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tighem
October 18th, 2007, 01:38 PM
Basically keep doing what you are doing. Here's some areas that I think could be improved:
1) Better integration of wpa_supplicant into gnome's network manager and have network manager keep track of wireless network profiles.
2) Suspend/Hibernate/Resume - this needs to "just work". Lots of laptops flying off the shelves and unfortunately this really doesn't "just work" for a lot of people.
3) Ability to read OOXML files in Open Office (Don't really care about saving in the format but we do need to be able to convert it to the Office 97/XP/2003 formats). By focusing on reading instead of writing OOXML, I think this can be achieved much more quickly. Also, I know OOXML is a bad standard, but the reality is it's out there and growing in use.
4) Continued improvements in Evolution<->Exchange connectivity. It dramatically improved speed wise in Gutsy, now the focus needs to be on making it more stable.
5) Performance tuning. I'd like to see Hardy focus on overall performance enhancements. I hear my hard drive far too often on a machine with 2GB of RAM. I still see the grey busy window too often for my liking, too for a dual core machine.
Zdravko
October 18th, 2007, 03:50 PM
I don't get the 1. point :(
2 - I agree.
3. I care about Office 97/XP/2003 format!
4. Nope. I don't use Evolution.
5. Yepp. Fully agree with you. Hardy must run on a 256MB RAM machine!
FlyingIsFun1217
October 18th, 2007, 04:38 PM
As to the Open Office issue, this is something that you will have to address the OOo devs.
And yeah, I'd love to see performance tuning. Maybe different releases for laptops, desktops, etc.
FlyingIsFun1217
ZebCarnell
October 18th, 2007, 05:39 PM
It looks like (from a news post I read the other day) that Open Office may take over development for Thunderbird (after they lost the 2 main devs) and bring it up to speed with M$'s Outlook.....
Izkata
October 18th, 2007, 09:14 PM
3) Ability to read OOXML files in Open Office (Don't really care about saving in the format but we do need to be able to convert it to the Office 97/XP/2003 formats). By focusing on reading instead of writing OOXML, I think this can be achieved much more quickly. Also, I know OOXML is a bad standard, but the reality is it's out there and growing in use.
One of my friends found a third-party Open Office plugin for Linux that supports opening and saving the 2007 formats. So it does exist.
w3stfa11
October 18th, 2007, 10:57 PM
ooxml translater
http://download.novell.com/SummaryFree.jsp?buildid=ESrjfdE4U58~
Zdravko
October 19th, 2007, 07:35 AM
Performance tuning is very important! Don't neglect it.
ronacc
October 19th, 2007, 10:33 AM
perfomance tuing is very much an individual thing . preload a bunch of things to cut down on 1st run drive access and you increase boot times and memory requirements . also exactly what do you preload ? your apps aren't my apps . maybe some tools to make fine tuning easier or heuristicly adapt to the individual user.
Zdravko
October 19th, 2007, 12:41 PM
Yes, exactly.
airencracken
October 19th, 2007, 12:50 PM
I totally agree with 2. I'm fairly sure that laptop use is on the rise (I'm contributing from one right now) and there are a lot of problems with laptop hardware. For instance, my particular laptop doesn't suspend/hibernate properly, nor does my headphone jack work, and the mobile video card is poorly supported (ati 200m). Since laptop computing is very popular with less than tech savvy users, laptop issues are important to a user friendly distro like Ubuntu.
Zdravko
October 19th, 2007, 12:54 PM
Okay. We need a laptop flavor. Definitely.
screaminj3sus
October 19th, 2007, 04:43 PM
perfomance tuing is very much an individual thing . preload a bunch of things to cut down on 1st run drive access and you increase boot times and memory requirements . also exactly what do you preload ? your apps aren't my apps . maybe some tools to make fine tuning easier or heuristicly adapt to the individual user.
They could include soemthing similar to vista's superfetch which learns what apps you use the most and when you use them.
amlucent23
October 20th, 2007, 02:54 AM
They could include soemthing similar to vista's superfetch which learns what apps you use the most and when you use them.
So that it can report them back to Bill so he can decide at what date is best to come in the middle of the night and eat your babies!
aamukahvi
October 20th, 2007, 04:45 AM
Basically keep doing what you are doing. Here's some areas that I think could be improved:
1) Better integration of wpa_supplicant into gnome's network manager and have network manager keep track of wireless network profiles.
Network Manager 0.7 is the thing you're looking for, and it's pretty much guaranteed to be in HH:
http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/10/05/networkmanager-07-feature-list/
rahulthewall3000
October 20th, 2007, 08:49 AM
I just despise network-manager, the interface and everything about it. During the feisty development process, wireless just did not work with it. Now, everything seems to work with it, at least all that I tried work, but now I prefer WICD.
http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
It has a much better UI, and works pretty well.
Zdravko
October 20th, 2007, 12:51 PM
Anyway - Hardy will be the perfect OS!
tighem
October 21st, 2007, 02:55 AM
I just despise network-manager, the interface and everything about it. During the feisty development process, wireless just did not work with it. Now, everything seems to work with it, at least all that I tried work, but now I prefer WICD.
http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
It has a much better UI, and works pretty well.
I'll have to check it out. I think network-manager falls way short. I should have made that more clear on my #1 above.
Zdravko
October 21st, 2007, 03:14 AM
Yes, network-manager must be improved.
tighem
October 21st, 2007, 06:39 PM
I'll have to check it out. I think network-manager falls way short. I should have made that more clear on my #1 above.
Installed it today and it is much better than network manager so far. Not sure why this isn't included by default (but I'm sure I'll figure that out soon enough).
rahulthewall3000
October 22nd, 2007, 03:04 PM
Installed it today and it is much better than network manager so far. Not sure why this isn't included by default (but I'm sure I'll figure that out soon enough).
Hear Hear!
ssam
October 22nd, 2007, 03:27 PM
They could include soemthing similar to vista's superfetch which learns what apps you use the most and when you use them.
there is a package called preload. i install it on all machines install.
also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticBootAndApplicationPrefetchingSpec
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