Internet Cafe na Ubuntu OS lahat ng PC?

[Script Warlock]

I was about to install ZenCafe to my PC. Kala ko Internet cafe management software yun. Yun pala distro din yun.wahehe

hintayin mo na lang 9.04 ilang araw na lang release na tapos try mo ext4...:KS

[dodimar]

I was about to install ZenCafe to my PC. Kala ko Internet cafe management software yun. Yun pala distro din yun.wahehe

It is a distro designed for internet cafe's.. It has built in functions na kailangan sa isang iCafe (iCafe management softwares, etc...)... remember to read... http://linux.blogs.ie/

[leipogs23]

Mga bossing. Sa tingin nyo, ano mas maganda gamitin ko para sa itatayo kong icafe? Me installer CD na ko ng 8.10. E tomorrow release na ng 9.04. Mas ok kaya na 8.10 muna ang gamitin ko? Or since available na, mas maganda kaya na 9.04??? Thenks po

[leipogs23]

hintayin mo na lang 9.04 ilang araw na lang release na tapos try mo ext4...:KS

Sensya na sir boyet, I missed your post. Tingin nyo? Mas maganda talaga na 9.04 na kagad?? Konti lang ba pinagiba sa 8.10???

[leipogs23]

It is a distro designed for internet cafe's.. It has built in functions na kailangan sa isang iCafe (iCafe management softwares, etc...)... remember to read... http://linux.blogs.ie/

Thanks sir dodimar. CCL na lang din ang gagamitin ko. Kaso parang di ko feel un screen saver. Ung yelow tapos me ccl sa gitna. Napapalitan ba yun???

[dodimar]

Thanks sir dodimar. CCL na lang din ang gagamitin ko. Kaso parang di ko feel un screen saver. Ung yelow tapos me ccl sa gitna. Napapalitan ba yun???

Check mo tong thread na ito.. discussion ito regarding CCL (Cafe Con Leche)..

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777093

[dodimar]

leipogs23, san ka nga pala sa cavite?

[leipogs23]

leipogs23, san ka nga pala sa cavite?

Indang Cavite po. But currently I'm staying here in Paranaque coz I'm working in Makati.

[Script Warlock]

Thanks sir dodimar. CCL na lang din ang gagamitin ko. Kaso parang di ko feel un screen saver. Ung yelow tapos me ccl sa gitna. Napapalitan ba yun???

yes napaplitan..
what i did is

1.i choose and edit my fav pic sa gimp
2.scale the edited image parehas sa desktop resolution, mine is 1200x800px
3.i named it to lockpix and save as .gif
4.and nilagay ko sa created na folder sa home directory .cclcfox where the certificate is also located

now i dunno if this is neccessary at din ko rin alam ang resulta..i opened the cclcfox-0.7.1 folder located in my home folder at open the folder named src and then opened the locker.h with text editor....

hmmm i tried to delete the * sign from the protected line called FXIFImage....*lockpix; and then save.

then i launched the cclcfox timer.. tada!!! i saw my favorite pic.. pero i dunno why and how it worked maybe becoz of the deletion of *asterisk? or becoz i have edited the image according to my desktop resolution?. actually it happened just today testing it in my laptop

anu kaya sa tingin nyo:confused:

[ronaldr34]

alam ko meron thread sa philippine team using ccl-cafe con leche only for linux system....

[inqui.08]

Leiprogs, musta net cafe mo powered by linux? Interested dn sana ako magput up net biz d2 s province nmin using same setup.. Problema may small competion n ako agad and I think gumgamit cla pirated software.. Gusto ko lng mgtry 3-5 pcs muna if mgcclick, hirap xe mglabas agad malaking capital..

Can you please give some details ng hardware specs mo ready for ubuntu installation? Know some stuffs about linux pro not that much..

Also, I'm planning to buy s PCExpress ng mga cheap component bka may idea kau ng mga models/brand n ok:

1. PC
Mobo:
Processor:
Webcam: (nabasa ko a4tech - though bka may ibang png option)
Others: (Safe to assume nman cguro to buy generic mouse, keyboards, monitor)

2. router (16 ports)
3. smartbro wireless (anong plan kinuha mo? ok nman connection?)
4. List of games running w/ ubuntu?


On a side note, possible b ung setup n ganto:
1 --- XP - server
4 --- Ubuntu - workstation

Everytym gusto mgrun ng ubuntu users ko ng apps n gumagana lng using Windows, coconect lng cla s server tas mkakapgrun n cla? Prang RDC setup, para if nde maiwasan mginstall ng licensed software, 1 copy lng kelangan ko bilin pra s server?

Possible b to or wishful thinking lng? Hehehe.. Thanks! :D

[zilu54]

ooops sorry....wrong post.

[rotex13]

pasensya na po sa medyo stupid na tanong pero, ano po yung wine?
it's [W-ine,I-s,N-ot,anE-mulator]because of this program maiinstall mo na ang windows program for linux for more info punta k nlgn sa site nila...andun din ung mga list of program sa 100% na pwede gumana sa linux,

[tykmo]

mga ts0ng meron ba kayong nakita o napagrent-an na internet cafe/shop na ubuntu/linux OS ng mga PC? kung meron saan? saka please post niyo mga details ng cafe ex. how they run that cafe. et.al.

salamat ;)


meron ako napunantahan na icafe na linux ang os sa Tanauan batangas. Kaso 3 years ago pa yun. Ewan ko kung nakatayo pa rin yung internet cafe na yun. Wala pa ko alam nun sa Linux pero nakita ko na may penguin sa desktop nila. Ayos naman yung internet.

[kilosan]

if you plan to go linux.

your ace is internet browsing service and printing which is near schools.

you can now use webmessenger of yahoo (yahoo in web browser), it even now has webcam and voice access.

and because you are an internet only shop, you dont need high end hardwares.

probably you can now start with P100,000 of capital for 9-10 units or the better if you know how to use the nc computing (multiple units in one pc) or client pc's so your user can either log on as guest or create their own account with 10mb personal storage with bonus privilege like bonus time to give that attachment rate.

[Script Warlock]

if you plan to go linux.

your ace is internet browsing service and printing which is near schools.

you can now use webmessenger of yahoo (yahoo in web browser), it even now has webcam and voice access.

and because you are an internet only shop, you dont need high end hardwares.

probably you can now start with P100,000 of capital for 9-10 units or the better if you know how to use the nc computing (multiple units in one pc) or client pc's so your user can either log on as guest or create their own account with 10mb personal storage with bonus privilege like bonus time to give that attachment rate.

teka are you sure supported na webcam at voice sa webmessenger?

[rplomantes]

Guys I have printing business here in marikina. I have only 4 computers for rent for typing, internet and internet games lahat naka ubuntu. Medyo ok ang response ng customers dahil mas stable and internet surfing at hindi na vivirus kung may space lang gusto ko dagdagan.

[kilosan]

you can try it, right click then settings, by allow settings for yahoo to access your mic and camera and if you have v4linux, just double click the camera icon.

[Script Warlock]

you can try it, right click then settings, by allow settings for yahoo to access your mic and camera and if you have v4linux, just double click the camera icon.

ok allowed ko na webcam at voice then paano ako makabroadcast?
i think meebo is the right tool for this...

[loell]

you can try it, right click then settings, by allow settings for yahoo to access your mic and camera and if you have v4linux, just double click the camera icon.

sa flash settings yan, generic yan sa lahat ng embeded flash elements. ;)

[webchannel]

Hello cafes!!! I am from WEB CHANNEL INTERNET CAFE HERE IN BATAAN, sure ako kami palang ang Linux sa lugar namin, I dual boot my 15 pcs pc with windows xp and ubuntu 10.04. OK Naman ang result. Kapag internet ang gagawin ng costumer ubuntu agad ang boot ko.
Tatlo ang Web Browser ko, Google Chrome, firefox, SAKA Opera browser, 3 mbps ang speed ko kaya wala problema sa browsing, Mas mabilis kaysa sa XP.

Ang good news mabibilib ka, nakakakita ako ng ubuntu theme na katulad sa xp, Talagang windows xp ang itsura pati mga icons pati yung taskbar, my computer, my documents, start button, network icon, xp wallpaper, hindi nga mapagkakamalang ubuntu, makikita lang yung ubuntu kapag booting ciempre. Maganda ang result lalu na kapag may animation opening window minimized saka close (compiz. Dina malilito ang mga baging costumer, parang walang binago na OS. tRY TO GOOGLE IT.
sA OFFICE NAMAN OKAY Naman yung open office, pero pewede mo install yung microsft office sa wine. (2003 vERSION NA LANG.)

sa games yung dota gumagana full screen saka window mode (opengl)SEARCH MO SA GOOGLE "PLAYONLINUX" PANG INSTALL NG WINDOWS GAMES...

[poosietgp]

thumbs up para sa WEB CHANNEL INTERNET CAFE! :guitar:
mukhang sa ngayon dual boot lang talga ang pinaka mainam na solution if you want linux on your rent-a-boxes, you get the best of both worlds linux for a "MORE" secured browsing and online transactions and WINDOWS for fun and games.

I also saw PLAYONLINUX, personally i haven't tried it yet, pero mukhang front end sya sa Wine, Wine na try ko na to, was able to play dota and a few mmorpg on top of Wine.

If anyone really wants to start a pure ubuntu iCafe I would suggest na:


Mag-research ng mga patok na offline/local/mmog na tatakbo sa Wine.
Mag-research ng mga Fixes/patches/dependencies or special configuration sa mga games na nakuha mo from number 1 (this is ofcourse for easier troubleshooting and maintenance.).
1 and 2 can be accomplished thru PLAYONLINUX and Wine site/forums.
Mas ok kung parepareho specs ng mga rent-a-box mo for easier troubleshooting and maintenance
Kung parepareho specs ng rent-a-box mo, try to setup a ghost/clone server like clonezilla (pwede din dd command for non netboot situations).
Lastly Make sure na ung mga bibilhin mo na printers and webcams will work fine on ubuntu.

[emmman]

hi...im new here... =) internet cafe na puro Linux? ewan... hehehe pero sa university namen puro Ubuntu [edubuntu] ang operating system! Ang mga estudyante don sanay na sanay sila dun sa OS! ako din nasanay na! Nag palit na din ako ng OS to Ubuntu 10.04, pero dito sa lugar namen may comp shop/bakery?/sari-sari store/photocopy center... linux sila! Fedora nga lang...

[reneorense]

Ang gagaling naman nyan...

Ano ang suggestion po ninyo na time-keeper for the internet shop..? Sa'men kasi, wala naman angal ang mga tao sa kung anong OS ang gamit, so I had a chance to experiment running games in Ubuntu...

Here are some of which I've run perfectly:
Conuter
Dota, WoW, atbp na maliliit lang na online games...
GTA
L4D
Mejo nagkakaproblema lang ako sa DMC4 at RA3. But I was able to run DMC3SE...

As with other common MS apps like MS office 2003, okay naman din...

Mostly net lang po ang ginagawa ng mga nagre-rent...

Pero po pag-Ubuntu kasi mano-mano ang pag-time namin since di pa namin mashadong kabisado.. So ano po ang recommended ninyo na magandang gamitin para sa workstation timer...

Salamat po ng marami... :)

8)

[Script Warlock]

ako po dito sa cebu ubuntu ang gamit sa shop na may 8units minus isang sirang pc at kung gusto kayo pasyal sa shop pwede rin..

OT: hmm pwede rin pala shop gamitin para release party ng ubuntu ngayon ko lang naisip.

@reneorense, mkahawa pwede mo gamitin timer kaso under development pa lang at magiging ok na ang takbo ng mkahawa ngayong may29 pa nga lang sabi ng developer.

[leipogs23]

Sir boyet... Sir boyet... at last 100% ununtu na din ang shop ko.hehehe. Ubuntu 10.04+LTSP rocks....!!!!

I'll post pictures of my shop next week....hehehehe

[Script Warlock]

Sir boyet... Sir boyet... at last 100% ununtu na din ang shop ko.hehehe. Ubuntu 10.04+LTSP rocks....!!!!

I'll post pictures of my shop next week....hehehehe

ako screenshot pa din dati yung kumalat sa net sa amin yun.. pero update ko nga lang pala screenshot para makita din kung anong potential ng linux sa icafe. or post ko na lang kaya videop stream ng shop pag matapos ko na matrabaho ics ng ubuntu with iptables. sumakit ulo ko sa network manager ng ubuntu di ko pa rin gets ang ics nila, iptable na lang..

[royfmont13]

Hello cafes!!! I am from WEB CHANNEL INTERNET CAFE HERE IN BATAAN, sure ako kami palang ang Linux sa lugar namin, I dual boot my 15 pcs pc with windows xp and ubuntu 10.04. OK Naman ang result. Kapag internet ang gagawin ng costumer ubuntu agad ang boot ko.
Tatlo ang Web Browser ko, Google Chrome, firefox, SAKA Opera browser, 3 mbps ang speed ko kaya wala problema sa browsing, Mas mabilis kaysa sa XP.

Ang good news mabibilib ka, nakakakita ako ng ubuntu theme na katulad sa xp, Talagang windows xp ang itsura pati mga icons pati yung taskbar, my computer, my documents, start button, network icon, xp wallpaper, hindi nga mapagkakamalang ubuntu, makikita lang yung ubuntu kapag booting ciempre. Maganda ang result lalu na kapag may animation opening window minimized saka close (compiz. Dina malilito ang mga baging costumer, parang walang binago na OS. tRY TO GOOGLE IT.
sA OFFICE NAMAN OKAY Naman yung open office, pero pewede mo install yung microsft office sa wine. (2003 vERSION NA LANG.)

sa games yung dota gumagana full screen saka window mode (opengl)SEARCH MO SA GOOGLE "PLAYONLINUX" PANG INSTALL NG WINDOWS GAMES...


Sir, ask ko lang po saan po kayo sa Bataan? Taga limay po ako, gusto ko po makita ang shop nyo, kung pwede?

[xxxlam]

I think a better idea is to separate Gamers from people who only browses internet. Of course we must know the perspective of every customers, gamers, etc...

One issue (scenario) is, most Facebook users in an internet cafe complains when DOTA gamers keeps on screaming and yelling inside (maybe for excitement)... It's a total desrtuction for an innocent researcher. :D

My advice is, use Windows (7 or XP) in one side of your shop for gaming (since this OS is very much expesive). The other half, use Puppy or Ubuntu for Facebook fanatics and for research purposes etc...

... and oh, by the way, NO GAMING DURING SCHOOL HOURS! Research only.

[Samhain13]

One issue (scenario) is, most Facebook users in an internet cafe complains when DOTA gamers keeps on screaming and yelling inside (maybe for excitement)... It's a total desrtuction for an innocent researcher.

I can totally relate to this. Back when I used to almost live inside Internet cafes, the gamers really annoyed me. Parang sila na lang ang may karapatan mag-enjoy sa ginagawa nila. And I spent long hours in the cafes doing research.

[angheloko]

I can totally relate to this. Back when I used to almost live inside Internet cafes, the gamers really annoyed me. Parang sila na lang ang may karapatan mag-enjoy sa ginagawa nila. And I spent long hours in the cafes doing research.

May mga laro talaga, kahit gano ka kamaton mapapatili ka, like yun Left4Dead... Naaalala ko pa, lahat kami lalake, pero kung magtilian e, matatawa ka talaga, heheh.. Try nyo minsan laruin.

[xxxlam]

That's my point, paghiwalaying ang mga naglalaro sa nagreresearch...
sa mga naglalaro dual boot (windows && linux maybe), sa mga nagaaral puwede kahit linux lang. pero sa palagay ko hahanapin padin nila ang microsoft Office so best alternative is Open Office nalang suguro.
And another problem arrises, compatibility issues ng open office sa MS office.

any news about this? ;D

[perbiu]

Majority of the customer dont recognize the difference of openoffice from ms office.

Usually, they start from scratch so no problem with incompatibilities.

The only thing you will encounter ms office .doc .docx incompatibility is for printing customers that carry their own .doc files, but incompatibility happens in "tables" which is a little off and needs adjusting, you can reject them if you want since they are only rare and will take out your time which will out weigh other printing customers that will just print out a few documents without tables. But i also tried it in different ms office also results to table problems due to fonts used and versions 98/xp/2007.

Conclusion, MS office is a headache, and if you can give free copies of openoffice in your shop, then do so.

[xxxlam]

And oh, by the way, do you have a timer for customers that works like "Cafe Manila"?

[Script Warlock]

And oh, by the way, do you have a timer for customers that works like "Cafe Manila"?

here are some of the timers..

openlan house
gbilling
mkahawa
cafepilot

[adgaps]

na-try ko na dati na i-dual boot yung isang pc sa shop namin... Windows XP at Ubuntu 10.04...

nung una ok naman... kaso dahil halos lahat ng customers namin typing ang pakay, nahihirapan sila sa openoffice...

may ilan ding talagang nalilito sa interface, syempre dahil sanay sila sa windows...

and, most of all, walang YM... nadi-discourage sila gumamit ng ubuntu...

[xxxlam]

I think, you need an assistant... to assist customers using OpenOffice (but it is impractical of course).

In the case of your Yahoo Messenger, just google it. :D

[vinsniv]

Pasali po sa inyong magandang talakayan dito. ang dami ko agad natutunan. maraming salamat po. pasensya na po kung wala akong maitulong agad sa talakayan dahil bagito pa ako sa linux. sumubok ako dati ng dsl at knoppix, year 2005 yata pero hanggang internet browsing lang nagawa ko. di kinaya ng weak powers ko.

Kaugnay sa paksa, sa internet cafe ko pong maliit, isa ay naka YLMF na at yung lima ay winxp pa rin ang os. kasi iba na ngayon ang linux kumpara sa dating nasubukan ko. gaya nga nitong YLMF, mukhang windoze sya kaya napapadali ang transition from windoze to ubuntu. balak kong gawing YLMF lahat ito pag sanay na ang mga suki sa isang unit.

tapos ay i-promote sa ibang cybercafes hanggang masanay ang maraming mga suki.

[topet2k12001]

Pasali po sa inyong magandang talakayan dito. ang dami ko agad natutunan. maraming salamat po. pasensya na po kung wala akong maitulong agad sa talakayan dahil bagito pa ako sa linux. sumubok ako dati ng dsl at knoppix, year 2005 yata pero hanggang internet browsing lang nagawa ko. di kinaya ng weak powers ko.

Kaugnay sa paksa, sa internet cafe ko pong maliit, isa ay naka YLMF na at yung lima ay winxp pa rin ang os. kasi iba na ngayon ang linux kumpara sa dating nasubukan ko. gaya nga nitong YLMF, mukhang windoze sya kaya napapadali ang transition from windoze to ubuntu. balak kong gawing YLMF lahat ito pag sanay na ang mga suki sa isang unit.

tapos ay i-promote sa ibang cybercafes hanggang masanay ang maraming mga suki.

Yes, YLMF looks very much like WinXP. :) Zorin OS is also nice, you may want to try. It allows your computer to look like Mac OS, Windows 7, and GNOME (with a few clicks of a mouse).

[punong_bisyonaryo]

Excellent! This was a very interesting topic, and I just lost 3 hours of sleep time kakabasa sa old posts.:)

On improving the i-cafe scene and widespread Ubuntu adoption,

Well based on my research. Nagrurun daw ang DOTA. Un iba di ko pa nacoconfirm like NBA NFS or CS. Inuna ko DOTA itry since yun ang pinakasikat dito samen. Try this link on how to run dota.

http://choxblog.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/play-dota-aka-warcraft-on-ubuntu/

I have what I think a better tutorial on installing DOTA/WC3/Frozen Throne, but it requires installation from an original copy of Warcraft 3 and Frozen Throne (pirated copies work just fine, but you didn't hear it from me, mmkay?;) )

http://jplui.com/geekmadness/2008/06/24/playing-warcraft-iii-and-dota-in-linux/

Since medyo matagal na since nagawa ko yun, kindly test naman and pa-feedback kung gumagana parin. Wala na ako time mag test these days. Pero dati everything worked pati LAN game.

Oh, Im doing my own compilation and reviews of games AND ONLINE GAMES that works for GNU/Linux natively ;) Not done with it yet tho. Next part of my research is for WINE, etc.

I'm preparing to push Gaming in Ubuntu for the Philippines :p Have friends and business contacts willing to do the test run, hopefully this year, if it will work. Cafe chains ;)

@Laibcoms, we'd love to see your compilation and reviews ng mga games. Maybe you can put a link sa Community Documentation ng Games sa Ubuntu Documentation (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games) sa reviews mo or install instructions. Mas marami rin instructions sa Chinese Ubuntu Wiki (http://wiki.ubuntu.org.cn/UbuntuHelp:Games). At least pag inupdate mo dito, sure kang marami makakakita.

Pwede rin if you have linux-game-related stories/reviews/tutorials, gawan ko kayo ng author sa GeekMadness (http://jplui.com/geekmadness). I would love to have you as guest writers! Of course you can promote your own website or blog from there too.:)

[webchannel]

Oo ltsp and d best "no hard disk" boot from network i already made it you can run ten pc without hard disk... Yehey!!!! Thin client ba sayu or fat client?

[webchannel]

na-try ko na dati na i-dual boot yung isang pc sa shop namin... Windows XP at Ubuntu 10.04...

nung una ok naman... kaso dahil halos lahat ng customers namin typing ang pakay, nahihirapan sila sa openoffice...

may ilan ding talagang nalilito sa interface, syempre dahil sanay sila sa windows...

and, most of all, walang YM... nadi-discourage sila gumamit ng ubuntu...


MADALANG NA LANG ANG NAGYYYM Usually sa facebook na lang nag chchat

[tech-hero]

i remembered those days, na yung mga computer shops sa labas ng school, na- raid sila for using pirated softwares, kaya for two months, yung mga nagsurvive at iwas raid, gumamit ng linux. im not familiar with the OS yet, pero linux sya na ang themes eh parang windows xp din. sa docs at sa internet browsing walang prob, pero wala silang games. :D kung malakas ang pwesto mo para sa mga projects lang, no problem. sulit ka jan. pero mostly, kung gusto mo na madaming kita talaga, sa gaming patok ang computer shops eh.

[webchannel]

thumbs up para sa WEB CHANNEL INTERNET CAFE! :guitar:
mukhang sa ngayon dual boot lang talga ang pinaka mainam na solution if you want linux on your rent-a-boxes, you get the best of both worlds linux for a "MORE" secured browsing and online transactions and WINDOWS for fun and games.

I also saw PLAYONLINUX, personally i haven't tried it yet, pero mukhang front end sya sa Wine, Wine na try ko na to, was able to play dota and a few mmorpg on top of Wine.

If anyone really wants to start a pure ubuntu iCafe I would suggest na:


Mag-research ng mga patok na offline/local/mmog na tatakbo sa Wine.
Mag-research ng mga Fixes/patches/dependencies or special configuration sa mga games na nakuha mo from number 1 (this is ofcourse for easier troubleshooting and maintenance.).
1 and 2 can be accomplished thru PLAYONLINUX and Wine site/forums.
Mas ok kung parepareho specs ng mga rent-a-box mo for easier troubleshooting and maintenance
Kung parepareho specs ng rent-a-box mo, try to setup a ghost/clone server like clonezilla (pwede din dd command for non netboot situations).
Lastly Make sure na ung mga bibilhin mo na printers and webcams will work fine on ubuntu.


Since November Tinaggal ko na yung Dual Boot XP saka Ubuntu 10.04
kasi nabinggo ko na yung LTSP, (FAT CLIENT) sUCESS YUNG SETUP, iSANG SERVER NA Ubuntu 10.10, Network boot ko yung 5 PC ISANG SERVER,Seach mu Ubuntu LTSP FAT dOCUMENTATION PWEDE RIN NETWORK BOOT LAHAT NG PC, MAS MAGANDA KUNG PAREPAREHO YUNG HARDWARE MO,GAWA KA LANG 15 NA USERNAME

[Script Warlock]

@webchannel, naks laki naman ng teks mo halos lumuwa sa dekstop ko! pwede ba liitan.

thats true sa shop ko usually facebook, school projects lang at skype pero mas enjoy sila sa fb. meron akong games na sinubukan yung HON at savage wala rin. balak kong susubukan ang enemy territory TCE parang maganda ang graphics.

i like the idea na LTSP baka summer setup ko yan sa shop.

[franchoy]

@webchannel, naks laki naman ng teks mo halos lumuwa sa dekstop ko! pwede ba liitan.

thats true sa shop ko usually facebook, school projects lang at skype pero mas enjoy sila sa fb. meron akong games na sinubukan yung HON at savage wala rin. balak kong susubukan ang enemy territory TCE parang maganda ang graphics.

i like the idea na LTSP baka summer setup ko yan sa shop.

siguro maganda location mo. minsan kasi talagang nasa location din nakasalalay ung kita ng business mo.

[Script Warlock]

tatlong shop nasa paligid ko pero di magkatabi ang style ko lang eh kung anong wala sa kabila meron ako. pinabilisan ko lang speed ng net at yun nga virus free computing at meron libreng snack sa hapon kung sakaling mainit ang panahon(juice at biskit). at syempre kung mabilis ang net at machine gaganahan yan dahil nga walang oras na maaksaya. malinis ang shop. 15/hr lang rate namin 3+1 sa mga prepaid at kung sakaling di nila natapos ang oras pwedeng balikan bukas, yan ang wala sa iba na tig 10/hr..

any usb devices including cams nila libre ko pero kung kami ang tatrabaho merong bayad... at their own risk nga lang kung sila.

sinubukan ko din pinalitan ng winxp skin ang ubuntu di rin umubra dahil sa nasanayang gnome. kaya nga walang galawan sa default UI ng ubuntu ewan ko lang sa bagong gnome 3 baka magreklamo na naman mga tomer.

[franchoy]

tatlong shop nasa paligid ko pero di magkatabi ang style ko lang eh kung anong wala sa kabila meron ako. pinabilisan ko lang speed ng net at yun nga virus free computing at meron libreng snack sa hapon kung sakaling mainit ang panahon(juice at biskit). at syempre kung mabilis ang net at machine gaganahan yan dahil nga walang oras na maaksaya. malinis ang shop. 15/hr lang rate namin 3+1 sa mga prepaid at kung sakaling di nila natapos ang oras pwedeng balikan bukas, yan ang wala sa iba na tig 10/hr..

any usb devices including cams nila libre ko pero kung kami ang tatrabaho merong bayad... at their own risk nga lang kung sila.

sinubukan ko din pinalitan ng winxp skin ang ubuntu di rin umubra dahil sa nasanayang gnome. kaya nga walang galawan sa default UI ng ubuntu ewan ko lang sa bagong gnome 3 baka magreklamo na naman mga tomer.


isa lang yang patunay na kahit sino talaga eh kaya naman matutunan ang linux UI ng kahit sino. Pero siguro kung umoisa pa lang ay ginawa mo ng winxp ung UI, siguro ok lng din sa kanila un.... just a thought