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ubuntu_demon
November 24th, 2004, 12:00 AM
Unifying Linux Package Management :

http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/04/11/23/1835258.shtml?tid=190&tid=185&tid=106

Job Diogenes Ribeiro Borges writes "The Smart Package Manager is an intelligent tool that works on the 'dependency hell' of software upgrading and installation on linux. Works with all major distributions (APT, APT-RPM, YUM, URPMI, etc), supporting multiple sources and technologies concurrently. Yes, you could install from multiple sources, from deb, rpm, tgz at same time! Smart Package Manager is being developed by Conectiva and is the tool that makes the Magic of CrossPlatform package management, behind the recently announced 'Four Linux Vendors Agree On An LSB Implementation.' You can get screenshots here (portuguese texts) and a README here."

Will/should ubuntu do something with this ?

jdong
November 24th, 2004, 02:33 AM
Err, cool concept, but never going to work in real life.

The truth is that each distro's packages like to install things in different places -- take a look at where Fedora installs Firefox versus Debian. Things are bound to be screwed up sooner or later!

ubuntu_demon
November 24th, 2004, 02:54 AM
Maybe the algorithms are worth looking at? According to the readme and the case studies they show they've got better algorithms.

pdamoc
November 24th, 2004, 02:16 PM
http://0install.net/

now that's something I would like to see Ubuntu using but... I doubt it will ever be accepted.

ZeroInstall has been around for some time and I have absolutly no clue why isn't it used.

mark
November 25th, 2004, 04:39 PM
Err, cool concept, but never going to work in real life.

The truth is that each distro's packages like to install things in different places -- take a look at where Fedora installs Firefox versus Debian. Things are bound to be screwed up sooner or later! jdong - sshhhh! Don't tell anybody! Maybe they won't notice that it "can't be done" and they'll go ahead and do it! ;-)

retype
December 13th, 2004, 12:34 PM
They have done it Smart PM (http://www.smartpm.org/) but you can't mix fedora and debian packages, but you can use it in both fedora and debian. I have used it in ubuntu and it works nicely.

panickedthumb
December 13th, 2004, 06:20 PM
I'd like to see more synchronization between distributions (like installing things in the same place, for example) so that stuff like this would work much better. That's the only way unified package management will ever work.

Lovechild
December 13th, 2004, 06:35 PM
To mimic a known statement:

STANDARDS, STANDARDS, STANDARDS!!!

EdCrypt
December 13th, 2004, 10:53 PM
Notice that this project is not a magical bridge between every distribution in the planet. Instead, this is a software offering better package management for these distributions, even when working with their own packages
;-)

EdCrypt
December 13th, 2004, 10:58 PM
Err, cool concept, but never going to work in real life.
As was said here, it already works. And is better than apt! Just see the cases studies from the README (http://linux-br.conectiva.com.br/~niemeyer/smart/doc/README.html#case-studies).
Ubuntu really need this.

Paqman
March 4th, 2012, 08:40 AM
an intelligent tool that works on the 'dependency hell' of software upgrading and installation on linux.

Er, sort of trying to solve a problem from the dark ages, isn't it? When was the last time anyone running a modern distro got stuck in dependency hell?

duncan12
March 4th, 2012, 08:51 AM
http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/4/2011/07/standards.png

Too true - let's not make it more complicated :popcorn:

nothingspecial
March 4th, 2012, 09:02 AM
Unfortunately a spammer bumped this thread to the top.

It needs to be put back to sleep.

Closed.