best linux other than ubuntu

[bribaetz]

the goal of this is really to find out what people sya is a goo distribution of linux

[AlexenderReez]

for me

gnome

1.only ubuntu in my mind

KDE

1.freespire
2.Sidux
3.linuxmint

[r4ik]

Debian
PClinuxOS

Just my 2cents

[Bachstelze]

Moved to Other OS Talk.

[jrusso2]

LinuxMint
PCLinuxOS
Debian

[bribaetz]

cool well i like the idea of debian but open suse is more like windows than that so i think a lot of people would prefer suse

[bribaetz]

fedora looks to much like ubuntu

[PhatStreet]

Arch. Once it's set up, it's easier maintain than most would expect. Good, up-to-date repositories, and building packages from source is the cleanest I've seen of any distro.

It just doesn't have a lot of GUI configuration tools.

[bribaetz]

mandriva looks easy

[bribaetz]

cool

[Lucho]

It's probably no surprise that I voted for Debian. As much as I like Ubuntu
(and I definately enjoy feisty) Debian is still the man. I took a netinstall,
and put a barebones KDE and XFCE on top. Ubuntu has never come close
to the performance of that rig (but feisty sure is easy to use...).

[goumples]

SUSE. It's what I'd use if Ubuntu didnt exist.

[init1]

fedora looks to much like ubuntu
It may look like it, but it is RPM based and has way more apps.

[init1]

I chose debian, only because I like distros based on debian. I have never actually used pure debian, but I have used Pendrivelinux which claims to be debian with less packages.

[cmat]

It may look like it, but it is RPM based and has way more apps.

RPM is exactly what I'm trying to avoid.

[sawjew]

Where's the Other button?

I would say SimplyMepis. It's the distro that got me totally hooked on linux after playing around with Suse 9.3 (which was also pretty good but I couldn't get wireless working).

The only thing that sent me to Ubuntu is that Gnome is so much better than KDE (no comments please, that's my opinion).

[zetetic]

Debian... nothing comes close to it. It's a tue community distro. And it is stable, fast and secure.
And, the wonder of it all, is that you only need to install Debian once. It's the best distro handling upgrades between versions.

[SunnyRabbiera]

well it depends on what you want to do, but I will categorize:

best .deb based distro other then Ubuntu:
Debian

Best RPM based distro:
PClinuxOS

best multimedia ready distros:
PClinuxOS
Mepis
Linux mint

best free software only based distro:
Debian

Most stable distro:
Slackware (by most popular accounts)

Best pay money distro:
Mandriva (because they have no IP deal with MS)
Redhat

Best KDE based distro:
PCLOS

Best gnome based distro:
fedora

best XFCE distro:
Dreamlinux
arch

best package repo's:
Debian

best server distro:
redhat/ fedora

most of what I have listed is either based on personal experience or what I have heard overall

[init1]

RPM is exactly what I'm trying to avoid.
Why?

[SunnyRabbiera]

RPM has a bad reputation, and its no wonder why as most RPM distro's have major dependency problems compared to .deb based ones.
The only one I like is PClinux but thats mainly because it uses apt and synaptic

[cmat]

RPM has a bad reputation, and its no wonder why as most RPM distro's have major dependency problems compared to .deb based ones.

That's exactly why.

[gl0wst1ckn1nja]

ubuntu is the one for me ... does anyone know when the next one (Edgy Eft ... i think) comes out?

[cmat]

ubuntu is the one for me ... does anyone know when the next one (Edgy Eft ... i think) comes out?

The next one is Gutsy Gibbon and it's scheduled for October this year. Ya Ubuntu is the distro I settled with too.

[bribaetz]

the thing said distros other than ubuntu

[mdsmedia]

Where's the Other button?

I would say SimplyMepis. It's the distro that got me totally hooked on linux after playing around with Suse 9.3 (which was also pretty good but I couldn't get wireless working).

The only thing that sent me to Ubuntu is that Gnome is so much better than KDE (no comments please, that's my opinion).No comments?

I like Gnome too, but I promise I won't say so.

Debian would prolly get my vote, followed by Mepis.

[mdsmedia]

Moved to Other OS Talk.I'm sure they do that just to get their bean count up ;)

[cmat]

I picked payed for Linux like SLED which IMO is fantastic, RPM based though. As for free it would definitely have to be Debian.

[bribaetz]

ppl like debian

[HermanAB]

In terms of easy configuration wizards Mandriva and its sibling PCLinuxOS are best.

However, Ubuntu sure ain't bad!

[bribaetz]

ok

[mdsmedia]

In terms of easy configuration wizards Mandriva and its sibling PCLinuxOS are best.

However, Ubuntu sure ain't bad!I haven't tried PCLOS, but some of its users give it a bad name. I've only ever heard good things about Mandriva.

[bribaetz]

hehe

[mthei]

The only other distro that I have any interest in is Arch, which has replaced Gentoo for me. That said, I don't really feel like switching away from Ubuntu just yet.

[smoker]

haven't voted, not enough choices, if puppy was there, it would get my vote.

[bribaetz]

sorry i only lokked for huge distros

[Tux Aubrey]

sorry i only lokked for huge distros

Boring! Best to start small and build if you really need to. I'd have to say my faves (apart from Ubuntu) right now are all small and light:

Antix (Mepis cut-down)
Zenwalk (Slackware baby, so fast!)
dyne:bolic (breed of its own but a very full featured media distro that is very slick - best Xfce desktop except for Dreamlinux, which is not terribly stable for me)

March looks nice too but I can't get the networking to work.
DSL has been great but the beta of the new version is ugly.
Puppy and Grafpup are also very nice.

[kevinlyfellow]

Boring! Best to start small and build if you really need to.

That's why I like arch. :-)

[subzero1266]

1. Deb based -

Gnome - Ubuntu 7.04 / Linux Mint 3.0 Cassandra

KDE - Kubuntu, Sabayon (for games), PCLinuxOS

2. Rpm based - Fedora, OpenSuSE 10.2

[LuisAugusto]

OpenSUSE of course.

Most of the "new things" of Ubuntu are just things developed by OpenSUSE and Novell.

PS: Actually, has ever Ubuntu made something truly new? I'm asking completely serious

[kirios]

haven't voted, not enough choices
Too few options. What about Mandriva, PCLOS and others?

In terms of easy configuration wizards Mandriva and its sibling PCLinuxOS are best.
Mandriva is easier to use than Ubuntu but there doesn't seem to be much documentation available on the Mandriva site when you do need to look something up.

RPM has a bad reputation, and its no wonder why as most RPM distro's have major dependency problems compared to .deb based ones.
The only one I like is PClinux but thats mainly because it uses apt and synaptic
RPM distros use a front-end like urpmi or yum to handle dependencies, so that isn't an issue now.
apt-rpm is quicker than yum on Fedora (for example) but that has nothing to do with dependencies.

[kirios]

Most of the "new things" of Ubuntu are just things developed by OpenSUSE and Novell.
Ubuntu doesn't include AppArmour or the SLED menu. Has OpenSuse/Novell developed anything else?

[igknighted]

RPM has a bad reputation, and its no wonder why as most RPM distro's have major dependency problems compared to .deb based ones.
The only one I like is PClinux but thats mainly because it uses apt and synaptic

What!?! Rpm has a bad name amongst DEBIAN users because it is different. There was a thread a long time ago that laid out the technical differences, and in short there are certain things that both package types do better than the other. If I was to declare a winner however it would have to be RPM do to the far superior multi-arch capabilities.

Besides, having a "bad reputation" is a really poor way to choose an OS. I bet you heard a lot of bad press about linux before trying it, but that didn't stop you.

In all seriousness, go try Fedora 7 and try to honestly tell me that the packaging system drags the system down. Ok, the default GUI (Pirut) is awful... get Yumex instead if you need a GUI or better yet just run Yum via the CLI. It works like a charm. Read a bit about it first, as it is a little different than a Debian based system (for example, to add a repo typically you download and install an RPM that adds a config file with the repo's data to the proper folder, rather than editing a text file). Yum also gives you more options than apt. Type "yum --help" or "man yum" to see more.

[igknighted]

Ubuntu doesn't include AppArmour or the SLED menu. Has OpenSuse/Novell developed anything else?

Wrong.

http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe3

Also, Compiz (perhaps?), Mono, beagle, XGL all are (or once were) novell sponsored projects. This is just a few, there are many more.

[rharriso]

Ive had a lot of luck with SUSE and Fedora

hakin9 has a distro with some neat features.

[eentonig]

Best distro... to do what?

I can't pick one or two. They all have their weaknesses and strengths

[kazuya]

none of those:
Where are these: Zenwalk, Mepis, PCLOS2007, Elive, Vector linux.
There are a lot missing. The ones mentioned are not quite on par in my opinion with these mentioned ones. Place a category for none of the above.

[kirios]

Wrong.

http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe3

Also, Compiz (perhaps?), Mono, beagle, XGL all are (or once were) novell sponsored projects. This is just a few, there are many more.
I should rephrase that. Ubuntu doesn't include AppArmor in any stable release yet.

Suse developed YaST too (and Novell even GPL'd the code but no other distro seems to have adopted it).

Most of the "new things" of Ubuntu are just things developed by OpenSUSE and Novell.
I'd still like to know which of the 'new things' of Ubuntu were developed by Novell. Just out of curiosity :-)

[igknighted]

I'd still like to know which of the 'new things' of Ubuntu were developed by Novell. Just out of curiosity :-)

"Most of" is certainly not a statement that can be backed up. However, mono is becoming a very big part of future development in Ubuntu, and that is a novell project. The ATI users are certainly very thankful for XGL. I don't care for beagle much, but it is a great proof of concept for the abilities of mono and for desktop searching in general in linux.

I do not have figures for this or the time to look it all up, but it is my understanding that a sizable fraction of kernel developers are employed by companies like red hat and novell, compared to a much smaller fraction of Ubuntu devs (NOT a knock on them, their motivations or their abilities... rather that just does not seem to be canonicals focus)

[LuisAugusto]

I should rephrase that. Ubuntu doesn't include AppArmor in any stable release yet.

Suse developed YaST too (and Novell even GPL'd the code but no other distro seems to have adopted it).

Wrong.

Oracle is porting YaST to they RHLE.

And come on, are you serious trying to bash YaST? The only nice configuration tool on Linux... It's some times slow, yes, but you can adjust pretty much anything with it.


I'd still like to know which of the 'new things' of Ubuntu were developed by Novell. Just out of curiosity :-)

Well, Compiz, XGL, Mono, Beagle, F-spot, AppArmour (which does count, in fact, it's pitiful that they took that long to include it), gnome-control-center those are things I can remember now.

But, I mean, a side of those I mention, which other new thing has Ubuntu include in their releases?

And even more important, Which new thing has truly been developed by Ubuntu? Nobody has seems to answer me :/

[fistfullofroses]

Ok. RPMs used to have dependency issues, and those have been resolved. DEB used to have dependency issues as well. RPM based distros can now use apt-get btw. And wouldn't it be that Ubuntu looks like Fedora, considering the Fedora came first?

0. Gobuntu
1. Slackware
2. BLAG
3. Judas Linux Live

[bribaetz]

looks like everyone likes deb

[bigboy_pdb]

There are far too many distributions/customizations of Linux to list. The following links help a person to understand what Linux distributions are available:

http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=independence
http://730x.up.md/wp-content/44218-1.png
http://photos1.blogger.com/photoInclude/blogger/3370/2500/1600/GNULinuxupdatedw4.0.jpg
http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html#11

The last link is about the history of Unix and is much more difficult to follow.

The distribution that you favour will be dependent on a number of things (such as hardware, devices, GUI preferences, and software preferences). For example, at the beginning of the year when I decided to install Linux on my computer I wanted to customize my Linux installation. I decided to use Debian because I'd used Linux beforehand and was already familiar with the command line and I figured that I'd learn more about Linux packages this way. However, this was problematic because my computer has a wireless internet connection and I needed to save everything (from packages to instructions) to the hard drive. Package dependencies and having to reboot my computer made this a frustrating task so in the end I went with Ubuntu.

Of the distributions in the links that I listed, I've used Mandrivia, Red Hat, Ubuntu, and SUSE. So far I prefer Ubuntu the most. I know that we're not supposed to pick Ubuntu but I don't think it's unfair to choose it if you've used other distributions and you happen to prefer it.

[reckless2k2]

eek...this is kinda tough. i assume you are looking for a desktop alternative to ubuntu? that being said, i'd probably lean towards pclinuxos. i'm not really a rpm based distro fan because of red hat/fedora experiences but pclinuxos is pretty nice desktop alternative. debian kinda does everything well though. can't really beat apt-get and the repos for debian. i just don't think debian is the easiest when it comes to desktop alternative.

[kirios]

Well, Compiz, XGL, Mono, Beagle, F-spot, AppArmour (which does count, in fact, it's pitiful that they took that long to include it), gnome-control-center those are things I can remember now.
It's interesting that so many gnome developers have Novell links. I assume Novell must have hired them after taking over Suse (unless they were all with Suse to start with)?

Which new thing has truly been developed by Ubuntu? Nobody has seems to answer me :/
Maybe there aren't (m)any? Anyone?

[igknighted]

It's interesting that so many gnome developers have Novell links. I assume Novell must have hired them after taking over Suse (unless they were all with Suse to start with)?

I think it has more to do with their acquisition (sp) of mono. OpenSuse was very KDE-centric, but since mono is much more integrated into gnome they started to shift their focus.

[kirios]

2007 Desktop Linux Survey results:
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8454912761.html
Perhaps the most surprising result of our survey was that PCLinuxOS showed so poorly. On DistroWatch, PCLinuxOS has been at the top of the site's page hit ranking for the last 30 days.... In terms of year-over-year growth, openSUSE and SLED were the real winners, in fact, with a jump of 8 percentage points. The Ubuntu family, by comparison, built on its lead by only 1.2 percent.
Related thread on suseforums:
http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?s=&showtopic=37847&view=findpost&p=193167
If you're looking for general popularity, give Google Trends a shot. You can only do 5 search terms at a time, but it's a good representation of what people are searching for, and each set of 5 search terms could easily be combined into one master chart.
"A good representation of what people are searching for:"
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+suse%2C+fedora%2C+gentoo%2C+pcl os&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

[igknighted]

I wouldn't trust google trends... Ubuntu and Fedora have very clear names that would be used as search terms, but PCLOS and Suse are a little different. Suse's results could be split between suse and opensuse, and PCLOS could be pclinuxos or pc linux os or any number of other things. Gentoo is one of those that I wouldn't expect to be searched for as much... if you are going to use it you know where to find it.

[kirios]

I wouldn't trust google trends... Ubuntu and Fedora have very clear names that would be used as search terms, but PCLOS and Suse are a little different. Suse's results could be split between suse and opensuse, and PCLOS could be pclinuxos or pc linux os or any number of other things. Gentoo is one of those that I wouldn't expect to be searched for as much... if you are going to use it you know where to find it.
I agree that Google Trends don't necessarily indicate anything significant, but it's interesting that Ubuntu is clearly a popular search term while "pclinuxos/pclinux os/pc linux os/pclos" are not.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+pclinuxos%2C+pclinux+os%2C+pc+l inux+os%2C+pclos&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
Why does PCLOS get more hits per day than other distros on Distrowatch but not on Google?!

Searching for "suse/opensuse/open suse/suse linux" doesn't really change the result for Suse either.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+suse%2C+opensuse%2C+open+suse&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

[igknighted]

I agree that Google Trends don't necessarily indicate anything significant, but it's interesting that Ubuntu is clearly a popular search term while "pclinuxos/pclinux os/pc linux os/pclos" are not.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+pclinuxos%2C+pclinux+os%2C+pc+l inux+os%2C+pclos&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
Why does PCLOS get more hits per day than other distros on Distrowatch but not on Google?!

Searching for "suse/opensuse/open suse/suse linux" doesn't really change the result for Suse either.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+suse%2C+opensuse%2C+open+suse&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

Interesting. Curious that Ubuntu has that big of a lead in Google. I would imagine that shows that despite the hype that those other distros get (and hence DW page hits), Ubuntu has a much greater install base.

I think that survey is pretty close. I think Suse might be a bit high due to the forum issue, but other than that a top 5 of Ubuntu, Debian (and cohorts), Suse, Fedora and Gentoo seems very reasonable. These upstarts like Sabayon and PCLOS get hits on DW by people who want to see what they are about, but the large install base of the older distros doesn't get the hits there because their users simply don't need to visit their distrowatch page.

[andrek]

Definitely DEBIAN.

[notwen]

Best distro... to do what?

I can't pick one or two. They all have their weaknesses and strengths

Agreed. I prefer a Debian-based distro for the unlimited repos. If I wanted a very custom built distro, I would go w/ Gentoo or Arch. Fortunately for me I've settled on Ubuntu for my daily usage machines and currently have Etch on my server box. As always though, to each his/her own. =]

[nhydra]

I like Fedora because everything just works and the packages are very new and stable.

[Cene]

Gentoo for sure.

[Midwest-Linux]

Freespire 2.0. It uses Ubuntu but with proprietary codecs. You can run audio and video right after installation. The desktop wallpaper looks real good too.

[Frak]

Arch, I like it for its rolling updates.

[wirelessmonkey]

Once you learn to use Slackware, all distros are relatively easy.

[Rupertronco]

There's quite the love deficit for slackware on these boards. It's my personal favorite distribution. I've grown to like Ubuntu and come to know it so I can setup friends/family computers with a user-friendly distro with some eye candy.

Like the post right before this, if you really want to get to know linux, learn slackware.

[j.miller565]

I say Fedora because everything runs exceptionally well on it even though java is a bit difficult to install.

[Dark Star]

Best in the sense ? Full User support out of the box : Sabayan
Most stable distross : Gentoo
Else : open Suse :)

[neodarksaver]

i say freespire and sabayon linux.

[kirios]

Mandriva for new users, Fedora or Debian for others.

[smartboyathome]

I would say SAM is the best other than Ubuntu. You cannot compete with their built-in graphical GRUB setup wizard. ;)

[igknighted]

I would say SAM is the best other than Ubuntu. You cannot compete with their built-in graphical GRUB setup wizard. ;)

Mandriva and PCLOS have the exact same tool (Mandriva developed it), and OpenSuse has one very similar.

None the less, SAM is a terrific distro. Highly recommended.

[kirios]

[Moved to another thread]

[Dark Star]

Mandriva and PCLOS have the exact same tool (Mandriva developed it), and OpenSuse has one very similar.

None the less, SAM is a terrific distro. Highly recommended.

Yep Mandriva and PCLOS are same.. PCLOS tea just ripped the code and created a new OS :|

[igknighted]

Yep Mandriva and PCLOS are same.. PCLOS tea just ripped the code and created a new OS :|

You mean like Ubuntu & Debian? I see nothing wrong with this. Ubuntu grabs the source for the builds in Debian Unstable (IIRC?) every 6 months and works out bugs and releases. PCLOS took Mandriva's SRPMs and did the same.

[fistfullofroses]

Honestly, I do not think that any of those listed are the best. Out of them? Fedora. As per my favorite I honestly prefer BLAG, or GoboLinux. Though Slackware is the best of distributions imo (arch isnt bad either). My ideal is the following:
GoboLinux with JWM, EvilWM, or ratpoison.
I dislike most popular distributions for various reasons. I hate full desktop environments.

[HopePoisoned]

Right now I'm running Elive - it's good in many ways, but i don't think that it's the best or perfect - X has crashed a handful of times because of programs (VLC, MPlayer).

I have the Wolvix image here and I'm running it in Qemu and if I can find a blank CD somewhere I think I might install this - I like Fluxbox's customization options and the clean setup.

I am a fan of Debian based distros though. I'm sure it would be simple to switch to a slackware distro like Wolvix, and I don't think it is inherently better I'm just used to it.

I would say Ubuntu is one of the best though just because of the ridiculous amount of online documentation (and all the ubuntu specific books n such) - honestly i figure any task you want to do in ubuntu has been done before and there's a step by step guide for it

[ArtF10]

From the ones you listed, Gentoo. I've read it is the FASTEST once you get it going. Too bad the average user WILL find that to be Mission Impossible.

[ubuntukerala1980]

I love ubuntu upto now :)

[s26c.sayan]

Arch Linux.....always!!! :)

(My modesty prevents me to mention my very own March Linux here !!:lolflag:)

[jbaerbock]

Like both Fedora and OpenSuse. Would vote Mint but it is so much like Ubuntu it shouldn't count. Overall I think Mandriva was the nicest to me since it had a great control panel with nice tools.

[Pumm4]

I wouldn't choose any of those listed, but since there are only few of them... > I've selected Fedora (coolest experiance from listed distros)

the goal of this is really to find out what people sya is a goo distribution of linux
You shouldn't list Debian, since it's Ubuntu based; Because Ubuntu fanatics will vote for it. (not all of course)
fedora looks to much like ubuntu
And? Who was created first anyway?
OpenSUSE of course.

Most of the "new things" of Ubuntu are just things developed by OpenSUSE and Novell.
Never heard of it. Probably a joke ...
PS: Actually, has ever Ubuntu made something truly new? I'm asking completely serious
Think before posting... completely serious. http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/winking/winking0050.gif

[anticapitalista]

antiX, but I am biased, and it is better than the Ubuntu equivalent.

[LuisAugusto]

You shouldn't list Debian, since it's Ubuntu based; Because Ubuntu fanatics will vote for it. (not all of course)

Ubuntu fans won't vote for Debian, because they have never use Debian (most of them at least)

Never heard of it. Probably a joke ...

Haven't you heard of Novell (The company which own SuSE, and create mono, apparmor, SLAB, Compiz, XGL, just for mention some) and SuSE (One of the oldest distros out there)? Ok, I can't take anything you say seriously.


Think before posting... completely serious. http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/winking/winking0050.gif

Did you answer me? No, Did you give some kind of real argument? No

Can I take you seriously? No.

[Frak]

You shouldn't list Debian, since it's Ubuntu based; Because Ubuntu fanatics will vote for it. (not all of course)

Ubuntu is Debian based. IMHO Debian is one of the most stable and powerful Distributions on Earth.

And? Who was created first anyway?

Gnome was created first, which they both use.
But Ubuntu uses its own Tango modified artwork.
Fedora has its own artwork altogether.

Never heard of it. Probably a joke ...

Novell and SUSE have contributed many applications that you run now.
Respect them. Even if they did make a "dirty deal"

Think before posting... completely serious. http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/winking/winking0050.gif

Think about what?
It was an opinion.

[omns]

No options to vote for :( It's a poorly designed poll that doesn't include slackware based distros.

Zenwalk
Arch

[Stan_1936]

Gentoo is the fastest from what I've read. I agree with the above post about Zenwalk. I tried and really found it very fast and very sufficient. It is very easy to install and works well on slow machines. Amazing distro that you should have included in the poll.

But, I cannot say the same about Arch Linux which was a nightmare for me (new to Linux) and I did not get it to install even halfway I think. The installer is really difficult for a new user and the speed boost is not worth that torture unless you have narrowed it down to Arch as being the only distro that you want on your system. I could finish the "clicking and entering" parts of the Zenwalk OR Ubuntu installation in less than 5 minutes but would be struggling to get anywhere in Arch in that amount of time. My conclusion: Arch Linux is for experts.

[kirios]

Novell and SUSE have contributed many applications that you run now.
Respect them. Even if they did make a "dirty deal"
Leaving aside the politics, there seems to be a tendency to portray Novell as a company that initiated a lot of open-source projects. A closer look suggests that their involvement is largely through their purchase of Ximian and Suse.

Is there anything new that was initiated by Novell? Compiz, perhaps AppArmor ....

[kirios]

Most of the "new things" of Ubuntu are just things developed by OpenSUSE and Novell.

PS: Actually, has ever Ubuntu made something truly new? I'm asking completely serious

Leaving aside the politics, there seems to be a tendency to portray Novell as a company that initiated a lot of open-source projects. A closer look suggests that their involvement is largely through their purchase of Ximian and Suse.

Is there anything new that was initiated by Novell? Compiz, perhaps AppArmor ....

So now we have 2 unanswered questions in this thread.
Of course, both questions are of academic interest only (not to run either distro down).
Still it would have been nice to know more about this :-)

[jbaerbock]

If it is indeed true that Novell initiated a lot of Ubuntu's projects or features then Ubuntu has done a marvelous job of improving upon them. I tried Open Suse and it doesn't work nearly as well with my computer as does Kubuntu, features work better than Suse's too. Again this is just in my personal experience.

[DoktorSeven]

Slackware. If Ubuntu didn't exist that's what I'd be using.

[martin_prince]

fedora looks to much like ubuntu

Lol, fedora was around WAY before Ubuntu...

[igknighted]

Lol, fedora was around WAY before Ubuntu...

Err, well, Warty was released in October 2004, while Fedora Core 1 was released in November 2003. Thats not WAY before. But Fedora Core 1 was the logical continuation of Red Hat 10, so, if you include the pre-RHEL/Fedora split versions of Red Hat, you are indeed correct, Fedora has been around far longer.

Basically, they both look like a stock Gnome setup.

[danny joe ritchie]

Debian (or debian based)

OpenSUSE

Fedora

[jbaerbock]

I do find it funny how Fedora (RedHat) has been around far longer and yet ubuntu works so much better, at least on my laptop.

[notwen]

I must stick with the two distros who have the the most packages and the most straight-forward method for installing said packages. Debian-based distros followed by Red Hat/Fedora who have greatly improved RPM. That said I'm a die-hard Debian fan. =]

[Antman]

Arch, I like it for its rolling updates.

That's why I like Sidux (Debian Sid). :guitar:

Ant

[bribaetz]

is it really going to be deb

[Wiebelhaus]

No PCLOS?

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debian

[bribaetz]

deb seems to be awsome

[vishzilla]

OpenSuse has received good reviews. But I prefer Debian based distros, I have worked on Linux Mint its quite good

[jayaramk]

i ptrefer fedora and much waiting for the next release to be in 11 days!!!!!

[bribaetz]

see i think that fedora and Debian are the two most like Ubuntu and thats why they are doing well.

[prodigalson666]

1.Sabayon, incredible system, best out of the box experience.
2.Linux mint, second best out of the box experience.

[Frak]

Sidux, very up-to-date, and very fast IMHO.

[bribaetz]

but Ubuntu is still the best