

try hardy beta. it will blow your socks off.

[zoe-scutterbug]

played with every fork, variation and cutlery and me thinks for pure panache opengeu is my personal favourite.

zoe

[tvtech]

if your a network admin Nubuntu (http://www.nubuntu.org/)

it's a pen test distro of ubuntu... I think it's no longer under development though

[chris4585]

How come i havent seen Crunchbang on here yet?? i figured i'd be the 3rd of 4th person to repeat Crunchbang, guess not. Crunchbang is Ubuntu + openbox and done right :)

[Thundera]

Ubuntu Studio, but otherwise I'd say Kubuntu.

Wait, Ubuntu Studio, whats this? Is this as in like Music Studio, or Video/Graphics? Or is it a studio for all the arts?

[chris4585]

Wait, Ubuntu Studio, whats this? Is this as in like Music Studio, or Video/Graphics? Or is it a studio for all the arts?

http://ubuntustudio.org/

never tried it, but a lot of people seem to like Ubuntu Studio

[Saint Angeles]

http://ubuntustudio.org/

never tried it, but a lot of people seem to like Ubuntu Studio
it uses the realtime kernel for low latency recording... i could not get the ati drivers working with it and i got all kinds of random freezes so i'm back to the generic kernel.

you could always install the correct packages to regular ubuntu to make it just like ubuntu studio.

[athaki]

I like just plain old Ubuntu.

[myusername]

fluxbuntu and xubuntu are the best

[Thundera]

Lol, Thundera will rock your socks off upon completion!

[mips]

I would say Mint or Ubuntu Studio.

Someone should actually take ubuntu studio and remaster it with a buch of games then you would have everything on one dvd you could have. Some might complain about bloat but I know many people that like Ubuntu Ultimate gamers edition and Studio would be a very good start for a Ultimate edition.

[init1]

Mepis, it's the only distro (I've tried many) that actually recognizes my hardware

[mips]

Mepis, it's the only distro (I've tried many) that actually recognizes my hardware

I thought Mepis went back to Debian?

[bharath1097]

gos space

[Thundera]

Ewwww! gOS did a dumb thing making it all about myspace, who needs all those tools, when I can just go log on right now and click some buttons?


EDIT: NEVERMIND I FORGOT THIS WAS UBUNTU DERIVATIVES OOPS>

[Calash]

Mythbuntu

Mythbuntu Control Centre (MCC) alsone makes it work picking for any PVR setup. Drop OpenSSH on it and you never have to use a keyboard again.

Worked with my system with no headaches.

[molom]

OpenSUSE for me

[Rui Pais]

Other than Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, and Gobuntu what do you think the best Ubuntu fork is?

Here's a list of Ubuntu derivatives:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu-based_distributions

Some examples:
Ubuntu Studio
Freespire
Linux Mint
Mythbuntu

So far I've found Linux Mint to be really good for novice users, and from what I've tried on VirtualBox, Fluxbuntu looks very, very promising.

That comparison don't make much sense since most of them serve different purposes or have different goals.
At most most one could compare all gnome based, all kde based, etc...

Saying wich it's best plain Ubuntu or Fluxbox it's like deciding whats best orange or apples? the answer it's: submarines.
:)



OpenSUSE for me

OpenSUSE don't look much as an Ubuntu derivative, molom ;)

[Rui Pais]

<Mint rant>
There's a lot of Mint++ posts on this thread...
Never understand the Mint thing :(
How can an Ubuntu derivative, offering so little difference, without even a 64bits version :shocked: have so much hip ?!...
</Mint rant>

[molom]

@Rui
I know its not ubuntu, just wanted to see if anyone would state straightaway that its not and say how much of a newbie I am :)

@Rui again
Lets talk about Mint. After being kicked out of the forums, I still believe its a nice community. Let me state the differences between ubuntu:
- Its based on Edgy, therefore a fork
- It has a various amount of apps that are exclusive to mint, but are GPL, its just not many people use them on other distros. There are some that are useful like the mint menu and the mint install, but the rest I find to be bogus. And they are slow apps because they are based on python.
- The theme is preferred by others, after using the theme, I hate it, looks like a childrens theme.
- All codecs and flash are installed, therefore more outofbox thingy. Makes it easier for newbies, I had trouble when I wanted to install flash and last year I still had troubles with flash, but after some research I now know.
- Its way more friendlier in terms of being an out of box experience, I codecs were pre-installed in ubuntu, I doubt Mint would exist for more than a year. Mint is just so newbie. You will never get a 60 year old newbie being able to install flash on ubuntu. (This is a reason why people head for mint, people like this would head for mint - http://contentconsumer.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/is-ubuntu-useable-enough-for-my-girlfriend/ )

So, if you have all those codecs and flash pre-installed on OZOS, it will get your distro far more popular, because newbies love heading for mint. Installed and ready. Mintinstall is a very friendly way to install apps, which is very favoured by newbies, a lot like the new system Aubrey is making for OZOS, but it has screenshots and specific descriptions and comments, which make it far more popular than the Apt:foo system. Even though Apt:foo is far more cleaner and less troubling.

As a summary, its just a very newbie version of Ubuntu. Lets just call it the Mac OS of Linux but more Windows XP looking.

Hope you understand :)
Its a newbie distro, If ubuntu had codecs preinstalled, I would only see Mint as an ubuntu + green theme + some apps .
Thats about it

Cheers,
molom

[stinger30au]

ultimate edition

http://ultimateedition.info/

[Rui Pais]

@Rui
I know its not ubuntu, just wanted to see if anyone would state straightaway that its not and say how much of a newbie I am :)

I fell like a duck :lol:
(An expression i'm not sure it exists in Engligh...)



@Rui again
Lets talk about Mint. After being kicked out of the forums, I still believe its a nice community. Let me state the differences between ubuntu:
- Its based on Edgy, therefore a fork
- It has a various amount of apps that are exclusive to mint, but are GPL, its just not many people use them on other distros. There are some that are useful like the mint menu and the mint install, but the rest I find to be bogus. And they are slow apps because they are based on python.
- The theme is preferred by others, after using the theme, I hate it, looks like a childrens theme.
- All codecs and flash are installed, therefore more outofbox thingy. Makes it easier for newbies, I had trouble when I wanted to install flash and last year I still had troubles with flash, but after some research I now know.
- Its way more friendlier in terms of being an out of box experience, I codecs were pre-installed in ubuntu, I doubt Mint would exist for more than a year. Mint is just so newbie. You will never get a 60 year old newbie being able to install flash on ubuntu. (This is a reason why people head for mint, people like this would head for mint - http://contentconsumer.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/is-ubuntu-useable-enough-for-my-girlfriend/ )

Yes it looks a great community!
But I remember to read some post from the days you mention about e17 edition and, sorry, the main dev looked/sounded a lot to me a very arrogant guy... (but lets not go OT, that is just my personal opinion)

All points you mention look more to me reason against than in favor.
Why anyone would want **all** codecs installed?
And extra apps? i find most apps on plain ubuntu extras and i delete them! More extras!?!
I plainly don't like most dists assume that users should have all installed, apparently implying users are dummy idiots that can't type sudo install <something>. I'm fell offended by that, as a user.

But it's a good thing that they develop such apps, and under GPL. It's excellent for all to have a lot of choice to pick around!

But my "rant" it's, of course, just a joke, not to take seriously ;)
The only thing i find really bad it's the total absence of a 64bits.
All cpus sold today are 64bits (or should be).
There's no reason to have 7 (seven!!) download versions on Download page (http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php) and not a single 64 bits.
If people wouldn't advise to install and use a i386 kernel on 686 boxs, as example, because it's old and obsolete, why recommend i686 for x86_64 cpus?
I even found a thread on Mint Forum, filled with FUD, saying 64bits it's not ready, there are few apps for it (ok one can laugh on ignorance) and would be to hard to do!
It's just apply the same patchs to Ubuntu 64bits to make a 64bits Mint (Thats what i do for OzOS). Devs laziness?



So, if you have all those codecs and flash pre-installed on OZOS, it will get your distro far more popular, because newbies love heading for mint. Installed and ready. Mintinstall is a very friendly way to install apps, which is very favoured by newbies, a lot like the new system Aubrey is making for OZOS, but it has screenshots and specific descriptions and comments, which make it far more popular than the Apt:foo system. Even though Apt:foo is far more cleaner and less troubling.

Sorry but i have to disagree.
1st it would be against OzOS philosophy/project. We try to keep default apps to a very minimal. Install stuff it's extremely easy on Linux.
Again why all codecs? for what purpose?
Why should I impose to users proprietary stuff they may disapprove or codecs that may even violate the laws of they country?
On OzOS when a user run some media file, if codec it's not installed it install it automatically. Only the needed ones and after user choice and acceptance. Same for Flash.
And user don't even need to know what apt/synaptic/aptfoo is.

If you search Cafelinux Forum or the OzOS threads on Ubuntu Forum you realize that not one single time the issue arose. It's a false problem :)
(Of course, if you say to get that i need to stick with totem, a weak app, i agree completely! Thats the price to pay. But user can install other media player he like more anytime...)



As a summary, its just a very newbie version of Ubuntu. Lets just call it the Mac OS of Linux but more Windows XP looking.

Hope you understand :)
Its a newbie distro, If ubuntu had codecs preinstalled, I would only see Mint as an ubuntu + green theme + some apps .
Thats about it

Cheers,
molom
Great. Thank for clarification molom!
(btw, again, i was just being provocative. No real rant ;))

[molom]

@Rui
I don't feel offended ;)
I love hearing people's opinions :)
I don't use Linux Mint anymore, I'm starting to like a plain ubuntu with codecs installed myself. OpenSUSE gnome style :)

Cheers,
molom

[akiratheoni]

That comparison don't make much sense since most of them serve different purposes or have different goals.
At most most one could compare all gnome based, all kde based, etc...

Saying wich it's best plain Ubuntu or Fluxbox it's like deciding whats best orange or apples? the answer it's: submarines.
:)


I do realize this (wow, this is an old thread, I've completely forgotten about it)

Perhaps it should be renamed "Your favorite Ubuntu fork/derivative", no? More appropriate methinks.

[Rui Pais]

@Rui
I don't feel offended ;)
I love hearing people's opinions :)

I know, my friend :)
I was thinking on Mint adepts that propose it on the beginning of thread that wouldn't know me and may be lead to think i was trolling it...
(Sometimes i laugh when i type, but laugh don't appear on posts, so, just to be cautious :))


I don't use Linux Mint anymore, I'm starting to like a plain ubuntu with codecs installed myself. OpenSUSE gnome style :)

Cheers,
molom
But you still use Maryan Linux didn't you ?!



I do realize this (wow, this is an old thread, I've completely forgotten about it)

Perhaps it should be renamed "Your favorite Ubuntu fork/derivative", no? More appropriate methinks.
I was just being mean with you ;)
This threads are always interesting because people always discover new variations or unknown things about what was already known :)

[molom]

But you still use Maryan Linux didn't you ?!


The stable version isn't available yet, I will be using Maryan when its stable. I don't like at all using Beta's or even RC's for my native system boot. I use betas and RC's with a virtual machine or LiveCD