Hardy Heron Count down starts here!

[zhanglini]

6 months to go!

[mybunche]

Hope the Ubuntu Dell's will be in Australia by then.

[Foxmike]

Hope the Ubuntu Dell's will be in Australia by then.
And in Canada :) Although it's available not so far, it's still annoying to go to US just to buy a laptop:)

[mybunche]

I guess we have to be patient. On the bright side it will be a better system by then.

[Can+~]

183 days to go :) (using timeanddate.com)

[asimon]

I am already waiting ...

[GutsyGibbon]

182 days / 4386 hours / 263185 minutes / 15791120 seconds

Left.

[Foxmike]

15791120 seconds Left.
OMG!!! I'll have to count all that!:D

[Paul820]

:lolflag: you are all mad, we have only just got gutsy and you are waiting for heron?????

[autocrosser]

:lolflag: you are all mad, we have only just got gutsy and you are waiting for heron?????

I'm READY for some alpha breaking goodness!!!!!!!!:guitar:

[asimon]

:lolflag: you are all mad, we have only just got gutsy and you are waiting for heron?????
Of course, new fun with a new development cycle. Bring on the breakage!

[mikeyphi]

One needs a hobby to stay sane!!!

[tech9]

6 months to go!

cool

[nxvl]

When will the repos up? i can wait for working on the next release :D

[ozbalaban]

still waiting...

[FredB]

When will the repos up? i can wait for working on the next release :D

In about a week.

Enjoy gutsy for now. Debian Sid is not that advanced right now. The only point is gcc 4.2 instead of 4.1.

[Tlon]

I'm opposed to the next version of Ubuntu on principle. Heroin is a social scourge. It's ironic to name a distro that prides itself on community after it. For shame, Ubuntu, for shame [-X

[Lster]

:)

[Ripfox]

Yea! Yea! Yea! Let's break stuff!! :):):)

[tech9]

for now, we have to get the bugs out of gutsy

[atomicblue]

Is it out yet??? :lolflag:

*clicking refresh in anticipation* :lolflag:

[bethaviv]

Is it out yet??? :lolflag:

*clicking refresh in anticipation* :lolflag:

HAYAMA!!! (I love kodocha!!)

[zhanglini]

OMG!!! I'll have to count all that!:D

No, you will sleep thru much of that.

[atomicblue]

HAYAMA!!! (I love kodocha!!)

wo_ot! Finally someone who knows Hayama!!!! yay!!!

[hikaricore]

I'm opposed to the next version of Ubuntu on principle. Heroin is a social scourge. It's ironic to name a distro that prides itself on community after it. For shame, Ubuntu, for shame [-X

I really hope you're joking and actually realize it's Hardy Heron not Hardy Heroin..

:lolflag:

[Zdravko]

I think that most of you here are more or less Ubuntu fanatics! You have Gutsy now and you dare to want Hardy? No way! I have no Gutsy. What should I say? 6 months of waiting :(

[rbmorse]

:lolflag: you are all mad, we have only just got gutsy and you are waiting for heron?????

The thrill comes not from the kill, but the chase.

[Zdravko]

Killers think the same way!

[earobinson]

lol jumping the gun arnt we a bit.

[RevolutionMaster]

Where's the alpha??? *Looks for Alpha version*

[benhagerty]

and so the wait begins all over again haha

[autocrosser]

OK EVERYONE!!!! take a look at:

http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/

You will see "hardy" in the LIST!!!!

:guitar:

CANONICAL COMMERCIAL REPOSITORY

[SteveHillier]

15791120 seconds Left.

By the time you have finished saying it it's changed. A bit like Ubuntu really!!

[GutsyGibbon]

By the time you have finished saying it it's changed. A bit like Ubuntu really!!

Actually, i've posted it in less then a second. ;)
I was thinking about posting ms, but it did change.

[Zdravko]

May I join the count down? Yes, of course!

[zhanglini]

http://www.7is7.com/otto/countdown.html?year=2008&month=4&date=19&hrs=0&min=0&sec=0&tz=-360&title=Hardy&lang=en&show=dhms&mode=r&cdir=down&bgcolor=%23CCFFFF&fgcolor=%23000000

[zhanglini]

Supposed to be a countdown clock above, shoooot, does not work.

[Zdravko]

What is this supposed to mean?

[zhanglini]

What is this supposed to mean?

I was trying to link a countdown clock in the thread, so that we can see it tick, tick tick down.
Just being nerdy.

[bethaviv]

I was trying to link a countdown clock in the thread, so that we can see it tick, tick tick down.
Just being nerdy.

There's a desklet that I have going that is already counting down to April 24th =)

[Zdravko]

Show it!

[bethaviv]

It's a desklet and I'm not home so I can't screenshot my desktop at the moment.

[Zdravko]

Okay. We will wait for it.

[zhanglini]

Okay. We will wait for it.
And we are still waiting....

[bethaviv]

And we are still waiting....

Waiting for Hardy or my screenshot? xD

[zhanglini]

Waiting for Hardy or my screenshot? xD
Waiting for that countdown clock

[CAD-MAN]

I really hope you're joking and actually realize it's Hardy Heron not Hardy Heroin..

:lolflag:

Hahaha!!!

Does anybody know what the version after Hardy is going to be called? I think we'll have trouble thinking of a suitable adjective and animal that both begin with 'I' . Any ideas? :lolflag:

How about 'Itchy Imp' or 'Irate Iguana'? :rolleyes:

[zhanglini]

Hahaha!!!

How about 'Itchy Imp' or 'Irate Iguana'? :rolleyes:

Holy cow!!!
I was reading your post and instantly came up with Itchy Iguana, BEFORE I saw your suggestion. This is it!!!

[CAD-MAN]

Holy cow!!!
I was reading your post and instantly came up with Itchy Iguana, BEFORE I saw your suggestion. This is it!!!

Ha!! Its got a bit of a ring to it hasn't it? - "Im running Ubuntu Itchy 8.04" :lolflag:

Maybe we should put this forward to the developers? :p

[zhanglini]

Ha!! Its got a bit of a ring to it hasn't it? - "Im running Ubuntu Itchy 8.04" :lolflag:

Maybe we should put this forward to the developers? :p

Absolutely!

[u-slayer]

ubuntu 8.10 Itchy Iguana!:lolflag:

[zhanglini]

Itchy to take over the desktop!

[zhanglini]

I just realized that Hardy alpha 1 is coming out this week, time flies!

Anyone going to try it? I won't cuz I just installed Gutsy and am still muddling thru.

[bluedragon436]

I am actually going to give it a try.....I have more than one computer, so I can have the time to muddle thru anything that needs attention for me...

[zhanglini]

I just realized that Hardy alpha 1 is coming out this week, time flies!

Anyone going to try it? I won't cuz I just installed Gutsy and am still muddling thru.

[zhanglini]

I am actually going to give it a try.....I have more than one computer, so I can have the time to muddle thru anything that needs attention for me...

Keep us posted!

[bluedragon436]

Keep us posted!


Will Do!!! I am sure I won't have any huge issues... but we will see in time... I am willing to be a guinea pig!!!


I think Itchy Iguana would be an awesome name for the next distro after Hardy!!! But that is just me!!!

[autocrosser]

I have been using it from the time the repos opened--had to reinstall once--there is still a problem with xserver & nvidia-glx--if you want to cook your own nvidia drivers--all is good, if not--wait til they are done...no time frame right now........I have been updating everything but Xorg.

[Zdravko]

Hey, why doesn't someone create a webpage with a counter that counts the days left until the Hardy Heron release? It would be a nice idea to promote Ubuntu through the world by pasting the web code in several billions web sites!

[magikx21]

Hey, why doesn't someone create a webpage with a counter that counts the days left until the Hardy Heron release? It would be a nice idea to promote Ubuntu through the world by pasting the web code in several billions web sites!

How about someone redoing that countdown to Gutsy thing for webpages?

[chrismine]

Ha!! Its got a bit of a ring to it hasn't it? - "Im running Ubuntu Itchy 8.04" :lolflag:

Maybe we should put this forward to the developers? :p

It should Ubuntu Itchy 8.10

[Zdravko]

How about someone redoing that countdown to Gutsy thing for webpages?
Yes. +1!!! :KS

[jso2897]

I upgraded to alpha last night, on my test machine:
500 mhz PIII
384mb RAM
nVidia Vanta Card - Ubuntu Prop. Drivers, no rendering.
Yamaha Onboard sound

So far, stable and working. haven't had a chance to test it out.
We'll see.:)

[zhanglini]

I upgraded to alpha last night, on my test machine:
500 mhz PIII
384mb RAM
nVidia Vanta Card - Ubuntu Prop. Drivers, no rendering.
Yamaha Onboard sound

So far, stable and working. haven't had a chance to test it out.
We'll see.:)

Cool, so far so good, would like to hear from more peops.

[utUtu]

Cool, so far so good, would like to hear from more peops.

I see the daily builds are now ready. 5 iterations just for today -11/29 !!!

[viking777]

The link above is to the daily builds, as I understand it these are not the same as the Alpha release which is meant as a relatively stable starting point for testers. See the sticky on testing:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600644

I'm sure you will correct me if I am wrong!!

[ericartman]

Started 8.04 this morning,went well so far, typing on it now.

Cart

[zhanglini]

I hope Hardy will solve my BCM4306 wireless problem once for all. I enabled the firmware in "Restricted" in Gusty, the wireless card light came on, but I could not access the internet anyway.

[ukripper]

I see the daily builds are now ready. 5 iterations just for today -11/29 !!!

I have already got conky setup with countdown and ticking! every 6 months

[ukripper]

I hope Hardy will solve my BCM4306 wireless problem once for all. I enabled the firmware in "Restricted" in Gusty, the wireless card light came on, but I could not access the internet anyway.

BCM4306 works perfect on my acer laptop with gutsy using restricted drivers

[Spenzer4Hire]

Alpha 1 is out!

http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-1/

[ukripper]

Alpha 1 is out!

http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-1/

Are we having any better features than we had in gutsy?

[Zdravko]

Are we having any better features than we had in gutsy?
As far as I am informed - not yet. Alpha 2 may start the new features, however :KS

[amano]

Not too many big features are there yet, but due to the debian merges many programs were updated to new versions and thus offer new features.

The bigger gnome improvements are coming in only slowly, especially the new nautilus port to GIO. Besides the nautilius port the new audio backend PulseAudio would be the most radical change under the hood. It is already there but not enabled by default.

That leaves you with the new kernel. CFS should be the biggest new feature there, a new CPU scheduler which promises a snappier desktop.

[ukripper]

Wil KDE4 be default in Hardy?

[Zdravko]

Wil KDE4 be default in Hardy?
Eventually - no. But who cares? It is bloated and resource-hog, anyway.

[ukripper]

Eventually - no. But who cares? It is bloated and resource-hog, anyway.

True i last used KDE was 4 years ago on Redhat and that was it. Didn't appeal to me, thought would give another try to KDE4 when it comes out

[eremini]

Eventually - no. But who cares? It is bloated and resource-hog, anyway.

Those who want their DE to actually have features

[KibaSkinner]

sorry asking this here, but I don't know where to post. I've some problems with ubuntu recognizing my sound card, ive tried everything but without sucess. I dont want the solution in this tread, I just wanna ask if improvement with hardware compatibility will be like a virtue in this Hardy Heron version. I just have this problem in my laptop tshiba a135, my desktop works very nice with gutsy :guitar: :lolflag:

[Zdravko]

Those who want their DE to actually have features
Tell me a feature.

[allforcarrie]

I hope they fix this toshiba sound problem alot of people are having.

[ukripper]

I hope they fix this toshiba sound problem alot of people are having.

New Asla driver fixes most cases I believe Hardy will compile it with its kernel

http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/56600/ALSA-driver.html

[zhanglini]

My internet freezes a lot under Gutsy, (did not have that under Feisty). I hope Hardy will fix that.
I don't use Ubuntu that much because I mostly use my computer to surf and to track stocks using my spreadsheet ( both don't work with Ub, due to wireless and lack of stock track in OO). With my limited experience with Gusty, it is not better than Feisty ---- at least I had wireless b4.
My interest in Ub is burning out, XP is here to stay.
%$^&%*&!

[ToxinPowe]

"My internet freezes a lot under Gutsy, (did not have that under Feisty)"

Problems with ipv6 maybe? See "how-to-disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon" in Google.

PS: Sorry for my poor English.

[Tux0r]

8.04 is gonna rock.

[zhanglini]

Problems with ipv6 maybe? See "how-to-disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon" in Google.

No, this does not work. Thank you though. I am going to use XP till Hardy comes out, and that would be the last try I will give to Linux.
As much as I hate Micro$oft, XP has been working without too much trouble and life is too short to keep on tweaking the computer.

[Zdravko]

Can you all please stop with this off-topic!? It is about COUNT DOWN, not about problems!

[zhanglini]

Can someone share his impression of Hardy alpha 3?
Thanks

[jerrylamos]

It's an Alpha, a bit rough with some problems if they hit you. For a clue do
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
and do a search on "Alpha 3". There are some fixes in case you run into those problems.

Of course if it was running smooth they could ship it but that's months off.

Jerry

[zhanglini]

I just realized we just passed the midpoint of the long wait:)

[Tux0r]

I remember the 7.04 countdown thread. I got the last post in the 7.04 section before it closed :P

[Leon945]

i cannot wait any looongeeeer!

[Kapitän Rotbart]

Man I hate the wait... the only way I could possibly install Hardy Heron (right now Alpha 4) on my computer would be to take the HD out of my laptop hard drive, hook it up to another computer, install Hardy (using the official alpha install disc, hooked up to a computer where all the parts are supported), then boot it in that computer to run a script I get from a tarball to tweak the kernel and then put that hard drive back into my laptop and go through the nightmare of trying to figure out what driver to use for my obscure internal USB WLAN peripheral (I use a tweaked install disc, which is good for half a dozen laptop models and everything works out of the box). In other words, I'm not going to bother testing 8.04 Hardy Heron prior to its release (I'll even wait for that custom ISO to become available, so I may have to wait even longer... on the plus side, the repositories will be quick by the time I get around to installing hardy).

What I expect from 8.10 Itchy Iguana (if not already integrated in Hardy):

A prompt upon install for restricted drivers and restricted extras;
All compiz plugins to be included (hopefully Hardy has this);
Better troubleshoot for dependencies (for instance a prompt to install required dependencies for an application install);
Full support for Exaile audio player (if not a better Gnome full featured audio player);
Revise the extensions for the Epiphany browser (and hopefully add some) and change its icon (hopefully addressed in Hardy);
GUI for FFMPEG;
Pidgin to support the Spellcheck language switcher as it did in Feisty (using plugins made available for the version of Pidgin at the time of Feisty);
Ubuntu's default virtualization application (so I heard included in Hardy) to have full USB and audio support (like VirtualBox, but Gnome and GPL);
Not only make "Places" and "System" menus customizable, but also determine how many bookmarks are listed on the menu before they become a sub-menu (and make "Search for Files" list recent search queries in a recent menu, and customize the display of "Recent Documents" by determining how recent they must be to display and how many items may be listed, all in one evident menu)


I really hope these things are addressed in Hardy, and the Hardy team still has time to impress me (so far they have, but I want more screenshots! all the blogs on the Internet just post the screenshots posted on the official website... so lame). If we want community development, screenshots are a great way of showing what works and what doesn't... I want screenshots of bugs, of FF3-b3ta with different themes and extensions (and under different desktop themes), I want to see multi-tasking, new stuff in GIMP and OOo, get some apps running in Wine including IEs4Linux and even try Wine-Doors, let's see how fast KDE apps will be supported by PulseAudio in Gnome... web surfers could give constructive feedback to the screenshots and more bug reports can be addressed quicker.

Where are the alpha users out there? I would sooo blog about it if my computer were compatible... please link to your own screenshots and share your findings. Try beta software in Hardy Alpha and testify the results :D

[Gina]

Doesn't your laptop have a CDROM drive? Even my oldest working laptop (about 9 or 10 years old) has a CDROM drive - no way that'll run Hardy - it struggles with Xubunu Dapper.

But installing using another computer should work - Linux is transportable, it picks up the hardware on bootup.

Do you have any info on your wireless adapter? eg. from lsusb. (or Windows Device whatnot)

Oh and I'm running Hardy on my old desktop (P3 650Mhz) and no.1 laptop (Athlon). So I'm testing as are many others on here. And filing bug reports etc.
I'm NOT running it on my main desktop as that has lots of stuff on it that I don't want destroyed.

[Kapitän Rotbart]

Oh the laptop is quite new (purchased in fall 2007, shortly before Gutsy's release, however Gutsy was the first OS installed on this machine upon acquiring it because I had it delivered to my uncle's place to save money). It has DVD-RW :D

OEM Vista was included with the comp, but I never accepted the EULA (I would have gone back to the retailer to get refunded for Windows if I were to live less than two hours away from the closest retailer, but it just wasn't worth the gas money).

The issue here is that the computer is not compatible with the Linux kernel (see http://www.fitzenreiter.de/averatec/index-e.htm, that's where I get the install ISO that I burn onto a CD for Ubuntu). Linux only really has hardware compatibility issues with new computers :S

Now if I have access to the hardware, I can hook up my hard drive to another computer with Linux-friendly hardware (after backing up my files), then install Ubuntu, then run a patch to deactivate some stuff in the kernel, then put the hard disc back into my laptop, then try to get WLAN working... (mind you it has been explained in this article (http://www.poplarware.com/everexlinux.html) how to get the driver for WLAN working in Feisty, which was apparently much harder than out of the box, however it's still manageable but no fun, and possibly no GUI).

For the internal USB WLAN card, I have a Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd (RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ from TWINHEAD INTERNATIONAL Corp) card... the retailer said it's an Intel WLAN card... Anyway, I use the RALink driver that was included in the specially compiled install disc I use. The driver womps, mind you. When many WiFi signals are available, particularly at certain times of the day (late evening or mid-day depending on where I am), the WLAN connection may randomly disconnect and the fastest way to reconnect is by rebooting (however this is much less of a nightmare than running Vista with only 1 GB RAM). For some reason every time I would open a certain website (http://www.bus.tu.ac.th) in FireFox, it would disconnect my WLAN connection with little hopes of reconnecting without rebooting until I loaded the page using another browser. Mind you I can't wait for FF3, it should be a huge improvement over FF2 (I can't get the FF widgets to work for FF2.0.0.12 and I'm sick of the current version of Gecko... KHTML/webkit is in my experience probably the best currently released layout engine right now for displaying websites and Mozilla better catch up). Mind you on my older laptop, the WLAN worked way better in Gutsy than Feisty, so I do have my hopes up for Hardy.

Your comp struggles with Xubuntu Dapper? Ubuntu seems to get faster with every new version release... you may want to try Hardy on it upon release (apparently the boot time will be substantially reduced).

You're testing Hardy? Could you please post screenshots of actually doing stuff with apps and showing stuff that doesn't work (bugs)? It would be cool to sample the feel of Hardy beyond Canonical's screenshots that we see on every blog.

[Half-Left]

Just realized this is a old thread, only 2 months to go :)

[Gina]

I see the problem now :(

[quote]For the internal USB WLAN card, I have a Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd (RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ from TWINHEAD INTERNATIONAL Corp) card... the retailer said it's an Intel WLAN card... Anyway, I use the RALink driver that was included in the specially compiled install disc I use. The driver womps, mind you. When many WiFi signals are available, particularly at certain times of the day (late evening or mid-day depending on where I am), the WLAN connection may randomly disconnect and the fastest way to reconnect is by rebooting (however this is much less of a nightmare than running Vista with only 1 GB RAM). For some reason every time I would open a certain website (http://www.bus.tu.ac.th) in FireFox, it would disconnect my WLAN connection with little hopes of reconnecting without rebooting until I loaded the page using another browser. Mind you I can't wait for FF3, it should be a huge improvement over FF2 (I can't get the FF widgets to work for FF2.0.0.12 and I'm sick of the current version of Gecko... KHTML/webkit is in my experience probably the best currently released layout engine right now for displaying websites and Mozilla better catch up). Mind you on my older laptop, the WLAN worked way better in Gutsy than Feisty, so I do have my hopes up for Hardy.I have a USB wireless stick with Ralink chipset (RT73) which works with Hardy - maybe your's will too. I had problems with Gutsy and had to use the serialmonkey driver.

Your comp struggles with Xubuntu Dapper? Ubuntu seems to get faster with every new version release... you may want to try Hardy on it upon release (apparently the boot time will be substantially reduced).I intend to try Xubuntu Hardy on my ancient laptop, hoping it might work. The problem is not so much speed but only 160MB memory.

You're testing Hardy? Could you please post screenshots of actually doing stuff with apps and showing stuff that doesn't work (bugs)? It would be cool to sample the feel of Hardy beyond Canonical's screenshots that we see on every blog.I'll attach a (reduced in GIMP for upload) screnshot of my Desktop to start with - this is Hardy (latest update) on my newer laptop with my own wallpaper (own photo). This is a working test system with the Ralink wireless stick. I'll see what else I can post shortly.

[Gina]

Some more screenshots - Nautilus server error - Editing with the GIMP - Firefox 3 showing this forum - and the FF3 About box.

[Kapitän Rotbart]

Nice screenshot!

Does it include OOo 2.3.1 and GIMP 2.4.4? Have you tried any extensions in FF3-b3ta2? Does compiz work just like in Gutsy (if so, I'm taking you're not into the desktop cube if you use six desktops)? So far it looks like a slick desktop :D

I suppose I would take it for a test run in a live session at minimum had the kernel been compatible with my laptop #-o

Konqueror in a beta version of (Gnome) Ubuntu... does it run smoothly? Nice wealth of external devices :grin:

You could always post screenshots on your website if attachment limits are an issue.

[Mr.Johnny]

8.04 alpha 4 rock solid here :D

[subixonfire]

hardy alfa 4 rocks my world

- faster than ever
- faster then win 98 minimall install
- rt73 out of the box
- multimedia keyboard ok

than again linux eyecandy

- compiz fusion
- screenlets
- usp
- etc

ps my machine is celeron 1100mhz, 256ram, gforce 2 graphic.
hardy works greather than any ubuntu before.

look at this image
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1647/hardyscr3ox2.th.png (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hardyscr3ox2.png)

[Gina]

Nice screenshot!

Does it include OOo 2.3.1 and GIMP 2.4.4? Have you tried any extensions in FF3-b3ta2? Does compiz work just like in Gutsy (if so, I'm taking you're not into the desktop cube if you use six desktops)? So far it looks like a slick desktop :D.Yes to OOo and GIMP (see screenshots) I have AddBlock Plus and the British English dictionary in FF3 - the other main addon I use, FoxMarks, has not been updated to work with FF3 yet so that's a no-no ATM. But FF3 used the Bookmarks from FF2 so I have all my bookmarks in FF3 :)

I'll take a look at Compiz - I owe it to the development team :)

.Konqueror in a beta version of (Gnome) Ubuntu... does it run smoothly? Nice wealth of external devices :grin:
.I'm having a few troubles with Konqueror. For one thing it's not showing all my shared folders on the other computer. I'm not happy with it but OTOH I'm not really used to it - I use Gnome rather than KDE. I'll be glad when Nautilus is fixed. Tried Thunar file manager too but it doesn't seem to do networks at all.

Most of those drives are partitions on the HD. I'm running Gutsy and Dapper as well as Hardy - and there's a Win XP partition too (somewhat redundant :lol:) I swapped the original 30GB HD for a 120GB one.

.You could always post screenshots on your website if attachment limits are an issue.Yes, there are some screenshots there already and I intend to add more. Particularly showing the different choices of desktop GUI. But I think I might also do some for Hardy together with some info about the pending new release. Mostly the attachment limits here are not an issue - it was only the desktop screenshot at 1024x768 that went over the limit.. Anyway, it gave me an excuse to check the latest GIMP :)

[Kapitän Rotbart]

Ooooohhhh..... those screenshots are indeed encouraging to see (including the one from subixonfire who completely remapped the applications menu). It's really nice to see some real screenshots used by b3ta testers.

I guess although I could live without for the time being, it's convenient to have FTP access... so I don't think it would be wise for me to switch to alpha 4 even if it were an easy install.

I really hope those bugs are fixed by alpha 5, but by then we'll see all the new features by then and I hope they surprise me with a few other good ones (I would only need bugs fixed by the release, however it is indeed encouraging to follow innovation in the beta releases).

Thank you Gina for the screenshots :D it has shown me more of what I wanted to see in Hardy without being able to test it myself. I would like to see more screenshots like the one posted by subixonfire where one shows examples of what Hardy can do that couldn't be done in Gutsy (a screenshot of the international clock with weather for each city would be nice, however the screenshots released by Canonical are convincing enough and I already have the International Clock applet in Gutsy... however combining it with the weather app is so convenient)... I just haven't seen the international clock in Hardy display temperatures (I'd like to see some temperatures displayed for 2 or 3+ cities in the international clock if it's not too much to ask).

Also, and I figure a screenshot wouldn't really confirm this, but can anyone confirm PulseAudio working? Like if you have an IM convo make a sound on one side of the screen, would the sound come out of the right speaker? Would this be the case using an audio player as well?

It's really nice to know that some users find Hardy alpha 4 the most usable Ubuntu yet... that's good insight for the final release, which I want to start using upon opportunity.

[zhanglini]

Intrepid Ibex?
Why do they not call it Itchy Iguana? Sounds so much better.

[uBeer]

I love it when they choose names that you don't understand unless you look it up in a dictionary... (for me as someone that hasn't got English as his first language).
I think an ibex is actually a much tougher animal than a heron and a wallpaper with an ibex is way cooler than one with a heron...

[plun]

Well, perhaps a good idea to read MarkS mail

Planning for Ubuntu 8.10ish - The Intrepid Ibex

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-February/025136.html

:)

[Gina]

Not quite as catchy as previous names IMO. Intrepid is rather too long a word I think.

[Phristen]

Sounds very cool to me.

[FLCLFan]

OMG this thread was started way too early.

[sethd32]

OMG this thread was started way too early.

Whose gonna start up the Zippy Zebra countdown?.....147 months to go ;)

[Gina]

:lol: Wonder what the Arrogant Aardvark will be like :lol:

[Kapitän Rotbart]

Has anyone tried Hardy alpha 5 yet?

The Wubi should help the Linux-fearing Windows users to try Ubuntu without losing Windows. I suppose it's a step in the right direction, but I am also curious if this will ever be developed for Ubuntu for OS X users... Looks like they added a few new features to alpha 5, and looks like they're GUI-ing the fstab (http://tiagoboldt.net/blog/ubuntu-hardy-alpha-5/) which is indeed awesome. More default apps can be set in one place (http://kutucape.com/2008/02/23/ubuntu-hardy-heron-alpha-5/). If y'all like screenshots, they've got some up at http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/?linux_distribution_sm=Ubuntu%208.04%20Hardy%20Her on%20Alpha%205. This is indeed a nice step up from alpha 4. The feature freeze has passed, but we have yet to see all of the new artwork after the user interface freeze (that we'll see in Alpha 6).

ROFL "Try Ubuntu without any change to your computer" from the screenshots... they really want to convince Windows users to try Ubuntu without fear.

IMHO, the only way you can get Windows users to switch without fear is if you can guarantee them hardware compatibility and that installing Linux would capture their files in their "My Documents" folder in Windows and migrate them to the home folder in Ubuntu upon install.

Too much knowledge is required from a n00b to manually configure partitions upon install (despite it being so easy to learn... a n00b has no time to learn such intermediate-level Linux features). The Wubi project seems like a good idea, but I don't know if it will increase the conversion rate from Windows to Ubuntu (other factors may more probably cause such a migration, for instance the horrid existence of vista and the desire to multi-task on an entry-level laptop).

Back to the countdown... 59 days left, right?

[Gina]

that installing Linux would capture their files in their "My Documents" folder in Windows and migrate them to the home folder in Ubuntu upon install.It does and has done for a couple of versions now - forget just which version introduced the feature (Feisty or Gutsy I think)

I haven't seen anything official about GUI for fstab - I was considering writing a script to do that myself (amongst the 1001 other things I have to do!)

I think it's probably a good idea to have Wubi in the distro - at least Windows people can try an installed version (you can't get some things working from the Live CD). Of course, one of the real advantages of Linux - the huge increase in speed - won't be there AFAIK. In fact I imagine it would be slower than directly running Windows apps. Must try it sometime - I still have Windoze available.

[Kapitän Rotbart]

The blog I linked to (http://tiagoboldt.net/blog/ubuntu-hardy-alpha-5/) has this official link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiskManagerByDefault

It's even on digg (here (http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Disk_Manager_An_easy_GUI_for_mounting_partitions)) . Seems fairly official to me :D Let it be taken off your 1002 things To Do list, leaving you more time for the other things :D

I suppose it would be worth trying on a Window$ partition, so I heard the desktop environment in Kubuntu crashes during the Wubi install and then works fine after the reboot. That's pretty cool that it's possible to hard-boot an OS from an installed app in another OS... it just shows that the mighty Tux finds its way into every device.

It does and has done for a couple of versions now - forget just which version introduced the feature (Feisty or Gutsy I think)
Really? Can you quote a package (or maybe project name) that would do this?

[23meg]

The blog I linked to (http://tiagoboldt.net/blog/ubuntu-hardy-alpha-5/) has this official link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiskManagerByDefault

It's even on digg (here (http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Disk_Manager_An_easy_GUI_for_mounting_partitions)) . Seems fairly official to me :D Let it be taken off your 1002 things To Do list, leaving you more time for the other things :D


Even on Digg?! That makes it sound like Digg is a relatively reliable source of information. Do you actually believe 30% of what you read on Digg?

Really, this is just misinformation spread by an unfortunate post (http://en.andregondim.eti.br/?p=5) on Planet Ubuntu. There's no Disk Manager in Alpha 5. Don't believe everything you read on a random blog. Official information on what's new in a particular milestone release can be found in the release notes (http://www.ubuntu.com/Testing).

[Kapitän Rotbart]

Shucks, I suppose due to the feature freeze we can't expect to see it included in Hardy... hopefully someone will release a nifty deb for Hardy to get that feature :P

[Kapitän Rotbart]

Considering the default kernel is now compatible with my comp as of alpha 5, I'm downloading the ISO myself to test it in a live session... gotta see if WLAN works out of the box :D

[23meg]

Shucks, I suppose due to the feature freeze we can't expect to see it included in Hardy... hopefully someone will release a nifty deb for Hardy to get that feature :P

It doesn't have anything to do with feature freeze; it wasn't planned for Hardy at all. Had it been planned, it would have to be in at least beta state by feature freeze anyway. It was probably accidentally milestoned Alpha 5. Note that it has no assignee, drafter, approver etc.

[Gina]

Really? Can you quote a package (or maybe project name) that would do this?During installation Ubuntu lists the OSs it finds on your system and asks if you want to import documents and settings for each user found on each OS. Tick the appropriate boxes and continue (I think it asks for passwords for users where the accounts are passworded, but I'm not sure now, it's a while since I've done this). The data from each account copied over is put in a separate directory/folder.

I don't know of anything that will do this after installation though, of course, you can simply copy the data across. I've done this where I didn't want all the user's documents and settings copied over.

[Kapitän Rotbart]

During installation Ubuntu lists the OSs it finds on your system and asks if you want to import documents and settings for each user found on each OS..

Nice... is that only possible for a dual-boot install? I don't recall that option when I installed Ubuntu for the first time and used the entire disc when misreading a HowTo that claimed that manual settings would be too complicated for n00bs and I didn't know where to look to get help for that.

That was my only real disappointment with the information available online for Linux... a lot of stuff for beginners treats beginners like Windows users and don't bother explaining some manual configurations that could have saved some of my files :o I even checked a few sources, and they all gave me the same quantity of info. Mind you, I did check out your website and your Ubuntu docs for n00bs and they are useful, too bad I didn't stumble upon them back in the day of my first Feisty install :S

[Gina]

Thank you :) Yes, I thought some of the official info might be confusing, and sometimes difficult to find - hence reason for my website. I'm glad if I can be of help.

[Kapitän Rotbart]

@Gina:
It would be most helpful if you have good keywords in the meta tags and if you make sure it gets spidered by the major search engines (notably Google). That would be ideal for the helpfulness of your site ;) That way n00bs can find your site and save themselves a lot of trouble.

@all:
Say, has anyone tried the Epiphany browser in Hardy to see if the extensions package lines up with the browser package? Does it use the new Gecko layout engine included in FireFox3? 'Twould be nice to see where the progress in that aspect is at so far :D

[Gina]

@Gina:
It would be most helpful if you have good keywords in the meta tags and if you make sure it gets spidered by the major search engines (notably Google). That would be ideal for the helpfulness of your site ;) That way n00bs can find your site and save themselves a lot of trouble.Yes, good thinking - I'll look at that - thank you :)

[zhanglini]

It is time to restart the count down: 50 days to go.:popcorn:

[zhanglini]

48 days to go

[SomeGuyDude]

I'll say this much, if the improvement between the alphas of Hardy and the release are as drastic as the improvement from the RC's of Gutsy and its final version, Hardy is going to be downright unbelievable.

That said, I'm probably going to revert to Gutsy. I've tried it, got it working, I know it's stable. Still got a few kinks that hinder my day to day usage.

[Cresho]

who's using gutsy? hardy just wiped that off my thoughts! uhhh...what was I talking about? Ohh yeah, hardy is the ultimate! alpha 4 that is.!

[SomeGuyDude]

Have you tried alpha 6? Five was good but real glitchy, 6 is surprisingly dang smooth aside from a few hiccups.

[dead_end]

47 days 9 hours 46 miin left.

[Gina]

I'm still getting a few problems with wireless so I'm using Gutsy ATM. Things are getting better generally though.

[zhanglini]

45 days to go

[amano]

On a sidenote: Judging from the version number the first final Gnome 2.22 packages get uploaded to the repos.

But keep in mind, that Ubuntu usually doesn't ship with .0 releases of GNOME, but will rather ship with GNOME 2.22.1 and maybe even with some SVN snapshots of Nautilus and GVFS from after the 2.22.1 release.

[Kapitän Rotbart]

Do FTP connections work in Hardy alpha 6?

Has anyone tried the Epiphany browser in Hardy to see if it uses the new version of Gecko from FireFox 3?

[23meg]

Do FTP connections work in Hardy alpha 6?

They should (http://blogs.gnome.org/otte/2008/03/06/done-2/).

[zhanglini]

43 days to go

[Gina]

Oh the waiting, the waiing, the terrible waiting :lol: Not too long to Beta though :)

[ellalan]

I am waiting for the release eagerly and I am going to do a clean install. I am sure its going to be an exciting product with lots of goodies.

[Technogenius]

For the Eastern timezone there is 40 days 13 hours and 39 minutes left.

[zhanglini]

For the Eastern timezone there is 40 days 13 hours and 39 minutes left.

However, we don't really know the exact time of the release :)

[Kapitän Rotbart]

However, we don't really know the exact time of the release

There's that, and if something will be released publicly at a certain point in time, the difference between then and now will be *that* long a wait for everyone, regardless of timezone :lol:

I'd say only expect Hardy to be ready for you to obtain when you wake up in the morning (assuming you wake up in the morning) like presents on Christmas day if you live in Hawaii... I waited for Gutsy in the Eastern time zone (GMT-5) and it certainly was not the first thing I could obtain upon waking up. It'll be worth the wait though, I might actually wait an extra week in order to download faster from the repos :popcorn:

[daengbo]

[QUOTE=Kapitän Rotbart;4487780Has anyone tried the Epiphany browser in Hardy to see if it uses the new version of Gecko from FireFox 3?[/QUOTE]
Yes. They both have the same rendering problems. :P. I hope they get fixed. I can't stand a bunch of black rectangles all over the page. Plus, Google Docs doesn't work.

[Kapitän Rotbart]

Bizarre... I've tried FireFox 3 Beta 3pre in Gutsy and I didn't get that experience. What beta version of FireFox 3 did you try and could you please post a screenshot of the black rectangles?

It sure is good to know that Epiphany already uses Gecko 1.9 in Hardy... no more need for the FireFox 2 widgets.

Do the Epiphany extensions work as well in Hardy Alpha (5 or 6)?

[Gina]

I think this problem must be video hardware or driver related. I have three computers running Hardy and Firefox 3 and no problem with Firefox.

[daengbo]

I think this problem must be video hardware or driver related. I have three computers running Hardy and Firefox 3 and no problem with Firefox.

Except that
1) There is no acceleration.
2) The rectangles don't appear in FF2 on the same machine.
3) I have multiple machines with the problem now.

[zhanglini]

Beta will come out tomorrow, which is also the day when spring begins. Good sign!

[Gina]

Looking forward to both :lol:

[KhaaL]

Beta will come out tomorrow, which is also the day when spring begins. Good sign!

What spring? it's still -10 and snowing here! cursed northlands!

[Nathan_M]

Where will I get the beta from when it comes out round about now? I downloaded alpha-6 last night (first time downloading a dev version of Ubuntu) but when I saw it was nearly time for the beta, I figured I may as well wait. I'm presuming it'll take a while for the associated page to go up in http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/, so where can I get it in the meantime?

[Nathan_M]

Nevermind. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/

[zhanglini]

One more month to go!

[Kapitän Rotbart]

Not even :P 28 days left already according to the official website (viewed in the GMT+7).

W00t! Can't wait.

[andrewabc]

conky 1.5.0 (http://conky.sourceforge.net/changelog.html) was released several days ago. I hope it is updated in time for hardy release.

[zhanglini]

What is conky?

[andrewabc]

Post your .conkyrc files w/ screenshots (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865)
Has hundreds of screenshots.

Conky (http://conky.sourceforge.net/) website.

It is a light-weight system monitor under active development.

[kebinusan]

I hope they fix the missing 32 bit asound plugin libs for pulse audio on amd64 platforms before hardy gets pushed out.

[23meg]

conky 1.5.0 (http://conky.sourceforge.net/changelog.html) was released several days ago. I hope it is updated in time for hardy release.

It would take a freeze exception (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess). Did you file a bug?

[andrewabc]

It would take a freeze exception (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess). Did you file a bug?

I've never files a bug for upgrading software.
Do I file it at bugs.launchpad the same as I would for any other bug?

[23meg]

The wiki page I linked to has the necessary info.

[andrewabc]

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/conky/+bug/207724
I hope I did an ok job with it. I subscribed motu-release to it.

Although the "FeatureFreeze for new upstream versions" is a bit too difficult for me to do.
EDIT:
Looks like I'll have to do it anyways. :O

[zhanglini]

<iframe src="http://www.7is7.com/otto/countdown.html?year=2008&amp;month=4&amp;date=24&amp;hrs=0&amp;ts= 24&amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;tz=local&amp;lang=en&amp;show=dhms&amp;mode=t&amp;c dir=down&amp;bgcolor=%23CCFFFF&amp;fgcolor=%23000000&amp;title =Countdown%20To%20Hardy" width="250" height="365" scrolling="no" frameborder="1" style="width:15.6em;height:22.8em;overflow:hidden;"><a href="http://www.7is7.com/otto/countdown.html?year=2008&amp;month=4&amp;date=24&amp;hrs=0&amp;ts= 24&amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;tz=local&amp;lang=en&amp;show=dhms&amp;mode=t&amp;c dir=down&amp;bgcolor=%23CCFFFF&amp;fgcolor=%23000000&amp;title =Countdown%20To%20Hardy">Countdown To Hardy</a></iframe>

[zhanglini]

14 days!!

[zhanglini]

Since it is 7 days to go, can somebody put a countdown clock here???
I have tried several times, nothing worked.
Thanks

[Technogenius]

5 days, 16 hours, and 42 minutes.

[atomicblue]

I wonder if we should go ahead and start the "Is it out yet?" thread.. (remembers Gutsy release day...)

[Gina]

I have a countdown on my Ubuntu website on the Home page - http://ginad.org.uk/home.html (See sig for access to all the site)

[zhanglini]

I have a countdown on my Ubuntu website on the Home page - http://ginad.org.uk/home.html (See sig for access to all the site)
Yeah I tried to copy that same thing to this thread but somehow it does not work.

[zhanglini]

RC is out, 4 more days to go!
I will probably download it next Sunday. How many people are going to try RC? How many will try on Thur/Fri?

[aparigraha]

I'm hungry

[Martje_001]

I'm really looking forward to it, lets see how much pages we can fill now :D!

[zhanglini]

Hardy Heron reflects Ubuntu Linux ambitions
Posted by Stephen Shankland

I included the wrong duration for regular Ubuntu releases. It's 18 months.

Canonical plans to release Hardy Heron, its newest version of Ubuntu Linux on Thursday, and Chief Executive Mark Shuttleworth isn't being shy and retiring about it.

"This is our most significant release ever," he said in an interview.

Ordinarily I avoid publishing such marketing superlatives, but Shuttleworth is right. Hardy Heron, also called version 8.04 for its April 2008 launch date, is Canonical's proof-in-the-pudding moment that will show whether the company can grow beyond its subsidized roots into a self-sustaining business. Ubuntu has a strong following among Linux enthusiasts, but it's Red Hat and Novell that still dominate the commercial Linux market.

The reason so much weight rests on the skinny legs of Hardy Heron is because it's only the second Linux product from the company to come with long-term support. The first LTS version of Ubuntu, Dapper Drake, arrived when the company was still comparatively immature and unknown.

Long-term support means the company releases bug fixes, security patches, and other updates for five years on the server version and three years on the desktop version, time frames more palatable to businesses than the 18-month life spans of other Ubuntu versions.

On the server, the new version has support for KVM and VMware virtualization built in and comes in a stripped-down version called JEOS (Just Enough Operating System) for software "appliances" that run on virtual machines. The company has been working on better hardware support--though it no longer supports Sun Microsystems' Sparc processors, Shuttleworth said. Also included are better integration with Windows' Active Directory for corporate users and a certified, downloadable version of Java software.

On the desktop, Hardy Heron now can be installed directly into the Windows file system so people can try it without having to reformat their hard drives. The software also deals better with online music and photo sites such as Flickr, he added. However, because of an upgrade timing disconnect, fans of the KDE user interface software will have to make do with only 18-month support for the older KDE 3.5 or an unsupported developer version based on the new KDE 4.0.

Still not profitable
Shuttleworth, who funded Ubuntu with wealth from his sale of an earlier start-up to VeriSign, cares about business success, but he's also willing to continue spending to help Canonical grow into new areas--such as the mobile version that's beginning in earnest with Hardy Heron.

"Ubuntu will require continuing investment from me and from others. We are on a trajectory that will make the company sustainable," Shuttleworth said. But he wouldn't say when he envisions profitability: "I'd rather not be on the hook...I keep finding additional areas to invest in."

What's a surprise to Shuttleworth, though, is that the desktop Linux is financially more significant than the version for servers.

"The desktop contributes more to Canonical's bottom line than the server," he said. The server business is still Canonical's primary focus for support revenue. But the company has been getting paid for desktop and consumer-electronics work, he said.

"On the desktop, we see strong demand for custom engineering and assurance programs as people look to Canonical to indemnify them against potential copyright or patent issues," Shuttleworth said.

Canonical also works on unbranded Linux for consumer-electronics companies, though Shuttleworth expects they'll eventually opt for something like Ubuntu. "The hardware vendors are leaping at the ability to do their own operating system. I believe over time they'll tire of the costs and risks of doing that," he said.

Regarding engineering work, he added that Canonical has a tight partnership with Intel, an "extensive on-site engineering relationship where we integrate support for latest platforms."

[magikx21]

I upgraded to the RC last night to avoid traffic when it is released. After a couple small tweaks I got all running quite nice. Haven't seen much difference yet though.

[knowledgeispwr]

I upgraded to the RC last night to avoid traffic when it is released. After a couple small tweaks I got all running quite nice. Haven't seen much difference yet though.

I did the same thing more or less (I did an upgrade of my Kubuntu Gusty Gibbon to the Hardy RC). The only problem I noticed was that my vmplayer didn't immediate work because of the new kernel, but that was easy to fix.

I haven't noticed any big changes, just newer software. I'm noticing no problems with the Firefox 3 beta.

[magikx21]

I did the same thing more or less (I did an upgrade of my Kubuntu Gusty Gibbon to the Hardy RC). The only problem I noticed was that my vmplayer didn't immediate work because of the new kernel, but that was easy to fix.

I haven't noticed any big changes, just newer software. I'm noticing no problems with the Firefox 3 beta.

I have been using firefox3 for awhile on Gutsy but I noticed a problem not so much with it but surrounding it after the upgrade. I had FF3 set to my internet key on my keyboard in Gutsy but after upgrading I no longer have FF3 in my menu just Firefox (which is still Firefox 3 just a different link). Now my shortcut key says it is in use when I try to assign it and I can't figure how to fix it since I no longer have that link that used it. FF3 itself though works great and has been working great for awhile now.

[zhanglini]

I used to burn a CD before I install the previous versions. I don't need to do that because this new Wubi thing allows you to download to your harddrive and install from there, right? ---I am talking about installing Ubuntu as one of the dual boot, not inside XP as an application.
It is an issue for me cuz my CD burner is dead and I would have to go to the library to do that.

[aparigraha]

hope you all hit the torrents when it is time. instead of jamming up the site
http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/

[Melcar]

This sucks. My main desktop will be without any Ubuntu goodness this time around since the new kernels refuse to work with my hardware. I'm very sad right now.

[jerrylamos]

hope you all hit the torrents when it is time. instead of jamming up the site
http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/

I do an rsync every few days or so from the daily builds. In concept this loads the differences between the iso image I have and the one on daily build (probably an oversimplification). In the case of the release candidate my iso image was updated in pretty good time, indicating to me significantly less load on the site:
#------------------------------------------------------------------
rsync -avzpPv --stats rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily-live/current/hardy-desktop-i386.iso .

rsync -Lvv --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily-live/current/MD5SUMS .

md5sum hardy-desktop-i386.iso >> MD5SUMS

less MD5SUMS
#-------------------------------------------------------------------
Now I do updates daily when I'm in town. After an rsync, the install is usually different than the updates, i.e. different bugs.

Jerry

[23meg]

Please read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763394 .

[Spartan.II.117]

I will be hosting a copy of the torrents at http://theark.endoftheinternet.org/ inorder to make them easy to find.

[karahim786]

I am already waiting ...
But I heard that a new version of Ubuntu is going to be released on 24th April, 2008 and that is tomorrow! What is that? Where can I get a DVD copy of that?

By the way, can anyone tell me how to start a new thread (i.e ask a question not found by search)?

[rcdeacon]

I have been using Hardy since about alpha 5. I have done all of the regular updates that appear in the update manager but I have never done a dist-upgrade. While I have heard of the dist-upgrade I do not know how to go about it and I do not know if it is even necessary since I have done the usual updates along the line. Can someone give me some advice and perhaps instructions (code) to do the dist upgrade or whatever else must be done to be completely current once Hardy is final?

[qhaz]

From the command line . . .

sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade

cheers

[rcdeacon]

qhaz, thanks for the speedy reply and help. Thank you very much.

[zhanglini]

36 +/- 6 hours!

[mabovo]

Thread Closed !

Who will be the last to post here a message ?

Thanks to devs and the Ubuntu Team for all positive and negative contributions to this new release.

During the last months persuading an alternative replacement free of chains to this proprietary hardware I was caught on surprise for the astonishing development achieved in Hardy Heron.

Congratulations to all !

[zhanglini]

Closed? what do you mean?

[vishzilla]

:guitar: already on the Hardy experience. Had a little rocky experience for the last one week but all the kinks are being ironed out smoothly. The devs have done a great job. Congratulations! :)

[mabovo]

Closed? what do you mean?

Tomorrow will be, just kidding :)

There is enough time to post more information here.

[zhanglini]

Tomorrow will be, just kidding :)

There is enough time to post more information here.

Ok, I didnot get that one, still too early in the morning.:)

[animamia]

What's the exact time the official Hardy Heron will be released, anyway? :D

[SonicSteve]

Thread Closed !

Who will be the last to post here a message ?

Thanks to devs and the Ubuntu Team for all positive and negative contributions to this new release.

During the last months persuading an alternative replacement free of chains to this proprietary hardware I was caught on surprise for the astonishing development achieved in Hardy Heron.

Congratulations to all !

What exactly are you referring to?
Did you have problems running Gutsy on your macbook or with something else?
Sounds like something you might want to share with us.

[mihai007]

so... when it is going to be released?

[andrewabc]

so... when it is going to be released?

April 24.

With previous releases it got released very late on the release day (say midnight eastern standard time or later).
So basically don't bother waiting all day Thursday for it to be released. Wake up Friday and update if you must.

It will be interesting to see the dozens of threads about when it will be released, why it hasn't been released in everyones timezone on April 24 (Australians will be one of the first to start topics).
And then once it is finally released you will see dozens of "it has been released" threads starting up, with many people posting no it hasn't! And this is because local cache has not been updated (there are mirrors of the ubuntu website).

[23meg]

Repeating, since people only seem to look at the last page (understandably): please read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763394 before asking questions about the release.

[zhanglini]

Today is the day, less than 20 hours!