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frodon
October 19th, 2007, 03:20 AM
The purpose of this thread is to share your experience installing/upgrading gutsy.

Did it worked flawlessly ?
Did you got problems ?
Did you manage to solve them ?
if yes how ?
...
...
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Feel free to post your experience here and think to explain how you solved the problems you got, it might help other users in your case.

Thank you for contributing :KS

ElSeeDee
October 19th, 2007, 03:35 AM
Updated through Ubuntu and (after a 13-14 hour process) I rebooted to a new, working version. Yay!

DavidTangye
October 19th, 2007, 04:33 AM
I voted "Upgrade worked flawlessly". I did have to install the restricted nvidia driver, and activate the 3D stuff, but I consider this an 'extra', as the system works ok without it, so I do not count them as issues that 'need' resolving.

DeadEyes
October 19th, 2007, 04:42 AM
Where's the upgrade failed or didn't even get started option. I tried to upgrade through the update manager but the servers are obviously going into meltdown. I'll leave it for a few days now.

zasf
October 19th, 2007, 04:53 AM
I'm going to upgrade right now. I wanted to have a look at the forums in order to know some other's experience before doing it.

Forum staff should encourage people with positive upgrades experience to write on the forum, since I assume only people with bad experiences write posts looking for help and this gives the upgrade a bad impression.

Since dapper, I had overall positive upgrades with only minor problems.

firsttry
October 19th, 2007, 04:58 AM
The upgrade from 7.04 didn't finish, it said it was unable to install libxml-libxml-perl, perl-simple and update-manager. Then it quit. No idea what was going on and scared to reboot, as it had crashed about half-way through installing the files. Then I backed up and rebooted and things were working. Not happy though, don't know if it's a proper upgrade or only half-a-one, though things SEEM to be in order - never got any feedback as to what went wrong from the system, besides that those packages had failed their install.

I installed the perl stuff from cpan and update-manager seems to be up to date, so I don't know what it was going on about.

Also when I pause my mouse on a menu item long enough for the tooltip to appear, I need to wait until the tooltip disappears before another menu item is selected when I hover my mouse over it. Very Annoying(TM).

frodon
October 19th, 2007, 04:59 AM
Forum staff should encourage people with positive upgrades experience to write on the forum, since I assume only people with bad experiences write posts looking for help and this gives the upgrade a bad impression.Yep you're right, that's the limit of such poll in a "support" forum.
Anyway i will forward your request to the staff forum.

inhabit
October 19th, 2007, 05:08 AM
Command line upgrade seemed to go well, but now gnome-panel won't load [even for a fresh user account, not sure if other parts load either], and the kernel parameter vga=791 gives a blank screen while booting [without splash and quiet].

zasf
October 19th, 2007, 05:08 AM
Yep you're right, that's the limit of such poll in a "support" forum.
Anyway i will forward your request to the staff forum.

I'm aware it is not easy, still forum staff is really good :) thanks for your work

dilney
October 19th, 2007, 05:14 AM
I've had no problems (that I can remember) installing and upgrading my Gutsy.

First off, I downloaded the DVD image about 10 days ago with the Release Candidate. Even though I have an Athlon 64 X2, I'm running the i386 binaries because I need the Java plugin to work perfectly for my internet banking*.

After a fresh install, almost everything worked out of the box, including nVidia proprietary drivers and Compiz-Fusion. The only annoying thing was that VirtualBox OSE doesn't work if you just install the packages, but nothing that I couldn't solve with google and 4 copy-and-pasted lines of shell commands.

Finally, I installed all updates that were released since my install. Voilą. Yesterday, before the official release, my system was already running the final Gutsy Gibbon release...

My hardware is as follows:
Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (oc@2.77 GHz)
ASRock 939NF6G Motherboard (nVidia nForce chipset)
3GB DDR400
2 SATA + 1 IDE hard-drives
nVidia 8600GT 512MB

Skardal
October 19th, 2007, 05:32 AM
Upgrade doesn't work.

Found out there is a bug-post about it:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/147429

Edmund0Dantes
October 19th, 2007, 05:32 AM
Upgrade worked fine for me. Only very slight issue i had was that eclispe reverted back to the gcj compiler, but given as i told the istallation procedure to replace my java_home, then that was to be expected.

IMO, the process went fine.

:guitar:

Alchemista1979
October 19th, 2007, 05:33 AM
Where's the upgrade failed or didn't even get started option. I tried to upgrade through the update manager but the servers are obviously going into meltdown. I'll leave it for a few days now.

The upgrade I tried yesterday was extremely slow, I'll try later on today or tomorrow when the servers are less loaded.

GS2
October 19th, 2007, 06:14 AM
The upgrade itself worked - I use Kubuntu so did it the adept way.

However it hosed by wireless settings - of course I backed everything up - but I have not got round to fixing it yet.

Still relatively painless - although next time I'll go back to using the cd I think :)

bapoumba
October 19th, 2007, 06:19 AM
I did a fresh install of one of the Tribes (Tribe2).

There was, along the development cycle, a problem with wireless, that got fixed. Other issues are older bugs not fixed from edgy (palm mount for ex). I used the easy video drivers install process flawlessly (I'm new to using nVidia restricted drivers), all the codecs, and I'll do a fresh install of the final release in the next weeks, to test it out more extensively.

To be noted, I have a very basic desktop use of my computer, and Ubuntu-supported-only repositories.

sicone
October 19th, 2007, 06:33 AM
Decided to go for 64bit gusty on a new partition (kept 32bit feisty just in case). Install went smoothly, but I have no sound, flash player freezes up after about 8-12 secs and dual screen doesn't work properly (desktop is bigger than screen area even though the resolution is lower than max screen size).
I've found guides on how to fix all three problem which I'll try once I get home.
Other than that, looking good so far!

necrolin
October 19th, 2007, 06:34 AM
I had Fiesty working on my HP TX1000, but decided to do a clean install rather than an upgrade. Networking doesn't work at all. Neither the wireless (which I expected as it needs to download a driver) nor the wired connection. Hence no networking at all.

On my other machine I have a dwcom d19 monitor and NVIDIA GeForce 8500. It detects the correct settings for the monitor, but it doesn't work at a resolution above 600x400. The last 3 versions all had issues with this monitor and what used to be a GeForce 6200, including just dropping to a black screen. I was able to fix the past systems, but this one...???

EDIT: Fixed, both computers now running Gutsy flawlessly. Pain in the bum-bum to install, but now that it's working it's very very very nice.

gaupe
October 19th, 2007, 06:38 AM
Just installed feisty for a week ago when i decided to , again, have a go to get linux as my preferred desktop instead of windows xp home which i was running uptil now.

tried suse first but gave so many problems that i decided to look for other distro's
installed feisty and was directly very happy with it.
I see the distros have grown to the point that my wish, having linux as my preferred desktop maybe will be forfiled.

Played a lot with the feisty , tried setting it up to my liking with thought in mind to delete all and then fresh start with the gutsy which was coming in 6 days anyway.

when the 7.10 release came i thought a, lets firs try the upgrade.
That went wonderfully well actually. But since a had upgraded a ,"too much played with install"
i nevertheless deleted all and started a fresh install.

Had some small issues like the keyboard (norwegian) that after some actions sometimes went back to us english (but didnt write down things and i have a bad memory)

have to find out why hibernation does not work right
and would really like to have my ATI mobikity 9700 (according to windows) or ATI mobility 9600 (according to ubuntu) working complete as it does in windows which means all the graphics capabilities and speed. I want to use the s-video out i want to use compiz and i would like google earth to work fast and this all seems to come down on the graphics chip which i cannot change since it is in my laptop.....

anyway I now am on 7.10 like it very much and am really gonna try to have this as my preferred os (dual boot with windows xp ofcourse, but later on maybe only via vmware i hope....)

envoy
October 19th, 2007, 06:41 AM
Upgraded from Feisty.
Issues:
2nd processor ignored (WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached. Processor ignored.)
- Solved: grub puts the i386 kernel on top by default. The generic kernel supports dual core.
Also, I have sound now and wireless works too.

(No sound (can't find anything related being loaded in dmesg)
No wireless (listed in Hardware Information but nothing loaded - 4965AGN))

Nvidia driver seems to work just fine, desktop effects working nicely also

portach king
October 19th, 2007, 06:47 AM
Hi,
Well I decided to do a fresh install (finally got rid of windows), and unfortunately I'm one of the few out there suffering from a black screen at boot-up, followed by an approximate 5 minute wait before Gutsy then suddenly bursts into life.
After that it works fine, but the ambiguity of the black screen however was/is worrying and the boot-time is atrocious. Hopefully, this'll all get fixed very soon!

raptros-v76
October 19th, 2007, 07:06 AM
well, i created a bad upgrade for myself on my desktop. (you know, the kind of scary for a new user thing, which i am not, so i only get annoyed) for instance, seeing something downloading and saying "when did i ever install that?" is probably a bad sign. recommendation to others: dont let your system get messy. having to run several things repeatedly just to get every package to configure is not fun.

my laptop, OTOH, with a fairly standard xubuntu 7.04 install from several months ago, was a clean and easy upgrade.

PokerJoker
October 19th, 2007, 07:18 AM
Extra,new S-ATA disk installed just days before gutsy came out, so fresh install made sense.

ISO dowload from local ftpsite took only ten mins. Had the disk already partitioned and formatted.
For some reason i chose ext2 as filesystem, which turned out Ubuntu doesn't like: Got a message in install when choosing partitions that filesystem has non-compatible options.

Decided to let the Gutsy one do it's own formatting in ext3 and within 30mins i was up and running including dowload of propriatry ATI fglrx driver (meaning no compiz). It even set the proper resolution of 1680x1050 on my 20" LCD automaticaly. It required a reboot, but hey...

Great stuff.

Amorok complained when firing up last.fm about not being able to play mp3, so had to get all the dirty stuff, which took a few mins to download and install, but since then:
:guitar:

I'm impressed and thinking about getting an nVidia 8500 just for kicks (and compiz).

CD Baric
October 19th, 2007, 07:22 AM
New box featuring Asus M2N-VM DVI moboard, AMD Dual Core 4400+ CPU, 2 gigs 800MHz DDR2, onboard nVidia 7050 video with 256 meg shared memory and Hi Def audio.

This same system was initially loaded with Feisty Fawn but there were problems with the video and audio so I held off my client until I could try 7.10 - VERY PLEASED!

After DLing by torrent and burningto CD the installation was perfect including installing the correct nVidia video driver.

Thanks Team Gutsy Gibbon - Very Well Done!

CD Baric

Smittey
October 19th, 2007, 07:25 AM
My upgrade completely failed.

The first thing I tried was upgrading through the Update Manager. After a long wait it reterned complaining it didn“t download all the packages.

Second try was restarting through the Update Manager (servers can be full, I can understand), then the update manager just stayed "not responding" after pressing the button.

I tried a few more times where both the update mnanager would not respond or the downloads would simply stop coming in.

Then I downloaded the alernate CD and tried through that path. First it suggested to upgrade through the internet but then the files would not come in again. So I restarted again and tried directly from the CD. Preparations went okay, it even came up with the fact that certain packages are not supported anymore, but then it failed on 'adjusting the software channels" saying that there was an unknown error and I should report it together with certain files from the I believe /etc/upgrade directory and it reverted.

Tried again through the Update Manager but now from the Dutch servers and switched off all 3rd party sources, but it was on all all night long but still the files did not arrrive.

Tried again with the CD just now and now it says it can't determin the genuity of certain packages (like aMSN and Amarok) at about the same point as before.

Anyone have any suggestion?

All my upgrades from 5.10 always went okay and I don't have any special software running. I might even just delete the partition and start over again, the only ting I am worried about is getting my dual display setup running again.

frodon
October 19th, 2007, 07:31 AM
Just wait that the server load decrease a little bit IMO, i don't think you can do more.

haldor61
October 19th, 2007, 07:36 AM
i tried to upgrade my feisty to gusty yesterday. although i had a very fast internet connection i took a error message and couldn't upgrade. i could install it with a new cd.. except having slow update time(in both synaptic and update manager), it is working flawlessly

marlinman
October 19th, 2007, 07:42 AM
I installed on a virtual machine made by VMWare Server 1.0.4 running under Vista <ducks>. Love the new wallpaper but I have no mouse pointer and my two side-by-side monitors now behave like the right screen is above the left (?!?!) . Why my Vista monitor settings have been broken by VMWare (or possibly Gutsy) I can't figure! Very impressed with speed of install tho' (from iso onto VM) and with boot speed also. Hopefully I can get to actually use the booted OS soon too :-) .

Edit: Mouse easily fixed but couldn't resist mentioning that my calendar reported August 22 1938 :-)
Edit II: Found that my monitor arrangement had actually been changed in ATI CCC - perhaps while upgrading VMWare Server from 1.0.3 to 1.0.4 <shrugs> . Very mysterious...

jon_gunnar
October 19th, 2007, 07:43 AM
Really should have been a "upgrade failed or didn't even start" choice.
Have done the upgrade prosess earlier,but this time when I tries the update manager it's just crash.

But I have done an clean install on anoter machine and there the process were painless.

snickers295
October 19th, 2007, 07:44 AM
i waited 14 hours for 60% and then my connection failed so i am now downloading the alternate cd because i heard that you can upgrade though that. i would wait a week or two if i were you before upgrading.

wieman01
October 19th, 2007, 07:45 AM
I did a fresh install as I was still running Dapper. It would worked more or less perfectly if it had not been for the usual suspects... my wireless (Ralnk) adapter. But that was a minor hassle, everything else worked perfectly for me.

JaqHama
October 19th, 2007, 07:47 AM
New Installation to partitioned Hard Drive.
Live CD Install failed completely.
Currently running IBM ThinkPad T60 2GB RAM 60GB HD.

HD Partitioning
20GB WXP
10GB Data
30GB Remaining (not formatted)

Partitioner fails to recognise the freespace, i.e., cannot select guided use available free space. Selected manual option, partition is listed as unknown, Selected partition deleted partition, partition now listed as freespace. Selected and created partition size 2057MB ext3 /. Selected OK. Partition listed as / 2057 with the remaining space as unknown, the only option available is to undo changes to partition or edit. Edit gives me nothing useful. Could progress but there is a warning that no swap is set, Go back try exercise again fails again.
We then go into an endless loop. This could be my issue, although I have used the Ubuntu installer on previous releases (manual option) with no issue, however the installation was to a completely blank drive.

Not sure where to go from here...I'll try a couple of things and post back, although it may take a little while...

vambo
October 19th, 2007, 07:53 AM
The recommended upgrade method worked as advertised basically. I actually did this with the rc release and kept it up to date so I had my new primate a day before the stampede :). Any issues are basically of my own making! If I could just leave things "as is"
:lol:.

frodon
October 19th, 2007, 07:55 AM
Really should have been a "upgrade failed or didn't even start" choice.
Have done the upgrade prosess earlier,but this time when I tries the update manager it's just crash.

But I have done an clean install on anoter machine and there the process were painless.Just wait, the fact that the ubuntu servers have a bandwidth limit have nothing to do with the success or not of your upgrade on the technical aspect, obviously it makes your update manager to freeze or crash but this is just server load issue.

Matakoo
October 19th, 2007, 08:02 AM
Well, my upgrade worked but there were a few things I had to solve. Some, because I've made some alterations to my system that I didn't really expect the upgrader to be able to do anything about. In some cases it could (i.e. asked if I wanted to keep or replace ssh.conf), in others it couldn't (it certainly didn't like my modified udev-rules...), hotwayd and dovecot needed to be reconfigured.

Some stuff I had to fix myself:

1. Sound. I got no sound whatsoever at first, except in applications using xine for some reason. Things that use ALSA without an intermediary refused to work (i.e. aplay, logon sounds, games) complained about a missing soundcard. Easily fixed by removing .asoundrc*. I don't know if that's the best approach, but at least it worked :)
2. Truecrypt and VirtualBox wouldn't run, since there was a mismatch between the kernel and the kernelmodule version. Recompiling truecrypt and reinstalling virtualbox fixed that.
3. Some of my previously installed programs had to be reinstalled, despite that I had installed them from the official repos before. Quanta Plus was one, but this may be due to the fact that I installed to the RC first and not the final one. Quanta may just not have been packaged properly when I did my upgrade.
4. OpenOffice menus didn't work in Compiz-ified KDE. For some reason the window was maximized to the extent that the titlebar wouldn't show, and the menus were affected by that too. In the no-compiz Gnome it worked, so I just made the Office-window smaller in Gnome, and then I was able to resize it properly in KDE as well. Come to think of it...would probably have worked by just removing a panel in KDE. Or going back to Kwin momentarily.


And finally...needed to figure out a way to make Konqueror the default instead of Dolphin but that's not because of a problem with the installer. Just that I think Dolphin doesn't cut it as the default filemanager.

ant1060
October 19th, 2007, 08:04 AM
HELLO,

I updated to Gutsy one week before official release date : it went (quite) well, though the process stopped at about 80% when installing files. Message : SORRY THE PROCESS CANNOT COMPLETE - YOUR INSTALLATION MIGHT BE UNSTABLE. Everything was backed up though, so I didn't worry and rebooted.

One big problem was that my screen resolution and Belgian keyboard were no longer recognised.

I solved the screen resolution by running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh and rebooting.
To overcome the keyboard problem (which affected my login splash screen even after I changed the keyboard setting in System Preferences) I changed one line in my xorg.config (PC 101 for 105; and "Belgian" for "US").

My major problem however was the Nvidia Driver which I had installed through Envy when I was running Feisty and had forgotten to uninstall. It took me a while to realise what I had done, so I uninstalled the Nvidia driver and then uninstalled Envy. This allowed me to reinstall the Nvidia driver through the new facility included in the Gutsy Compiz Fusion packages.(You have to search for these : right click on the desktop to access!)

Then I checked for upgrades using the Upgrade Manager and it found the missing stuff which had been aborted when I first installed. I was able to Install them this time with no problems and everything has been FINE since (except I am missing some Compiz Fusion functionality, such as Cube Atlantis, which I kind of liked.....)

I love Gutsy. Thanks so much to everyone involved with the development - you're great :)

NB : 1)
Before beginning my upgrade I removed the Compiz Fusion I had installed through Kevin van Zonneveld's blog http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/enable_compizfusion_in_ubuntu_feisty/
(and now there is a useful link to how to upgrade to Gutsy without breaking your previously installed Compiz Fusion too)
NB : 2)
I also uninstalled (almost) everything I had chosen in Automatix2 for Feisty, and then uninstalled Automatix2 itself. Am doing fine without that stuff now (although I miss some of the fonts).
NB : 3)
I also uninstalled all other 3rd Party software before beginning and am not missing it!

The whole installation process and tweaking (as described above) took about 5 hours.

GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE AND THANKS AGAIN :)

Smittey
October 19th, 2007, 08:06 AM
... obviously it makes your update manager to freeze or crash ...

LOL, a simple message saying server is full would nicer than a non responding app :D

Gooorn
October 19th, 2007, 08:10 AM
It went without any problem, or I'm not aware of it. I had like 100 error messages when the process was in configuring and setting stage, but after reboot there was no errors at all.

One thing though - I'm having IBM ThinkPad X30 with PIII 1.2GHz and 256MB RAM. With the 7.04 version the system was running at the speed of light. This one, 7.10, is somewhat slower and it is obvious with same appearance settings.

Bye.

frodon
October 19th, 2007, 08:10 AM
LOL, a simple message saying server is full would nicer than a non responding app :DYep i'm not an update-manager expert but i guess that it is what create the "freeze" impression despites the update-manager is still trying to establish the connection.
But sure things can be improved, maybe if you have time drop a suggestion in the hardy heron forum about better update-manager connection timeout handling for the next release.

Whateverist
October 19th, 2007, 08:11 AM
Compaq NX9010, 604MB RAM, Mobility Radeon 7000. Old, but sorta works.

Upgraded Xubuntu from 7.04 thorugh the update manager. Very fast download, the whole upgrade process didn't take more than two hours. No complaints there.

1024x768 resolution doesn't work right, the screen is offset to the left and, for lack of a better word, "wobbly" - it jitters and flickers constantly. Doesn't happen on lower resolutions, but does happen with the LiveCD.

Wireless connection (Buffalo adaptor with Windows driver) doesn't work. Ndiswrapper says the hardware and driver are present but neither the browser nor ifconfig can get a connection.

1.5GB seems to have vanished from my root partition - maybe the install files weren't deleted? This one's probably just a case of PEBCAK.

Unless I can find a magical fairy wand that can fix these issues, I'd like to reformat and start fresh, but since the graphics problem affects the LiveCD too that doesn't seem like a good idea.

Anzan
October 19th, 2007, 08:11 AM
I and two others on our LAN downloaded the Release Candidate last Friday and Saturday. Flawless.

We've installed from ISO on a few other boxes. Problems on one only but then it's always been a bit neurotic.

abhilash82
October 19th, 2007, 08:12 AM
My upgrade to Gutsy started out very well but midway my net connection got disconnected and had to start the partial upgrade process. Will this have any effect on the installation?

:guitar:

willemijns
October 19th, 2007, 08:25 AM
does not works with my ATI RADEON even with livecd F4 VGA function :-(
cd itself is good, i have tried to copy entire content to my HD and MD5 is good

i stay to windows :lolflag:

resac
October 19th, 2007, 08:28 AM
Foolishly, given the fact that I am not an experienced Linux usuer, Istarted the upgrade from my Feisty Fawn installation to Gutsy on the day it was released, and ran into trouble that I do not understand quite.

At the end (?) of the automatic upgrade, the system hung, and on reboot into Gutsy, screen resolutution was set to a default 800*600. I notice on the forum that a number of people have experienced the same problem and I dare say there will be a solution to this.

The other problem is a non-operative Terminal: when I start a new terminal windows, it is totally blank, no borders, no name, no prompt and no action. I have no idea how to solve this, so shall watch the forum to wait for other unfortunates who will doubtlessly experience the same problem and know more than me, and will be able to suggest the solution.

SOLVED the problem, by downloading and running ENVY which produced a new nvidia driver setup and made all behave as it should. Thanks for help!


System specs: AMD 4200+ Gigabyte GAM55Plus with 1 GB memory; nvidia Geforce 6100 display adapter

fprintf
October 19th, 2007, 08:32 AM
I voted "upgrade with a few problems". Mostly it went flawlessly. I downloaded the upgrade .iso via Bittorrent, which took an hour, and burned a CD on my windows machine. Booted into my current Ubuntu version and stuck the CD in the drive. When the menu popped up I selected to upgrade the machine and then when asked also selected to proceed while downloading updates from the internet. The machine hung on fetching the files, I assume because of the server volume issues, so I quit the upgrade and tried again without fetching updates. The upgrade worked flawlessly on an oldish IBM T30 laptop. It gave me the resolution I was hoping for and connected via my ethernet to the Internet without any problems.

I voted "with some problems" because a) my machine will not enable any desktop effects and b) hibernation mode gets stuck in a loop - black screen, then it asks for a password and goes back into Gnome. I think both problems are a driver issue.

I have been using Ubuntu on and off for a year now, though I have probably only spent 30 - 60 minutes on the system in that time. So I'd consider myself an absolute newbie. I was thrilled with how easy the original install and the subsequent upgrade processes were, except perhaps the last few long nights spent downloading/upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 to 7.04 in preparation for this release.

chadeldridge
October 19th, 2007, 08:35 AM
Unfortunately I have to say the upgrade process was rubbish for me. I have 4 machines all with 7.04 on them. The upgrade worked perfectly on 1 of those 4 and failed miserably on the other 3.

Machine 1: Dell XPS Gen2 Laptop
Upgrade failed at around 70% .. hardlocked the machine and rebooted to kernel panic. Still working on this box.

Machine 2 - 3: Both Dell desktops
Upgrade failed to configure tzdata and all related files and dependencies. I was able to reboot and remove tzdata and reinstall it through apt-get and finish the upgrade process manually. Although this was a total pain.

Machine 4: Dell desktop (same as machine 3)
Upgrade proceeded normally. Completed and rebooted. I should mention that this was a completely fresh 7.04 install with all updates applied.

Schroeder
October 19th, 2007, 08:47 AM
My upgrade didnt even start. Update manager keeps freezing up and nothing happens...

Dethis
October 19th, 2007, 08:54 AM
I tried to update to 7.10 an on the second step where you fetch the files, it stops...=\

gn2
October 19th, 2007, 09:01 AM
Desktop upgraded fine from Xubuntu 7.04 (originally installed from Live CD) to Xubuntu 7.10.
Downloads were slow, but servers probably busy.
All went well, no problems whatsoever.
(And having Automatix installed wasn't a problem)

Started on my laptop this morning and a very different story indeed.
Downloads very fast, but after update from Xubuntu 7.04 (originally installed from Alternate CD) to 7.10 applied, my user account was not allowed to switch the laptop off-please contact the administrator :? That's me! (or so I thought)
New kernel won't load, won't sync, kernel panic.
(No Automatix on the laptop.....)

Nevermind, currently downloading and burning a 7.10 Alternate CD for a clean install on the laptop.
Hopefully that'll work OK.

EDIT Laptop is a PIII 500mhz 192mb RAM Toshiba Portege 3440CT, Desktop is a self built Core 2 Duo E6300, 1Gb RAM, AsRock ConRoe945G-DVI

samuraiCat
October 19th, 2007, 09:42 AM
According to that non-scientific poll, only 20% of users had a problem-free experience. That, unfortunately, is a total failure.

I think I'll hold off on installing it.

samuraiCat
October 19th, 2007, 09:43 AM
Command line upgrade seemed to go well, but now gnome-panel won't load [even for a fresh user account, not sure if other parts load either], and the kernel parameter vga=791 gives a blank screen while booting [without splash and quiet].

Uh, that's because it should be vga=792

http://cro.alienpants.com/index.php/2007/05/05/getting-ubuntu-running-on-my-compaq-f500/

daxm
October 19th, 2007, 09:47 AM
I mentioned before elsewhere but I'll post here too.

My upgrade kept failing to download all the files so I just did a fresh install. Working good so far except my sound. I was hoping that 7.10 would support my c-media soundcard right "out of the box" but I guess I'll have to manually configure it again (like I did in 7.04).

When the load is lessened I might consider checking out the 64bit version.

monkey2
October 19th, 2007, 09:57 AM
According to that non-scientific poll, only 20% of users had a problem-free experience. That, unfortunately, is a total failure.

I think I'll hold off on installing it.

A fresh install worked fine for me - Athlon XP3000, MSI RS480 M-IL, 6600GT
Compiz, wireless networking, all working.

People are more likely to vote and post in this thread if they have problems, not if it worked flawlessly

persev
October 19th, 2007, 10:00 AM
I upgraded via the update manager, it took most of the day and into the evening with a cable connection. Upgrade worked flawlessly. I am not happy with some of the changes that have been made, particularly removal of things like Synaptic from the menu (I have to start it from cli) and missing config options as simple being able to change my cursor from the mouse preferences. I do like the new Theme manager but just changing the Desktop backgrounds takes longer now. The new Visual Effects chooser is nice also. I will give about a week and see if I will keep it or downgrade.

Edit: I found where to change the cursor/pointer, it has been moved to the Theme manager under pointer.

beesthorpe
October 19th, 2007, 10:06 AM
Well in my case the upgrade mechanism satisfied Clarke's Third Law - that is it was indistinguishable from magic :). Even desktop effects worked straight out of the box. Nothing in this life is perfect of course, but the only problem I've come across so far is the version of Firefox in 7.10 seems irritatingly prone to freezes of a minute or so for no apparent reason <sigh>

jon_gunnar
October 19th, 2007, 10:08 AM
Just wait, the fact that the ubuntu servers have a bandwidth limit have nothing to do with the success or not of your upgrade on the technical aspect, obviously it makes your update manager to freeze or crash but this is just server load issue.

I know what a freeze is,and I know about server issue.I also know what I write usually.
This is a update-manager problem were the application goes bye bye,nothing to do with the server load.

szulat
October 19th, 2007, 10:22 AM
my experience:

the upgrade was quite successful, but i'm disappointed that gutsy was not able to install the restricted nvidia driver automatically. in feisty it failed because of the unsupported geforce model (the driver was too old) but gutsy has the proper version, yet the nvidia xorg driver could not start because of the bad kernel module version.
so i had to remove the restricted manager and install the binary package from nvidia website (how ugly).

the new compiz is much better than the feisty version, and perhaps it is even good enough to keep it enabled all the time (no catastrophic failures for now, it only freezed once and immediately switched to the old window manager automatically). this would be the true good reason to upgrade :-)

and tracker does not work at all but i'm working on a solution...

that's all :-)

mifi
October 19th, 2007, 10:28 AM
Installed fresh on my laptop.

During boot from HD, the screen remains dark for a couple of minutes. Every now and then, there is a little disk activity.
After 5 minutes, the 'Gnome' login screen appears and the system is working normally. Everything before that was just a black screen.

I went into /boot/grub/menu.lst and removed the 'quiet splash' parameters to see more messages and find out what it is doing all that time.

However, with 'quiet' and 'splash' removed, it is booting like a charm. About as fast as 7.04.

It seems I have stumbled upon a workaround.

cheers
m

doooh_head
October 19th, 2007, 10:33 AM
Before I started the upgrade, I went in and changed my default sources location. I discovered when you goto change it, it has a "detect which one is the best location to choose" option, so I ran that, it chose one for me, and when I started the upgrade it proceeded very quickly. I was getting download rates of 300K-800K.
The installation takes the longest. Fine. After my reboot everything came up looking great except that I have two monitors, on an ATI (Radeon 9250) card. I immediately tried to configure the two monitors, but everything went downhill from there. After making my changes, I logged out and re-logged in and from that point forward I wasn't able to attain any high-end graphics state. I was stuck in 800x600 low res mode and nothing I did allowed me to fix that. I ended up rebooting and instead of loading the latest kernel that gets installed, I ran the other slightly older kernel and I was able to get back to my 1280x1024 resolution, but not my dual (big desktop) setup. About the only other thing that I've noticed that doesn't work is my VPN connection to my work. Some configuration option that we use, is no longer provided in Kvpnc. Don't know what to do about that just yet.

Quid
October 19th, 2007, 10:36 AM
Once I found out I could redirect my request for files to other servers in the Synaptic Package Manager - and have then stick for the upgrade It was like a dream.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580750

Nvidia had me worried - but it worked out of the box.

All the stress seems to be that the default servers were overloaded .

7.10 and Ubuntu Rocks - Good work team!

CHFFriday
October 19th, 2007, 10:47 AM
Upgrade went OK but it took WAY TO LONG!:eek:

I have five (5) more workstations to upgrade. I will not use the Internet way to upgrade!

Has anyone upgrade using the Alternate CD way? If so is it faster?

CHFFriday


Edit: If I sound like I’m complaining, then I just want to apologize to all. I just wanted to tell everyone what to expect. I have never upgrade an SO using the Internet and I have been doing this stuff for 40 years. I wanted to see how it would work and I found out. I can wait for things to calm down. No problem. Anyway, I don’t know why I want to upgrade. Things are working fine.

If you think the Internet is overwhelmed now by Umbutu users just think of what it would be like if Microsoft did something like this.

What is needed is an Upgrade CD that does not need to use the Internet at the time of installation. This would be purchase at a minor cost and this would slow things down to a manageable pace. Then the download would be an option for those that don’t want to spend the money for the CD.

Why not the Alternate CD? My understanding is it also needs the Internet. Not good at this time.

Just some thoughts.

dbsub9
October 19th, 2007, 10:50 AM
I started my upgrade using the development version of Gutsy. I thought I could just go to the update manager and let everything download. It had to d/l somewhere around 125 packages It took a very long time and some packages didn't download, some of the packages that did download didn't install. My Ubuntu is still working but I don't think I have a full production mode version of 7.10 on my machine right now. Can anyone point me to a link that describes the way to upgrade from a development version of Gutsy to the new stable release?

Thanks!

nmincone
October 19th, 2007, 10:53 AM
I downloaded the alternate CD, which downloaded some updated packages. All installed fine but upon reboot after logging in I get a white screen and a cursor. Haven't solved it (ATI Radeon 9200SE) and have rebooted with alternate xorg.conf settings many, many times....

md5hash
October 19th, 2007, 11:02 AM
I tried both upgrade and clean install and they worked flawlessly... upgrade took me 9hrs :)

airbornemist6
October 19th, 2007, 11:13 AM
I installed gutsy, and my first confusion was enabling my ati driver (I could have sworn we were promised to get fglrx 8.42 around this time) and then I realized it didn't get installed... or something. I spent about 2 hours trying to fix that, but eventually was able to fix it with my own knowledge.

My next problem was trying to get compiz fusion to work, which, it still isn't. No offense to our lovely developers, but seriously what the hell did you guys do to it? It's seriously fighting me. I mean, I eventually got it partially working by installing random packages, but now my compiz-manager is giving me all kinds of problems, I imagine that my problems are only worsened by XGL (that is usually the spawn of most problems related to compositing), but it seems I must be missing something, because when my compiz fusion settings isn't working right, The settings don't seem to do anything. Gah, I really hope I can get this working right.

On a positive note, everything else is working no problem. However, it seems to me that a lot of the packages that are usually installed... when you install didn't... install lol. Like I could have sworn I saw somewhere that flash, restricted codecs, and the like were coming preinstalled... they didn't on my machine, even though it seems some of them were on the disk. *sigh* This is going to take awhile.

pablo66
October 19th, 2007, 11:13 AM
Used upgrade from feisty through update manager. Looked like it installed everything but when I rebooted it said I did not have a complete install, so it recommended a partial upgrade and everything went fine from there and windows effects still don't work. The most MINOR burp really.

austin1030
October 19th, 2007, 11:15 AM
It took me few hours to download ISO files since there were so many people downloading at the same time. I understand that. But what I don't understand is why there is a problem looking at the mirror sites on the installation process. One point, I began installing Ubuntu before I setup network to access outside world, it was unaccessible to Ubuntu secure site and comment out all synaptic links on the sources.list file. At home, it took over an hour (:confused:) on them installation and over 10 mins (:confused:) for each downloading from mirror sites. WOW, I never knew I will be having so much headache to install Ubuntu. It is LOVE or HATE moment.

Austin

bmartin
October 19th, 2007, 11:21 AM
I don't know why this happened; it suddenly went away. I've been using Linux for years and I'm at a loss to explain this.

I upgraded to Gutsy using the Update Manager and restarted my computer. After boot, Network Manager wouldn't allow me to connect to my wireless network (or any network). I proceeded to install WICD, which led to the same results. I didn't have a wired connection available, so there wasn't much I could do.

Upon successive rebooting, my keyboard sometimes didn't work at all (I could select my kernel in GRUB, but after that, all keystrokes were futile). The wireless kept failing. When I ran WICD from the command line, it spat out a message about DBUS not responding (or something like that). I tried restarting DBUS and HAL, but nothing worked... until I booted an older kernel in recovery mode, then loaded up DBUS and GDM manually. I tried doing the same steps again, but it didn't work. Different versions of the kernel didn't work.

After about ten reboots, everything went back to normal. I couldn't have installed anything, as I had no internet connection the whole time. My wireless network connection, which had been detecting networks all along but wouldn't retrieve an IP address, started working, and my keyboard behaved as normal.

I've heard that sometimes computers can overheat, but mine has never displayed the symptoms before and I have no reason to believe it was overheating at the time. In between boots, I loaded up Windows and the networking worked fine. That was about halfway through my rebooting spree.

Do you have any idea why this might occur? I can't imagine it having nothing to do with the upgrade, as nothing like this has ever happened before.

On a side note, the cupsys and consolekit configurations both failed with exit status 1... so probably the old ones didn't uninstall properly or some stupid thing. I have CUPS disabled anyways, since I never connect this computer to a printer for anything.

badguyanil
October 19th, 2007, 11:21 AM
treid these various ways!!!

1. tried to upgrade from 7.04....which shows the download speed from 13-25kbps and total time required to 13-14hrs...i feel is insane. There should be a better way to upgrade. Later found way of doing so thru the alt cd! i think this should be put up right at the upgrade help page of ubuntu!

2. New istallation stuck at 82% scanning for mirrors...shouldnt there be a time frame to scan for mirrors and just skip the step if internet is not found connected. 7.04 never gave any problems with screen resolution! 7.10 got clean installed...after unplugging the ethernet cable though!! but the screen resolution is different!!! just getting blinking led's on the creen now :'(

airencracken
October 19th, 2007, 11:45 AM
I did a fresh install even though I had previously used Edgy and Fiesty. I have some problems still. My headphone jack still doesn't work on my laptop and this bug has been consistant through all three versions. Also I have a weird boot issue. Beyond those issues (and my ati woes, though hopefully the new flrgx driver will fix that with AIGLX support) it's been fine.

cudaman73
October 19th, 2007, 11:48 AM
Where's the upgrade failed or didn't even get started option. I tried to upgrade through the update manager but the servers are obviously going into meltdown. I'll leave it for a few days now.

What do you expect, with probably 60% of the ubuntu population trying to update all at the same time.

I'm glad to say that the upgrade only took me six or seven hours, but it worked flawlessly. Even kept all of my compiz/emerald themes and settings.

I did have to reinstall emerald, but that was the only problem.

Have not come across any errors at all yet. I'm very happy with the ubuntu devs.

Can+~
October 19th, 2007, 11:51 AM
Method: Reinstallation from LiveCD
Status: Failed :(.
Desktop PC: graphics:Ati X800 GTO2, cpu:AMD Athlon 64 3700+, mobo: Asus A8N-SLI.

I started the LiveCD, and I saw this:
...
...
running local boot scripts (etc/rc.local)

Then it loads xorg, and tells me that I have to use a "safe graphics mode", I click "ok". Xorg dies, and I'm back at the "running local boot scripts (etc/rc.local)" and stucks there.

I tried again later, I configured the Xorg to use FGLRX, unsuccessfully.

It's a pain to restart the whole pc and livecd to find if my config worked, what's the command to reload the xorg and try again? (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't work of course).

pablo66
October 19th, 2007, 11:52 AM
1. tried to upgrade from 7.04....which shows the download speed from 13-25kbps and total time required to 13-14hrs...i feel is insane. There should be a better way to upgrade. Later found way of doing so thru the alt cd! i think this should be put up right at the upgrade help page of ubuntu!

I did an upgrade from 7.04 too, (Update manager upgrade+having to do a partial upgrade after the full upgrade)=2 hours.

geek_Man
October 19th, 2007, 11:57 AM
My wireless broke. And I've got two instances of nm-applet, and neither mention my wireless... thingy.

cudaman73
October 19th, 2007, 11:57 AM
What's the command to reload the xorg and try again? (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't work of course).


Try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart

It should stop and start X as well as the gdm.

click4851
October 19th, 2007, 11:58 AM
Happy to share my upgrade experience.....my previous ones were poor at best......

Tried initial upgrade morning of the 18th PST here on the Left Coast, servers were really slow and it chugged away all morning. Came back from work at midnight and we had some high winds and we had lost power some time in the the afternoon early evening. So booted the computer in to Feisty for the last time. Brought up the upgrade manager and began the process, Servers seemed much faster, and it was less than a hour on Comcast Cable connection. I did get a ALSA config popup on reboot which I am happy to say, sound has been one of my pet peevs. It works, and I mean it works well. Thank you Gutsy team, goodbye esound. Overall seems faster, snappier......I like it . No problems with my Nvidia FX5900 video card, or my Sound Blaster Live, Very Happy, hopefully all my upgrades will go this well.

plantman
October 19th, 2007, 12:00 PM
Lost Thunderbird and a lot of my settings. I may have done more of an install than upgrade. Can that happen? I am new to Linux but having a great time. Any help would be appreciated.:guitar:

Can+~
October 19th, 2007, 12:11 PM
Try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart

It should stop and start X as well as the gdm.

It worked on feisty, I'll try it on the livecd now, thanks.

Weezer
October 19th, 2007, 12:12 PM
Failed to get the disk to boot thus far.

Thinkpad T61p:
Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz T7700
nVidia Quadro FX 570M


Without Safe Mode, the screen simply goes black, and even blindly cltr+alt+F1-ing to sudo reboot doesn't work. With Safe Mode, I get as far as X trying to load, which fails repeatedly, giving me an error message after the sixth attempt. I've tried removing quiet and changing splash to nosplash in the boot options, as well as ctrl+alt+F1 to type in sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver.xorg (which then tells me there's no such thing as reconfigure). Adding noapic irqpoll noirqdebug to the boot options doesn't seem to help, nor does nopaic=noirq nolapic. Finally, live acpi=off just brings up another problem that seems irrelevant to Xserver's failure. Those are all the things I've seen suggested in the black screen off a boot disk thread. I'm going to keep looking for other solutions.

Opus7
October 19th, 2007, 12:13 PM
I have been unsuccessful in my attempts to install Gutsy on an old Compaq system (2.5Mhz, 256MB Mem, 50GB Hdd). I have reformatted the hard drive to remove all old windows, software, viruses, etc...so I should not have any problems. It runs through the install process and gets to an "off-white page" and seems to freeze. I noticed that it had one error when running through install, about midway, that said "CPU scaling frequency not supported". I let the system sit for about an hour and when I came back the screen was blank -- nothing...

So I thought perhaps I should try to download an older version to install. I have tried Ubuntu 6.06, 7.04, 7.04 alternate, and now 7.10. And I have tried Knoppix 5.1.1 --- but none of these will install on this old Compaq system. I have been able to use the 7.10 CD successfully on an even older notebook with less resources, so the CD seems okay...

Error Message with older versions (not 7.10) -
Int 14: cr2 cf800000 err00000000 eipc020c384 cs00000060 flags00010007
stack: c00f7da0 c03f129b c0371d8c 00000002 c00f7da9 000f7da0 00000000 000000000

I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out what the real issue is with the old system. The hardware seems to check out, and it was running windows xp okay until viruses corrupted it. I was able to reinstall XP and it ran okay, but it was my legal version for another machine, so I removed and planned to use for Linux. But no success to date.

Can anyone help me???

brandon30x
October 19th, 2007, 12:16 PM
I installed Gutsy fresh from the live CD. Seemed to work flawlessly except for waiting to contact certain servers. I installed over a Feisty system that was duel booted with Windows. The only two problems I have so far is that when I suspend to ram, it wakes to a black screen. Suspending worked fine in Feisty. Also when I tried the fast user switch, it also comes to a black screen after entering my login credentials.

System:
Compaq V2000 (V2010US) Laptop
512 MB Ram
Intel integrated graphics
Pentium M (centrino)
Dual boot with WinXP

pierrem-m
October 19th, 2007, 12:24 PM
I've been using Ubuntu for a few months now but haven't got into the nuts and bolts of it yet.

I'm running Ubuntu on an dual CPU board with a couple of 600MHz Pentium and 1Gig of RAM and with a possibly similar vintage NVIDIA graphics card with an 80Gig Seagate HDD and an LG DVD Burner

My 7.04 install was working quite nicely and I'd even got it to play commercial DVDs quite OK (and was rather proud of myself for that).

Unfortunately 7.10 only recognizes CPU1 which is slowing things down a bit and, amongst other things DVDs now play jerkily and with two adjacent vertical blue bars on the right hand side of the picture with both blue bars having feathered edges on the right hand side.

Has anyone any ideas as to how I can get 7.10 to recognize CPU2 as I suspect this is the root (pun intended) of my problems?

Any advice would be very much appreciated!!!!!!!!!

Thanks

Peter

Therion
October 19th, 2007, 12:31 PM
...

Without Safe Mode, the screen simply goes black ... I'm going to keep looking for other solutions.
Same problem. The black-screen is a major downer and so far no single solution seems to be working for everyone. I'll have to throw in the towel and go back to Feisty if no solution is forthcoming. I'm totally bummed over this... Wanting Gutsy pretty damn bad. :(

Home-built machine: AMD-64 4200+ X2, nVidia 8800 GTS and 2GB of Corsair RAM all hitched to an Asus A8N-SLI mobo.

kingcharles1666
October 19th, 2007, 12:35 PM
My dual screen setup is completely screwed and this bullet proof X is not working for me, more like against me.
Also my wireless is manually up only. ndiswrapper just doesnt load automatically anymore.

i'll give it some more hours of dedication before going back to feisty:(

systemgod
October 19th, 2007, 12:42 PM
I just upgraded to Gutsy. Took a looooong time I guess everybody is upgrading now :-).
Anyway after the upgrade I can only run X in 800x600. I tried running the config tool but whatever I change I always end up in 800x600

BTW: when I click on 'test' to test the new mode I select, afterwards the configuration simply closes. Annoying

doooh_head
October 19th, 2007, 12:47 PM
I just upgraded to Gutsy. Took a looooong time I guess everybody is upgrading now :-).
Anyway after the upgrade I can only run X in 800x600. I tried running the config tool but whatever I change I always end up in 800x600

BTW: when I click on 'test' to test the new mode I select, afterwards the configuration simply closes. Annoying

I experienced this too. The way I got back to something better was to boot up a different, older kernel. I haven't booted back up into the latest kernel yet, but I will try that tonight when I get home and see if what I have working in an older kernel still works in the newer one. Its still not perfect for me yet, as I still have to configure my dual monitors.

Try the older kernel, it helped me get something working.

Richard B
October 19th, 2007, 12:55 PM
Toshiba Satellite Pro with 512MB RAM and external monitor. Gutsy beta failed to load - started to but screens went garbled - various colored splodges. Release candidate loaded and installed - and works. Now full release behaves exactly as the beta. Selecting safe graphics does not help.

elfuego
October 19th, 2007, 01:15 PM
Hi all!

I have just upgraded from FF to GG and I am a bit dissapointed.

First, I have been happily using FF with beryl and after upgrading it to GG, X server failed to start (I only got black screen, the thing everyone here is talking about ;) ). I corrected this easily - entered recovery mode, typed in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fixed it.

Then, there is a problem with Kopete - when I try to connect to MSN account, it crashes. Every other protocol that I tried (ICQ, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC) worked, but MSN fails. As I wanted to make sure that this isn't just my imagination, I installed GG cleanly on a brand new toshiba Satellite Pro L40 and the problem is still there - Kopete definitely crashes when trying to connect with MSN. Does anyone know how to fix this?

Also, Beryl was removed, and I installed compiz-fusion. It works faster then beryl, and therefore, am I pleased :)

BTW, It seems that there is a bug with Intel HDA sound. When I installed GG on a new toshiba, i got only right channel sound. When I try to modify the volume - the sound stopps. Then, the only thing that helps is hard-restart. I yet have to solve this glitch... Does anyone have any idea how?

I tried using ALSA and OSS, but the effect is pretty much the same. :(

ashur@trogdor
October 19th, 2007, 01:24 PM
I downloaded the ISO for intel 386 via a torrent last night in about 20 minutes. I had previously had the Feisty AMD64 build, but a few weeks ago it blew up with kernal panics unable to mount the root volume. I figured I had nothing real valuable on the partition, so I'd install over it (and going with the less problematical version this time, the 64-bit "experience" wasn't worth the hassle).

Writing the ISO via Nero in XP was no problem and then the install happened. I wonder if I chose the correct option here in that I chose the Guided, use the second partition. I feel in retrospect I probably should have done a manual one to ensure I overwrote my old install and don't have it alongside it.

The install took a while, maybe 30ish minutes, and recognized my single user account from Fiesty, which I chose to import and then rebooted w/o the CD in.

X started up fine on one of my two matching 17" flat panels (I had no end of difficulty with this in Feisty and was looking forward to the new control panels), I got the restricted driver heads-up for my Nvidia card. It told me to click to enable. I did and X became unresponsive.

After about 12 minutes I realized it wasn't delayed, but dead. Luckily CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE was able to restart X just fine and then I was able to install the Nvidia driver. The repos were very very slow, but I expected as much. The Nvidia driver went in cleanly and restarted X again.

On to the monitors! I fired up the control panel for the monitors. While it seemed straight forward I had to try about 6 combinations before I got it to bring up the monitors in the correct resolution and arrangement. But now it works every time. YAY GUTSY!

Now that I had the correct video driver and monitors I didn't have my second sceen blinking crap at me, so I could actually pay attention without worrying about slipping into a convulsion.

It didn't seem to have imported any of my old documents, but all I found was my bookmarks and my Pidgin account info (wahoo!). I suppose that's good for a start. It also auto-mounted my NTFS drive, so I was able to access my MP3s... so time to fire up those so I could rock out while I checked out the new stuff.

Again, the restricted driver manager jumped in and guided me to download and install the correct packages. Slow, due to the repos' getting creamed, but it all came down and was successfully installed.

So far, so good - but that's when my dog summoned me downstairs (she's recovering from surgery and can't mount the stairs) to watch NCAA College Football with her.

Tonight I tackle:
- Web Browser (Flash, Adblock etc)
- OpenRPG (didn't see it in the repos, haven't tried apt-get yet. Hope there's no problems...)
- Desktop effects (not required, but I was a fan of the "cube" and edge flipping of workspaces)
- Seeing if I can find my old docs from my Fiesty install (and making sure I don't have bogus partitions to clean up)

oneferna
October 19th, 2007, 01:24 PM
I just upgraded after going into admin>sources>other and figuring out the fastest server to download from. It took about an hour to download and install the whole thing. The only problem I'm having is the font in firefox and thunderbird is now terrible. And I can't use the special effects because of my nvidia graphics card. Firefox goes black when I turn on Normal Visual Display. Other than that this is the smoothest upgrade I've ever done.

rolnics
October 19th, 2007, 01:28 PM
I for once was impatient and downloaded Gutsy about a week ago, and ran the live cd, all worked ok, so last night I installed it on a seperate partition all is working fine I've even got compiz working, which was a bit touchy before! I thought I'd do it this way so if it did break I wouldn't loss anything and could always delete the partition without the worry of lossing things!

I've still got Feisty installed, I'll see how things go with Gutsy, give it a month or so and I'll probably upgrade my other partition.

TempsPerdu
October 19th, 2007, 01:44 PM
Tried updating from within Update Manager after checking my 7.04 system was fully up to date.

System downloaded all the files ok, and started to install the system. It got half way through and it had crashed, not responding to anything. Tried rebooting nothing... Reinstalled 7.04 from CD, that went ok. Didn't add anything, did an update, all ok. Then tried the Upgrade again to 7.10.

Same again it downloaded the files ok, started the install, but froze after about 30% and had been there for several hours. Rebooted, but it came up in a mixture of 7.04 and 7.10 I think, no network connection 'No HAL' so I reinstalled 7.04 again....

I have a 7.10 CD on order... I will try that as a fresh install and see what happens...

Steve

Can+~
October 19th, 2007, 02:19 PM
It worked on feisty, I'll try it on the livecd now, thanks.

Ok.. I tried using the low graphics mode, it freezed, so I restarted xorg, and tried another config, freezed, the third time I tried another one (I think vesa) and worked.

I got into the Desktop, but I'm not sure if it's worth upgrading. So.. I'm gonna wait some time, specially because there are a lot of rough edges on the new xorg's bulletproof. I mean, the idea of bulletproof is awesome, but it needs some auto-restarting, since I had to do it manually to make it work.

So I'm sticking to Feisty, maybe I'll try Gutsy on a virtual box before reinstalling.

horizonevent
October 19th, 2007, 02:23 PM
Clicked on update manager, and had the new system up and running in about three hours with no problems at all.:)

gn2
October 19th, 2007, 02:24 PM
After problems with 7.10 Upgrade done through Update Manager on my laptop, I tried installing from the Alternate CD.

Pages of installer very slow to load and eventually hung at 82% installing linux-generic.
No HDD activity, no CD-Rom activity, nothing for an hour.

Back to 7.04, currently being re-installed from Alternate CD.

May try to get 7.10 through Update Manager again in a few weeks.

Baphijmm
October 19th, 2007, 02:38 PM
Been working at it for over 24 hours now and there's absolutely no end in sight. I've changed source servers, I've tried doing it in recovery mode, I've downloaded the alternate CD, and there is nothing yet that has gotten me even remotely close to actually getting this upgrade.

Upgrades have been getting progressively worse since I first downloaded 5.10. Seriously, why?

tjk
October 19th, 2007, 03:18 PM
I've been using Linux for over two years now and have faced several upgrades/installations before. But here's my experience with upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy:Firstly, to avoid all the busy servers I downloaded the files days before the last Gutsy was complete -- although it still took many hours (approx 8 hrs!) on my high speed connection -- then I only had a couple of files to upgrade when the new version was released. In my prior Feisty upgrade the servers were totally jammed for over a week after the release (and by the messages that I'm seeing, they are jammed again this time) -- this idea of getting the upgrade early saved me from much stress.

I followed the basic upgrade instructions found on the KDE (Kubuntu) site, and overall the installation went much better then my installation to Feisty.

When I first tried to upgrade to Gutsy the installer would not start because of some problematic repositories in my package manager. I disable these and the installation ran without any interruptions.

Some of the problems that I faced before finalizing the installation included:
1) changing the video driver back to nv (standard nvidia), then I tried Envy to uninstall/reinstall a newly compiled driver -- but the program couldn't uninstall it, I then accidentally discovered that the Gnome desktop had a menu for "Restricted Drivers" that allowed me to install the Nvidia driver for my specific video card -- then when I rebooted and opened my normally used KDE destop, all was working as it should.
2) I had problems getting Compiz to work (which I was using in Feisty), so I totally removed all files/packages related to Compiz and then reinstalled -- everything works fine now (although I had to adjust my configuration again).
3) I have sound (unlike my upgrade to Feisty) but Amarok complains that "Xine cannot find the drivers" when loading. So I changed the audio driver to OGG and the problem went away --- however I don't know what the effect will be for making this change and may have to troubleshoot this in the future.
4) Some small problems include: no basket icon in Kontact, the need to reinstall/compile Wine and Vmware (and the Admin portion of the Control Center cannot/will not install Wine), I would like to see a tutorial that would help with new features (such as reinstalling the Nvideo driver, VMware, etc).

The good things about Gutsy: some things load faster (although video seems slower), Tasty Menu panel suddenly works (was installed in Feisty, but didn't work), after reinstalling Wine the menu now has submenus, and there are lots of other good things in the upgrade...

Oh, there are always things that I wish had been implemented in this new version (i.e. please work on the "help system"), but all-in-all it's a good upgrade and the process of upgrading was the easiest to date. Well done to all of you who have participated ! And thank you very much !! =D>

egregor
October 19th, 2007, 03:18 PM
I've been using (k)ubuntu since 6.10 I guess, and this install was easily the worst I've been through. I installed kubuntu on one of my machines, ubuntu on the other. Both had serious issues.

First kubuntu:
- I have an EVGA GeForce 7800 GT card. Not overclocked. I think this is a pretty standard card to use in a linux desktop. The desktop installation simply does not work with this card, as the nv driver doesn't work with it under ubuntu - black screen (but has under other distributions.. go figure). So i grabbed the alternate install.
- Ran check CD for errors upon booting the alternate CD. The check resulted in a garbled screen as it checked for errors, and as i tried to see the status through the weird lines, I could not determine in the end if the CD had problems or not. So i crossed my fingers and installed from it anyway.
- Wireless not detected at install-time, despite being a linux-friendly rt-2500 card.
- Install finishes, Grub installs to MBR, trying to boot up from grub i get a no such partition error. Boot in rescue mode, find out that for whatever reason, ubuntu decided to use (hd1) in grub, instead of (hd0). Manually changing hd1 to hd0 solved this problem, but really, should I have to?
- Boot into kubuntu for the first time, and I have two monitors. One displays the progress correctly, the other is a garbled mess of blue. This problem still exists even after using Vesa and Nvidia drivers.
- Wireless support was far from out-of-the-box. Needed to manually edit my /etc/network/interfaces despite (as i mentioned) using a linux friendly card.
- I don't know if easy multi-monitor configuration was promised in kubuntu, as it was ubuntu, but it was just as "easy" as feisty. Use nvidia-settings, which constantly complains about conflicting metamodes, etc, and only sometimes does what I tell it. I got it into a state that hopefully it will be comfortable with now.

Under ubuntu:
- prism wavelan chipset. Not recognized at install-time.
- This is probably my biggest gripe. I wanted to get mp3/dvd/codec support, which is supposed to be easy. Trying to play an mp3, it tells me that i need codecs. OK, try to install gstreamer-XXX. Repository not available, check internet connection and click refresh. Internet's working fine at this point, but trying to click on the gstreamer plugins keeps telling me to refresh. Now i know the servers are really pressured yesterday, but it's coming back with this error immediately. This one had me stumped until I noticed that the package manager COMMENTED OUT every single one of my repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list, since it could not verify them (I assume due to the heavy server load yesterday). What?! What kind of design is that? My sources were completely useless after the server timed out once.

I spent a few hours yesterday working through these issues, and I'm pleased with what I finally ended up with as a desktop, but these installation issues were terrible. I don't know if i'd be comfortable telling one of my non-computer savvy friends to give this a whirl anymore. Having said that, I'm pleased with the desktop experience I've finally ended up with and I'll be leaving it on there.

dnandell
October 19th, 2007, 03:23 PM
I was going to do an upgrade. Thought about it for a day. Decided to wipe/install fresh 7.10.

I wanted to see if I remembered everything I did to customize my system. I also wanted to install a new version of the Cisco VPN client.

Worked like a charm and I remembered everything. Kinda keeps my memory fresh. My version of mind games.

7.10 is nice!

Dave

lasers22
October 19th, 2007, 03:23 PM
i tried to install by way of the update-manager -d with no success i get
the error -failed to fetch http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt/dists/feisty/release.
i have wine installed,mybe i should unistall wine and try.
i have downloaded the iso file for 7.10 gutsy so i will burn it to a disk and try to
install from it. also i am dual booting my laptop i had vista installed but ever since i installed
ubuntu i have not booted up to vista since,i like to get this to work.:(:(

mariuss
October 19th, 2007, 03:28 PM
Downloaded iso images using bittorrent yesterday, that went very fast.

Tried to install using the alternate disk, and installed stuck for hours "Scanning for mirror...", unplugging network cable did not help. Also, the system was overheating, probably processor was maxed out (no idea why), so I had to shut down.

Tried again today and eventually went past "Scanning for mirror".

This is pretty bad, if I install from CD I would expect to be able to skip the mirror checking. Also, while scanning for mirrors the processor should not max out.

Tilos
October 19th, 2007, 03:38 PM
My clock is going to fast. WAY to fast. It's affecting everything. The clock in the system tray is ticking by a minute every few seconds. The repeat rate on my keyboard is insane. Animated GIFs in Firefox are changing so rapidly they're just a blur. The animated mouse cursor rotates to fast when launching programs. It's impossible to double-click because the time between clicks is passing to fast.

Any ideas?

jpittack
October 19th, 2007, 03:38 PM
I used bitorrent, backed up files, went from gutsy beta with huge mistakes caused by me to a clean, shiny, gutsy final with wireless working after following usual howto, ati driver in from restricted manager (can't wait for the new ones!), and my favorite time waster, battle for wesnoth back in place. Next is compiz, but not until the servers cool off (I am sure many want this working up to snuff) and my analog dsl connection starts downloading at higher than 2000 b/s.:(

jamillikan
October 19th, 2007, 03:42 PM
I did a fresh install of 7.10 on an HP Pavilion Slimline s7500n PC. The installation was unremarkable.

Pros

1. Enabling the proprietary driver for the onboard ATI card is easy.
2. Enabling XGL was easy.
3. Compiz-Fusion is absolutely beautiful and slick.

Cons

4. Something is VERY wrong with Pidgin. My system was functioning beautifully until I launched that application and then the system speed was like it was in a trance.

5. DOSEMU installed, but dosemu-freedos is not going to be installed. Joy of joys.

6. Clicking on "Applications" one had to wait a good 15 seconds for anything to happen. A log out fixed it until I launched Pidgin again when the same sluggish response returned.

7. No boot splash screen after enabling XGL with ATI and Compiz-fusion. i.e., the boot screen is black with some "bug" notice flashing quickly and then disappearing. I've already found how to resolve that, but should I have to? Just a thought.

8. The DOSEMU issue was "sort of" resolved by grabbing DOSEMU 1.4 from dosemu.org and using Alien and dpkg. Once I did that, immediate Gutsy reported an updated package was available. I installed the update to DOSEMU.

9. After futzing with it for two days, I finally said, "This is a beautiful desktop" but I've had enough. Downgraded where I think I'll stay bercause everything "just works flawlessly." (Glad I made an image of the previous version before I did a fresh install.)

10. I don't have time to muck-around resolving these "issues." My current "system" works flawlessly with Beryl, so I'm staying put, but I think Pidgin needs a closer look for whatever reason.

Note: Your experience will probably be better than mine, but I'm just offering up my thoughts that, while a stunningly beautiful presentation, something just isn't quite right yet. I'm sure the fine folks at Ubuntu will resolve these "issues" in time and all will be well. I haven't the time to waste on it currently.

Joe

ogcub
October 19th, 2007, 03:42 PM
I upgraded from feisty and got lots of problems:
my resolution was lovered back to 1024x something(was 1280x1024), and choosing intel driver don't help this time, gnome panel icons messed up (due to resolution changes i think), some custom settings lost, customized keyboard (metacity) shortcuts dont work (using gconf-editor shows some strange <mod4> key added, removing it solves problem, but still), Window deformation effect gone (was in feisty, but unable to find in Gutsy).
On the positive side new screen and graphics tool is good (but still buggy for me (duo to driver problems i think), compiz works better and i can watch movies then using it.

ANOther thing is that upgrade rquired user intervention: Some package asked if i want to replace some config in the midlle ot the process. This is bad. such things shuold be postponed until the end, becaus it you aren't monitoring it, it will stop.

reset3x
October 19th, 2007, 03:51 PM
Upgraded Xubuntu 7.04 to 7.10. The only problem I have is the Network Monitor disappeared from one of my panels and I can't get it back. Tried adding a new one. Tried deleting the netload rc file from my panel directory and adding to the panel. Haven't found a fix.

fragility14
October 19th, 2007, 04:19 PM
I upgraded Kubuntu and it works fine thus far, except that strangely enough MSN no longer works on Kopete (has a crash) but AIM still does...I downloaded a seperate program for MSN.

Stanley Krute
October 19th, 2007, 04:22 PM
Started my install last night. It finished up about 9 hrs later. And I have a fast Internet connection (3mbps). On a dual-booting (Win XP and Ubuntu) Toshiba Satellite a-105 laptop.

So far, the major problem is with sound. It no longer works.

The major win is wireless networking. It no longer drops every couple of minutes.

I'll revise this post as I solve the sound issue.

-- stan

malel
October 19th, 2007, 04:24 PM
There were some upgrades I had to do and then it said that 7.10 was available for upgrade . I clecked the button with intrepidation and it carried out the upgrade flawlessly. Took about 3 hours but it is all done now and running great . I have not been able to give it a thorough test yet but the first thing I noticed is that it seems to start up programs faster than 7.04

angkor
October 19th, 2007, 04:27 PM
Upgrade worked flawlessly for the first time.

I've upgraded a lot over the years and Egdy -> Feisty was good (only some minor issues I can't remember) this one just went perfect. Didnt need to fix anything,

YoYoSan
October 19th, 2007, 04:36 PM
Upgrade worked. Thanks.

On the edge of removing my dual boot but:

still to sort:

1. Screen resolution - 1280 x 1024 Intel driver on a laptop - again.

2. KNetwork manager forgot passwords - wireless access to sort - again.

Cheers

MeTheOrion
October 19th, 2007, 04:53 PM
Upgraded from 7.04 to 7.1 Gutsy..
That went flawlessly and everything seems to work fine.
But am having problems with any other upgrade done daily as i get some GPG key error.
Also my suspend is completely screwed. Never goes into suspend even with the right settings - and if i do a manual suspend, then it freezes and i need to reboot.

But all in all - a very good experience..

luminair
October 19th, 2007, 05:07 PM
The purpose of this thread is to share your experience installing/upgrading gutsy.

Did it worked flawlessly ?
Did you got problems ?
Did you manage to solve them ?
if yes how ?
...
...
.

Feel free to post your experience here and think to explain how you solved the problems you got, it might help other users in your case.

Thank you for contributing :KS

We are still waiting for someone to fix the update-manager so upgrading from 7.04 works... who knows how many people have the problem, but no one in development has even acknowledged the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/153980

Insane_Homer
October 19th, 2007, 05:23 PM
i got the usual problems with trying to install on a 2nd disk with XP on primary and GRUB giving an error 17.

Given up with trying to get GRUB to sort it out. I want to use boot.ini as the preferred OS selector and point to the Ubuntu install. Most of the articles I've found are pretty confusing. Mostly trying to figure out the disk/partition allocations.

not a major, will sort it out. just annoying trying for find old disks with dfisk to fix the MBR when it doen't work.

TR82
October 19th, 2007, 05:30 PM
My first post here using 7.10 :)

First a huge thank you to all the developers & individuals who have helped bring 7.10 together.

For me the upgrade to 7.10 was a bit hit & miss. I tried the upgrade option, from 7.04 to 7.10, but got half a hundred error messages. Probably could quite comfortably sit here & blame 7.10 for that, but I've every expectation it's because I've tweaked and twiddled about with 7.04 so much over the last month that I'd screwed it over. So that upgrade failure I'll blame on me.

So decided to go for the fresh install route. That didn't initially work either, kept getting error messages from the CD's I'd burned ... so eventually I tried burning a disc not at the maximum speed possible but at 20x and finally came up with a CD that would let me install 7.10 in full and without any major problems. So I'll blame that one on me too !

So now I'm sitting here and getting everything set up the way I like it. I've been using the search facility on this forum for all my little queries, rather than post questions here there and everywhere - have found that just about all my questions have already been posed - and answered - you just have to do a little bit of digging about.

Thanks again for 7.10. I am very grateful.

pvonbert
October 19th, 2007, 05:35 PM
Was just talkin to my son about the upgrade.
At home, a i368 upgraded w/o problem. Had to fight a bit the screen resolution as the mouse cursor kept disappearing when changing resolution, but i got it!
At work, a i386, printer and file,(samba) and mysql and apache server worked flawlessly, no problem whatsoever.
But my AMD64 was another story. And I am blaming only myself ... I used Automatix and a few other things I do not even remember, so had to tar the home directory and reinstall from scratch, and after a few hours is all running better than before.

Now is time to play ...
Congrats to all
p

Dave Otter
October 19th, 2007, 05:42 PM
Upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy.No sound! Had to revert to Feisty!
Dave Otter

Robor
October 19th, 2007, 05:52 PM
I've been running Feisty since launch and didn't have any problems at launch time or down the road. I upgraded to Gutsy yesterday and it was not nearly as smooth. My problems include:


- Random crashes in Firefox. UbuntuForums.org just failed to load completely and hung the browser. This has happened frequently and so far I haven't been able to pin down where/why it hangs.

- Black screens in windows when using compiz-fusion. So far it's happened in Thunderbird and several times in my Firefox bookmarks menus. Disabling desktop effects fixed the issue.

- Sound issues. With audio enabled in my WinXP VM I get popup errors about sound not being available in Ubuntu. This didn't happen at all in Feisty.

- VMWare Server performance is horrible. I get frequent 'pauses' where typing and mouse activity totally stop. It feels like I'm using RDP over a slow connection - it's really annoying.

- Streaming audio in my WinXP VM broke. I normally listen to an online radio feed in my VM because it doesn't load properly in native Ubuntu (Firefox). Now that stream connects, buffers, plays, buffers, plays, repeat. Tested it on another Windows box and the stream is fine.


Oh well. I guess that's what I can expect for upgrading to a just released OS. Hope bugs get worked out soon.

Henk Poley
October 19th, 2007, 06:08 PM
In short summary style ;-)

Tried updating a Gentoo install that hasn't been maintained for a >1.5y. Gave up. Ran the Kubuntu 7.10 desktop CD. Tried resizing the reiserfs partition I used for Gentoo with QtParted. It doesn't do reiserfs. Tried other methods. Found in the end that gparted ("gnome version of" QtParted) can resize reiserfs.

Installed Kubuntu. Reboot. rsync'ed my old homedir to new partition. Relogin. Fiddled with config to enable fancy shadows and transparent windows. Reboot. Installed Skype and Opera. Checked if kmail still reads my (very) old mailboxes. It does :-)

Everything seems to work fine.

gali98
October 19th, 2007, 06:09 PM
I'm sorry to say that this was not what I expected.
The install process went bad. when it firgured out my xorg.conf it messed up somewhere. It won't do my mouse correctly. I can't click or and it won't even detect when it hovers over something. But no worries... I just used a backup of my feisty conf and all is good. The updates are messed up, but I assume that is because the servers were hit hard. Overall it was a good experiance except for the mouse thing (which I think may have been caused by my wacom tablet)
Oh and one other weird thing (though for all I know this was supposed to happen)
My hard drives that were hda and hdb in feisty are sda and sdb in gusty.

mystery
October 19th, 2007, 06:10 PM
On my desktop the splash screen comes up OK, but reverts to a blank screen with the cursor blinking in the upper RHC of the monitor.

Same thing happens on an ASUS laptop.

Tried nosplash and verbose.

System stalled with this message.

Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0

Tried again after advice from a forum member to wait for 5 or 6 attempts to boot past this point but got a whole lot of code on screen and back to the cursor.

Dapper boots normally.

Garyu
October 19th, 2007, 06:20 PM
First I did an upgrade on my x64 installation of Feisty. It worked mostly, but I lost graphics. This helpful window came up and asked me for monitor and graphics card specifications, so I entered them but only got 800x600 resolution.

My system is:
AMD Athlon x64 AM2
nVidia GeForce 7600GT 256 Mb
Compaq S720 monitor (which btw isn't listed, but S710 is so I chose that one)

I actually didn't even try to resolve this. I just downloaded the CD and did a clean install (I have /home on a separate partition so it's the easiest way anyways). The clean installation worked great immediately, but since I could only choose one I answered on the upgrade issue in the poll.

ZolaMoukoko
October 19th, 2007, 06:27 PM
I tried to upgrade, Nvidia-glx failed, then soffice.bin crashed and now nothing loads at all. Looks like I'm downloading the CD and starting afresh.

locketine
October 19th, 2007, 06:33 PM
upgrade went really slowly, probably because everyone else in the world was also upgrading from feisty.

The upgrade removed beryl from my computer which is unfortunate because I'm already missing some of the cooler effects that aren't included with fusion like the magic lamp and fast window select. But at least it's more stable.

Firefox got seriously messed up which might be because it was open during the upgrade. Basically it froze every couple of seconds while browsing just about any site, with the exception of this one. The fix was to rebuild my mozilla profile by renaming .mozilla in my home directory.

Etienne Bertens
October 19th, 2007, 06:45 PM
The upgrade failed.I received a reply that several repositories could not be reached I tried to upgrade through the update manager. The servers are obviously going into meltdown. I'll leave it for a few days now.
:(

Crashedfiesta
October 19th, 2007, 06:51 PM
I have not even got past the first install screen. :mad:

Gutsy thrashes away at my floppy drive then crashes out at the first hurdle. I've tried the alternate iso with no more luck. I've even disconnected the floppy drive and disabled the FDD controller in BIOS but that makes no difference.

I've been using 6.06 successfully but I really want to upgrade. Is there no-one who knows what this problem is???

django_sr
October 19th, 2007, 06:55 PM
The upgrade process from feisty to gutsy gave me troubles!!

On Xubuntu I started the upgrade graphically and saw it downloading the files and upgrading my /etc/apt/sources.list to gutsy. The upgrade process asked me some questions about files under /etc like passwd (this one I let the upgrade script install newly). So far, so good.

However, I had to leave for work and thought I would finish it when I got back.

Then when I returned from work, I got back at my PC and wanted to start again.

Troubles awaited....because the xscreenserver 4.2. was refusing to log me in again, and kept complaining after I had given it my correct password. The answer I got was that my authentication had failed.

I then managed to ssh into the machine, but I couldn't get my screen back so I couldn't know where the upgrade script was....

I rebooted and saw a glimpse of the upgrade script, that it would be finished oin 2 minutes and then after the machine rebooted, I saw that there was a kernel panic and I couldn't start th PC.

I then reverted to systemrescuecd and got my files of the harddrive and now I'm using the xubuntu 7.10 iso to install the system.

eladner
October 19th, 2007, 06:59 PM
Upgraded from Fiesty to Gutsy via update-manager.

A few minor issues like it's hard to keep the NVIDIA drivers installed and restricted-manager doesn't work well from the command line (what happened to bulletproof-X?)

When logged in Gnome, clicking the red logout button in the upper right freezes X completely. Have to SSH in adn kill the process or ctrl-alt-backspace out.

Sunn3K7aas
October 19th, 2007, 07:04 PM
Did a fresh install on my Compaq 2100 laptop, 40GB HDD, AMD Athlon XP2400+, ATI IGP320M. It went well, despite the fact that my BIOS has randomly decided not to recognise my CD-ROM drive anymore (it's a gamble whether or not it will find it when I boot up). Really only two things have cropped up so far: X decided my graphics card was a "vesa", but this was easily fixed in xorg.conf (switched to the "radeon" driver). The other problem is my wireless card, which is a Netgear WG111v2 usb dongle. I've had this problem since Feisty. Network manager for some reason does not like this card, it hardly ever connects to an open network and has never connected to a secure network. Up till now I've just used the "sudo dhclient wlan0" command to connect to an unsecure network and wifi-radar to connect to a WEP secured network, I've not had much luck with WPA. The wierd thing is, is that KNetworkManager works almost perfectly. Well, it hasn't been too much trouble though, no worries right now. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with 7.10! :)

genterminl
October 19th, 2007, 07:22 PM
Within the past two weeks I upgraded from dapper to edgy to feisty and now to gutsy. In general, no major problems. Evolution and Firefox kept all their settings (except it took a bit of work to get Flash fully upgraded). My big problem is that my repository list seems to still have some remnants of dapper, so I get some errors every time I refresh the package list. I'm going to do some more searching before posting a new thread about that.

buntunub
October 19th, 2007, 07:31 PM
X server issues when attempting dual monitors via Screens and Graphics.

HP dv2415nr Lappy w/Nvidia 6150 integrated.

Also, after MUCH dickering around and finally using the nvidia-settings utility to force fix xorg, I got dual monitors working and Compiz, but frequent and random lockups ........still..........occur. This is an issue that follows Feisty up. Will probably follow into the next release too as its apparently not considered serious that peoples X screens are buggy while in Compiz, and dual monitors via that joke they threw in with Gutsy called "Screens and Graphics" cant properly setup xorg.

Jimlas53
October 19th, 2007, 07:51 PM
I upgraded one machine from Dapper to Edgy to Feisty, finally to Gutsy RC1. Other than the amount of time it takes to do so many upgrades, everything works well. This is a desktop machine Gutsy has been very stable, even when running VirtualBox with the Feisty package.

My notebook has been running Gutsy, but being a Toshiba, it seems cursed with no audio and no SD card. I upgraded from Feisty to GutsyRC1 with no issues (other than those noted). Did a clean install 2 days ago, did not resolve audio:(

GOOD JOB devs! Thanks!

-Doug

mastercho
October 19th, 2007, 07:52 PM
worked, only took a couple hours, but now that xgl is supposedly installed properly, my whole desktop is running really really slow. and its annoying. used to be nice and fast running. with no issues. now just scrolling down the forums takes forever. its like im stuck on 5fps for my desktop or something..

when i get it resolved i shall be a happy camper. but its making me not use my comp at all.

old_salt
October 19th, 2007, 07:59 PM
Clean install of Gutsy on an HP DV900z is NOT working. VERY disappointed in this release as less works than the previous release. I can't even compile source code because the tools aren't even available.

This is a serious issue and unless your running a DELL then steer clear of Gutsy.

EXCiD3
October 19th, 2007, 08:07 PM
Hi,
Well I decided to do a fresh install (finally got rid of windows), and unfortunately I'm one of the few out there suffering from a black screen at boot-up, followed by an approximate 5 minute wait before Gutsy then suddenly bursts into life.
After that it works fine, but the ambiguity of the black screen however was/is worrying and the boot-time is atrocious. Hopefully, this'll all get fixed very soon!

Not sure if this will help, but removing the splash option from the boot parameters has been reported to fix this.

As for my installation results, I am quite disappointed. Everything works great in Feisty, with a few minor tweaks here and there. In Gutsy, my nvidia driver does not work correctly. I have tried quite a few different things producing no usuable nvidia driver. I have been forced to revert to the NV driver meaning I am unable to use Compiz or correctly configure my dual monitors. Other various problems I have encountered are unable to compile from source as the appropriate dependencies are unvailable.

I have decided to return to Feisty as I can get the support that I need. Until Gutsy is updated to fix these issues I will return to Feisty.

Hawksail
October 19th, 2007, 08:12 PM
There doesn't seem to be a category for "dead in the water".

The initial file download consistently returns a "file not found" error.

I guessed server load issues, but have tried at all hours over three days and am still getting the same error.

Not sure about a fix - I'll probably try the alternate install CD at some point.

agent8131
October 19th, 2007, 08:22 PM
I upgraded my AMD64 Kubuntu desktop system from Feisty to Gutsy today and documented my experiences. I tried to use the graphical updaters but ended up using apt-get instead. I concluded that if you use the shell for other system work then you should probably use it for upgrading. If you never use a shell then hopefully the graphical tools will work for you. I then did some configuration work and some cleanup of old packages. Anyone who's interested can read the details here:

Upgrading Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) to 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) from a shell (mostly) (http://ubuntumagnet.com/2007/10/upgrading-kubuntu-7-04-feisty-fawn-7-10-gutsy-gibbon-shell-mostly)

Configuring Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) following the Upgrade from 7.04 (Fesity Fawn) (http://ubuntumagnet.com/2007/10/configuring-kubuntu-7-10-gutsy-gibbon-following-upgrade-7-04-fesity-fawn)

Sun_Paladin
October 19th, 2007, 08:26 PM
I was upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 but my screensaver kicked in during the install and screwed up that method. Something happened with the installed files and I couldn't access any of the kernels that I had in dual boot. Tried the Live CD and it was apparently corrupted and stopped at 75% install. Then things really got bad. Apparently that screwed up my MBR and so now I can't access Windows except through a live CD. Got another copy of the Live CD but Ubiquity keeps on crashing. Still trying to figure out the text based installer and wondering if I'm going to ever get access to my stuff in Windows before Monday. I'll probably not have Ubuntu for a while until the developers get the install method down pat. It's been a very long day.

EDIT: Finally got everything working when the fresh install was completed with the alternate CD. Haven't tried out Linux yet as I was quite ecstatic at getting Windows back online. Losing all my school documents would have been catastrophic. The text base installer is the way I will be going in the future since everything went off without a hitch.

Calash
October 19th, 2007, 08:28 PM
I had a couple of problems, but I was able to resolve them.


VirtualBox would not start after the upgrade. This was due to the repo being disabled, and a simple visit to the Software Source area cleared that up fine.

The system then began to hang after login, never loading gnome-panels. This was due to an outdated version of Compiz-Fusion installed by a 3rd party repo. There are some good instructions over at the Desktop Effects forum to clear this up, but basically you need to completely remove all of the old Compiz stuff, including the config files in my case. Reinstalled the ones for Gutsy and all is good.

Had to reinstall Emerald as well. Small step but still a hiccup.

In all it was fairly smooth. This weekend I will be doing my MythTV box....that should be interesting :)

mycotropic
October 19th, 2007, 09:10 PM
Very nearly flawless.

Update install on a Lenovo 3000 C200. My Fiesty install would not find my wireless or my sound. Gutsy found both. The sound has to be turned up in ALSAMIXER though since there is no level control available anywhere that I can see.

I believe I have one problem with a legacy program (Haploview) that requires a specific SunJava and it isn't the one that comes with Gutsy.

Other than that though everything is where I left it and working fine.

http://ubuntuforums.org/images/smilies/guitar.gif

linuxjoe
October 19th, 2007, 09:12 PM
upgrade failed after installing. only got the desktop background and no menus or other desktop functions. mouse moved around the screen but no mouse click functions or keyboard functions


then tried a fresh install from cd installed but on reboot only a blank screen. no splash screen or other indication that the system is starting. system will run with the livecd though

monday morning i will dig into it when i get back to work.

Photon
October 19th, 2007, 09:19 PM
Got the live cd to boot, but could not install it. Installation gets stuck at 22% all the time. And when i used the check cd for errors option, it showed one error. I lost my previous ubuntu installation (7.04) as i had to do a fresh install cause of change in hardware.

TZRick
October 19th, 2007, 09:28 PM
Linux rocks!

The only issue I had with the upgrade was the Medibuntu sources had changed. I removed the sources, performed the upgrade, found the correct location and everything works! I'm not sure I can find the changes in the O/S, but one major change is that flash works much, much faster in my browser of choice: Opera. I used to have problems and would launch Firefox when visiting Flash-heavy sites, but for some reason, Flash absolutely screams now in Opera on Gutsy!

In any case, no problems and one improvement so far, on hardware that is over 6 years old!

Awesome job guys!

larryboythedog
October 19th, 2007, 09:53 PM
Worked out of the box! I do have twin monitors and can easily get a twin head set working with about 2 or 3 clicks! Unfortunately My video card won't let me have that much desktop real estate AND compiz! Oh well. I can't seem to get my monitor on the digital connection to be the default but thaat's no real hardship... Great job Thanks. (The final candidate seems much more stable than the final release candidate was.) I'm loving my life!

Can+~
October 19th, 2007, 09:59 PM
It worked! I was complaining about the LiveCD bootin problems, but when I installed it, it automatically recognized my screen size and offered the Ati drivers!

I can't use fglrx, but this is an issue I had with Feisty too, looks like my Ati X800 is the problem =(. Compiz disabled, but everything else is nice.

American_Outcast
October 19th, 2007, 09:59 PM
The upgrade worked for me without any problems at all. So I voted Upgrade - worked flawlessly

ZenWarrior
October 19th, 2007, 10:02 PM
Nothing but problems. I won't even go into them b/c Ubuntu has already wasted far too much of my time today.

Market share? Ubuntu made no friends, but *LOTS* of enemies, today at my company. In fact, it's goodbye to Ubuntu forever for several people I thought I might persuade otherwise.

Me? I've decided to buy Vista. (Yea, it was that bad.)

tonywhelan
October 19th, 2007, 10:11 PM
I chose to do a fresh install onto a second hard disk rather than over-write my 7.04 installation. Whilst things were a bit slow as all the mirrors were being hammered by people like me who couldn't wait a couple more days, it all went well.

Only mistake I made was to leave the original hard disk drive connected whilst running the Install for the new disk. I wanted to copy over my documents, settings etc from old to new after the installation was done, and that worked ok. But the installer seemed to assume that the new disk didsn't need to be bootable, as there was already a bootable disk present. Not a problem till I removed the old disk today, and the system wouldn't boot! Had to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to refer to correct drive number (hd0 not hd1) and ran a Grub utility I had on CD to make the new disk bootable. Everything lovely now.

Next time I install an OS to a new drive I will disconnect any other hard disks first. :)

scohar70
October 19th, 2007, 10:13 PM
I upgraded two computers (1 server, 1 laptop) and both worked nearly flawlessly for me. Gutsy fixed two long-standing problems I had in Feisty: poor video resolution and no good codecs to play quicktime.

I had to reinstall hplip 2.7.10 (out today) to get my fax working again, but apart from that the upgrade was amazingly clean.

:guitar::guitar::guitar:

prestidigination
October 19th, 2007, 10:31 PM
Fresh install on a laptop that had been running 7.04
Screen stuck at a single resolution that is unusable.
Firefox has no flash and the pluggin finder service locks up.
Unable to steam .pls MP3
I'm going back to 7.04

quixote
October 19th, 2007, 10:41 PM
Lots of problems. I did the recommended upgrade via the network. Well, it was on the first day of release, so I think the entire world was downloading the Gibbon. I have a medium-fast broadband connection, and it was crawling at sub-dialup speeds.

I had my Feisty fully up to date, but there was no "Version Upgrade" button in my kde or "Update Manager" in my gnome, as advertised. I have no idea why, and I got bored with trying to figure it out. So I just followed the command line instructions for the server upgrade. (sudo apt-get install update-manager-core, and sudo do-release-upgrade.) Possibly, that was stupid. But it trundled at, as I say, slow dialup speed half the day and all of the night, and when I woke up in the morning I had to answer a few questions to get the upgrade to finish.

It booted fine. It preserved my old settings for Firefox, my desktop, and so on. I was quite pleased. I like OO 2.3. I like the new icons and such.

I normally use kde. In gnome the background has become very dark, so I wanted to change it. The desktop configuration didn't work at all. The window came up, but none of the buttons (except "close," thankfully) were active.

My big interest in Gutsy was to see if it made connecting to Bluetooth devices and my wireless easier. I have a Dell Inspiron 5150 with a Broadcom 4309 (ver 3) chip. As far as I can tell, this was the only one ever made, and it never works with anything. Despite a couple of hours spent trying to install ndiswrapper without my beloved Automatix, I got nowhere. And who knows what I broke in the process. The other thing that amazes me is the WEP-only default encryption. I mean, I have WPA on my Feisty, for Pete's sake.

The Bluetooth didn't work by itself. I'll try some troubleshooting tomorrow, but my track record so far has not been good. (I'm trying to establish as connection to a treo 650. I also have a hack on it to turn on bluetooth DUN.)

So my overall impression is that the Gibbon would be a great companion if it would come out of the trees. I'm waiting for a supply of bananas to use as bribes.

No, seriously. It would help to have the command easily available that one needs to fix broken installs. It was sudo dpkg something, or sudo something something. You know the one I mean? :) Because for all I know, there's just something incomplete about my install that needs to be fixed.

M_N_M74
October 19th, 2007, 10:44 PM
did a fresh install, removed windows. The only problem is upon booting I get a blank screen have to use ctrl/alt/f-1 to see anything. Have no idea why it's doing this...any ideas?

M_N_M

EXCiD3
October 19th, 2007, 11:07 PM
did a fresh install, removed windows. The only problem is upon booting I get a blank screen have to use ctrl/alt/f-1 to see anything. Have no idea why it's doing this...any ideas?

M_N_M

Pretty sure this is the splash problem. Just remove "splash" from the boot parameters. See if that works.

the lush