want to try suse

[jacob01]

yea ever since i saw it i wanted to try it i dont know why, the inter face the lizard dunno? but yea i would like to try it it also seems that there are alot of programs that are packaged in rpm.

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i really dont know suse just seems interesting to me.

also i want to try fedora core 6-7

hmm

yea closer to when gutsy comes out i will start over and try suse and fedora core but then eventually i will come back to gutsy yea

something about suse
also i have been hearing alot about gentoo so i want to try that also so yea dont know why but i know i want to install is


compare ubuntu to suse
is suse more user friendly
more apps
most likely ubuntu has better support

it doesnt matter to me i like the command line but other than the fact that it may be slow but its the best way to go

[danny joe ritchie]

I think you will like Suse if you try it, Suse is probably the nicest distro that I have tried so far,I was not impressed by Fedora or CentOS(just my opinion)! good luck!

[cmat]

openSUSe is really good. Detected most my hardware but it being and RPM based system will really was the only reason I'm not using it right now.

[b0ng0]

If by SuSe you mean openSuSe then I can vouch for it, we use it at work. Very nice looking, plenty of apps and reasonably stable (although have had a few things lock up on me).

However in my experiences on my home computer, X would not start and came up with lots of errors and no one on the forums replied to my post (another drawback compared to ubuntu's great community).

But I would say give it a whirl, but in the end in my opinion the top 5 distros on www.distrowatch.com are all very similar to each other. If you want a slightly different (albiet steeper learning curve) to Ubuntu then try some of the weird and wonderful distros that are out there.

[Erunno]

I'd probably wait until the first release candidates of 10.3 hit the internet as some much needed improvements have been made since 10.2.

[angryfirelord]

openSuSE doesn't have as many packages as Ubuntu does, but all the commonly used ones are there and it has a nice polished look to it.

The only issue I have with it is its speed. It's very slow at booting and loading applications. Fortunately, 10.3 is getting a well needed overhaul.

[SOULRiDER]

Suse is good, INO its as friendly as Ubuntu, but its a bit slowe and package management (at least in 10.1, thats what i tried) is a pain in the ***.

[Steve1961]

OpenSuse and Fedora are both great distros. Try both and see what you think. My only qualms with either are to do with package management. Fedora's yum is slow compared to apt-get and updates come thick and fast. As for yast, it's almost glacial in speed compared to Ubuntu, but you can get round that by using the smart package manager instead. Other than that, it's about personal preference and teh community - which is very good for Fedora, and Suse forums are getting there.

[nhydra]

If you are looking for nice and user friendly distro then take a look at Mandriva and Fedora. Fedora is suitable for users that want the newest software for everything. But Fedore is very stable and secure too. Mandriva is very user friendly. They both are RPM based distros.
I do not suggest you to try OpenSUSE. It has some strange license agreements with Microsoft.

A friend of mine was warned by email because he used OpenSUSE 10.2. So, this guy just left OpenSUSE and installed Ubuntu on his desktop.

[angryfirelord]

I do not suggest you to try OpenSUSE. It has some strange license agreements with Microsoft.

A friend of mine was warned by email because he used OpenSUSE 10.2. So, this guy just left OpenSUSE and installed Ubuntu on his desktop.
The deal is between Novell and Microsoft, not really involving openSuSE, so I can assure your friend that he won't get Vista DRM on his suse machine. :) Plus, the source is open, so even if MS tried to stuff something malicious in there, it would be spotted.

[WishingWell]

openSuSE doesn't have as many packages as Ubuntu does, but all the commonly used ones are there and it has a nice polished look to it.

The only issue I have with it is its speed. It's very slow at booting and loading applications. Fortunately, 10.3 is getting a well needed overhaul.

Actually, since Universe and Multiverse are unofficial repositories for Ubuntu, SuSE has a lot more packages and if you are going into unofficial package repos there are quite a few for SuSE so it's about equal.

SuSE does lack the parenting that Ubuntu gets from snipping it's packages from Debian though, i don't know if that is even a worthwhile reason to use Debian over SuSE though since repos such as packman provide very stable packages.

I guess it all depends on what you need and what the 'puter is meant to do.

My 10.2 boots at about the same speed as Feisty, the Slack installation boots in under 30 seconds while both 10.2 and Feisty takes well over a minute to boot.

[WishingWell]

The deal is between Novell and Microsoft, not really involving openSuSE, so I can assure your friend that he won't get Vista DRM on his suse machine. :) Plus, the source is open, so even if MS tried to stuff something malicious in there, it would be spotted.

DRM has been in the kernel for the last four revisions, all it does on Vista and in Linux is to allow you to view DRM encoded material, it doesn't do anything but that on Vista and not on Linux either.

So yeah, you'll have DRM support on any newer distro, if you really dislike being able to view DRM encoded material, how about you just don't buy it?

[cmat]

Try it but I doubt you'll like it. Drivers video drivers are a tough install and RPMs are nasty.

[WishingWell]

Try it but I doubt you'll like it. Drivers video drivers are a tough install and RPMs are nasty.

Give me one technical advantage that .deb's have over .rpm's.

I see this crap spewed constantly and it always comes from people who don't even know the difference, the truth is that from a technical standpoint the RPM system is superior, it was just lacking in program management, .deb's dont do dependency checking, apt does that, .rpm's don't do it either, you need something like YAST, YUM or SMART to do that.

Video drivers are as easily installed in SuSE as they are in Ubuntu and getting things like hibernation and sleep mode working with SuSE is a lot easier than it is on Ubuntu.

But i'll await your reply to my question and maybe i just missed something for ten years or so?

[angryfirelord]

I see this crap spewed constantly and it always comes from people who don't even know the difference, the truth is that from a technical standpoint the RPM system is superior, it was just lacking in program management, .deb's dont do dependency checking, apt does that, .rpm's don't do it either, you need something like YAST, YUM or SMART to do that.
Sure.

*goes to fix corrupt rpm database*

Kidding. Anyway, debs and rpms pretty much do the same thing: install packages, so using either one won't give you issues.

[Incense]

Give it a shot, maybe you'll like it. I think that openSUSE has more of a professional feel over Ubuntu. The OS as a whole feels really polished, and well thought out. The included packages are stable and offer a great out of the box experience. While Ubuntu just burns the image on your hard drive, openSUSE gives you the freedom to customize your install as little or as much as you want. Just make sure you uncheck the Zenworks box when you select software. Yast feels a bit slow at times, but it's a powerful tool and would be a welcome addition to any distro. Just make a home partition, and go crazy installing distros until you find one that works for you. Freedom of choice is is one of the great things about Linux. :guitar:

[toupeiro]

My .02

If you want to try it, then definately try it. You will get as many people telling you to try it as you will telling you its a waste of time.

I've been running SuSe off and on since 5.2, long before Novell got their hooks into them. It has been, and is a good distribution. For my personal needs, its a bit bloated. Ubuntu's distribution is much cleaner to me. For business, I think it gives RHEL a damn good run for its money and if it had the vendor certs RedHat did, I think more companies would use it over RedHat.

Unfortunately, it has M$ stink on it now so weigh that in however you wish.

You lose nothing by trying it, even if you don't like it and uninstall it, you've gotten some hands on experience with it. That is always worth something.

Good Luck!