PDA

View Full Version : Windows XP sales will be extended now till June 30 2008


Midwest-Linux
September 28th, 2007, 05:29 PM
Windows XP sales will be extended now till June 30 2008

http://techlogg.com/content/view/442/31/


While the company will stop retail and OEM sales of Windows XP come June 30, 2008, Microsoft’s system builder partners will be able to offer Windows XP on new systems up until January 30, 2009.

kulturloseramerikaner
September 29th, 2007, 03:13 AM
There are so many people out there that just want XP instead of Vista, it doesn't surprise me. MS wants their money, and people just aren't buying Vista for the most part; they use it because it's what's on their new system.

Sunforge
September 29th, 2007, 11:16 AM
There has been quite a bit of speculation that people are upgrading their OS when they buy new hardware rather than rushing to upgrade because they fancy a change.

What isn't being talked about is the diaspora of older PCs that are still running Windows 95/98/SE/ME (arg ME) which probably won't be running XP or Vista any time soon.

Beau D.
September 30th, 2007, 11:39 AM
There has been quite a bit of speculation that people are upgrading their OS when they buy new hardware rather than rushing to upgrade because they fancy a change.

What isn't being talked about is the diaspora of older PCs that are still running Windows 95/98/SE/ME (arg ME) which probably won't be running XP or Vista any time soon.

I was at the local hospital the other day..and this is a big place. Likely over 700 computers in various places..all of them still run win2k. Forget vista..these people haven't even moved to XP yet. My friend is an IT guy there..and is having a heck of time now. Stuck in no mans land. Can't move to Vista without buying all new computers (fat chance there) and see's no point in moving to Xp yet. So what's to happen a year or 2 or 3 from now? He's pushing for Linux or BSD as the backbone and turning all the Boxes they have now into thin clients. There DB's and such are already Linux of some type ( I wanna say RH) Hopefully he can pull it off.

Beau D.

Sunforge
September 30th, 2007, 12:05 PM
Yes - FOSS is something that's considered for older hardware when the old OS simply doesn't cut it any more.

You'd be surprised though at the horrified reaction to change once it's been mooted in the IT department unless it's handled very carefully.

Beau D.
September 30th, 2007, 12:22 PM
Who's to know. I have always wondered what a place has to do once you get to an EOL cycle with your OS. I mean do you bite the bullet and order 700 new computers? And then migrate all the data? Seems to me it would be alot more cost effective to recycle your hardware..not have to pay a license fee for a OSS solution, and turn them into thin clients or whatnot. Now you have a super cost effective upgrade path, and some stability for years to come. Just my 2 cents though.

Hey if they do move to a new MS version..I bet I can score some dirt cheap boxes..and guess what will go on them.:lolflag:

Beau D.

Midwest-Linux
September 30th, 2007, 10:59 PM
I was at the local hospital the other day..and this is a big place. Likely over 700 computers in various places..all of them still run win2k. Forget vista..these people haven't even moved to XP yet. My friend is an IT guy there..and is having a heck of time now. Stuck in no mans land. Can't move to Vista without buying all new computers (fat chance there) and see's no point in moving to Xp yet. So what's to happen a year or 2 or 3 from now? He's pushing for Linux or BSD as the backbone and turning all the Boxes they have now into thin clients. There DB's and such are already Linux of some type ( I wanna say RH) Hopefully he can pull it off.

Beau D.

It would take a lot of time, but maybe installing linux on those machines first as a dual boot with windows 2000 could be the answer.

If he could do 10 machines a day thats 70 working days, assuming being able to install linux on five machines at a time ...times two sessions a day.

Within two weeks of installing a dual boot, start having in house classes on linux or do up a in house training video DVD and have a mandate to go exclusively linux within one year after the dual boot install.

Sunforge
October 1st, 2007, 04:06 AM
The one thing that makes sense to any organisation is cash. If it can be proven that a move to operating system X produces Y cash benefit you'll get the accountants on side.

If there's space to produce a spare machine or indeed to dedicate a single machine in key departments to test all the applications that inevitably run in larger organisations that can help the IT department and the folks that will have to use any newer system.

Get documentation together to map out what apps can migrate, what can't migrate and then work out how to handle the things that won't go.

bigb_thedestroyer
October 1st, 2007, 12:44 PM
The one thing that makes sense to any organisation is cash. If it can be proven that a move to operating system X produces Y cash benefit you'll get the accountants on side.


Try telling that to Government Agencies. Except France of course.(The one thing I do applaud them for is there move to Linux). The Governments dont really care to start over and do *new* security testing with a new o/s. If more governments would switch, M$ would really be feeling some of the heat! In fact with the court battles M$ is having in Europe, I want to see the EU go all Linux! HA! Lets hope.

Sunforge
October 1st, 2007, 02:18 PM
I think that the UK public sector is held back by the whole "management by committee" ethos, which sounds fine in principle until you try to get something done at which point you realise that no-one will take responsibility for anything but everyone wants to take the credit. To get any progress you'd need an enlightened risk taker whose career wasn't tied to the public sector, just in case the political winds blew against them.

I can see the French going their own way because, bless them, they want to do it their way. This counts double in what they see as an American dominated OS market (Apple, Microsoft and Sun), with this other option of Linux which doesn't "belong" to one nation.