HOWTO: installation of E17 from CVS (UPDATED)

[Rui Pais]

:KS:guitar:
wel i a m on the e17
but i m lost
lol
THANKS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
i make a french translate of you how to :
http://frechdesign.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=78
Thanks :lolflag:

Glad to hear it :)

At least e17 is a litle "strange" and "depurated" compared to others environment, but as one take some time, try to configure it to his/her tastes and uses it can be very rewarding.
It's so flexible!

Check some of my suggestions for customizations on 1st post, too.

Thanks for the link on the French forum. :)
Your previous method looks a bit complicated (well my french it's extremely limited...)
Just a note, avoid create the .desktop file directly. If the starts (exec) changes name, has it happened before, it will be broken. A symbolic link keep it always synchronized with the install version.
Ohh, and mix e libs on the system used to be the biggest source of weird and hard to trace compile errors.
Avoid too, mixing the 2 ways of installation.


Have fun
:)

[RAV TUX]

Rui Pais, has simplified the installation of e17 on any Debian based distro by building the "Oz OS e17 CVS Deb".

You are welcomed to use the "Oz OS e17 CVS Deb" (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/e17_cvs_0.0-3_all.deb)

For more information & support go to the Oz OS board (http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php/topic,892.0.html) or simply post here in this thread. ;)

[neonl]

My gtk theme it's simply the old Glossy. Nothing fancy.
For me the advantage of Glossy is that it allow to tweak color theme, something implemented on feisty, but that most themes, regrettably, still miss.
Now the difficulty is how to set that color change on a .gtk* file (to use your terminology). Because, default glossy is blue, that i find much more ugly and mismatch then Orange.

Hi.

I recovered this quote from a few posts ago :).

Can you give me a link to a place where this syntax is written? I downloaded gray-theme but I don't like it much...

Regards (good final of weekend :roll:)

EDIT: How can I create a "shortcut" to Shutdown the computer in a shelf?

EDIT#2: Now I'm having a huge problem: I can log into E17, run applications but the widows are invisible, you can only see the border shadow. They are not hanged up, if you know where are the buttons they respond. I think this is a bling module problem, but as I can't see the applications it's impossible to disable it.

[Sketchy]

EDIT#2: Now I'm having a huge problem: I can log into E17, run applications but the widows are invisible, you can only see the border shadow. They are not hanged up, if you know where are the buttons they respond. I think this is a bling module problem, but as I can't see the applications it's impossible to disable it.

I had this same issue using bling.
The terminal will still be functioning, run it from the launcher and type the following:

enlightenment_remote -module-unload bling

Even though you cant see the command it does get sent and everything will switch back to normal instantly.

I would love enlightenment_remote to work outside of e, like it used to.
Anyone know how?

[Ekril]

----------------------------------- Last loglines ------------------------------
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/src/bin'
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/src'
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/src'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/src'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/src'
Making all in data
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/data'
Making all in interfaces
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/data/interfaces'
Making all in etk_test
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/data/interfaces/etk_test'
../../../src/bin/evolve_cc \
-DETK_DEFAULT_THEME=/opt/e17/share/etk/themes/default.edj \
../../../data/interfaces/etk_test/etk_test.etk \
../../../data/interfaces/etk_test/etk_test.eet
line-map.c: file "edje.etk" left but not entered
make[3]: *** [etk_test.eet] Segmentation fault (core dumped)
make[3]: *** Deleting file `etk_test.eet'
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/data/interfaces/etk_test'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/data/interfaces'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/data'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
---

what should i do?

[neonl]

I had this same issue using bling.
The terminal will still be functioning, run it from the launcher and type the following:

enlightenment_remote -module-unload bling

Even though you cant see the command it does get sent and everything will switch back to normal instantly.

I would love enlightenment_remote to work outside of e, like it used to.
Anyone know how?

Thanks a lot dude ;) I was getting worried I needed to install the system all over again! Thx!

[Rui Pais]

Hi.

I recovered this quote from a few posts ago :).

Can you give me a link to a place where this syntax is written? I downloaded gray-theme but I don't like it much...

Regards (good final of weekend :roll:)

EDIT: How can I create a "shortcut" to Shutdown the computer in a shelf?

EDIT#2: Now I'm having a huge problem: I can log into E17, run applications but the widows are invisible, you can only see the border shadow. They are not hanged up, if you know where are the buttons they respond. I think this is a bling module problem, but as I can't see the applications it's impossible to disable it.

Thanks a lot dude ;) I was getting worried I needed to install the system all over again! Thx!

Hi neonl,
sorry my late answer, been running lately (bad weekends and today bureaucracy at Lisboa... a nightmare...)

Yes, thats a problem that happens with gutsy (i think its the X server version).
Sketchy solution is the best option. Or, if one don't feel secure typing blindly at terminal, he/she can move away (temporarily) /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/bling file from a console or another DE.

Anyway, if an e config it's borked beyond hope you don't need to install, just remove your e config by do: rm -rf .e

About the question on gtk syntax... sorry thats something i had already mention. I don't know much (or nothing) about it. If someone have some lights on hit i gladly accept suggestions and ideas,
Till then, the best option would be start gnome-settings-manager or xfce equivalent (see 1st. post) and the tools for config of the gnome/xfce.

About a shutdown icon, just do a launcher wit the following "Executable":
enlightenment_remote -shutdown
thats all, hth.
Rui.

[Rui Pais]

----------------------------------- Last loglines ------------------------------
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/src/bin'
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/src'
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/src'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/src'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/src'
Making all in data
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/data'
Making all in interfaces
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/data/interfaces'
Making all in etk_test
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/data/interfaces/etk_test'
../../../src/bin/evolve_cc \
-DETK_DEFAULT_THEME=/opt/e17/share/etk/themes/default.edj \
../../../data/interfaces/etk_test/etk_test.etk \
../../../data/interfaces/etk_test/etk_test.eet
line-map.c: file "edje.etk" left but not entered
make[3]: *** [etk_test.eet] Segmentation fault (core dumped)
make[3]: *** Deleting file `etk_test.eet'
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/data/interfaces/etk_test'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/data/interfaces'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ekrem/e17_cvs/e17/libs/evolve/data'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
---

what should i do?

Hi,
evolve it's broken and/or can compile under Ubuntu.
It's a developer tool, not need for a normal user. You can (must) skip it.
Check the warning about it on 1st. post.

Rui

[Rui Pais]

Rui Pais, has simplified the installation of e17 on any Debian based distro by building the "Oz OS e17 CVS Deb".

You are welcomed to use the "Oz OS e17 CVS Deb" (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/e17_cvs_0.0-3_all.deb)

For more information & support go to the Oz OS board (http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php/topic,892.0.html) or simply post here in this thread. ;)

Hi all.

Thanks RAV TUX.


I'm glad to inform you that, as RAV TUX mentioned above, there are now a much better approach yo this method, full automatic and full compatible.

Please check the new version of the 1st post.
Thank you all, for your trials, your posts and suggestions and your courage to give a try to this wonderful environment.

Rui.

[neonl]

Hi neonl,
sorry my late answer, been running lately (bad weekends and today bureaucracy at Lisboa... a nightmare...)

Yes, thats a problem that happens with gutsy (i think its the X server version). Ekril solution is the best option. Or, if you one don't feel secure typing blidly at terminal, can move away (temporarily) /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/bling file from a console or another DE.
Anyway, if an e config it's borked beyond hope you don't need to install, just remove your e config by do: rm -rf .e

About the question on gtk syntax... sorry thats something i had already mention. I don't know much (or nothing) about it. If someone have some lights on hit i gladly accept suggestions and ideas,
Till then, the best option would be start gnome-settings-manager or xfce equivalent (see 1st. post) and the tools for config of the gnome/xfce.

About a shutdown icon, just do a launcher wit the following "Executable":
enlightenment_remote -shutdown
thats all, hth.
Rui.

Thanks for all the answers. Everything I need is done.

It's in this occasions when I think "how is it possible to use Window$"?! :)

Regards

[neonl]

Hi all.

Thanks RAV TUX.


I'm glad to inform you that, as RAV TUX mentioned above, there are now a much better approach yo this method, full automatic and full compatible.

Please check the new version of the 1st post.
Thank you all, for your trials, your posts and suggestions and your courage to give a try to this wonderful environment.

Rui.

Rui, I went to that post, but I didn't quite understand what exactly is that .deb... Is it a program to install, update, etc from the CVS? If so, it's kind of a substitute for the morenlexus script?

Thanks

[Rui Pais]

Rui, I went to that post, but I didn't quite understand what exactly is that .deb... Is it a program to install, update, etc from the CVS? If so, it's kind of a substitute for the morenlexus script?

Thanks

Thanks for asking :)

Well it's in fact a (basic) wrapper for the **all** how-to. It still uses morlenxus script.
A user will not need to do anything anymore.
Just install the deb, wait till it finishes and login to his/her new fresh enlightenment.
(My ultimate quest, make all e17 users lazy :lol:)

For distro creators, a deb can be useful either as for a quick way of build the e environment or to require a running distro based on that to do an upgrade, always accessible manually at any time, anyway. I keep the thing as flexible as possible.

Hope you all like it
:)

[neonl]

Thanks for asking :)

Well it's in fact a (basic) wrapper for the **all** how-to. It still uses morlenxus script.
A user will not need to do anything anymore.
Just install the deb, wait till it finishes and login to his/her new fresh enlightenment.
(My ultimate quest, make all e17 users lazy :lol:)

For distro creators, a deb can be useful either as for a quick way of build the e environment or to require a running distro based on that to do an upgrade, always accessible manually at any time, anyway. I keep the thing as flexible as possible.

Hope you all like it
:)

Well that must be cool. I was trying to do an Enlightenment distro based on Ubuntu server with the "cool" apps for doing stuff pre-installed, but my knowledge of Linux aren't enough for that. Besides have lots of Maths and Physics to study (I think you know what this is :D).

Cumpz ;)

[mahalos]

After installing the .Deb I get an error when i try to log into Enlightenment saying

"No Exec line in the session file: enlightenment Running gnome failsafe session instead"

I was messing around trying to compile E17 just before the .Deb was released. I'm wondering if it's buggered something up along the way...

any ideas?

[smartboyathome]

By the way, I just experienced another glitch (you should really put together a problem faq on the first post, Rui). You have to leave your rendering engine on Software, or else new windows will open up without borders.

[rockmanac]

I'm not getting the 'evolve' error, but the following:

--------------------------- Installing libraries (EFL) -------------------------
- eet ........................ ok
- evas ....................... ok
- ecore ...................... ok
- efreet ..................... ok
- epeg ....................... ok
- embryo ..................... ok
- edje ....................... ok
- epsilon .................... ok
- esmart ..................... ok
- emotion .................... SKIPPED
- engrave .................... ok
- etk ........................ ok
- etk_extra .................. ok
- ewl ........................ ERROR!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------- Last loglines ------------------------------
edje_cc: Wrote 5741 bytes ( 6Kb) for "images/1" image entry "e17_gadman_overlay_right.png" compress: [raw: 90.1%] [real: -109.0%]
edje_cc: Wrote 660 bytes ( 1Kb) for "images/2" image entry "e17_menu_bg.png" compress: [raw: 14.1%] [real: -312.5%]
edje_cc: Wrote 1492 bytes ( 1Kb) for "collections/0" collection entry
Summary:
Wrote 1 collections
Wrote 3 images
Wrote 0 fonts
Wrote 710 bytes (1Kb) of original source data
Wrote 0 bytes (0Kb) of original source font map
Conservative compression summary:
Wrote total 14294 bytes (14Kb) from 5557 (5Kb) input data
Output file is 257.2% the size of the input data
Saved -8737 bytes (-8Kb)
Raw compression summary:
Wrote total 14294 bytes (14Kb) from 116368 (114Kb) raw input data
Output file is 12.3% the size of the raw input data
Saved 102074 bytes (100Kb)
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/adam/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes/ewl_embed_test'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/adam/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/adam/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/adam/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl'
make: *** [all] Error 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Suggestions?

-Adam

[mahalos]

I got the exact same error as adam, but tried to login anyway and got he error I posted above.

[SomeGuyDude]

I got the exact same error as adam, but tried to login anyway and got he error I posted above.

I got that error as well. I figured it was because I just ran the .deb instead of installing it from the terminal, so I'm currently attempting that route. We'll see how it goes.

[-grubby]

I seem to have a problem installing it: here is the output I got from installing it from Gdebi (a link Rav Tux posted in his apt:get thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=617995&page=2)

-------------------------------- Build phase 2/3 -------------------------------
- lib-compilation and installation
- apps-compilation and installation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


--------------------------- Installing libraries (EFL) -------------------------
- eet . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- evas . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- ecore . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- efreet . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- epeg . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- embryo . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- edje . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- epsilon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- esmart . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- emotion . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- engrave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- etk . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- etk_extra . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- ewl . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- exml . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- enhance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- e_dbus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

---------------------------- Installing applications ---------------------------
- e . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- eclair . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- evfs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- edje_viewer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- edje_editor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- elicit . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- elitaire . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- emphasis . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- empower . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- engycad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- ephoto . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- estickies . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- exhibit . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- expedite . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- extrackt . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- enthrall . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- rage . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------- Installing e17 modules ---------------------------
- alarm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- bling . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- calendar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . autok
- cpu . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- deskshow . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- flame . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- forecasts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- language . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- mail . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- mem . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- mixer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- moon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- net . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- news . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- photo . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- rain . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- screenshot . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ERROR!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------- Last loglines ------------------------------
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs. . . immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible. . . yes
checking if libtool supports shared libraries. . . yes
checking whether to build shared libraries. . . yes
checking whether to build static libraries. . . yes
configure: creating libtool
checking whether NLS is requested. . . yes
checking for msgfmt. . . /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for gmsgfmt. . . /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for xgettext. . . /usr/bin/xgettext
checking for msgmerge. . . /usr/bin/msgmerge
checking for ld used by GCC. . . /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld. . . yes
checking for shared library run path origin. . . done
checking whether NLS is requested. . . yes
checking for GNU gettext in libc. . . yes
checking whether to use NLS. . . yes
checking where the gettext function comes from. . . libc
checking for edje_cc. . . /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
checking for enlightenment-config. . . /opt/e17/bin/enlightenment-config
checking for import. . . no
configure: WARNING: Import not found
checking for scrot. . . no
configure: WARNING: Scrot not found
configure: error: "You do not have import or scrot installed. "
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-> Get more informations by checking the log file '/tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/screenshot. log'!

[rockmanac]

I don't know what changed in a day, but I was fully able to install using the .deb file today.

-Adam

[neonl]

I'm not getting the 'evolve' error, but the following:

--------------------------- Installing libraries (EFL) -------------------------
- eet ........................ ok
- evas ....................... ok
- ecore ...................... ok
- efreet ..................... ok
- epeg ....................... ok
- embryo ..................... ok
- edje ....................... ok
- epsilon .................... ok
- esmart ..................... ok
- emotion .................... SKIPPED
- engrave .................... ok
- etk ........................ ok
- etk_extra .................. ok
- ewl ........................ ERROR!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------- Last loglines ------------------------------
edje_cc: Wrote 5741 bytes ( 6Kb) for "images/1" image entry "e17_gadman_overlay_right.png" compress: [raw: 90.1%] [real: -109.0%]
edje_cc: Wrote 660 bytes ( 1Kb) for "images/2" image entry "e17_menu_bg.png" compress: [raw: 14.1%] [real: -312.5%]
edje_cc: Wrote 1492 bytes ( 1Kb) for "collections/0" collection entry
Summary:
Wrote 1 collections
Wrote 3 images
Wrote 0 fonts
Wrote 710 bytes (1Kb) of original source data
Wrote 0 bytes (0Kb) of original source font map
Conservative compression summary:
Wrote total 14294 bytes (14Kb) from 5557 (5Kb) input data
Output file is 257.2% the size of the input data
Saved -8737 bytes (-8Kb)
Raw compression summary:
Wrote total 14294 bytes (14Kb) from 116368 (114Kb) raw input data
Output file is 12.3% the size of the raw input data
Saved 102074 bytes (100Kb)
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/adam/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes/ewl_embed_test'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/adam/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/adam/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/adam/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl'
make: *** [all] Error 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Suggestions?

-Adam

I got the exact same error as adam, but tried to login anyway and got he error I posted above.

I got that error as well. I figured it was because I just ran the .deb instead of installing it from the terminal, so I'm currently attempting that route. We'll see how it goes.

God! This has been a so long subject talked in this thread. EWL is giving this problem, and the solution is try again, if you get the same error, try once more.

I seem to have a problem installing it: here is the output I got from installing it from Gdebi (a link Rav Tux posted in his apt:get thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=617995&page=2)

-------------------------------- Build phase 2/3 -------------------------------
- lib-compilation and installation
- apps-compilation and installation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


--------------------------- Installing libraries (EFL) -------------------------
- eet . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- evas . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- ecore . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- efreet . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- epeg . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- embryo . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- edje . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- epsilon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- esmart . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- emotion . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- engrave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- etk . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- etk_extra . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- ewl . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- exml . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- enhance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- e_dbus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

---------------------------- Installing applications ---------------------------
- e . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- eclair . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- evfs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- edje_viewer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- edje_editor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- elicit . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- elitaire . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- emphasis . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- empower . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- engycad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- ephoto . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- estickies . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- exhibit . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- expedite . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- extrackt . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- enthrall . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- rage . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------- Installing e17 modules ---------------------------
- alarm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- bling . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- calendar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . autok
- cpu . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- deskshow . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- flame . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- forecasts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- language . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- mail . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- mem . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- mixer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- moon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- net . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok
- news . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- photo . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- rain . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKIPPED
- screenshot . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ERROR!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------- Last loglines ------------------------------
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs. . . immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible. . . yes
checking if libtool supports shared libraries. . . yes
checking whether to build shared libraries. . . yes
checking whether to build static libraries. . . yes
configure: creating libtool
checking whether NLS is requested. . . yes
checking for msgfmt. . . /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for gmsgfmt. . . /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for xgettext. . . /usr/bin/xgettext
checking for msgmerge. . . /usr/bin/msgmerge
checking for ld used by GCC. . . /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld. . . yes
checking for shared library run path origin. . . done
checking whether NLS is requested. . . yes
checking for GNU gettext in libc. . . yes
checking whether to use NLS. . . yes
checking where the gettext function comes from. . . libc
checking for edje_cc. . . /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
checking for enlightenment-config. . . /opt/e17/bin/enlightenment-config
checking for import. . . no
configure: WARNING: Import not found
checking for scrot. . . no
configure: WARNING: Scrot not found
configure: error: "You do not have import or scrot installed. "
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-> Get more informations by checking the log file '/tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/screenshot. log'!

Do you have "scrot" installed? If not, install it:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install scrot

[Rui Pais]

Hi all,
sorry today i've been very busy and only now i see the huge quantity of post that appear.
Thank you all for trying it.

Thanks neonl for answering about the ewl issue.
Thats true an annoying bug seems to prevent the compile of ewl in one step for users doing it for the first time...
I make the mistake to remove that warning from the 1st. post.
I will put it there immediately to avoid further complications (I know people don't read full threads before try the how-tos :)) Sorry for the inconvenience.

Rui

[john_spiral]

Hi,

I attempting to install the .deb on Ubuntu 7.1 base (without a display manger).

what stuff will I need to install before attempting the install from the .deb file?

thanks

John

[neonl]

Hi all,
sorry today i've been very busy and only now i see the huge quantity of post that appear.
Thank you all for trying it.

Thanks neonl for answering about the ewl issue.
Thats true an annoying bug seems to prevent the compile of ewl in one step for users doing it for the first time...
I make the mistake to remove that warning from the 1st. post.
I will put it there immediately to avoid further complications (I know people don't read full threads before try the how-tos :)) Sorry for the inconvenience.

Rui

Hi Rui.

Finally someone installed E17 with the tutorial @ techzonept.
I wanted to ask two things, one is that - if you can - pass there, to answer one thing to that guy, and the other one is if you think that I should update that Howto for the new .deb package?

Hug, Rui

[Rui Pais]

Another 2 points.
For non-critical packages the deb do not install dependencies (only suggest them). Right now the one suggested are: libxine-dev, libmpd-dev, scrot, alsamixergui. Of course if that was a deb from a repo user would install suggested packages with apt or aptitude, since it's not the case (it's planned for the future project Oz that RAV TUX mentioned) the user will have to install them when needed.
I will add that to the How-To.

Finally i change my first version of the new how-to. For the same reasons, dpkg will not install the debs dependency. So a simple solution it's use gdebi on command line:

sudo gdebi e17_cvs_0.0-3_all.deb

[neonl]

Hi,

I attempting to install the .deb on Ubuntu 7.1 base (without a display manger).

what stuff will I need to install before attempting the install from the .deb file?

thanks

John

I don't know if you need the compiling tools that were referred in the old method:sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install build-essential cvs libtool libltdl3-dev automake1.9 autotools-dev libpopt-dev libcurl3-dev libx11-dev x11proto-xext-dev libbz2-dev libid3tag0-dev libpng12-dev libtiff4-dev libungif4-dev libjpeg62-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev bison flex gettext libimlib2-dev libxml2-dev libxcursor-dev libgtk1.2-dev autoconf pkg-config libpng3-dev libxine-dev libxkbfile-dev libsqlite3-dev giblib-dev libxmu-dev libxdamage-dev libxcomposite-dev libtag1-dev libtagc0-dev giblib-dev libasound2-dev libxslt-dev libpam0g-dev libdbus-1-devbut I think you don't, if you did, Rui would have mentioned.

I didn't try the new .deb, but if you skip those things (entrance, the filemaneger, etc) you must install replacements with GTK apps like xfce4-terminal, thunar, any media player...

[Rui Pais]

Hi,

I attempting to install the .deb on Ubuntu 7.1 base (without a display manger).

what stuff will I need to install before attempting the install from the .deb file?

thanks

John

Hi,
a brave man :)

I am very interested in that... (i'm to do that for at least a week and can't find time to do it :()

In theory you need first xorg, gdm and gdebi:
then install deb with gdebi from command line (see my previous post).

You should be able to get any extra app from your running e17 later.

Please, give feed back on how it runs, ok?

Many thanks

[Rui Pais]

After installing the .Deb I get an error when i try to log into Enlightenment saying

"No Exec line in the session file: enlightenment Running gnome failsafe session instead"

I was messing around trying to compile E17 just before the .Deb was released. I'm wondering if it's buggered something up along the way...

any ideas?

Hi,
yes could be that or maybe you find a bug...

You post later that you have hit the ewl bug. Do you solve the previous issue? or do you started from fresh?

Do you still have problems with login?

[Rui Pais]

Hi Rui.

Finally someone installed E17 with the tutorial @ techzonept.
I wanted to ask two things, one is that - if you can - pass there, to answer one thing to that guy, and the other one is if you think that I should update that Howto for the new .deb package?

Hug, Rui

Hi RM,
Yes i will give a eye on hit and try to post but i i can only do it in a hour or so (put C to O-O, my time ;))

And yes, the new deb it's easier and do exactly what a user would do by hand, automatically (less type errors and so...)

I don't know if you need the compiling tools that were referred in the old method:sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install build-essential cvs libtool libltdl3-dev automake1.9 autotools-dev libpopt-dev libcurl3-dev libx11-dev x11proto-xext-dev libbz2-dev libid3tag0-dev libpng12-dev libtiff4-dev libungif4-dev libjpeg62-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev bison flex gettext libimlib2-dev libxml2-dev libxcursor-dev libgtk1.2-dev autoconf pkg-config libpng3-dev libxine-dev libxkbfile-dev libsqlite3-dev giblib-dev libxmu-dev libxdamage-dev libxcomposite-dev libtag1-dev libtagc0-dev giblib-dev libasound2-dev libxslt-dev libpam0g-dev libdbus-1-devbut I think you don't, if you did, Rui would have mentioned.

I didn't try the new .deb, but if you skip those things (entrance, the filemaneger, etc) you must install replacements with GTK apps like xfce4-terminal, thunar, any media player...

Thats it, deb will take care of needed dependencies (as long as it runs by gdebi). Install manually any of libxine-dev, libmpd-dev, scrot, alsamixergui as need.

Good luck all
rui

[neonl]

Hi,

I attempting to install the .deb on Ubuntu 7.1 base (without a display manger).

what stuff will I need to install before attempting the install from the .deb file?

thanks

John

Hi,
a brave man :)

I am very interested in that... (i'm to do that for at least a week and can't find time to do it :()

In theory you need first xorg, gdm and gdebi:
then install deb with gdebi from command line (see my previous post).

You should be able to get any extra app from your running e17 later.

Please, give feed back on how it runs, ok?

Many thanks

I'm also doing that. Creating a thing called "Encharcada Linux", kind of silly :D.

EDIT:Hi RM,
Yes i will give a eye on hit and try to post but i i can only do it in a hour or so (put C to O-O, my time ;))

And yes, the new deb it's easier and do exactly what a user would do by hand, automatically (less type errors and so...)



Thats it, deb will take care of needed dependencies (as long as it runs by gdebi). Install manually any of libxine-dev, libmpd-dev, scrot, alsamixergui as need.

Good luck all
rui Thanks, no problem I wait (have to study :D)...

[Rui Pais]

Hi,

I attempting to install the .deb on Ubuntu 7.1 base (without a display manger).

what stuff will I need to install before attempting the install from the .deb file?

thanks

John

Another suggestion (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3808602&postcount=26) (not tested, but reports on success or failure are welcome)


@neonl
It seems that Pt question will have to wait till tomorrow... sorry
Check the link above too for "Encharcada" (what a strange name... não tens medo que meta água? :lol:)



@all
I uploaded a new deb.
Solved the issue of scrot (my mistake, sorry for the inconvenience)
If anyone that get this issue in the past and finish by the installation after install scrot may need too:
sudo easy_e17.sh --only=slideshow,tclock,uptime,weather,winselect,wla n

It work now on Edgy too (tested)
It compile on slow machines without eating all resources (a bad choice i made before, corrected)

Have all fun

[Caffeine_Junky]

... hey there Rui Pais

I have just installed the .deb: "e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all" on a fresh install of Xubuntu 7.10, ...the install went well, but when I try to login to the "enlightenment.desktop" session, .. I get the error:

Error message = "No Exec in the session file: enlightenment"

...also, when I run in terminal "whereis enlightenment"
I get this reply:
ash@xubu:~$ whereis enlightenment
enlightenment:
ash@xubu:~$

cheers mate

ps: thanks for making the .deb, it is a great idea!

[Rui Pais]

... hey there Rui Pais

I have just installed the .deb: "e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all" on a fresh install of Xubuntu 7.10, ...the install went well, but when I try to login to the "enlightenment.desktop" session, .. I get the error:

Error message = "No Exec in the session file: enlightenment"

...also, when I run in terminal "whereis enlightenment"
I get this reply:
ash@xubu:~$ whereis enlightenment
enlightenment:
ash@xubu:~$

cheers mate

ps: thanks for making the .deb, it is a great idea!

Hi Caffeine_Junky,
Thanks for try it :)
Are you sure that installer finish successfully?
Did it aborted 1st time on ewl? have you redo the gdebi command?

can you post the output of:
apt-cache show e17-cvs|grep Status
cat /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop
and
ls /opt/e17/bin/
please

[Caffeine_Junky]

Hey again :)

Thanks for try it
Are you sure that installer finish successfully?
Did it aborted 1st time on ewl? have you redo the gdebi command?
I will post the terminal output of the commands you posted, hopefully they will answer your questions :)

I'm not sure what is meant by:"have you redo the gdebi command?"

But anyhow, here is the output you asked for:

ash@xubu:~$ apt-cache show e17-cvs|grep Status
Status: install ok installed
ash@xubu:~$

ash@xubu:~$ cat /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop
cat: /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop: No such file or directory
ash@xubu:~$

ash@xubu:~$ ls /opt/e17/bin/
ecore_config efreet_cache_test engrave_test esmart_text_entry_test
edje_cc efreet_menu_alloc epeg etk_prefs
edje_decc efreet_spec_test epsilon etk_test
edje_recc efreet_test epsilon_thumbd
eet embryo_cc epsilon_thumb_test
efreet_alloc engrave_canvas_test esmart_test
ash@xubu:~$


Thanks for your help mate

[Rui Pais]

Hey again :)


I will post the terminal output of the commands you posted, hopefully they will answer your questions :)

I'm not sure what is meant by:"have you redo the gdebi command?"

But anyhow, here is the output you asked for:

ash@xubu:~$ apt-cache show e17-cvs|grep Status
Status: install ok installed
ash@xubu:~$

ash@xubu:~$ cat /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop
cat: /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop: No such file or directory
ash@xubu:~$

ash@xubu:~$ ls /opt/e17/bin/
ecore_config efreet_cache_test engrave_test esmart_text_entry_test
edje_cc efreet_menu_alloc epeg etk_prefs
edje_decc efreet_spec_test epsilon etk_test
edje_recc efreet_test epsilon_thumbd
eet embryo_cc epsilon_thumb_test
efreet_alloc engrave_canvas_test esmart_test
ash@xubu:~$


Thanks for your help mate

You're welcome :)
(and helping too)

There is an issue with ewl package.
When one installs from fresh it usually aborts at that package (you may not noted in the output...)
That's not a really stopper, if one try it again it continues without the problem appears (must be a wrong check sequence on make/install scripts i think).

So your installation it's not finished in fact, it must be restarted again with:
sudo gdebi e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all.deb
and check if it says that you successfully finished.

Good luck and post on any failure.
Rui

[Caffeine_Junky]

I'm baaaaack :lolflag:

I ran the: sudo gdebi e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all.deb command, and still had no success..

Should I completely remove the package from Synaptic and just install using the " sudo gdebi e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all.deb " command?

Here is the terminal output from the " sudo gdebi e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all.deb " command I just ran..

ash@xubu:~$ sudo gdebi e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all.deb
[sudo] password for ash:
Reading package lists: Done
Reading state information: Done
Reading state information: Done
Reading state information: Done


Enlightenment (e17) from cvs.
Live installer for Oz OS and Ubuntu 7.04/7.10.
It will get/update cvs code, compile and install a functional and stable enlightenment.
.
What is Enlightenment?
Enlightenment is a window manager. Enlightenment is a desktop shell.
Enlightenment is the building blocks to create beautiful applications.
Enlightenment, or simply e, is a group of people trying to make a new generation of software.
.
This package does not contain binaries, Enlightenment will be compiled from cvs code.
Do you want to install the software package? [y/N]:y
(Reading database ... 94934 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace e17-cvs 0.0-3.1 (using e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement e17-cvs ...
Setting up e17-cvs (0.0-3.1) ...

------------------------------- Easy_e17.sh 1.1.4-a ------------------------------
Developers: Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy
David 'onefang' Seikel
Contributors: Tim 'wtfoo' Zebulla
Daniel G. '_ke' Siegel
Stefan 'slax' Langner
Massimiliano 'Massi' Calamelli
Thomas 'thomasg' Gstaedtner

----------------------------- Current Configuration ----------------------------
Install path: /opt/e17
CVS path: /home/ash/.e17_cvs
CVS server: :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.enlightenment.org:/var/cvs/e
Logs path: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs
OS: Linux (Distribution: debian)


Script action: install
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------- Build phase 1/3 -------------------------------
- running some basic system checks
- pre cleaning
- cvs checkout/update
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


------------------------------- Basic system checks ----------------------------
- cvs-dir .................... ok
- creating script dirs ....... ok
- build-user ................. root
- adding path to env ......... ok
- checking lib-path in ldc ... ok (/etc/ld.so.conf.d/e17.conf)
- setting compile options .... ok
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------- CVS checkout/update ----------------------------
- updating source of repo 'e17' (please wait, this won't output much) ...
cvs update: CVS password file /home/ash/.cvspass does not exist - creating a new file
? libs/efreet/efreet.spec
? libs/etk_extra/etk_extra_cairo.pc
? libs/etk_extra/etk_extra_tree_model_wobbly.pc
? libs/etk_extra/etk_extra_video.pc
P libs/ewl/src/bin/tests/callback/ewl_callback.c
P libs/ewl/src/lib/ewl_callback.c

- updating source of repo 'misc' (please wait, this won't output much) ...
cvs update: CVS password file /home/ash/.cvspass does not exist - creating a new file

- updating source of repo 'e_modules' (please wait, this won't output much) ...
cvs update: CVS password file /home/ash/.cvspass does not exist - creating a new file

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-> PREPARING FOR PHASE 2...
------------------------------- Easy_e17.sh 1.1.4-a ------------------------------
Developers: Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy
David 'onefang' Seikel
Contributors: Tim 'wtfoo' Zebulla
Daniel G. '_ke' Siegel
Stefan 'slax' Langner
Massimiliano 'Massi' Calamelli
Thomas 'thomasg' Gstaedtner

----------------------------- Current Configuration ----------------------------
Install path: /opt/e17
CVS path: /home/ash/.e17_cvs
CVS server: :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.enlightenment.org:/var/cvs/e
Logs path: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs
OS: Linux (Distribution: debian)


Script action: install
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------- Build phase 2/3 -------------------------------
- lib-compilation and installation
- apps-compilation and installation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


--------------------------- Installing libraries (EFL) -------------------------
- eet ........................ ok
- evas ....................... ok
- ecore ...................... ok
- efreet ..................... ok
- epeg ....................... ok
- embryo ..................... ok
- edje ....................... ok
- epsilon .................... ok
- esmart ..................... ok
- emotion .................... SKIPPED
- engrave .................... ok
- etk ........................ ok
- etk_extra .................. ok
- ewl ........................ ERROR!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------- Last loglines ------------------------------
Summary:
Wrote 1 collections
Wrote 3 images
Wrote 0 fonts
Wrote 710 bytes (1Kb) of original source data
Wrote 0 bytes (0Kb) of original source font map
Conservative compression summary:
Wrote total 14294 bytes (14Kb) from 5557 (5Kb) input data
Output file is 257.2% the size of the input data
Saved -8737 bytes (-8Kb)
Raw compression summary:
Wrote total 14294 bytes (14Kb) from 116368 (114Kb) raw input data
Output file is 12.3% the size of the raw input data
Saved 102074 bytes (100Kb)
make[5]: *** [ewl_embed_test.edj] Error 255
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/ash/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes/ewl_embed_test'
make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/ash/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes/ewl_embed_test'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/ash/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ash/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ash/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl'
make: *** [all] Error 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-> Get more informations by checking the log file '/tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/ewl.log'!



ash@xubu:~$


Thanks again

[Rui Pais]

I'm baaaaack :lolflag:

I ran the: sudo gdebi e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all.deb command, and still had no success..

Should I completely remove the package from Synaptic and just install using the " sudo gdebi e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all.deb " command?

Here is the terminal output from the " sudo gdebi e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all.deb " command I just ran..

ash@xubu:~$ sudo gdebi e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all.deb
...
----------------------------------- Last loglines ------------------------------
Summary:
Wrote 1 collections
Wrote 3 images
Wrote 0 fonts
Wrote 710 bytes (1Kb) of original source data
Wrote 0 bytes (0Kb) of original source font map
Conservative compression summary:
Wrote total 14294 bytes (14Kb) from 5557 (5Kb) input data
Output file is 257.2% the size of the input data
Saved -8737 bytes (-8Kb)
Raw compression summary:
Wrote total 14294 bytes (14Kb) from 116368 (114Kb) raw input data
Output file is 12.3% the size of the raw input data
Saved 102074 bytes (100Kb)
make[5]: *** [ewl_embed_test.edj] Error 255
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/ash/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes/ewl_embed_test'
make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/ash/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes/ewl_embed_test'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/ash/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ash/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ash/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl'
make: *** [all] Error 2
...


Ok, thats the error that i mentioned.
Now if you run
sudo gdebi e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all.deb
it should go on and the error should not appear again.

Good luck.

[Caffeine_Junky]

Thanks Rui Pais :)

The second run of the gdebi command did the trick! (I'm posting this from my fresh e17 session)

thanks mate!

[Rui Pais]

Thanks Rui Pais :)

The second run of the gdebi command did the trick! (I'm posting this from my fresh e17 session)

thanks mate!

Glad to know :)

Luckly this ewl issue is being addressed right now, theres been a lot of cvs changes related to ewl callback tests (http://cia.vc/stats/project/e/e17/libs/ewl), lets hope it will be fixed soon.

Note that any new updates or full installs with an existent cvs tree don't give that error, luckly.

Have fun.

[Rui Pais]

By the way, I just experienced another glitch (you should really put together a problem faq on the first post, Rui). You have to leave your rendering engine on Software, or else new windows will open up without borders.

Hi smartboyathome (i like your user name ;))

Sorry i almost slipped this post of yours. I know that issue has been addressed but i wanted to post a link here.

Please, anyone having problems with bling module, please check suggestions here (http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php/topic,894.0.html).

On rendering engines. That part i don't understand much, sorry.
I use the default. I will search for an interesting discussion of the subject on Gentoo forum...
Anyone with hard questions on this specific issue can ask there, theres 2 or 3 guys on know a lot more on that than me.
Here (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-529895-start-600-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html) the actual thread on e17.

Thanks.

[neonl]

Another suggestion (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3808602&postcount=26) (not tested, but reports on success or failure are welcome)


@neonl
It seems that Pt question will have to wait till tomorrow... sorry
Check the link above too for "Encharcada" (what a strange name... não tens medo que meta água? :lol:)

Encharcada's name is a double trick. First, it starts with EN and in second place, is the name of a typical Portuguese desert (you must know, in my opinion is delicious) and I wanted a desert name inspired on Sabayon Linux, Sabayon it's an Italian desert... Still a bad name though :lol:

[Rui Pais]

Encharcada's name is a double trick. First, it starts with EN and in second place, is the name of a typical Portuguese desert (you must know, in my opinion is delicious) and I wanted a desert name inspired on Sabayon Linux, Sabayon it's an Italian desert... Still a bad name though :lol:

Ah, i see :lol:
I had already get the beginning with En ... btw, i don't think i ever eat it :(



-------------------------------------------------------------

@all
I have updated the deb (although i keep the number version to preserve links)
I advise anyone to upgrade.
It now skips bling module to avoid the issue of invisible windows.
Users that want to try it anyway have to edit /etc/.easy_e17.conf --skip list by hand in the usual way,
but i recommend to use this method here (http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php/topic,894.msg2447.htm).

It now cleans e17 installations.
sudo apt-get remove e17-cvs
deletes conf file and remove entry from gdm/kdm.

sudo aptitude purge e17-cvs
removes too the installation on /opt/e17

.e17_cvs code tree must be deleted by hand (the less times one download it, less loads will be upon e17 cvs servers and less time wasted for the user on installs)

It removes too some annoying bugs on BlackEmerald theme (installed by default) Check more here (http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php/topic,885.0.html).

hope you all like it :)
Rui

[b9anders]

I tried using the deb on sidux. didn't use gdebi as I didn't want to pull in gnome libs jst for that. probably a crude roundabout way of doing it but doing 'apt-get -f install' after 'dpkg -i' fails pulls in all the dependencies. on the second dpkg -i ecore failed to compile though. here's the relevant output:

------------------------------- CVS checkout/update ----------------------------
- updating source of repo 'e17' (please wait, this won't output much) ...
cvs update: CVS password file /root/.cvspass does not exist - creating a new file
? libs/ecore/src/lib/ecore_imf_evas/ecore_imf_evas.loT

- updating source of repo 'misc' (please wait, this won't output much) ...
cvs update: CVS password file /root/.cvspass does not exist - creating a new file

- updating source of repo 'e_modules' (please wait, this won't output much) ...
cvs update: CVS password file /root/.cvspass does not exist - creating a new file

-------------------------- Installing libraries (EFL) -------------------------
- eet ........................ ok
- evas ....................... ok
- ecore ...................... ERROR!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------- Last loglines ------------------------------
Making all in ecore_imf
make[4]: going to folder '/root/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib/ecore_imf'
make[4]: Nothing to do for 'all'.
make[4]: leaving folder '/root/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib/ecore_imf'
Making all in ecore_imf_evas
make[4]: going to folder '/root/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib/ecore_imf_evas'
if /bin/sh ../../../libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I../../../src/lib/ecore_imf -I/opt/e17/include -I/opt/e17/include -MT ecore_imf_evas.lo -MD -MP -MF ".deps/ecore_imf_evas.Tpo" -c -o ecore_imf_evas.lo ecore_imf_evas.c; \
then mv -f ".deps/ecore_imf_evas.Tpo" ".deps/ecore_imf_evas.Plo"; else rm -f ".deps/ecore_imf_evas.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I../../../src/lib/ecore_imf -I/opt/e17/include -I/opt/e17/include -MT ecore_imf_evas.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ecore_imf_evas.Tpo -c ecore_imf_evas.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/ecore_imf_evas.o
In file included from Ecore_IMF_Evas.h:28,
from ecore_imf_evas.c:7:
../../../src/lib/ecore_imf/Ecore_IMF.h:28:24: error: Ecore_Data.h: No such file or directory
In file included from Ecore_IMF_Evas.h:28,
from ecore_imf_evas.c:7:
../../../src/lib/ecore_imf/Ecore_IMF.h:291: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token
../../../src/lib/ecore_imf/Ecore_IMF.h:292: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token
make[4]: *** [ecore_imf_evas.lo] Error 1
make[4]: leaving folder '/root/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib/ecore_imf_evas'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: leaving folder '/root/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: leaving folder '/root/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ecore/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: leaving folder '/root/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ecore'
make: *** [all] Error 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-> Get more informations by checking the log file '/tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/ecore.log'!



edit - PS. Just discovered a kde version of gdebi. Told me all dependencies are satisfied so my crude method of satisfying dependencies does work.

[Rui Pais]

I tried using the deb on sidux. didn't use gdebi as I didn't want to pull in gnome libs jst for that. probably a crude roundabout way of doing it but doing 'apt-get -f install' after 'dpkg -i' fails pulls in all the dependencies. on the second dpkg -i ecore failed to compile though.

Hi b9anders,
sorry but that would only work if the deb contained already precompiled binaries.
You need the dependencies installed before run the deb/compile the code.
Try this way:
sudo aptitude install build-essential cvs libtool libltdl3-dev automake1.9 autotools-dev libpopt-dev libcurl3-dev libx11-dev x11proto-xext-dev libbz2-dev libid3tag0-dev libpng12-dev libtiff4-dev libungif4-dev libjpeg62-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev bison flex gettext libimlib2-dev libxml2-dev libxcursor-dev libgtk1.2-dev autoconf pkg-config libpng3-dev libxkbfile-dev libsqlite3-dev giblib-dev libxmu-dev libxdamage-dev libxcomposite-dev libtag1-dev libtagc0-dev giblib-dev libasound2-dev libxslt-dev libpam0g-dev libdbus-1-dev

and then
sudo dpkg -i e17_cvs_0.0-3.1_all.deb

good luck

[McDuff]

no, b9anders is right. after executing dpkg -i the first time without the dependencies installed, apt-get -f install will pick up the list of missing dependencies and try to resolve them. i wouldn't even call it a dirty method ;) it's quite useful, if you are installing from a commandline install.

[Rui Pais]

no, b9anders is right. after executing dpkg -i the first time without the dependencies installed, apt-get -f install will pick up the list of missing dependencies and try to resolve them. i wouldn't even call it a dirty method ;) it's quite useful, if you are installing from a commandline install.

Yes, but thats not the point in this case. the deb it's just a wrapper for the script and conf files. Even code it's download after install. dependencies, besides compile tools contains too the header files, needed for compile.
With binaries works cause they are already compiled, so as soon as you get the dependencies they can run... in this case run a dpkg an apt and a dpkg again when there are a correct procedure it's more then dirty, it's shooting voluntarily your own foots.

I believe theres a way to do that using dpk, apt or aptitude, but i don't know why (which flags exactly). gdebi can do it. And i think it has only gtk dependencies not gnome itself.

[McDuff]

ok, i think there's a bit of a misunderstanding, and i'm not sure if i got your last post right.
i didn't want to say that it isn't dirty but only that it works that way, because dpkg shouldnt touch the script and config files unless the dependencies are met. so it aborts on first try and only begins compiling after their installation with apt-get -f install when doing dpkg -i again. at least it spared me a lot of time when trying it on a bare command line install.
looking through man pages of dpkg, apt-get and aptitude i couldn't find a flag that does it.

besides: on my first e17 installation (following the correct method;)) i can't update. it always aborts after checking out chinese po file. is anybody else having this issue?

[Rui Pais]

ok, i think there's a bit of a misunderstanding, and i'm not sure if i got your last post right.
i didn't want to say that it isn't dirty but only that it works that way, because dpkg shouldnt touch the script and config files unless the dependencies are met. so it aborts on first try and only begins compiling after their installation with apt-get -f install when doing dpkg -i again. at least it spared me a lot of time when trying it on a bare command line install.
looking through man pages of dpkg, apt-get and aptitude i couldn't find a flag that does it.
I know that it happens that way :)
My only point was only that is safer to get the dependencies by hand, list it's big but it's available.
You are assuming that apt-get install -f will always work perfectly and that any deb is always well done and lists dependencies correctly... I'm not sure of none of those.

Besides give a command that one knows from the beginning that it will not work, when there are available a list of dependencies, well is kinda of weird ;)

Just another note, gdebi it's available as command-line only, a package named gdebi-core.It depends of python packages only.
Usual gdebi, as both GUI and command line, have as gnome dependencies only gnome-icons and gksu.


besides: on my first e17 installation (following the correct method;)) i can't update. it always aborts after checking out chinese po file. is anybody else having this issue?

po files are known to be problematic in terms of cvs conflicts. Some times --fix-cvs-conflicts flag can't deal with that.
Just remove the po directory that appears on error message and repeat the update should solve the issue.

good luck

[b9anders]

my crude method did seem miss out on libslang2-dev and libxine-dev after checking with rui's dependency list. Weird, since I doublechecked with gdebi that concluded that all dependencies were satisfied. However, I am running it now and ecore compiled fine.

[Rui Pais]

my crude method did seem miss out on libslang2-dev and libxine-dev after checking with rui's dependency list. Weird, since I doublechecked with gdebi that concluded that all dependencies were satisfied. However, I am running it now and ecore compiled fine.

Hi,
well, the "crude" method and gdebi missed those two because they are not dependencies of e17-cvs :)

libslang2-dev i don't know, i don't even have install it... maybe some sidux package add that one to it's dependency list...

linxine-dev i removed from the dependencies list, since the default compiled/installed packages don't need it. (I announce the removal some posts ago... 16 Nov)
It's only needed if, a posteriori, you decide to try some multimedia enlightenment app.
I must have copied the list i gave to you above from an old copy where it stills. Not a problem anyway, if you would not compile any multimedia stuff it will just be ignored.

Glad to know that it was compiling normally.
Rui

[rax_m]

Hi

I just tried to install the deb using the default package manager, and things seemed to be going fine until i got the following:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-> PREPARING FOR PHASE 2...
------------------------------- Easy_e17.sh 1.1.4-a ------------------------------
Developers: Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy
David 'onefang' Seikel
Contributors: Tim 'wtfoo' Zebulla
Daniel G. '_ke' Siegel
Stefan 'slax' Langner
Massimiliano 'Massi' Calamelli
Thomas 'thomasg' Gstaedtner

----------------------------- Current Configuration ----------------------------
Install path: /opt/e17
CVS path: /root/.e17_cvs
CVS server: :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.enlightenment.org:/var/cvs/e
Logs path: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs
OS: Linux (Distribution: debian)


Script action: install
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------- Build phase 2/3 -------------------------------
- lib-compilation and installation
- apps-compilation and installation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


--------------------------- Installing libraries (EFL) -------------------------
- eet ........................ ok
- evas ....................... ok
- ecore ...................... ok
- efreet ..................... ok
- epeg ....................... ok
- embryo ..................... ok
- edje ....................... ok
- epsilon .................... ok
- esmart ..................... ok
- emotion .................... SKIPPED
- engrave .................... ok
- etk ........................ ok
- etk_extra .................. ok
- ewl ........................ ERROR!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------- Last loglines ------------------------------
edje_cc: Wrote 78 bytes ( 0Kb) for "collections/56" collection entry
edje_cc: Wrote 1421 bytes ( 1Kb) for "collections/57" collection entry
edje_cc: Wrote 948 bytes ( 1Kb) for "collections/58" collection entry
Summary:
Wrote 59 collections
Wrote 74 images
Wrote 8 fonts
Wrote 8324 bytes (8Kb) of original source data
Wrote 240 bytes (0Kb) of original source font map
Conservative compression summary:
Wrote total 1111682 bytes (1086Kb) from 1620661 (1583Kb) input data
Output file is 68.6% the size of the input data
Saved 508979 bytes (497Kb)
Raw compression summary:
Wrote total 1111682 bytes (1086Kb) from 3824664 (3735Kb) raw input data
Output file is 29.1% the size of the raw input data
Saved 2712982 bytes (2649Kb)
make[4]: Leaving directory `/root/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes/e17'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl/data'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/ewl'
make: *** [all] Error 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-> Get more informations by checking the log file '/tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/ewl.log'!


Any ideas? BTW there was no log file in the directory specified.

Thanks
Rax

[Rui Pais]

Hi

I just tried to install the deb using the default package manager, and things seemed to be going fine until i got the following:

...


Any ideas? BTW there was no log file in the directory specified.

Thanks
Rax

Hi Rax.

You miss the warning on 1st post:
NOTE: by now ewl have an annoying bug, that make 1st. time compilation abort.
If that happen to you just repeat the above gdebi command. It should finish fine on second time.

Sometimes it requires to repeat the command 1 or 2 times. It's a n annoying bug on cvs code. They are working on it...

hth

[rax_m]

Thanks.. I just read the warning and was coming back to say i'm a dodo..
re-compiling now :)

EDIT: BTW Does it redownload the entire source again ?? Just wondering 'cos I have limited bandwidth available per month.

[Rui Pais]

Thanks.. I just read the warning and was coming back to say i'm a dodo..
re-compiling now :)
Don't worry, theres a small dodo inside each all of us. It's not extinct at all :lol:

EDIT: BTW Does it redownload the entire source again ?? Just wondering 'cos I have limited bandwidth available per month.
No, cvs code it's downloaded only once.
Even if you remove and purge e17-cvs it will be there. A user must manually delete it if don't want it.
Don't forget to use version 0.0-4 (at least) to minimize downloaded code (less 44M).

Hope it finishes ok.
Rui

[galv]

Hi Rax.

You miss the warning on 1st post:


Sometimes it requires to repeat the command 1 or 2 times. It's a n annoying bug on cvs code. They are working on it...

hth
For me it was 2x :)
I'm trying it now, I like it, but I still have a lot to configure :( Any pointers on this?

[McDuff]

po files are known to be problematic in terms of cvs conflicts. Some times --fix-cvs-conflicts flag can't deal with that.
Just remove the po directory that appears on error message and repeat the update should solve the issue.
good luck
thanks. had to remove the whole /po directory.

now for some problems i have with e17. i don't know if there is a solution, but perhaps you or anybody else who's reading it, knows of any.
i have two monitors, one of them connected to a pci graphics adapter. e17 doesn't recognize that there are 2 of them. when maximizing windows it stretches them over both screens. that's quite annoying. the only thing i found til now is "maximize vertically only".
the other issue: i can't set background pictures to being displayed else than streched. in the picture options i can't click on the radio buttons.

[RAV TUX]

Rui Pais, I love your new website here (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/e17/):

Very beautiful minimalistic and easy to understand, I am redownloading the latest Deb and trying the installation again.

Below the Download e17 Deb perhaps you can include a button to install the Oz OS-Desktop?

I love the evolution seen here, helping out in general on the forums, posting a HOWTO, publishing Debs and Websites, to creating the most sophisticated OS soon to be Oz OS.

Rui Pais your an artist in time within enlightenment and Linux.

[RAV TUX]

Rui,

This is very exciting I got the e17 CVS Deb and the Oz OS-desktop Deb working I am now writing you from Oz OS!

here is a screenshot below:

[cheaptrick]

hey i mess with some setting i dont remember what,
but my windows has lost its top bar, the one with the maximise, minimize and close button.
how do u get it back?

[worldwithoutgurus]

Unload the Layout module.

[rax_m]

Thanks guys.. it works for me now..

Just have to figure out how to customise it to something i can use productively. :-/

[steveneddy]

I cannot uninstall the cvs version of this....this thing.

Frustrating - here are the errors:


$ sudo aptitude purge e17-cvs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
e17-cvs{p}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
e17-cvs{p}
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y
Writing extended state information... Done
(Reading database ... 160005 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing e17-cvs ...
dpkg: error processing e17-cvs (--purge):
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
e17-cvs
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)



And here are the errors using apt-get:


Removing e17-cvs ...
dpkg: error processing e17-cvs (--remove):
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
e17-cvs
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


Help - please.

I liked E16 and I wanted the cool wallpaper for something to play with.

What have I done wrong?

[smartboyathome]

I usually get that on a LiveCD when installing a system (the reason is because it locks /usr/bin/dpkg from use) - there may be another package which isn't allowing dpkg to be used.

[steveneddy]

I just really don't want to reinstall just to fix this issue.

[McDuff]

hi rui,
i like your black emerald theme very much. there are just 2 things i'd llike to change and haven't found a way yet (i don't know if it's a problem of the theme or of the settings of e17 or its modules): the pop-ups on forecast and calendar are white on light grey, which is very difficult to read, and on my cheap laptop's screen impossible to read. and in the shelf1 application icons in ibar are faded and i can't change it (compare in screenshot icons in ibox to those in ibar).

[Rui Pais]

Hi guys sorry this late answers, busy day...

For me it was 2x :)
I'm trying it now, I like it, but I still have a lot to configure :( Any pointers on this?

Thanks guys.. it works for me now..

Just have to figure out how to customise it to something i can use productively. :-/


Check the 1st post for suggestion on how-to make launcher, tune menus and startup apps. check get-e for themes and other stuff. try to get some look you really like. Configuration Windows allow to tune a lot :)
Don't forget that you can have any number of shelves as you want and they can be transparent.
Post on doubts.

thanks. had to remove the whole /po directory.

now for some problems i have with e17. i don't know if there is a solution, but perhaps you or anybody else who's reading it, knows of any.
i have two monitors, one of them connected to a pci graphics adapter. e17 doesn't recognize that there are 2 of them. when maximizing windows it stretches them over both screens. that's quite annoying. the only thing i found til now is "maximize vertically only".
the other issue: i can't set background pictures to being displayed else than streched. in the picture options i can't click on the radio buttons.

Dual monitors are always a little hard.
Did you get it work on other DE?
Most of the time the problem it's a xorg.conf and not an e17 specific.
The streach of the background depends on you have xinerama on/off and/or TwinView on/of. If you use nvidia driver try to use nvidia-settings to choose the best options (more easy that edit xorg.conf by hand)

My only issue with 2 monitors it's that the configuration did not preserve correctly from one monitor to 2 monitors. I had to config, from fresh, every time i pass from 1 -> 2 and from 2->1, cause the shelves change position and size in a weird way, instead of being linearly translated resized.
I end up doing a copy of ~/.e one for each situation.


(btw here my olds screenshots (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/) of e17 when i used 2 monitors.)

[smacattack]

just did an install of the .deb on gutsy. ran into the ewl error.. ran the .deb a couple of more times and now it works like a charm! speaking to you now from my new e17 session

thanks Rui Pais!

[Rui Pais]

Rui Pais, I love your new website here (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/e17/):

Very beautiful minimalistic and easy to understand, I am redownloading the latest Deb and trying the installation again.

Below the Download e17 Deb perhaps you can include a button to install the Oz OS-Desktop?

I love the evolution seen here, helping out in general on the forums, posting a HOWTO, publishing Debs and Websites, to creating the most sophisticated OS soon to be Oz OS.

Rui Pais your an artist in time within enlightenment and Linux.

Rui,

This is very exciting I got the e17 CVS Deb and the Oz OS-desktop Deb working I am now writing you from Oz OS!

here is a screenshot below:

Hi RAV TUX,
Thanks (again) for the kind words and the compliment :)

In this case i agree with you, the page it's very beutiful, but... it's not mine. I copied from www.enlightenment.org, because i haven't much more ideas at the time (almost 2 in morning and after update a bunch of links in several posts, i needed to make thinks easier when i update debs and want to get a thread quickly).
That page (the original) it's not much used, i thought it was a pity, so well designed, so i kinda "steal" it, for beauty too, but for identification of the method with the original product, i mean, spread the idea that this way of get e17 is not some twisted thing but an ordinary way of get that beautiful thing.

I am a little worried that my copy could not be much correct. If you think it's that the case, with the link on front page of LinuxCafe, we can make another one or change the look.

btw, about your screenshot (ey, thats an Oz OS! :lol:) i think i must make a version with better compatibility with 4:3 monitors.

Links to my screenshots: 1 (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/e17/oz1.jpg) 2 (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/e17/oz2.jpg) 3 (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/e17/oz3.jpg) 4 (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/e17/oz4.jpg) 5 (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/e17/oz5.jpg)
:)

[Rui Pais]

hey i mess with some setting i dont remember what,
but my windows has lost its top bar, the one with the maximise, minimize and close button.
how do u get it back?

Hi.
That use to be a bug with rendering engines mentionned on a previous page.
Try:
(left click on desktop) Configuration -> Configuration Panel -> Advanced -> Engine
Ensure that you have SOFTWARE selected.

hth

[Rui Pais]

I cannot uninstall the cvs version of this....this thing.

Frustrating - here are the errors:


$ sudo aptitude purge e17-cvs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
e17-cvs{p}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
e17-cvs{p}
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y
Writing extended state information... Done
(Reading database ... 160005 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing e17-cvs ...
dpkg: error processing e17-cvs (--purge):
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
e17-cvs
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)



And here are the errors using apt-get:


Removing e17-cvs ...
dpkg: error processing e17-cvs (--remove):
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
e17-cvs
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


Help - please.

I liked E16 and I wanted the cool wallpaper for something to play with.

What have I done wrong?

Uhmm... on an old version of e17-cvs i made a bug on the posremove script... maybe you got that version.
Try install the last version first over it and after that retry the sudo aptitude purge.

Please post on failure or success so i can track down any possible issues.
Thanks,
Rui


EDIT:
ooops only now i saw your other post.
without reintall, you can try:
edit or make a file /etc/.easy_e17.conf
and make a line:
--skip=eet,evas,ecore,efreet,epeg,embryo,edje,epsilo n,esmart,emotion,engrave,etk,etk_extra,ewl,exml,en hance,e_dbus,e,eclair,evfs,edje_viewer,edje_editor ,elicit,elitaire,emphasis,empower,engycad,ephoto,e stickies,exhibit,expedite,extrackt,enthrall,rage,a larm,bling,calendar,cpu,deskshow,flame,forecasts,l anguage,mail,mem,mixer,moon,net,news,photo,rain,sc reenshot,slideshow,snow,taskbar,tclock,uptime,weat her,winselector,wlan
Then reinstall the latest deb (0.0-4), that will skip all packages on install and then it should allow apt/aptitude to purge.

[Rui Pais]

hi rui,
i like your black emerald theme very much. there are just 2 things i'd llike to change and haven't found a way yet (i don't know if it's a problem of the theme or of the settings of e17 or its modules): the pop-ups on forecast and calendar are white on light grey, which is very difficult to read, and on my cheap laptop's screen impossible to read. and in the shelf1 application icons in ibar are faded and i can't change it (compare in screenshot icons in ibox to those in ibar).

Hi McDuff
Thanks for your comments on EmeralThem.
Yes, i'm still tunning and that is one that i have to change (or get back to default).
I change the original default because i didn't liked the original "outlined/sunken" look, but the plain white it's very annoying (even with good monitors).
I have change it in some places to black (Run window) and other to sunken (Config Window) but theres things to fix till it gets functional and consistent (try my previous BlackEmerald_r or my ctHulhain on one of the first posts to see if you get a look that would satisfy you more.

About the faded effect... It's that way it's suppose to be :(
I made this theme to ibar be used on transparent shelves (an idea i saw on an old elive screenshot...) you can try to change appearance from Inset to Plain (right click on shelf icons and choose Appeareance) to make it look better on a non transparent background.
If you really want icons w full density i can post what you need to change on code and you recompile your own version :)
(flexibility all time)

[RAV TUX]

I am a little worried that my copy could not be much correct. If you think it's that the case, with the link on front page of LinuxCafe, we can make another one or change the look.



You mean your copy of the webpage?

It looks great to me...it will work for now, we can always change it later and incorporate Tux Aubrey's design ideas...if you want.

Do you like the Title for the link on the CafeLinux.org home page (http://www.cafelinux.org/home/)? we could always change it if need be?

[Rui Pais]

just did an install of the .deb on gutsy. ran into the ewl error.. ran the .deb a couple of more times and now it works like a charm! speaking to you now from my new e17 session

thanks Rui Pais!

Glad you get it with minimal troubles :)


(i wish that annoying problem disappeared ... :(, at least its just on fresh installations ... )

Well, hope you enjoy your fresh e17.
Rui

[steveneddy]

Error:


$ sudo apt-get remove e17-cvs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
e17-cvs
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 160005 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing e17-cvs ...
dpkg: error processing e17-cvs (--remove):
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
e17-cvs
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)



This is the same error - this is getting frustrating.

I just want this uninstalled and I'm tired of playing with this.

I'm on Gutsy 64 bit.

[Rui Pais]

You mean your copy of the webpage?

It looks great to me...it will work for now, we can always change it later and incorporate Tux Aubrey's design ideas...if you want.

Do you like the Title for the link on the CafeLinux.org home page (http://www.cafelinux.org/home/)? we could always change it if need be?

Ok we keep it that way for the moment. My first version was only a bunch of lines with links, that make me think why i present a beautifull thing that way?...
i go there to get they version of e logo i liked and end up making a copy...

i tell you what, i will contact them (i'll check who maintains that site) and ask if its ok for them i copy for that purpose and if alright to link from CaféLinux.

About the title on café linux, it's fine, my only request would be changing the comment that appear on mouse hoover (something like "get enlightenment easily" or "e17 can be easy", something like that :) ).
Tanks Jozef
(i can take care of that if you are short in time)
Rui

[NullHead]

Hello I get this when I use sudo gdebi e17-cvs_0.0-4_all.deb jon@jon-laptop:~$ sudo gdebi Desktop/e17-cvs_0.0-4_all.deb
Reading package lists: Done
Reading state information: Done
Reading state information: Done
Reading state information: Done
This package is uninstallable
Conflicts with the installed package 'enlightenment'jon@jon-laptop:~$

Did I mis something? This seems like a very simple problem ... It not installing and all.

I'm using gutsy 32

[Rui Pais]

Error:


$ sudo apt-get remove e17-cvs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
e17-cvs
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 160005 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing e17-cvs ...
dpkg: error processing e17-cvs (--remove):
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
e17-cvs
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)



This is the same error - this is getting frustrating.

I just want this uninstalled and I'm tired of playing with this.

I'm on Gutsy 64 bit.

Ok i will give a look here and try to find what can be wrong.
Mean while, try to remove it from synaptic. Sometimes synaptic deal better with that situations then apt or aptitude.

[Rui Pais]

Hello I get this when I use sudo gdebi e17-cvs_0.0-4_all.deb

Did I mis something? This seems like a very simple problem ... It not installing and all.

I'm using gutsy 32

Hi, thats intentional.

Do you have e16 installed or have you tried another e17 install method on the past?

For the second case you need to remove any other version using apt/synaptic.

For the case you have e16, for the moment, you will need to go for the old manual method (check pdf at bottom of 1st. post)
Sorry for the inconvenience, but write now i just want to prevent that gOS, elive or other person who use prebinaries mix with this method. (I will have to perfect this... i still working on this package)

[Rui Pais]

Error:


$ sudo apt-get remove e17-cvs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
e17-cvs
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 160005 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing e17-cvs ...
dpkg: error processing e17-cvs (--remove):
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
e17-cvs
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)



This is the same error - this is getting frustrating.

I just want this uninstalled and I'm tired of playing with this.

I'm on Gutsy 64 bit.

I can't reproduce this. Here it uninstalls normally.
SInce it says "1 not fully installed or removed." it looks that it's an incorrect install problem, not on uninstall (or even not with e17-cvs, like smartboyathome said a few posts, thats an error that will outputs on every dpkg command when one has a broken package on system).
Try too sudo apt-get --fix-broken

[NullHead]

OK thanks for all you're help ... I had forgotten I had the older repo version installed :roll:

Ill get back to you all after the install proses and let you know if I encountered that bug.

[Rui Pais]

OK thanks for all you're help ... I had forgotten I had the older repo version installed :roll:

Ill get back to you all after the install proses and let you know if I encountered that bug.

No problem.
Note that if you have already all dependencies satisfied (and if it's compiling you have) you can use dpkg instead of gdebi, that offer much more options, namely flags for overpass conflict packages or force installations...

The result is the same, the deb it's just to ensure simplicity on installation (and be able to set e17 a dependency of other packages)

it's late here and i'm too sleepy i check tomorrow if it installed ok.

Good luck, good nigh (if applies).
Rui

[smartboyathome]

Rui, you taking suggestions? I was just thinking that it would be cool if the ~/.easy_e17.conf file had a GUI which allowed you to choose which programs you wanted installed and runs the update script after you are done choosing. Also, does the package update your system automatically, cause I have a suspicion that I have to reinstall or something when I want to update it.

[RAV TUX]

Ok we keep it that way for the moment. My first version was only a bunch of lines with links, that make me think why i present a beautifull thing that way?...
i go there to get they version of e logo i liked and end up making a copy...

i tell you what, i will contact them (i'll check who maintains that site) and ask if its ok for them i copy for that purpose and if alright to link from CaféLinux.

About the title on café linux, it's fine, my only request would be changing the comment that appear on mouse hoover (something like "get enlightenment easily" or "e17 can be easy", something like that :) ).
Tanks Jozef
(i can take care of that if you are short in time)
Rui

Rui the main enlightenment Dev is a member of the CafeLinux.org Team you can just ask him directly if it is OK to use the images. ;)

Carsten (Raster, Rasterman) - Taiwan/Australia - Technical Admin. of CaféLinux.org(Lead Dev. of Enlightenment & OpenMoko)http://www.cafelinux.org/home/

In our Admin/Dev group emails you'll find his email or just look for him on #e freenode.

[Rui Pais]

Rui the main enlightenment Dev is a member of the CafeLinux.org Team you can just ask him directly if it is OK to use the images. ;)

http://www.cafelinux.org/home/

In our Admin/Dev group emails you'll find his email or just look for him on #e freenode.

Yes i have the email from the Welcome message on CaféLinux board :)

I have emailed Rasterman, and sended a copy to you.
Thanks for the suggestion, the site don't specific mention who maintains the site or who to contact, just list e developers.

Thanks Jozef.

[Rui Pais]

Rui, you taking suggestions? I was just thinking that it would be cool if the ~/.easy_e17.conf file had a GUI which allowed you to choose which programs you wanted installed and runs the update script after you are done choosing. Also, does the package update your system automatically, cause I have a suspicion that I have to reinstall or something when I want to update it.

Hi,
yes i always accept suggestion and would like that threads on e17 would be essencialy users discussing, debating and suggest ideas on usability and workarounds for problems.

Before making the deb package, my idea was exactly that (i even had started a first sketch with zenity).
But sooner i realize that would collide with the main ideas that oriented this how-to/method.
My point is just to get a stable environment one should avoid play with available apps and modules. Just stick with a main core, and keep things flexible enough so if a user want to try more he/she can easily go at his/her own risk.

Make such a project would open the door to an endless possible number of combinations that would make it hard to help or support (it's in fact that is the problem of several threads on e17, people are always getting trouble because some app started to be buggy or not updated).

I prefer to take the other road, make installation as simple as possible and/by the reduce the number of things installed on first go. After that it's with e17 user...

If you want to make such an app, i can add a link or a reference as a posterior method for try/tweak an e install, but my main line is to keep at most stability for the first install.

Thanks a lot for the suggestion,
Rui

[steveneddy]

Somehow e17-cvs got stuck in my apt-get. I couldn't get rid of it nor could I install or remove any other packages using this cvs script.

To correct this issue I had to totally reinstall last night.

This should be tested more before you let it go in the forums.

Even telling people that maybe you should install it more than once is a sign that the script or the method for installing said software may need another course of installing than the one offered.

A zipped and compiled on my machine package is easy to delete if there are any problems.

Good luck if this works for you.

[Rui Pais]

Somehow e17-cvs got stuck in my apt-get. I couldn't get rid of it nor could I install or remove any other packages using this cvs script.

To correct this issue I had to totally reinstall last night.

You reinstalled the all distro because of a broken package :shock:
Why? at worst scenario you could have deleted manually /opt/e17, /usr/bineasy_e17.sh and /etc/.easy_e17.conf and replace yours /var/lib/dpkg/available and /var/lib/dpkg/status by the available-old and status-old backups... (a procedure valid for all situations with difficult broken packages)


This should be tested more before you let it go in the forums.

Even telling people that maybe you should install it more than once is a sign that the script or the method for installing said software may need another course of installing than the one offered.

Nope, that has nothing to do neither with deb or the script. It's a bug on ewl code, on some config or makefile. Since it installs after 2 or 3 trials, seams to indicate some circular reference that luckily can be overpassed with repetition.
If you download the code by hand and compile you will get the same output and the same workaround would do.
I test a lot before i post updates. You may note that you are the first and only user till now that post with any serious grip (that you didn't solve because you rush to a reinstall).


A zipped and compiled on my machine package is easy to delete if there are any problems.

Good luck if this works for you.
Couldm't agree more with you on this. But thats exactly what this method do (or the deb package, it's the same thing, you can decompress the deb and check what it does).
It only don't download a zipped version because there is none (or the ones i found are months aged).
It downloads the code, compile in your machine to your arch and with your options and can easily be delete with rm since it installs all in one directory.
The manual method is always available on pdf format, too.

Thanks for your alert anyway,
Rui.

[Rui Pais]

@all

I found a insidious bug on my last update.
After an install (with less download code) it fails to mark to update main packages and libs, and only really updates modules. (Your systems may be now 2 days out-of-date ;) )

I updated the deb (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/e17/). New version do:
- Compile updates when they are available for *all* packages.
- Full compatibility with e16 on repos (thanks NullHead for point me that. You can update now with the deb, please post any issue you found.)
- More checks on distros/repos. It will abort now when install on elive or other distro with elives repos on, as long as that e17 version is installed.

As usual, post on any issue or suggestion.
Thank you all.

[NullHead]

No problem.
Note that if you have already all dependencies satisfied (and if it's compiling you have) you can use dpkg instead of gdebi, that offer much more options, namely flags for overpass conflict packages or force installations...

The result is the same, the deb it's just to ensure simplicity on installation (and be able to set e17 a dependency of other packages)

it's late here and i'm too sleepy i check tomorrow if it installed ok.

Good luck, good nigh (if applies).
Rui

@all

I found a insidious bug on my last update.
After an install (with less download code) it fails to mark to update main packages and libs, and only really updates modules. (Your systems may be now 2 days out-of-date ;) )

I updated the deb (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/e17/). New version do:
- Compile updates when they are available for *all* packages.
- Full compatibility with e16 on repos (thanks NullHead for point me that. You can update now with the deb, please post any issue you found.)
- More checks on distros/repos. It will abort now when install on elive or other distro with elives repos on, as long as that e17 version is installed.

As usual, post on any issue or suggestion.
Thank you all.

I'm glad I could be of assistance.

The bug appeared three times ... I can't remember what it said when the compiling stopped because it was so late I wasn't thinking strait, but all I had to do is repeat the installation process three times and now it works like a charm!

To upgrade e17 all I have to do is download you're .deb and install it over my old one I installed last night?

[Rui Pais]

I'm glad I could be of assistance.

The bug appeared three times ... I can't remember what it said when the compiling stopped because it was so late I wasn't thinking strait, but all I had to do is repeat the installation process three times and now it works like a charm!

To upgrade e17 all I have to do is download you're .deb and install it over my old one I installed last night?

Hi,
the issue i meant was this one (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3832592&postcount=326).
Your installation was prevented by the 'Conflicts' mechanism of apt, where i added enlightenment, among others, to prevent mix of installtions of e17 from several sources.
I'm not used to enlightenment (e16) and had forget that in repos it have the same name so it would collide.
Altough nothing prevents a user of have both installed... so i changed that.
Assuming that the enlightenment you have installed it's the e16 from ubuntu repos, you can safely now install e17-cvs.

The upgrade, yes, it's just download and install the deb package. Since you have e17 already installed it will make just an update of cvs (and the ewl bug should not appear, now that you have it compiled once)

Post on any issue,
Rui

[groggyboy]

Somehow e17-cvs got stuck in my apt-get. I couldn't get rid of it nor could I install or remove any other packages using this cvs script.

i had the same problem. for anyone else with this error, this is what i did to solve it:

1. in the /var/lib/dpkg directory: i replaced "available", "diversions", "statoverride", and "status" with their "-old" counterparts
2.a. i deleted the following files: /var/e17-cvs.0.crash, /var/lib/dpkg/info/e17-cvs.conffiles, /var/lib/dpkg/info/e17-cvs.postinst, /var/lib/dpkg/info/e17-cvs.postrm and /var/lib/dpkg/info/e17-cvs.list
2.b. if you find any other files in /var/lib/dpkg and its subdirectories that contain the name "e17-cvs", delete them as well.
3. i ran "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get install -f"

this should fix things.

to rui pais: i've seen a few other posts from people who had this problem. i know you can't do a whole lot about fixing it, but you may wanna consider adding this info to your original post. i'd hate to see more people take such a drastic step as reinstalling.

[McDuff]

I updated the deb (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/e17/)
the link on your page points to a file named e17-cvs_0.0-4_all.deb instead of e17-cvs_0.0-4.1_all.deb
is it the old deb or was it a naming mistake?

[McDuff]

Dual monitors are always a little hard.
Did you get it work on other DE?
Most of the time the problem it's a xorg.conf and not an e17 specific.
The streach of the background depends on you have xinerama on/off and/or TwinView on/of. If you use nvidia driver try to use nvidia-settings to choose the best options (more easy that edit xorg.conf by hand)

my problem isn't configuration of x. i have a working xinerama setting, and as you can see in my screenshot, it works in e17. it only doesn't recognize that there are two monitors and behaves as if it were one. when maximizing a window it gets maximized over both screens which isn't very useful. the other issue is that i can't change behaviour of backgroundimages. they will always be stretched.

[Rui Pais]

i had the same problem. for anyone else with this error, this is what i did to solve it:

1. in the /var/lib/dpkg directory: i replaced "available", "diversions", "statoverride", and "status" with their "-old" counterparts
2.a. i deleted the following files: /var/e17-cvs.0.crash, /var/lib/dpkg/info/e17-cvs.conffiles, /var/lib/dpkg/info/e17-cvs.postinst, /var/lib/dpkg/info/e17-cvs.postrm and /var/lib/dpkg/info/e17-cvs.list
2.b. if you find any other files in /var/lib/dpkg and its subdirectories that contain the name "e17-cvs", delete them as well.
3. i ran "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get install -f"

this should fix things.

to rui pais: i've seen a few other posts from people who had this problem. i know you can't do a whole lot about fixing it, but you may wanna consider adding this info to your original post. i'd hate to see more people take such a drastic step as reinstalling.

Hi groggyboy,
thanks for your suggestions and tips.

First let me start by saying that those actions (direct action over /var/lib/dpkg) should be that with extreme caution and only when everything else fails!!!

Just a comment on something i believe you are not right. In that case specifically, I *can* do whatever i can for fix it.
I control the making of the deb and it's scripts, so i can solve any issue related with remove/purge actions.

But the point is that i can only do that with output from the user.
If people decide reinstall I can't do nothing about it, and i will never understand what the issue was...
Same goes for your step 2.a of your post. Delete the trouble makers would be of any help either, specially the file e17-cvs.postrm.

Of course problem could be something related with installation it self (aborted dpkg, interrupted process, overrided files...) in that case i will point to the procedure on your post, since, as i mentioned before, its the standard practice to any broken package.

Just a note, on your step 1., the only backups needed (the -old files) are for available and status. The others should not be touched, e17 install don't interact with them.

And before replace the files by the *-old versions, user should check if they wont contain e17-cvs references too or they will get the same problem. In that extreme and highly improbable case, I appreciate people ask what to do (i will not post here cause i don't like much references of playing around with those files).

Thanks for your report on the problem.

Rui

[Rui Pais]

the link on your page points to a file named e17-cvs_0.0-4_all.deb instead of e17-cvs_0.0-4.1_all.deb
is it the old deb or was it a naming mistake?

Thanks, there are 3 links on the page, i forget to update that one (i will reduce the number of links)

Its updated now :)


my problem isn't configuration of x. i have a working xinerama setting, and as you can see in my screenshot, it works in e17. it only doesn't recognize that there are two monitors and behaves as if it were one. when maximizing a window it gets maximized over both screens which isn't very useful. the other issue is that i can't change behaviour of backgroundimages. they will always be stretched.

Well thats, i think (i'm not an expert on xorg, nor twin monitors configs), it's the usual behaviour of xinerama. to get 2 desktops, instead of one stretched, you must turn xinerama off and twinview on.

hth

[neonl]

there was an offtopic message here, eased (sorry) :)

[smartboyathome]

the other issue is that i can't change behaviour of backgroundimages. they will always be stretched.

You can change this behavior in the Configuration > Wallpaper tool. Choose the wallpaper you want (using the picture button), and before you push ok, choose whether you want the picture to stretch, center, tile, fill all possible space while remaining the same shape (within) or to fill the screen with that wallpaper.

[McDuff]

You can change this behavior in the Configuration > Wallpaper tool. Choose the wallpaper you want (using the picture button), and before you push ok, choose whether you want the picture to stretch, center, tile, fill all possible space while remaining the same shape (within) or to fill the screen with that wallpaper.
i have been trying this already but it always says it couldn't import the picture because of a conversion error.

[neonl]

Hi.

Is there anybody noticing that E is annoyingly buggy? It gives that error message of "this is very bad yadda yadda yadda" any time I load or unload a module or change any setting.

[smartboyathome]

Well, it is under heavy development and isn't stable (which is why they haven't released a version of e17 yet).

[smacattack]

as far as i understand it it's still in alpha stages

[RAV TUX]

Hi.

Is there anybody noticing that E is annoyingly buggy? It gives that error message of "this is very bad yadda yadda yadda" any time I load or unload a module or change any setting.Honestly I have never had this I find e17 more stable then any other DE/WM out.

[Rui Pais]

Hi all,

I'm very pleased to announce that we have finally repos available for this!
So i changed the procedure to reflect the new method using our Oz repos (thanks to CaféLinux.org).

I hope you all like it

:)

[Rui Pais]

Hi.

Is there anybody noticing that E is annoyingly buggy? It gives that error message of "this is very bad yadda yadda yadda" any time I load or unload a module or change any setting.

Hi RM,
I've been very busy, only now i can answer you...
That you mention is not normal. Usually means that either you have an non-update module or even a broken one (non api compatible) listed.
try from a console (ctrl+F1) or another DE (no e17 session running):
mv ~/.e/e/config/default ~/.e/e/config/default_BAK
then login and check if add modules solves the issue.


good luck.




Can you change your 1st topic of your thread so it reflects the change to the new repo method.
Thanks for the previous correction (i have to answer there but not much time in hands right now :().
Anyway i hope that nows it settles down that way for a while. From now on all updates are just take care by apt mechanism (easier for me and users).
:)

Rui

[neonl]

Well, it is under heavy development and isn't stable (which is why they haven't released a version of e17 yet).

as far as i understand it it's still in alpha stages

Honestly I have never had this I find e17 more stable then any other DE/WM out.

I know it is under development, in alpha stage but I use it for a while (I'm not an enlightenment n00b :)). What I was saying is that it is abnormally buggy.

Hi RM,
I've been very busy, only now i can answer you...
That you mention is not normal. Usually means that either you have an non-update module or even a broken one (non api compatible) listed.
try from a console (ctrl+F1) or another DE (no e17 session running):
mv ~/.e/e/config/default ~/.e/e/config/default_BAK
then login and check if add modules solves the issue.


good luck.




Can you change your 1st topic of your thread so it reflects the change to the new repo method.
Thanks for the previous correction (i have to answer there but not much time in hands right now :().
Anyway i hope that nows it settles down that way for a while. From now own all updates are just take care by apt mechanism (easier for me and users).
:)

Rui

Thanks Rui, I'll check those stuff you say.

EDIT: can somebody explain me what exactly is Oz OS and what users is it destinate to serve, etc?

[smartboyathome]

OzOS is basically a distro which will use E17 in a different manor by installing E17 from CVS and keeping it up to date through CVS.

[neonl]

One nice trick to control start up apps is to make a script, make it executable and then create a .desktop for it like described above. That way you just run one startup "app" that can launch what ever you want and how you want and editable with any text editor. Here an example (start oofice quick launcher and numlockX):
#!/bin/sh
# <- this symbol makes the line just a comment, remove it to launch the app:
# gnome-settings-daemon &
ooffice -quickstart -nologo -nodefault &
numlockx on &
# gnome-volume-manager &
Controlling the look of Applications is another aspect that it's not obvious.
E17 Apps use controls/widgets from etk, but gtk apps don't know nothing about it. That means they will have the look (kind of ugly) of default gnome.
There are 2 ways of tweak this.
1st way, if you have gnome or xfce installed, is simply run the daemons of those environment, gnome-settings-daemon or xfce-mcs-manager respectively, on startup (like described above). That will set the theme we choose for gnome/xfce for all gtk apps, runs some basic services and start a few things like screensaver and numlockX. Appearence can then be tuned by running gnome-control-center or xfce-setting-show, according the daemon used.

Rui, I always used the "second" method of tweaking the GTK look, but now I wanted to try this one. I don't understand exactly what I have to do. Is it create a text file doingnano ~/.desktopand then writing#!/bin/sh
# <- this symbol makes the line just a comment, remove it to launch the app:
# gnome-settings-daemon &
ooffice -quickstart -nologo -nodefault &
numlockx on &
# gnome-volume-manager &saving and quiting, and then doingsudo chmod +x ~/.desktop?

EDIT: this one is solved, ovious solution I had to create a launcher and then select it to run @ startup.

Regards, Rui

[neonl]

OzOS is basically a distro which will use E17 in a different manor by installing E17 from CVS and keeping it up to date through CVS.

Yeah, I knew that part... I was particular interested in when it's going to be released is it for home usage, will it use any GTK or will it be ETK exclusively...

But thanks anyway.

[smartboyathome]

Just to let everyone know, the shelfs broke today, so don't try going anything "weird" ;)

[Rui Pais]

EDIT: can somebody explain me what exactly is Oz OS and what users is it destinate to serve, etc?

OzOS is basically a distro which will use E17 in a different manor by installing E17 from CVS and keeping it up to date through CVS.

Yeah, I knew that part... I was particular interested in when it's going to be released is it for home usage, will it use any GTK or will it be ETK exclusively...

Yes, Oz OS (http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php/topic,907.0.html) will be centered on e17 compiled from cvs as main desktop and would use its metapackages to manage Ubuntu packages tunning for use with e17.

The main ideas is to be dynamic and flexible.
It will allow compile of e17 from cvs at anytime user wants, it will have a small iso, because it will only contains metapackages (that will access Ubuntu repos or Oz for tunned special ones).
And besides trying to offer a nice balanced set of apps to work with e17 (in 3 "flavors" of different levels of features), will take the use of metapackages a step further by offering at installation sets of "profile" for several typical uses (scientific, graphical/art work, multimedia, education/kids, etc.)
It will have the preferences of the users since installation, and pretends to make they life easier from the very beginning.
So it's target to anyone, except maybe users without Internet (but maybe we end up making extra isos with the debs needed...)


neonl, have you solved the issue of bad shelves with a new set of confs? or it's related with brakeage that smartboyathome mention?


Just to let everyone know, the shelfs broke today, so don't try going anything "weird" ;)

Thanks for the warning!
I will check it for when it will back to normality.
Can you give more details? what happened to shelfs?

Thanks, Rui.

[smartboyathome]

Well, I noticed it went buggy when the shelfs wouldn't autohide properly after an upgrade (had to check and uncheck the allow windows to cover shelf checkbox to get it to autohide, and then when I showed it again, it wouldn't autohide again).

[Rui Pais]

Well, I noticed it went buggy when the shelfs wouldn't autohide properly after an upgrade (had to check and uncheck the allow windows to cover shelf checkbox to get it to autohide, and then when I showed it again, it wouldn't autohide again).

Hi,
I just compile s few minutes ago and all seems normal here.
Try to update to see if yours returns to normality too.

[smartboyathome]

Rui, I can't seem to compile emotion, extrackt, and eclair. I got all the dependancies resolved (and took them off the skip list in ~/.easy_e17.conf), but the script just skips them, even when I put sudo easy_e17.sh --only=emotion,extrackt,eclair. Help please!

[Rui Pais]

Rui, I can't seem to compile emotion, extrackt, and eclair. I got all the dependancies resolved (and took them off the skip list in ~/.easy_e17.conf), but the script just skips them, even when I put sudo easy_e17.sh --only=emotion,extrackt,eclair. Help please!

Hi smartboyathome

easy_e17.sh, from deb version use it's own ,easy_e17.conf at /etc/.easy_e17.conf. You need to change that one.

hth.


@all,
i am testing a new update, that have a workaround for the ewl issue. So users don't need to care with repeating 2 or 3 times the command.

For the more purest that may be worried with taht workaround, thats nothing to do with compilation. Compile always finish fine.
The issue it's at install process. It use the already available edje (edje_cc) to create ewl theme and propagate it to default path.
Thats where it fails... apparently only a certain maximum of stuff can be "imported" and is been exceeded. Later (maybe ewl theme is growing in size) it needs 3 runs to complete install/propagate ewl data to /etc/opt.

I will move too the included theme to an extra optional package.
e17-cvs will have only that, e from cvs.

I'll just go back go my tests now.

Rui

[steveneddy]

You reinstalled the all distro because of a broken package


.

I unfortunately made the mistake of trying this on my production laptop and after not being able to find an answer fairly quickly after much Google-ing and forum searching, I needed to reinstall to make a Monday morning deadline.

I have a fair amount of downtime where I would like to play or look at something different, which is why I was wanting to try e17.

I think that e17 could become useful and I actually like the look and think I might like E-Gnome, but it will have to wait for some time in the future.

Good luck in the future.

[Rui Pais]

Hi all,
i finally update the repos w new version.
It should work better on fresh installs of ewl.

If you are interested in check my themes install too:
sudo apt-get install e17-themes

I will be out of town today, tonight i'll check if anyone had troubles.

Have a good day all
Rui

[smartboyathome]

Rui, just to let you know, it looks like you included an extra theme in that theme package you didn't mean to include. It says the Rusted- and BlackEmerald themes are included, but there is also a Cthulhain_rui-0 theme in it as well (which looks like it isn't finished ;)).

[Rui Pais]

Rui, just to let you know, it looks like you included an extra theme in that theme package you didn't mean to include. It says the Rusted- and BlackEmerald themes are included, but there is also a Cthulhain_rui-0 theme in it as well (which looks like it isn't finished ;)).

Hi,
yes i put it on the package at last minute and didn't update the info about.
That CtHUlhulhain version it's my old theme that I used before Black Theme, see one of the first posts about themes on this thread....
I made a previous merge of Black theme ideas on it but then i preferred to tweak Black's theme to my preferences. :)

Since they are now independent of the e17-cvs and just optional i included too (theres a link somewhere to a zip with those...)

The Rusted version it's a tune for Oz OS that will be based on warm color tones, Australian nature colors, dark reds, greens... so i tried to warm up a bit the black theme:
51848
to see if it will match later the Oz look ;)
Here (http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php/topic,885.msg2529.html#msg2529) some more.


About your question on extra tunning of easy_e17.conf, i think it must have a better approach, next version it will include a way of overridding the default one that won't be deleted by posterior updates,

[smartboyathome]

Awesome! Awaiting the update. :)

[Rui Pais]

Awesome! Awaiting the update. :)

Ok it's done.

Just write a file /etc/easy_e17-custom.conf with your --skip list (and any other option and run apt-get install e17-cvs.

To go back to default, just remove or move away your custom file and run again apt-get install e17-cvs. :)

Just as a side note, as long as you have e17 already install, apt-get install e17-cvs only do an update and will not reinstall all.

Please let me know if you hit any problems.
Rui

[smartboyathome]

Would a symlink from /etc/easy_e17-custom.conf to my ~/.easy_e17.conf file work? Also, would there be a way to have the package do that symlink automatically so people don't have to be root to edit it?

[Rui Pais]

Hi,
Would a symlink from /etc/easy_e17-custom.conf to my ~/.easy_e17.conf file work?

No, i tried here and it needs to be a really file symlinks seems to generate an empty .easy_e17.conf file.

Also, would there be a way to have the package do that symlink automatically so people don't have to be root to edit it?

My first idea was to do exactly that... but the point it's exactly not have a file. A user that want to change default options should create his/her own file (at his/her own's risk).
This should be done only by experimented users!

My first idea was more or less the same that yours, but i want to keep things relatively safe and if that was implemented automatically, with the multitude of .conf files that may be already exist on e17 users of this method... the results would be very hard to predict.

That way, it stills very flexible, but requires user to make it's own file and use root powers. If somethings goes wrong, user knows what the problem is and can delete or check it's own file.

It's not working 100%, i need to implement default conf files in different way, so remove would in fact act if file changes (a deb specification issue that i forget).
It's done but i can't upload right now, because Cafelinux is raising it's security levels and I'm waiting for an extra password for make it visible to outside.
I let you know when it's available.

Rui

[neonl]

Hello.

News: net module is failing compilation. Reinstalling the package to see if it works.

Regards

[neonl]

Hello.

News: net module is failing compilation. Reinstalling the package to see if it works.

Regards

Troubles @ paradise: when Isudo aptitude reinstall e17-cvsit downloads the source again but it skips **ALL** modules, libraries and eapps...:confused::confused:

[Rui Pais]

Troubles @ paradise: when Isudo aptitude reinstall e17-cvsit downloads the source again but it skips **ALL** modules, libraries and eapps...:confused::confused:

Yes, apt/aptitude it's used just to install script and confs.
To "reinstall" do:
sudo easy_e17.sh -i

hth

PS, Thanks for the net module advise i will keep an eye on it (post if you find it compiles again)

[neonl]

Yes, apt/aptitude it's used just to install script and confs.
To "reinstall" do:
sudo easy_e17.sh -i

hth

PS, Thanks for the net module advise i will keep an eye on it (post if you find it compiles again)

Net module won't compile (definitely). How can I skip a single module (I'm too used to the good'ole step-by-step method)?

Hasta

[Rui Pais]

Net module won't compile (definitely). How can I skip a single module (I'm too used to the good'ole step-by-step method)?

Hasta

after install it's just
sudo easy_e17.sh -u --skip=net

under an install see my post #370 (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3871946&postcount=370) for how to tweak default conf :)


hasta la vista
(btw did new oz-desktop run ok?)

[McDuff]

hi rui,
your theme is getting cooler every day it seems.
i noticed that there is a tiny bug in the default theme which you seem to be continuing in your new theme. temperature module doesn't indicate temperature and popups of forecast miss indication of place and day, popup of calendar misses indication of month. they are present in the older themes (screenshot included).
another bug, which however seems to be general to e17, is that e.g. gimp's splash screen doesn't show the custom theme's windowborders but the default theme's ones.

by the way, net compiled fine for me this morning (CET).

greetings
georg

[smartboyathome]

A lot of those are E bugs, not theme bugs. I think the Forcast default theme changed in CVS, though.

Also, the GIMP thing is because no window border is specified for that type of window.

[neonl]

Also, the GIMP thing is because no window border is specified for that type of window.

So there isn't nothing that we (by we I mean the common user) can do to make it better?

[neonl]

Rui, I have one doubt: what can I do to use the PrintScreen key to do screenshots without having the screenshot module inserted into a shelf?

[Rui Pais]

hi rui,
your theme is getting cooler every day it seems.
i noticed that there is a tiny bug in the default theme which you seem to be continuing in your new theme. temperature module doesn't indicate temperature and popups of forecast miss indication of place and day, popup of calendar misses indication of month. they are present in the older themes (screenshot included).
another bug, which however seems to be general to e17, is that e.g. gimp's splash screen doesn't show the custom theme's windowborders but the default theme's ones.

by the way, net compiled fine for me this morning (CET).

greetings
georg

Thanks.
Well, i don't have that... those modules here work normally... Are you using the latest versions of my themes (the one available on e17-themes)?

PS: See my pic next post of an actual BlackEmerald, please.

[Rui Pais]

Hi, RM,
So there isn't nothing that we (by we I mean the common user) can do to make it better?
well that i don't know... i wish an answer to that too... it's a little annoying and ugly (i had an idea that it starts to happen only a month ago or so)

Rui, I have one doubt: what can I do to use the PrintScreen key to do screenshots without having the screenshot module inserted into a shelf?

You can tune that from:
Configuration Panel -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Key Bindings

If it won't list key 'Print', press add key and follow instructions that appear on screen (tip: use Launch: Definied Command for simplicity).

You can set it to use scrot (use scrot -h for options) or another app from other DE. I use gnome screenshot that i like a lot.52180
:)

[neonl]

Well, i don't have that... those modules here work normally... Are you using the latest versions of my themes (the one available on e17-themes)?

I was, and I have the same problem...

[neonl]

Hi, RM,

well that i don't know... i wish an answer to that too... it's a little annoying and ugly (i had an idea that it starts to happen only a month ago or so)



You can tune that from:
Configuration Panel -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Key Bindings

If it won't list key 'Print', press add key and follow instructions that appear on screen (tip: use Launch: Definied Command for simplicity).

You can set it to use scrot (use scrot -h for options) or another app from other DE. I use gnome screenshot that i like a lot.52180
:)

Thank you, issue solved.

[Rui Pais]

Thanks.
Well, i don't have that... those modules here work normally... Are you using the latest versions of my themes (the one available on e17-themes)?

PS: See my pic next post of an actual BlackEmerald, please.


I was, and I have the same problem...

McDuff, neonl,
try from console (CTRL+F1) or from another DE to:
mv ~/.e ~/.e_TMP
and login to e17 and check if a fresh .e profile still have issues...
(you can back to previous profile by mv .e_TMP back to ~/.e again)


PS. module net here compiled ok now, too.

[smartboyathome]

I haven't been having any problems with the net or forcast modules, Rui, just to let you know.

[neonl]

I haven't been having any problems with the net or forcast modules, Rui, just to let you know.

Me neither...

[McDuff]

McDuff, neonl,
try from console (CTRL+F1) or from another DE to:
mv ~/.e ~/.e_TMP
and login to e17 and check if a fresh .e profile still have issues...
(you can back to previous profile by mv .e_TMP back to ~/.e again)


this didn't change anything, i'm still having this issue

[rosslaird]

To change to home directory, it is cd ~
Your home directory is /home/username



Actually, there's an even easier way to change to the home directory:

cd

You don't need the tilde (~).


R.

[Rui Pais]

Originally Posted by Rui Pais
try from console (CTRL+F1) or from another DE to:
Code:

mv ~/.e ~/.e_TMP

and login to e17 and check if a fresh .e profile still have issues...
(you can back to previous profile by mv .e_TMP back to ~/.e again)
this didn't change anything, i'm still having this issue

Hi, sorry the later answer.
Thas weird, this happen with my themes only or with any other?
And with the default.

I have much more ideas on this one other then suggest a
sudo mv /opt/e17 /opt/e17_BKP
and do a full reinstall:
sudo easy_e17.sh -i

let us know if you managed to solve it,
Rui

[froyd]

Re: HOWTO: installation of E17 from CVS (UPDATED)
Quote:
Originally Posted by steveneddy View Post
Error:

Code:

$ sudo apt-get remove e17-cvs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
e17-cvs
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 160005 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing e17-cvs ...
dpkg: error processing e17-cvs (--remove):
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
e17-cvs
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

This is the same error - this is getting frustrating.

I just want this uninstalled and I'm tired of playing with this.

I'm on Gutsy 64 bit.
I can't reproduce this. Here it uninstalls normally.
SInce it says "1 not fully installed or removed." it looks that it's an incorrect install problem, not on uninstall (or even not with e17-cvs, like smartboyathome said a few posts, thats an error that will outputs on every dpkg command when one has a broken package on system).
Try too sudo apt-get --fix-broken



Amigo Rui!

I have been looking everywhere for a solution to my prob with e17-cvs. I tryed to install it but i had an error due to a exml ( i guess ? ) i didnt bother much at the time since i was in a hurry, after i tryed a couple of other things and it failed, now, i was tryin to update my system and i cant because dpkg returns an error. there is something in this thread that is exaclty like mine, This is what it gives me when i do the -f ( fix-broken )

Removing e17-cvs ...
dpkg: error processing e17-cvs (--remove):
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
e17-cvs
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

so i saw ur post above and thought that was a method to manually uninstall the e17, o i did it but i still cant update my system ( regular other updates, synaptic doesnt run anymore ). If you can please help me, i dont know much about linux yet, so general explanations i guess wont help me much. dough, i appreciate any kind of help just because i would like to keep my system updated, and maybe in the future when i understand more of what im doing, i can install e17 :D

Thx a lot, i appreciate :D

Fred

[froyd]

I can't reproduce this. Here it uninstalls normally.
SInce it says "1 not fully installed or removed." it looks that it's an incorrect install problem, not on uninstall (or even not with e17-cvs, like smartboyathome said a few posts, thats an error that will outputs on every dpkg command when one has a broken package on system).
Try too sudo apt-get --fix-broken

See this post, thats exactly what happens with me, but the -fix-broken does not work, neither using synaptics. :(
If you can please help me!

Fred

I Keep seeing videos of e17 and im amazed, if you can help me get it installed it would be awesome too, if not i'd be happy to have my update back :D
Again, i tryed to installed it but ./autogen.sh goes all around then stop saying that exml dependency was not met :(

Thx again
fred

[McDuff]

Hi, sorry the later answer.
no problem
Thas weird, this happen with my themes only or with any other?
And with the default.
it only happens with your new black emerald and rusted emerald themes which you said are based on default theme, your old themes aren't concerned,
I have much more ideas on this one other then suggest a
sudo mv /opt/e17 /opt/e17_BKP
and do a full reinstall:
sudo easy_e17.sh -i
i don't think this would help, as i have currently four different installations running (including an oz-desktop), all showing this behaviour.
but if you still think a full reinstall could solve it, i'll try it this weekend and let you know what happened, just don't have enough time today.
georg

[Rui Pais]

Amigo Rui!

I have been looking everywhere for a solution to my prob with e17-cvs. I tryed to install it but i had an error due to a exml ( i guess ? ) i didnt bother much at the time since i was in a hurry, after i tryed a couple of other things and it failed, now, i was tryin to update my system and i cant because dpkg returns an error. there is something in this thread that is exaclty like mine, This is what it gives me when i do the -f ( fix-broken )

Removing e17-cvs ...
dpkg: error processing e17-cvs (--remove):
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
e17-cvs
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

so i saw ur post above and thought that was a method to manually uninstall the e17, o i did it but i still cant update my system ( regular other updates, synaptic doesnt run anymore ). If you can please help me, i dont know much about linux yet, so general explanations i guess wont help me much. dough, i appreciate any kind of help just because i would like to keep my system updated, and maybe in the future when i understand more of what im doing, i can install e17 :D

Thx a lot, i appreciate :D

Fred

See this post, thats exactly what happens with me, but the -fix-broken does not work, neither using synaptics. :(
If you can please help me!

Fred

I Keep seeing videos of e17 and im amazed, if you can help me get it installed it would be awesome too, if not i'd be happy to have my update back :D
Again, i tryed to installed it but ./autogen.sh goes all around then stop saying that exml dependency was not met :(

Thx again
fred

Olá Fred :)

Sorry, i've been answering this too late...
Your problem can require a dirty trick but maybe it can be solved easily and without such things.
Lets try different ways, starting from the safest, till we get that issue solved.

First, do you download dome deb package or used CaféLinux repos?
Retry to install to see if it finishes now.
If you install from repos just do:
sudo aptitude reinstall e17-cvs
If you use a deb package do:
sudo dpkg -i e17-cvs_number_of_version_i_have.deb
replacing the number_of_version_i_have by the one you have.

EDIT please avoid mix version numbers. try to reinstall the same package that it's broken.

Post how it runs.
Another suggestion, if that fails,
Run synaptic and go 'Custom Filter' -> Broken and if e17-cvs is visible in that section double click on it (some times synaptic solve those issues better)

If that fails i'll tell you what remove manually and what files edit (the dangerous ones...)

Good luck
Rui

[Rui Pais]

no problem

it only happens with your new black emerald and rusted emerald themes which you said are based on default theme, your old themes aren't concerned,
Uhmmm... very strange... i wonder what's the problem.
I will try to find. Don't reinstall then. It's definitly something related to my themes... did it happen on default (bling bling, the gold one) too?


i don't think this would help, as i have currently four different installations running (including an oz-desktop), all showing this behaviour.
but if you still think a full reinstall could solve it, i'll try it this weekend and let you know what happened, just don't have enough time today.
georg
As i said, i don't think it solves but you can try... (since it's based on latest default one maybe it needs some properties from recent code that failled to update or so... sounds very unlikely, but i don't understand too why this don't happen here. I'm confused.)

I'll let you know if i can find the problem.
Rui

[McDuff]

Uhmmm... very strange... i wonder what's the problem.
I will try to find. Don't reinstall then. It's definitly something related to my themes... did it happen on default (bling bling, the gold one) too?


yes, it happens to the gold one too, but not to the older themes.

[Rui Pais]

yes, it happens to the gold one too, but not to the older themes.

lol, it's the first time that default theme it's giving problems that old themes don't have.

Do you mind to try to update from fresh (completely, clean both /opt/e17 and ~/.e17_cvs folders...). But at least seems to be something related to new theme, not mine specific.
Maybe something it's linking against some old or something that fail to update...

If you still have issues i will revert to old Black theme base.


BTW, (@ALL) I'm having problems right now compiling evas... so if you don'0t have time maybe wait some time would be a good idea.
Seems that evas require now an extra dependency and even when satisfied it stills fails here... i'll see if it gets updated or it may need more extra deb packages.

[neonl]

lol, it's the first time that default theme it's giving problems that old themes don't have.

Do you mind to try to update from fresh (completely, clean both /opt/e17 and ~/.e17_cvs folders...). But at least seems to be something related to new theme, not mine specific.
Maybe something it's linking against some old or something that fail to update...

If you still have issues i will revert to old Black theme base.


BTW, (@ALL) I'm having problems right now compiling evas... so if you don'0t have time maybe wait some time would be a good idea.
Seems that evas require now an extra dependency and even when satisfied it stills fails here... i'll see if it gets updated or it may need more extra deb packages.

What about updating? Is it giving problems too, or is it just installing?

[smartboyathome]

I am getting problems with updating, it doesn't seem to complete the downloading of files and retries over and over again.

[Rui Pais]

What about updating? Is it giving problems too, or is it just installing?


Ok, i finally manage to update.
Just need to remove previously evas compilation:
sudo rm -rf ~/.e17_cvs/e17/libs/evas/*
and then a normal:
sudo easy_e17.sh

hth

[Rui Pais]

I am getting problems with updating, it doesn't seem to complete the downloading of files and retries over and over again.

Where it stops?
Usually thats some cvs conflict that can't be solved without user intervention...
you can remove that part of cvs tree.
If the problem it's evas see above post.

good luck

[froyd]

Olá Fred :)

Sorry, i've been answering this too late...
Your problem can require a dirty trick but maybe it can be solved easily and without such things.
Lets try different ways, starting from the safest, till we get that issue solved.

First, do you download dome deb package or used CaféLinux repos?
Retry to install to see if it finishes now.
If you install from repos just do:
sudo aptitude reinstall e17-cvs
If you use a deb package do:
sudo dpkg -i e17-cvs_number_of_version_i_have.deb
replacing the number_of_version_i_have by the one you have.

EDIT please avoid mix version numbers. try to reinstall the same package that it's broken.

Post how it runs.
Another suggestion, if that fails,
Run synaptic and go 'Custom Filter' -> Broken and if e17-cvs is visible in that section double click on it (some times synaptic solve those issues better)

If that fails i'll tell you what remove manually and what files edit (the dangerous ones...)

Good luck
Rui


Vamos denovo amigo!

Ok, here is what goes on:

I dont quite remeber from where i installed cuz i was in a hurry.
researching, i could not find a .deb downloaded in my system that would match a installation file for e17, neither i have repos in my apt source file .... desculpe ...
Well, so aptitude reinstall did not work, remove still does not work, e17 does not show inside broken on synaptic, i did tried to remove from synaptic manager but unsuccessfull too.
Only thing my research found is that the version i have is 0.4-1.0, that i found on synaptic pack manager.
Well, i dont know if i did right but i added the :

## E17 Repository "e17.dunnewind.net"
deb http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu feisty e17
deb-src http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu feisty e17

Repo in my source.list and i did: apt-get install e17
Buttttttttt, it downloaded everything and marked e17-cvs to be uninstalled but again, it failed. So, im so lost ( o brasileiro ta perdido :(

Thx for all your help.
Whut do u think ?

[Rui Pais]

Vamos denovo amigo!

Ok, here is what goes on:

I dont quite remeber from where i installed cuz i was in a hurry.
researching, i could not find a .deb downloaded in my system that would match a installation file for e17, neither i have repos in my apt source file .... desculpe ...
Well, so aptitude reinstall did not work, remove still does not work, e17 does not show inside broken on synaptic, i did tried to remove from synaptic manager but unsuccessfull too.
Only thing my research found is that the version i have is 0.4-1.0, that i found on synaptic pack manager.
Well, i dont know if i did right but i added the :

## E17 Repository "e17.dunnewind.net"
deb http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu feisty e17
deb-src http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu feisty e17

Repo in my source.list and i did: apt-get install e17
Buttttttttt, it downloaded everything and marked e17-cvs to be uninstalled but again, it failed. So, im so lost ( o brasileiro ta perdido :(

Thx for all your help.
Whut do u think ?

Ok vamos com calma então.

The 1st thing is comment/delete that repo from your sources.list.
Don't mix repos of e17. It's the 1st ticked to get deep troubles and misterious bugs. Some repos install libs on /usr/libs oothers on /usr/local/libs, others on /opt/e17/libs soon they start to mix each other with different versions... No. avoid that like the plague!

Are you sure that the broken version is e17-cvs? (note that the name is e17-cvs, not e17 or enlightenment)
If thats the case the version should be 0.0-4.1.
I would advise to download it again from here (http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/linux/e17/e17-cvs_0.0-4.1_all.deb). and run:
sudo dpkg -i e17-cvs_0.0-4.1_all.deb
if code stops at ewl package repeat the above command 2 or 3 times till it continues (that version may not contain a later workaround for that issue).

lets see if that solves.
If not we clean all by hand.

Boa sorte
(Então é(s) brazileiro? Já me tinha perguntado se seria deste ou desse lado do oceano, ou apenas um conhecedor de umas palavas ocasionais ;) )

[froyd]

Sim sim sou brasileiro :D

Well, now that i did whut u said i remember, thats pretty much what i used to install it the first time, i just could not remember where i got that file from, too much google i guess got me kinda lost :D
Anyway, im at school right now and it is not connecting to the cvs servers to update the cvs files , maybe bad internet connection, but ill try at home and see how it goes, so for now BIG THANX FOR U RUi!

p.s.: Muito obrigado mesmo, sim sou brasileiro mas moro no canada e tenho muitos e muitos amigos portugueses, em fato, meu patrao eh um gajo muito porreiro da freguesia de arco de valdevez, no norte, minhoto muito gente boa!

See u next post then !

Fred

[Rui Pais]

Sim sim sou brasileiro :D

Well, now that i did whut u said i remember, thats pretty much what i used to install it the first time, i just could not remember where i got that file from, too much google i guess got me kinda lost :D
Anyway, im at school right now and it is not connecting to the cvs servers to update the cvs files , maybe bad internet connection, but ill try at home and see how it goes, so for now BIG THANX FOR U RUi!

p.s.: Muito obrigado mesmo, sim sou brasileiro mas moro no canada e tenho muitos e muitos amigos portugueses, em fato, meu patrao eh um gajo muito porreiro da freguesia de arco de valdevez, no norte, minhoto muito gente boa!

See u next post then !

Fred


Ok.
Good, because here it's late and i must go to bed.
Sooner i will became more dangerous then helpful ;)

Até ao próximo post então.
Rui

[froyd]

FUNCIONAAAA!!!!

Works and its greatttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!
Im gonna play with it all night long !!
Thank you very much for your help, it deserves all my appreciation not only for the great software but above everything for the support!
Thx!

Fred

Epa! tu es um gajo bakana, epa, tu es um gajo porreiro! ( como diria a musica )

[Rui Pais]

FUNCIONAAAA!!!!

Works and its greatttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!
Im gonna play with it all night long !!
Thank you very much for your help, it deserves all my appreciation not only for the great software but above everything for the support!
Thx!

Fred

Hey Good!!

I'm very happy it's working.
Those problems that sometimes, luckily on rare occasions, appear are the weak part of this method...
I'm glad it's solved and you have time a patience to persists a little (and you even managed to do it without touch anything on dpkg confs!)

You may now give a look at 1st post to see how to update to use our repos (much easier and simple) and get the latest script versions.

Don't forget that to try another method of install e17 (other repos besides cafelinux ones) you should do an aptitude purge to complete remove installed one (not very useful now that you have e isntalled and running ;)).


Epa! tu es um gajo bakana, epa, tu es um gajo porreiro! ( como diria a musica )
Obrigado, não conheço essa mas agradeço à mesma.
Fico contente por ter ajudado e poder contribuir por dar a conhecer o enlightement a um público mais vasto
Diverte-te
:)

Rui

[froyd]

Oi amigo Rui!

So, now that i have a fully installed e17 i might keep it for a bit so i can get used to it first, but thanks. Just to clarify, if i want to follow ur 1st post to get e17 from the repos, by adding the repo to apt source and installing it from there, i have to uninstall ( purge? ) my cvs version and install with the apt right ?
In a near future, if what i said above its correct, ill do that. But im wondering, arent they compatible ? i mean, can i just add the repo and install ( upgrade ) on top of my version so ill get the updated one ?

I might wait a bit before updating it anyway , i mean, more until like bigger changes happen to it. I really just want to play with it now :D
Anyway ... obrigado por tudo!

Abracos

Fred

[Rui Pais]

Oi amigo Rui!

So, now that i have a fully installed e17 i might keep it for a bit so i can get used to it first, but thanks. Just to clarify, if i want to follow ur 1st post to get e17 from the repos, by adding the repo to apt source and installing it from there, i have to uninstall ( purge? ) my cvs version and install with the apt right ?
In a near future, if what i said above its correct, ill do that. But im wondering, arent they compatible ? i mean, can i just add the repo and install ( upgrade ) on top of my version so ill get the updated one ?

I might wait a bit before updating it anyway , i mean, more until like bigger changes happen to it. I really just want to play with it now :D


Olá de novo Fred.

No problem, the repos on the 1st post are fully compatible with your actual installation.
When i say mixing repos, means add other then those repos when e17 is installed by these method.

It will not reinstall all. It will only update the script version and recompile any e17 app, lib or module that meanwhile had any update on cvs server.
It will make updates and any uninstall of e17-cvs much easier :)


Anyway ... obrigado por tudo!

Abracos

Fred

De nada,
Abraços também

Rui

[smartboyathome]

Where it stops?
Usually thats some cvs conflict that can't be solved without user intervention...
you can remove that part of cvs tree.
If the problem it's evas see above post.

good luck

I got it fixed. It apparently was a cvs conflict.

[neonl]

Rui, yesterday you told me how to update without having problems with evas, but now when I update he only does some few apps:----------------------------- Current Configuration ----------------------------
Install path: /opt/e17
CVS path: /home/rui/.e17_cvs
CVS server: :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.enlightenment.org:/var/cvs/e
Logs path: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs

Only: ewl epsilon epeg emotion embryo edje

Script action: update
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it normal?

[Rui Pais]

Rui, yesterday you told me how to update without having problems with evas, but now when I update he only does some few apps:----------------------------- Current Configuration ----------------------------
Install path: /opt/e17
CVS path: /home/rui/.e17_cvs
CVS server: :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.enlightenment.org:/var/cvs/e
Logs path: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs

Only: ewl epsilon epeg emotion embryo edje

Script action: update
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it normal?

Yes it is.
Updates didn't install all e17 always, only the ones that had any changes on cvs since the previous install/update
:)

Rui

[McDuff]

lol, it's the first time that default theme it's giving problems that old themes don't have.

Do you mind to try to update from fresh (completely, clean both /opt/e17 and ~/.e17_cvs folders...). But at least seems to be something related to new theme, not mine specific.
Maybe something it's linking against some old or something that fail to update...

If you still have issues i will revert to old Black theme base.

it seems that yesterdays update solved this issue, so i won't reinstall at the moment and no need to you to revert to old theme base ;)
thanks
georg

[Rui Pais]

it seems that yesterdays update solved this issue, so i won't reinstall at the moment and no need to you to revert to old theme base ;)
thanks
georg

Oops, i had answer an identical question on another thread and almost forget this issue here...

The issue was the format
font: "Sans:style=Bold,Edje-Vera-Bold"
on themes (old font: "Edje-Vera-Bold" worked) and other issues related with fonts (disappearing legend on some modules and conf windows).

The problem was some new way, i think, of dealing with system fonts that required a new dependency libfontconfig1-dev and a recompilation of some e libs against it.
:)

[neonl]

Hi Rui.

I'm having a tweaking doubt. I noticed that in your profile the tclock module almost hasn't got any separation between the first and the second lines. In mine those are very separated. How do you customize that?

Thanks, good night.

[Scruffynerf]

Installing from the repo doesn't work - there are unresolved dependencies (Feisty):
e17-cvs:
Depends: libsqlite3-dev but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libpam0g-dev but it is not going to be installed

When manually installing the packages, the following errors occur:
libsqlite3-dev:
Depends: libsqlite3-0 (=3.3.13-0ubuntu1) but 3.3.13-1alex is to be installed

libpam0g-dev:
Depends: libpam0g (=0.79-4ubuntu2) but 0.79-4ubuntu2uk1 is to be installed

So, is this a problem with the repo, or just me?

[neonl]

Installing from the repo doesn't work - there are unresolved dependencies (Feisty):
e17-cvs:
Depends: libsqlite3-dev but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libpam0g-dev but it is not going to be installed

When manually installing the packages, the following errors occur:
libsqlite3-dev:
Depends: libsqlite3-0 (=3.3.13-0ubuntu1) but 3.3.13-1alex is to be installed

libpam0g-dev:
Depends: libpam0g (=0.79-4ubuntu2) but 0.79-4ubuntu2uk1 is to be installed

So, is this a problem with the repo, or just me?

ĩ think there is a dependency issue due to a version conflict since your not using the last version of Ubuntu.

[Rui Pais]

Hi Rui.

I'm having a tweaking doubt. I noticed that in your profile the tclock module almost hasn't got any separation between the first and the second lines. In mine those are very separated. How do you customize that?

Thanks, good night.

Hi Rui, sorry this late answer (busy all day...)

You must by know find the answer, but i posted to help others on config e17 modules.

It's simple. Right click on desired module and choose 'Able to be resized', then right click again and choose 'Begin Move/Resize this gadget'. Thats all :)

[Rui Pais]

Installing from the repo doesn't work - there are unresolved dependencies (Feisty):
e17-cvs:
Depends: libsqlite3-dev but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libpam0g-dev but it is not going to be installed

When manually installing the packages, the following errors occur:
libsqlite3-dev:
Depends: libsqlite3-0 (=3.3.13-0ubuntu1) but 3.3.13-1alex is to be installed

libpam0g-dev:
Depends: libpam0g (=0.79-4ubuntu2) but 0.79-4ubuntu2uk1 is to be installed

So, is this a problem with the repo, or just me?

Thats strange, it use to install normally on feisty (even on edgy...)
Do you have any special repos enabled that overlap ubuntu ones (automatix or other like that)?

I will check and see if i can reproduce this and let you know.

[Rui Pais]

Hi all.

I finish to upload an e17-cvs new version.
It contains the last morlenxus script version (minor changes), my patchs and this time i leave what you all always wanted ... penguins :)

have a nice sudo apt-get update
:)
Rui

[neonl]

Hi all.

I finish to upload an e17-cvs new version.
It contains the last morlenxus script version (minor changes), my patchs and this time i leave what you all always wanted ... penguins :)

have a nice sudo apt-get update
:)
Rui

Rui, what do you mean with penguins? I'm not using Oz @ the moment so if it is something fully inherent to it I am not able to see it (have to update my VM witch takes a lot).

Abraço, RM

[Rui Pais]

Rui, what do you mean with penguins? I'm not using Oz @ the moment so if it is something fully inherent to it I am not able to see it (have to update my VM witch takes a lot).

Abraço, RM

No, not an Oz "feature", an enlightenment thing.
Check Main Menu > Modules > Appearance.

Just a funny thing :)

[Scruffynerf]

Thats strange, it use to install normally on feisty (even on edgy...)
Do you have any special repos enabled that overlap ubuntu ones (automatix or other like that)?

I will check and see if i can reproduce this and let you know.

Not automatix, however I do have a bunch of custom repo's.


## Moblock Repo
# deb http://moblock-deb.sourceforge.net/debian feisty main
# deb-src http://moblock-deb.sourceforge.net/debian feisty main

## Ubuntu Ultimate Repo
# deb http://repoubuntusoftware.info/ feisty all

## Repo purely for Thunderbird 2
# deb http://ubuntu.iuculano.it feisty thunderbird
# deb-src http://ubuntu.iuculano.it feisty thunderbird

#Innotek repos or VirtualBox
# deb http://www.virtualbox.org/debian feisty non-free

deb http://cafelinux.org/Downloads/oz-os tinwoodman main contrib

To expound:
Moblock is purely for the Moblock IP filter.
Virtualbox is purely for the Virtualbox virtualisation software. I find it easier to use than VMWare, which often segfaults on my system.
Cafelinux is yours
Ultimate is the repo for the customised distribution formerly known as Ubuntu Ultimate, a project led by the fellow here known as TheeMan. I've used it exclusively for games.

I have also in the past used medibuntu for a few things, however for some reason that I forget, I've removed from my current sources list.

Again, I have also used Trevhino's repo, mainly from an attempt to get compiz working (it failed)

[Scruffynerf]

I doubt that you will be able to reproduce it.

Delving into the dependencies (no wonder they called it hell), the "libsqlite3-0" package is not removable - removing it will remove 142+ applications, including such gems as gconf.... The "libpam0g" package does the same.

So it looks like a problem with my particular installation / combination of software packages.

[Rui Pais]

I doubt that you will be able to reproduce it.

Delving into the dependencies (no wonder they called it hell), the "libsqlite3-0" package is not removable - removing it will remove 142+ applications, including such gems as gconf.... The "libpam0g" package does the same.

So it looks like a problem with my particular installation / combination of software packages.

well the repos on your previous post are commented, so they shouldn't be in use. But you may have used and one of them could changed those packages... maybe if you enable them again they have a limpam0-dev compatible... dont know.

You can try to use synaptic or dpkg to force to go to a specific version and after that try to solve eventual breakage of dependent package... but thats a situation with unpredictable results. I would not advise to do that.

libpam may be avoided (it will only prevent you lock screen from e17)
try to follow the manual procedure, described here (http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=881.0;attach=2449) and remove libpam0-dev from the list of aptitude install on step 1 of the how-to.

Post on any doubt.
Rui

[RAV TUX]

...penguins :)

have a nice sudo apt-get update
:)
Ruipenguins!!!....awesome where?

running sudo apt-get update now! ;)

[Rui Pais]

they are all over the place :tongue:

52955 52956

:lol:

[Scruffynerf]

well the repos on your previous post are commented, so they shouldn't be in use. But you may have used and one of them could changed those packages... maybe if you enable them again they have a limpam0-dev compatible... dont know.

You can try to use synaptic or dpkg to force to go to a specific version and after that try to solve eventual breakage of dependent package... but thats a situation with unpredictable results. I would not advise to do that.

libpam may be avoided (it will only prevent you lock screen from e17)
try to follow the manual procedure, described here (http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=881.0;attach=2449) and remove libpam0-dev from the list of aptitude install on step 1 of the how-to.

Post on any doubt.
Rui

Cheers. It seems to have worked.

I've also downgraded from my odd versions back to the standard repo ones, so it may be interesting to see what broke. Personally, I think that the odd version came from when I was messing around with Compiz, trying to get it to work.

[FishFilet]

I am having the same problem as this user.

Great tutorial! E-17 is working properly on a new Gutsy install except for changing the screen resolution. The pop-up response is:

"Your X Display Server is missing support for Xrander (X Resize and Rotate) extension. You cannot change the screen resolutions without the support of this extension. It could also be possible that at the time ecore was built, there was no Xrandr support detected."

Of course, Xrandr is installed and confirmed by apt as the latest version. Just wondering if there's a quick fix? Thanks.

I also used a work around posted by the same user.

Thanks for the response, Rui Pais, but I was able to change the resolution perfectly in Gnome, which is why it was a bit confusing. Edit: Using a workaround. Edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf and removed the resolutions higher than 1024x768 (after backing up the original xorg.conf). That allows me to boot into and run at my desired resolution, but of course does not really answer what went wrong.

Another problem that I am having is that I cannot find all of the options I had in gnome some of which are very important to me. For example I connect through wireless to the internet I dont know where to set this up. Currently I have to log in to a gnome session which auto connects me. Then I log out and log into E17 and I can get on the internet.

This is just one example of things another one would be VPN which i use frequently but at any rate can anyone point me in the right direction?

[FishFilet]

I was wondering if I need to do something like this to solve my problem.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=howto+enlightenment+replace+metacity

I am a linux supper noob so I dont want to do this without asking!

[RRS]

I installed a command line system from the 7.10 alternate cd. After updating I installed xorg and xdm.

I then added the CafeLinux repo and installed E17 cvs following the latest instructions on page 1 of the thread. Received a successful install message.

Next step was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Followed by sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start Output indicated xdm started but system stayed in console, so I entered startx Xserver failed to "connect", said it couldn't find the "font path"

I tried reinstalling e17 a couple times, removing xdm and installing gdm, and another xorg reconfigure, always with the same result.

I've searched thru the thread and several other places both in and out of the forums but my limited knowledge hasn't yielded any solutions to me so I decided to start over and ask for help.

I've also read thru the pdf of the original instructions and didn't spot anything helpful to my situation.

I now have a clean command line install with only xorg and xdm added and no configuration done yet.

It does appear that most people posting in this thread already had a complete GUI system installed and simply added E17 to it so that could be where I'm missing a step.

I realize my problem may not be related directly to E17 so if someone could direct me to something I missed in another thread, etc. I'd appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

[Rui Pais]

I am having the same problem as this user.

I also used a work around posted by the same user.


Another problem that I am having is that I cannot find all of the options I had in gnome some of which are very important to me. For example I connect through wireless to the internet I dont know where to set this up. Currently I have to log in to a gnome session which auto connects me. Then I log out and log into E17 and I can get on the internet.

This is just one example of things another one would be VPN which i use frequently but at any rate can anyone point me in the right direction?

I was wondering if I need to do something like this to solve my problem.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=howto+enlightenment+replace+metacity

I am a linux supper noob so I dont want to do this without asking!

Hi,
about the xorgconf, thats not a workaround. It's a fix of a bad config. Regrettably graphic cards/monitor detection and xorg auto configuration still have a lot of issues.

I'm sorry to say that about your wireless issues i can't help much. I don't have wireless so i never get those problems or have any way of test. There is an e17 specific app for that (not on main cvs) i will search for the name and tell you. And i will try to get help from other people to give you some tips.
If someone here on this thread have some tips on this,please don't be shy...

On VPN, can you tell me how or what do you on gnome to get VPN? (i never used VPN)

About the link you point, it's a very old how-to... if you have experience with both environment you can use it and adapted for any new stuff, other wise i would advise to avoid it (EDIT: AND if you decide by give a try YOU MUST DELETE ALL FROM THIS METHOD. Don't mix this with pre-compiled stuff from other repos or you get troubles). If you want a mix of those environment i would advise you to give an eye to Geubuntu, that may offer more or less the same, updated, and with less trouble.
But i don't know if that would solve your specific issues...

[Rui Pais]

I installed a command line system from the 7.10 alternate cd. After updating I installed xorg and xdm.

I then added the CafeLinux repo and installed E17 cvs following the latest instructions on page 1 of the thread. Received a successful install message.

Next step was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Followed by sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start Output indicated xdm started but system stayed in console, so I entered startx Xserver failed to "connect", said it couldn't find the "font path"

I tried reinstalling e17 a couple times, removing xdm and installing gdm, and another xorg reconfigure, always with the same result.

I've searched thru the thread and several other places both in and out of the forums but my limited knowledge hasn't yielded any solutions to me so I decided to start over and ask for help.

I've also read thru the pdf of the original instructions and didn't spot anything helpful to my situation.

I now have a clean command line install with only xorg and xdm added and no configuration done yet.

It does appear that most people posting in this thread already had a complete GUI system installed and simply added E17 to it so that could be where I'm missing a step.

I realize my problem may not be related directly to E17 so if someone could direct me to something I missed in another thread, etc. I'd appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

Hi RRS,
yes all this method presumes that you have an Login Manager (like GDM/KDM) i'm not much experienced with plain XDM.
You may need to edit some conf file... but first try to create a file:
~/.xsession
with one line:
exec /opt/e17/bin/enlightenment_start
And then link it with:
ln -s ~/.xsession ~/.xinitrc
That should your startx work with e17.

Post your results since they may be useful for other users too.
Thanks,
Rui

[Rui Pais]

Cheers. It seems to have worked.

I've also downgraded from my odd versions back to the standard repo ones, so it may be interesting to see what broke. Personally, I think that the odd version came from when I was messing around with Compiz, trying to get it to work.

Glad it's working! :)
Hope you got all dependencies solved by now. I would suspect more of Ultimate repo, but didn't check myself (browse the repos on-line should give the answer...)


@all
I updated the repos last night.
Last version 0.0-4.4.2 highlights:
- Much better PATH dealing
- Remove of old hacks relate with PATH (should have done this a long time ago...)
- Avoid aborted installation on minimal installs where some paths related with default sessions may be missing.
- Blocks installation on Geubuntu installs (Geubuntu will block this method, too. Cooperation it's good!)
- User can install only scripts and confs, skipping compilation by previously creating an empty file ''~/_skip_easy_e17_install"
- e17-themes is lighter now.
- I made an e17-themes-extra for my tunes ctHulhain and eventually others that may be made on Oz context)

[Rui Pais]

...

Another problem that I am having is that I cannot find all of the options I had in gnome some of which are very important to me. For example I connect through wireless to the internet I dont know where to set this up. Currently I have to log in to a gnome session which auto connects me. Then I log out and log into E17 and I can get on the internet.

This is just one example of things another one would be VPN which i use frequently but at any rate can anyone point me in the right direction?

Hi again,
about wireless.
The enlightenment app that deals with wireless to e17 it's exalt.
It's not in the main cvs. It seems to be a little buggy, and i've been told that it has issues with preserving passwords fro connections...

Another app that people seems to prefer it's the generic Wicd.
Check here for this subject and a deb package:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473331

About exalt, if you want to try it, you can get it here:
http://watchwolf.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=exalt.
In order to compile you need to add to your .bashrc:
export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/e17/lib/pkgconfig
to compile (check order, it's important).
I made packages compatible with e17-cvs, but exalt module always crash when i tried to access configurations...

[smartboyathome]

By the way Rui, I use WICD with E17 and found it integrates nicely. Just add the net module, right click it > configuration, and set Launch Application On Double-Click to /opt/wicd/gui.py. This will pull WICD's GUI up for you. I would say that WICD should be packaged with Oz as well. ;)

[Rui Pais]

By the way Rui, I use WICD with E17 and found it integrates nicely. Just add the net module, right click it > configuration, and set Launch Application On Double-Click to /opt/wicd/gui.py. This will pull WICD's GUI up for you. I would say that WICD should be packaged with Oz as well. ;)

Thanks a lot for the tip on wicd configuration.

Yes, wicd seems a good option to Oz too.
I played a little with exalt and seems unstable too much instable for now (and packaging it's boring, demanding 5 debs and one must be tunes for the starting daemon, defaults only offer a gentoo version...)

Rui

[FishFilet]

Thanks for the info I will give another utility a try.

Is it that I should be using other apps instead of gnome apps and utilities. For instance I notice the user manager that adds and removes users in gnome is no where to be found as well. Is this because it is part of gnome and I am no longer using gnome. Thus I should find another app that is for the same thing?

Another thing that is bugging me is that many icons dont have any ... well icons i guess. It is just the name of the item and no Icon. How can I fix this?

I have heard that E alone is not enough to have. I guess because it is a WM and not a DE. But it seems to me that you should be able to do just about anything. Am I wrong here? Will I be missing some special functionality that I will need if I am not using a DE (Gnome)?

I would Like to have a bar at the botom of the screen with my programs in it that functions like the apple OS bar where when I hover over the icons they get bigger and mover around and such. I saw this on an E demo on you tube I think How can I get that effect.

and last but not least, Thank You so much for all the help to everyone here at the forums. It is the best forum I have ever been on. The people are very helpful and response times fast. I could not leave Vista without you all!

[smartboyathome]

Thanks for the info I will give another utility a try.

Is it that I should be using other apps instead of gnome apps and utilities. For instance I notice the user manager that adds and removes users in gnome is no where to be found as well. Is this because it is part of gnome and I am no longer using gnome. Thus I should find another app that is for the same thing?

Another thing that is bugging me is that many icons dont have any ... well icons i guess. It is just the name of the item and no Icon. How can I fix this?

I have heard that E alone is not enough to have. I guess because it is a WM and not a DE. But it seems to me that you should be able to do just about anything. Am I wrong here? Will I be missing some special functionality that I will need if I am not using a DE (Gnome)?

I would Like to have a bar at the botom of the screen with my programs in it that functions like the apple OS bar where when I hover over the icons they get bigger and mover around and such. I saw this on an E demo on you tube I think How can I get that effect.

and last but not least, Thank You so much for all the help to everyone here at the forums. It is the best forum I have ever been on. The people are very helpful and response times fast. I could not leave Vista without you all!

You need to add the Applications using the Configuration Panel. Or you can be lazy like me and just type in the name in the Run module to get it. :lolflag:

[RRS]

Thanks, I give it a try and let you know. May not have time for a day or two though.

I'll also see if I can find anything in a couple XDM sites I've got bookmarked somewhere (I think on another computer). Can't believe I didn't think about that yesterday.....

I'll try your suggestions first though and post back with the results.

Thanks again for all the work you've been doing on this project.

[Rui Pais]

Thanks for the info I will give another utility a try.

Is it that I should be using other apps instead of gnome apps and utilities. For instance I notice the user manager that adds and removes users in gnome is no where to be found as well. Is this because it is part of gnome and I am no longer using gnome. Thus I should find another app that is for the same thing?

Well as long as you like or are used to an app, i see no reson for stop using it (i'm completly against certain positions for pure DEs from fundamentalist users, and in relation to e17 even more since most of it's apps are very young, incomplete and buggy).
If apps don't have an entry on menus you can make one like smartboyathome said before. See mt 1st post too for some tips on create app launchers/menu entries. (The one you mention it's called users-admin).


Another thing that is bugging me is that many icons dont have any ... well icons i guess. It is just the name of the item and no Icon. How can I fix this?
Same thing as above. Run the app from menu right click on default icon and choose Edit icon set what you like.


I have heard that E alone is not enough to have. I guess because it is a WM and not a DE. But it seems to me that you should be able to do just about anything. Am I wrong here? Will I be missing some special functionality that I will need if I am not using a DE (Gnome)?
No e it's not a pure WM nor a full DE (something in between), but the reason that it don't have all functionality it's because no one care yet to make it or the ones available are too buggy to be used (i cut a lot of them with this method because of that).
But again nothing should prevent you from using tools from independent sources or from other DEs. This is Linux and all it's GPL or at least free of use. :)


I would Like to have a bar at the botom of the screen with my programs in it that functions like the apple OS bar where when I hover over the icons they get bigger and mover around and such. I saw this on an E demo on you tube I think How can I get that effect.

That it's get with ibar module.
The specific animation you refer it's theme related. It's implemented on some thmes. Intall the ones on www.get-e.org and see the one that gives what you like.
You can use the Advanced properties of theme selector (Configuration panel > Appearence > Themes > Advanced) that allow to set a theme for all e17 and another one for module/ibar
(or any other e17 element, e17 it's highly flexible :))


and last but not least, Thank You so much for all the help to everyone here at the forums. It is the best forum I have ever been on. The people are very helpful and response times fast. I could not leave Vista without you all!

No problem :)
I'm glad more people are starting to use enlightenment and the myth of an hard or unstable environment it's slowly fade away.

Have fun
Rui

[Rui Pais]

Thanks, I give it a try and let you know. May not have time for a day or two though.

I'll also see if I can find anything in a couple XDM sites I've got bookmarked somewhere (I think on another computer). Can't believe I didn't think about that yesterday.....

I'll try your suggestions first though and post back with the results.

Thanks again for all the work you've been doing on this project.

Thanks RRS.
Please post your results, it may help other users.

[smartboyathome]

By the way Rui, iBar only shows minimized programs, not all programs.

[FishFilet]

If apps don't have an entry on menus you can make one like smartboyathome said before. See mt 1st post too for some tips on create app launchers/menu entries. (The one you mention it's called users-admin).

How can I know what the name of a particular app is, or more importantly the command to launch it in the terminal. To a windows user it seems you all just know, lol. But is there a way for us mere mortals to know. In windows I would have done something like launch the program and then the task manager and see what process is actualy running. Is there a similar method?

[smartboyathome]

You can launch it in the run box (type in the name of the program and you should get it), and then open the run box again and this time push the up arrow and you should get a list of recently used commands (with the most recent, i.e. your program, at the bottom).

[Rui Pais]

By the way Rui, iBar only shows minimized programs, not all programs.

Hi smartboyathome,
you mean ibox? Yes thats what a call a nice feature (:lol:) it's just the way e do it. There is no plan to implement Gnome features or way of doing things...
For me, i always hated the gey panels wasting space of gnome/kde/windows that get full of strange boxs replicating the name of open windows (that i'm already look at...)
I prefer a clean look. I always set ibox transparent on a shelf and that way it only became "apparent" when i minimize something. I use a big pager (pager are so cool and discrete on e17) where apps appeara represented by it's size and icon that i used to change apps/desktop...

It's all just a question of habit and use the best way what each environment has to offer, imho.

[Rui Pais]

How can I know what the name of a particular app is, or more importantly the command to launch it in the terminal. To a windows user it seems you all just know, lol. But is there a way for us mere mortals to know. In windows I would have done something like launch the program and then the task manager and see what process is actualy running. Is there a similar method?

Another way to know the name of binaries (besides the one smartboyathome explained) it's either check how the launcher on gnome menus implemented or open synaptic and check what each app have saved on /usr/bin/ using the 'Installed Files' tab of properties.


BTW, yet another way of tunning icons on menus (on a previous of yours) it's:
Configuration Panel > Appearance > Icon Themes

It allow to change menu icons according to icon themes (gtk) you may have installed. Some are more complete then others (or may fit e look better)

Rui

[RRS]

Was busier then I thought I'd be this last week but finally got a chance to try your suggestions from post 434.

Unfortunately creating the file and link made no difference so I started rechecking my notes and steps again.

Since the xsession errors made no mention of e17 or xdm I decided to reinstall xorg, even though the originall installation and configuration steps had appeared to go ok.

I'd originally used:sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810to avoid all the uneeded drivers.

To reinstall I used:sudo aptitude install xorg
Expecting to see all the missing drivers along with whatever else may not have been installed the first time, I was surprised that only a few additional items were installed. Among them was the xfonts packages so that apparently was my problem from the beginning!

This time "startx" brought up a fully functional Enlightenment desktop :)
Still gotta install some programs though to turn "functional" into "usefull" :)

A reboot brought up the XDM login screen which to then took me straight to the desktop so that all works as well too now.

I don't know if the xsession file and link you suggested are still needed but I plan to leave them just in case.

BTW, the reason I installed this way was to re-invigorate an old Dell.
900MH Celeron, 192 MB of ram, and a 10G hard drive.

Thanks again.

[TeaSwigger]

Pardon my newbie-ness to things cvs, but I tried installing via the repository (via Synaptic) and the install script hangs dpkg - for over a day now - on the following little error:
cvs [update aborted]: connect to anoncvs.enlightenment.org(140.211.167.167):2401 failed: Connection timed out.
:(

How can I either fix this or get it to quit attempting the install and undo whatever's been done so I can make dpgk happy again?

[smartboyathome]

Do you, perhaps, have any type of firewall (moblock/peerguardian would count here)?

[TeaSwigger]

Do you, perhaps, have any type of firewall (moblock/peerguardian would count here)?

Thank you for the reply. No moblock/peerguardian or the like here, and I'm just using the default iptables. But if it's probably connectivity I'll pour over the router settings / reset it in case and report back...

[TeaSwigger]

@ smartboy@home: for reasons unknown to me, I reset the router and it worked... either that or there was a problem server side and it was fixed since I last tried... anyways I'm now clued in as to associating that with connectivity ;) Going ahead and giving this e17 a try.

This does raise a question. If I may ask, how may someone stop an install in progress without dpkg "hanging up" on that job? Using this e17 installation for example. If dpkg is still waiting in this script for e17 from cvs, how could you "kill" it and move on to install something else instead? Say you use dial up and your connection bites the dust half way in, the job just isn't going to finish, so you'd rather cancel this transfer and installation of e17 and get xfce from a xubuntu CD.

[smartboyathome]

can you sudo apt-get purge e17-cvs it?

[Rui Pais]

Pardon my newbie-ness to things cvs, but I tried installing via the repository (via Synaptic) and the install script hangs dpkg - for over a day now - on the following little error:
cvs [update aborted]: connect to anoncvs.enlightenment.org(140.211.167.167):2401 failed: Connection timed out.
:(

How can I either fix this or get it to quit attempting the install and undo whatever's been done so I can make dpgk happy again?

Hi,
that seems indeed a cvs server failure. :(


This does raise a question. If I may ask, how may someone stop an install in progress without dpkg "hanging up" on that job? Using this e17 installation for example. If dpkg is still waiting in this script for e17 from cvs, how could you "kill" it and move on to install something else instead? Say you use dial up and your connection bites the dust half way in, the job just isn't going to finish, so you'd rather cancel this transfer and installation of e17 and get xfce from a xubuntu CD.

Sorry about that dpkg issue.In order to get your dpkg back to order you need to fish e17-cvs first. You can remove it later if you don't like it.
When dpkg hangs on a package generally it needs to finish that installation in order to go back to normality.
You can try to do an sudo apt-get install -f and see if that fix it, but i doubt it that it will work if script was already running...

You can make it faster by doing:
touch _skip_easy_e17_install
before:
apt-get install e17_cvs

After finish dpkg correctly you can then finish the installation;
sudo easy_e17.sh -i
or remove/clean all you your don't want it:
sudo easy_e17.sh -c -c -c
sudo apt-get remove --purge e17-cvs

[pugnacity]

i need some kind of dock for such apps like rhythmbox or pidgin...ibox is not really suitable and docker won't work...any suggestions?

[smartboyathome]

Well, what you are looking for is a system tray, and unfortunately there isn't anything good. You could try trayer though (in the repos).

[devosion]

Im getting this error from cafelinux.org

Err http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/main Packages
404 Not Found
Err http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/contrib Packages
404 Not Found
Fetched 7B in 21s (0B/s)
Failed to fetch http://cafelinux.org/Download/oz-os/dists/tinwoodman/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
Failed to fetch http://cafelinux.org/Download/oz-os/dists/tinwoodman/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found


Kinda strange that it downloads other packages but it cant find these ones.

[smartboyathome]

The server is going slow for me. IDK why.

[AdNZL]

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting libcurl4-openssl-dev instead of libcurl3-dev
Package xlibs-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package xlibs-dev has no installation candidate

I keep getting this error messege after I the first step. Any idea's whats happening?

[smartboyathome]

Are you installing this on Ubuntu 6.06? If so, I think the repo might be incompatible due to variations in packages with each release of Ubuntu. (I get no such error on my system).

[Rui Pais]

The server is going slow for me. IDK why.

Im getting this error from cafelinux.org



Kinda strange that it downloads other packages but it cant find these ones.

Hi,
Happy new 2008 to all!

Yes we are get problems with server speed at Cafelinux.
I hope soon things go back to normality... meanwhile if erros like those happen, better try again some time later (a few minutes can be enough).
Sorry for the inconvenience. :(

[Rui Pais]

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting libcurl4-openssl-dev instead of libcurl3-dev
Package xlibs-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package xlibs-dev has no installation candidate

I keep getting this error messege after I the first step. Any idea's whats happening?

Are you installing this on Ubuntu 6.06? If so, I think the repo might be incompatible due to variations in packages with each release of Ubuntu. (I get no such error on my system).

Thats right, thats an Ubuntu versions problem (old transitional packages...) :(
I will try to make a new version more flexible, that work with pre-gutsy versions.
Thanks for call my attention to it.

[disturbedite]

first of all, thanks for posting this HOWTO.

i am trying to use this repo with (kubuntu) hardy but there appears to be a problem... (cuz of hardy)

apparently a bunch of packages (such as the kde4 related ones) depended on libungif4-dev. but a lot of packages (again specifically the kde4 packages i'm aware of) are changing dependencies away from libungif4-dev to libgif4. but not all of the packages have been updated yet to reflect this change. so i get:
e17-cvs:
Depends: libungif4-dev but it is not going to be installedi don't suppose there is any way to force e17-cvs to depend on libgif4-dev instead of libungif4-dev?

[Rui Pais]

first of all, thanks for posting this HOWTO.

i am trying to use this repo with (kubuntu) hardy but there appears to be a problem... (cuz of hardy)

apparently a bunch of packages (such as the kde4 related ones) depended on libungif4-dev. but a lot of packages (again specifically the kde4 packages i'm aware of) are changing dependencies away from libungif4-dev to libgif4. but not all of the packages have been updated yet to reflect this change. so i get:
e17-cvs:
Depends: libungif4-dev but it is not going to be installedi don't suppose there is any way to force e17-cvs to depend on libgif4-dev instead of libungif4-dev?

Hi.
Sorry i didn't get time yet to try Hardy...

I will try to see if that can be done, doing libgif4-dev and libungif4-dev according to need version...

Meanwhile, my only suggestion would be doing the old manual way (this deb it's just a wrapper for that anyway...)
Just make the replace you want on 1st step of the procedure.

Check the pdf version here, for a detailed how-to:
http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php/topic,881.0.html

Hope that help.

[disturbedite]

Hi.
Sorry i didn't get time yet to try Hardy...

I will try to see if that can be done, doing libgif4-dev and libungif4-dev according to need version...

Meanwhile, my only suggestion would be doing the old manual way (this deb it's just a wrapper for that anyway...)
Just make the replace you want on 1st step of the procedure.

Check the pdf version here, for a detailed how-to:
http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php/topic,881.0.html

Hope that help.
thanks for the response & for being willing to get it working on hardy.

i've been itching to try this wm since this morning when a friend told me about it. it is rather appealing cuz i have a 4 year old pc with minor hardware upgrades, so its outdated...
any way, i wanna try it but i want to use the latest version not the version in the official ubuntu repo. (0.16.x).

[disturbedite]

sorry for the double post, but i have an update/clarification about the issue on hardy...
apparently libgif4 & libungif4 conflict. as i said, a lot of kde4 packages used to depend on libungif4 but they are transitioning the kde4 packages (for kubuntu at least) to depend on libgif4 instead...
so that means having packages installed that depend on libgif4 will prevent one from being able to install e17 cuz of e17's dependency on libungif4-dev.

[NullHead]

Rui Pais

OK I'm wondering about what this means. I understand the code, but it's what you said after that confused me.

sudo sh -c "echo 'deb http://cafelinux.org/Downloads/oz-os tinwoodman main contrib' >> /etc/apt/sources.list"

Please if you have any link to this method, please update it as soon as possible. Many Thanks. are you looking for another method of putting the URL into the sources.list? because you could always use this. echo 'deb http://cafelinux.org/Downloads/oz-os tinwoodman main contrib' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list

Also I can test you're repository and .deb in Debian Testing Lenny if you would like.

[Rui Pais]

Rui Pais

OK I'm wondering about what this means. I understand the code, but it's what you said after that confused me. are you looking for another method of putting the URL into the sources.list? because you could always use this. echo 'deb http://cafelinux.org/Downloads/oz-os tinwoodman main contrib' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list

Also I can test you're repository and .deb in Debian Testing Lenny if you would like.

I NullHead.
The confusion from my quote arose because this method had evolved to the present one in 3 different stages. A manual method, a single deb package and now, a repository.
My reference to "other method" was the references for the deb packages that required that i keep update a bunch of links on several forums every time i updated... and some people who link to deb sooner had they links obsolete too...

Of course your suggestion for add the cafelinux repos to source.list works too, but my point was not get a different method to do that (just want to add some tip for users who prefer not to do the edit by hand).


Thanks, for the offer of test on Lenny. I'm always willing to see if how it works on other distros.
If you try it, please let me know how it goes.

Thanks Rui

[Rui Pais]

sorry for the double post, but i have an update/clarification about the issue on hardy...
apparently libgif4 & libungif4 conflict. as i said, a lot of kde4 packages used to depend on libungif4 but they are transitioning the kde4 packages (for kubuntu at least) to depend on libgif4 instead...
so that means having packages installed that depend on libgif4 will prevent one from being able to install e17 cuz of e17's dependency on libungif4-dev.

Hi again.
Sorry i don't have time now to test hardy (i wish to do it cause i have an issue with gutsy that don't get solved... and maybe hardy would behave better), i'm very busy righ now, creating the iso for OzOS and testing (a long and fastidious process that take a lot of space too...)

I have checked and problem seems to be that there is (yet?) a libgif4-dev file and i'm not sure if libgif4 containd the headers files, the part needed for e17 compilation...

Have you already tried a manual installation, following this instructions (http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=881.0;attach=2449) , and replacing on 1st step the instruction by:
sudo aptitude install build-essential cvs libtool libltdl3-dev automake1.9 autotools-dev libpopt-dev libcurl3-dev libx11-dev x11proto-xext-dev libbz2-dev libid3tag0-dev libpng12-dev libtiff4-dev libgif4 libjpeg62-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev bison flex gettext libimlib2-dev libxml2-dev libxcursor-dev libgtk1.2-dev autoconf pkg-config libpng3-dev libxkbfile-dev libsqlite3-dev giblib-dev libxmu-dev libxdamage-dev libxcomposite-dev libtag1-dev libtagc0-dev giblib-dev libasound2-dev libxslt-dev libpam0g-dev libdbus-1-dev
?

[whayong]

Hello everyone! I've got a quick questions regarding the install/upgrade process.

During the install (and I tried upgrading) some libraries were "skipped." In fact quite a few, for example, eet, evas, ecore, and so on. What does that mean? WHy was it skipped? Is it needed? Anyway I can install them? The list of "skipped" libraries is quite long. Is this the reason why I cannot use some apps or configure some stuff like entrance themes, etc?

[Rui Pais]

Hello everyone! I've got a quick questions regarding the install/upgrade process.

During the install (and I tried upgrading) some libraries were "skipped." In fact quite a few, for example, eet, evas, ecore, and so on. What does that mean? WHy was it skipped? Is it needed? Anyway I can install them? The list of "skipped" libraries is quite long. Is this the reason why I cannot use some apps or configure some stuff like entrance themes, etc?

Hi,
yes the install process it's suppose to skip several apps, but not the ones you mention (eet, ecore...)
Did it skip them when install or only when update?
Can you login to enlightenment?

The reason why there are stuff skipped it's because they are not much stable or maintainned anymore.
But you can still install them anyway... Check the 1st post for instructions on how to do it...

[whayong]

Yes, I was able to log into enlightenment. Infact, I've been using it for about a day now. I can't remember now if those apps/libs I mentioned were skipped during the initial install. I can tell you though that I don't have any of the enlightenment apps (picture viewer, media player, etc...). A few more questions:

Has anyone got suspend/hibernate working on a laptop when the lid is closed? It works when clicking the suspend/hibernate options but not when closing the lid. I guess it's something I could live with.

Does anyone have any suggestions for firefox themes? I guess it makes sense that GNOME apps aren't affected by the selected e17 theme.

How does one change the entrance theme? There doesn't seem to be an option under configuration.

WICD works well with this by the way.

EDIT: I just re read the original post regarding gtk themes at startup. This solved the whole firefox thing. Is it possible to get suspend when laptop lid is closed the same way? I'll give it a shot.

[Rui Pais]

Yes, I was able to log into enlightenment. Infact, I've been using it for about a day now. I can't remember now if those apps/libs I mentioned were skipped during the initial install. I can tell you though that I don't have any of the enlightenment apps (picture viewer, media player, etc...).

Ah, ok. Thats the normal behavior. The purpose here it's to get a stable core that can be used with other software more mature and that users may be more used (from other DEs).
But you can get those apps (the ones you refer are quite stable theses days, i think) by editing the file /etc/.easy_e17.conf and remove the names of the wanted apps from --skip list. After that just do:
sudo easy_e17.sh --only=<eapp_name>
or for a safer option:
sudo easy_e17.sh -i
to make sure any lib and app it's compiled again.


A few more questions:

Has anyone got suspend/hibernate working on a laptop when the lid is closed? It works when clicking the suspend/hibernate options but not when closing the lid. I guess it's something I could live with.

Does anyone have any suggestions for firefox themes? I guess it makes sense that GNOME apps aren't affected by the selected e17 theme.

How does one change the entrance theme? There doesn't seem to be an option under configuration.

WICD works well with this by the way.

EDIT: I just re read the original post regarding gtk themes at startup. This solved the whole firefox thing. Is it possible to get suspend when laptop lid is closed the same way? I'll give it a shot.

About the laptop lid i don't know any e17 method/application specific to do that (but maybe exist...) I use gnome-power-manager launched at enlightenment startup and gnome-power-preferences to tune behavior. Maybe it sounds a little overwhelming but it don't have too much gnome dependencies and works quite well.

About entrance... thats one of the set of buggy and sometimes keep long periods broken and not update. It miss some basic functionality like XDMCP and it's hard to configure under Ubuntu (i only made it work once and after a reboot it spots mysteriously... and read that people at geubuntu are getting problems to make net work when entrance is used...)
But you can try it with the same process above and check how its development goes.

Thanks for give e17-cvs a try :)
Rui.

[whayong]

Thanks a lot for the help and thanks for the "how to." Without it I would still be using gnome. I did manage to get the lid working once "gnome-control-center" was running. So I guess what I would really need is gnome-power-manager. I will do some more testing to confirm weather or not gnome-control-center at startup will do.

[Rui Pais]

Thanks a lot for the help and thanks for the "how to." Without it I would still be using gnome. I did manage to get the lid working once "gnome-control-center" was running. So I guess what I would really need is gnome-power-manager. I will do some more testing to confirm weather or not gnome-control-center at startup will do.

No problem, glad i can help :)

gnome-control-center, when runs from other DE other then gnome, launches several services from gnome, among them gnome-power-manager, gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-screensaver (if installed).
Set any of those to run by hand make a better fine tunning of startup and lighter resources.

Personally, i always run gnome-power-manager and gnome-settings-daemon, this late solves the gtk look without any need of a .gtkrc-2.0 file and with the extras better tools for tweak gtk look and automatic numlockx on at startup :)

[whayong]

No problem, glad i can help :)

gnome-control-center, when runs from other DE other then gnome, launches several services from gnome, among them gnome-power-manager, gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-screensaver (if installed).
Set any of those to run by hand make a better fine tunning of startup and lighter resources.

Personally, i always run gnome-power-manager and gnome-settings-daemon, this late solves the gtk look without any need of a .gtkrc-2.0 file and with the extras better tools for tweak gtk look and automatic numlockx on at startup :)

That makes sense. I'll definitely mess around with it and let you know how it goes.

[airtonix]

i had the same problem. for anyone else with this error, this is what i did to solve it:

1. in the /var/lib/dpkg directory: i replaced "available", "diversions", "statoverride", and "status" with their "-old" counterparts
2.a. i deleted the following files: /var/e17-cvs.0.crash, /var/lib/dpkg/info/e17-cvs.conffiles, /var/lib/dpkg/info/e17-cvs.postinst, /var/lib/dpkg/info/e17-cvs.postrm and /var/lib/dpkg/info/e17-cvs.list
2.b. if you find any other files in /var/lib/dpkg and its subdirectories that contain the name "e17-cvs", delete them as well.
3. i ran "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get install -f"

this should fix things.


Had to cancel cvs download due :

* script not allowing me to defeer process to later time
* download from cvs server hammered our bandwidth.
* flatemates was running an instance(Hmek) in WoW , cvs download gave her 2000ms ping.

so i killled the cvs download. and this method allowed me to continue using apt-get before this debacle.

[Rui Pais]

Had to cancel cvs download due :

* script not allowing me to defeer process to later time
* download from cvs server hammered our bandwidth.
* flatemates was running an instance(Hmek) in WoW , cvs download gave her 2000ms ping.

so i killled the cvs download. and this method allowed me to continue using apt-get before this debacle.

Hi,
sorry to hear about your problems.
Of course downloading code requires some bandwidth... but not that much (it's just a few Megs).
Maybe you hit a moment when server had problems or was under some kind of problems...


What i want to advise/reinforce:
** DO NOT USE THOSE COMMANDS UNLESS AS LAST RESOURCE **

Messing with those file can seriously broken your OS!


If that kind of problems appears, user should 1st. try to finish installation at a later time and after that remove with aptitude purge if not want to use it, or simply prevent the code donload/compilation do a:
touch _skip_easy_e17_install
and then redo the apt-get command.

[disturbedite]

Hi again.
Sorry i don't have time now to test hardy (i wish to do it cause i have an issue with gutsy that don't get solved... and maybe hardy would behave better), i'm very busy righ now, creating the iso for OzOS and testing (a long and fastidious process that take a lot of space too...)

I have checked and problem seems to be that there is (yet?) a libgif4-dev file and i'm not sure if libgif4 containd the headers files, the part needed for e17 compilation...

to clarify, yes there is a libgif4-dev. no, i haven't tried that. i'm not really feeling like compiling it myself. call me lazy if you want ;).

you're going to have to resolve this in about 4 months when hardy comes out cuz of the gif4 library conflict...

[Rui Pais]

to clarify, yes there is a libgif4-dev. no, i haven't tried that. i'm not really feeling like compiling it myself. call me lazy if you want ;).

you're going to have to resolve this in about 4 months when hardy comes out cuz of the gif4 library conflict...

There is a libgif4-dev? I can't find it listed (http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libgif4-dev&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hardy&release=all).

I will try to check on a hardy liveCD.

[disturbedite]

There is a libgif4-dev? I can't find it listed (http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libgif4-dev&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hardy&release=all).

I will try to check on a hardy liveCD.
sorry, its libgif-dev not libgif4-dev...

[ner0tic]

the repo is down is this temporary?

[Rui Pais]

sorry, its libgif-dev not libgif4-dev...

Do you mind to test this version:
55980

keep in mind i didn't try to compile at hardy (used a live cd) just installed and get no dependency error...

the repo is down is this temporary?

Yes CafeLinux services was taken offline due to a problem that it's still under work. I hope things turn ok soon... sorry for the inconvenience.

Meanwhile this temp repo can be used instead:
deb http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/oz-os scarecrow main contrib
deb http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/oz-os tinwoodman main contrib
# deb http://cafelinux.org/Downloads/oz-os scarecrow main contrib
# deb http://cafelinux.org/Downloads/oz-os tinwoodman main contrib

Thanks.

[disturbedite]

Do you mind to test this version:
55980

it works fine.

i have to say, i am impressed with enlightenment, i like it.

thanks Rui Pais!

[Rui Pais]

it works fine.

i have to say, i am impressed with enlightenment, i like it.

thanks Rui Pais!

I'm glad it works! :)

Thanks for give it a shot and testing.

I will try to merge changes on main e17-cvs package so it will run on the most Ubuntu version as possible.

Rui

[smartboyathome]

Rui, just to let you know, Bang has been revived. I am going to be testing it. See this message (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=478861F4.90503%40gurumeditat ion.it&forum_name=enlightenment-devel).

EDIT: Another thing: The script doesn't install emprint, so the screenshot module doesn't work. I added it to the script.

[Rui Pais]

Rui, just to let you know, Bang has been revived. I am going to be testing it. See this message (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=478861F4.90503%40gurumeditat ion.it&forum_name=enlightenment-devel).

EDIT: Another thing: The script doesn't install emprint, so the screenshot module doesn't work. I added it to the script.

Hi, thanks to let me know.

Please give some feed back on Bang testing.

I usually don't use screenshot so i didn't realize theres a missing one...
I will add it on next update.

Thanks

[Rui Pais]

Hi,
i have updated the e17-cvs package and e17-themes.

It's important that e17-cvs users update to this new version.
** DO NOT TRY TO UNINSTALL FIRST! **
This solves the issue that creates broken (non-uninstallable) e17-cvs when a remove was required.

The packages now includes by default emprint and screenshot and removes scrot as a needed dependency.

I remove too the workaround for old ewl problem, since here it compiles fine at first (lets hope problem it's solved for good).

To install under hardy with a kde installation you may need to first install manually libgif-dev (did'nt test myself)


e17-theme includes updates for pager to work with latest versions of e17.

Don't forget that we are still without Cafelinux repos so you must use the alternative repos.

Thanks.

[smartboyathome]

Thanks Rui.

[neonl]

Hello folks.

I'm having a huge and annoying bug: the pager module isn't working as it was suppose to do, I mean the virtual desktop work and everything but it doesn't show the windows which are opened in the VDs and, of course, moving them.

I have the last Rui Pais' update and the CVS updated too. Does anyone have this issue?

Can somebody give me a hand with it?

[neonl]

Hello folks.

I'm having a huge and annoying bug: the pager module isn't working as it was suppose to do, I mean the virtual desktop work and everything but it doesn't show the windows which are opened in the VDs and, of course, moving them.

I have the last Rui Pais' update and the CVS updated too. Does anyone have this issue?

Can somebody give me a hand with it?

Don't ask me WTF happened because I can't tell, but the truth is that it is working again.

Thanks anyhow :D

[smartboyathome]

It is a theme bug. I am tryign to figure this out over the IRC with the E17 devs. Will report back when I figure out what is wrong.

[kelvin spratt]

Just realised I've got the same problem.

[Rui Pais]

Hi guys, it's just a theme bug... they happen a lot...

for those who use e17-themes a simple update solves the problem.

for those that make they themes (brave souls) just decompress default edj (blingbling) and check differences of default_pager.edc

Sometimes keep thems update it's an hard job...

[RSLxH]

Didin't last long, these repos.

rs@lxh:~$ sudo apt-get update
Get: 1 http://ftp.es.debian.org stable Release.gpg [378B]
Hit http://ftp.es.debian.org stable Release
Ign http://ftp.es.debian.org stable/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.es.debian.org stable/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman Release.gpg
Ign http://ftp.es.debian.org stable/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.es.debian.org stable/main Packages
Hit http://ftp.es.debian.org stable/contrib Packages
Hit http://ftp.es.debian.org stable/non-free Packages
Hit http://ftp.es.debian.org stable/main Packages
Ign http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman Release
Ign http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/main Packages
Ign http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/contrib Packages
Err http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/main Packages
404 Not Found
Err http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/contrib Packages
404 Not Found
Fetched 1B in 2s (0B/s)
Failed to fetch http://cafelinux.org/Downloads/oz-os/dists/tinwoodman/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
Failed to fetch http://cafelinux.org/Downloads/oz-os/dists/tinwoodman/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
Reading package lists... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/cafelinux.org_Downloads_oz-os_dists_tinwoodman_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/cafelinux.org_Downloads_oz-os_dists_tinwoodman_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
rs@lxh:~$



Then:

rs@lxh:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install e17-cvs
Get: 1 http://ftp.es.debian.org stable Release.gpg [378B]
Hit http://ftp.es.debian.org stable Release
Ign http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman Release.gpg
Ign http://ftp.es.debian.org stable/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.es.debian.org stable/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.es.debian.org stable/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.es.debian.org stable/main Packages
Ign http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman Release
Hit http://ftp.es.debian.org stable/contrib Packages
Hit http://ftp.es.debian.org stable/non-free Packages
Ign http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/main Packages
Ign http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/contrib Packages
Err http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/main Packages
404 Not Found
Err http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/contrib Packages
404 Not Found
Fetched 1B in 2s (0B/s)
Failed to fetch http://cafelinux.org/Downloads/oz-os/dists/tinwoodman/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
Failed to fetch http://cafelinux.org/Downloads/oz-os/dists/tinwoodman/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
Reading package lists... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/cafelinux.org_Downloads_oz-os_dists_tinwoodman_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://cafelinux.org tinwoodman/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/cafelinux.org_Downloads_oz-os_dists_tinwoodman_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
rs@lxh:~$

[Rui Pais]

Didin't last long, these repos.

we had a temporarily problem at CafeLinux. It's solved but the Downloads section it's still not available, hope today anytime it will came back... meantime you can use this ones:
deb http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/oz-os scarecrow main contrib
deb http://ruialeixopais.planetaclix.pt/oz-os tinwoodman main contrib
# deb http://cafelinux.org/Downloads/oz-os scarecrow main contrib
# deb http://cafelinux.org/Downloads/oz-os tinwoodman main contrib

[RSLxH]

Wow! That was a rapid reply and solution, thanks a lot Ru Pais ;)

[Rui Pais]

Wow! That was a rapid reply and solution, thanks a lot Ru Pais ;)

No problem :)

Sorry all for the inconvenience.
I update the 1st. post to make it more easy to users to see it.

Have fun.

[RSLxH]

No problem :)

Sorry all for the inconvenience.
I update the 1st. post to make it more easy to users to see it.
No inconvenience at all, it's your repo afterall ;)

Have fun.
Oh yes..... I have just installed it on Dreamlinux (already got it on Ubuntu and Debian).

Great stuff, fine work men !!

PS: Just gave you a hit with the "thanky" button :D