Installation mod

[drvista]

BEFORE INSTALL
i think ubuntu installation should be modified to met
0. HARDWARE COMPITABILITY CHECK
test hardware and give a detailed log about what might crashes or issues like that because even if live cd worked may be not all hardware not detected like USB cam or certain capabilty of hardware
1. ask the type of the computer>>
a. workstation
so no power managment and pc work at max power use
don't install battary applets
b. laptop
enable power saving by default and ask about it
make option in system admin to do it later
*and each of them to be asked weither to enable or dissable test repositories so if it's used in productive environment no pre final releases sould be donwloaded
*check box to enable or disable multithreading at boot
*faster boot
* gusty don't preview audio in nautilus even after install vorbis-tools and mopg123 so please that need fix
*choose the installed components to make it small install
AFTER INSTALL
1. auto delete .deb from /var after a period that is customisable to save disk space

[smartboyathome]

This would clutter up the install too much. The installer is supposed to be as simple as possible, and I don't see enabling the extra repos as a high priority in the installer (after all, a person who has never used ubuntu before probably will not know what that is). Also, I don't see why you should be allowed to put in and take out what you want. Isn't that what debian is for???

[drvista]

Thank you for your reply smartboyathome but i think ubuntu is easy more than enough and geeks needs more advanced options so i just want an advanced tab or a mode may be not be default but will be available for geeks only :)

[slayerboy]

Thank you for your reply smartboyathome but i think ubuntu is easy more than enough and geeks needs more advanced options so i just want an advanced tab or a mode may be not be default but will be available for geeks only :)

Ok, I'm not trying to sound evil here, so don't take this the wrong way.....

....but Ubuntu is "geared" towards new users and "converting" windows users over to Linux. The simple the better. If you want to be a geek, there are thousands of other distros you can try, and I'm sure one of them will have everything you're looking for and more.

Some examples of distros (not all inclusive by any means and subject to interpretation and only my opinion) and their categories:

New User "Friendly"
Ubuntu
PCLinuxOS
Linspire
LinuxMint
Mepis
Suse

Geek "Friendly"
Debian
Mandriva
Fedora
VectorLinux
Wolvix

Hardcore "Friendly"
Gentoo
Slackware
Linux From Scratch


One thing all the New User "Friendly" distros have in common is for the most part they are pretty simple to install. Particularly Ubuntu and PCLOS. None of the others (with a few exceptions in this category) have advanced options for "geeks". All the development work is geared towards getting a distro that is extremly easy to install and use, with minimum confusion. Have advanced options really can confuse people into wondering what they should be looking for and what they are missing. Truth is, all these distros come with pretty much everything ready to go out of the box for the average new user.

The problem for us "geeks' using a distro geared towards new users is that there is a lot of tweaking we have to do to get things just right the way we want them and need them. But that's true with just about any distro you choose regardless of category above. This is why I picked Ubuntu as my distro of choice right now. It's extremely simple to use, the forum help is amazing, and yet it still offers me the ability to flex my inner geek. But again, all of the "Newbie" distros allow that too. I just think there is a reason why Ubuntu is the number one distro right now, and that's by keeping it extremely simple and improving on keeping it simple with each release.

I don't distro bash, and I would say it's your choice to use whatever distro suits your needs the best. If you feel that you don't have enough options when you are installing the system to prevent you from having to spend the time after the install is done, then I would be looking at a different distro that might suit my needs if i were you.

Again, I'm sorry to sound harsh, but I've seen this time and time again both in these forums and when I was on teh PCLOS forums. "We want more options...more..more...more!" The options will always be there, have no worries about that. The installer is the first impression a new user sees and if they get completely confused right off the bat with all these options, we lose them.