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soulraven
July 10th, 2007, 07:23 AM
hy, what capture card, or tv tuner is good and is compatible with ubuntu linux for a live stream?leadtek?avermedia?what?
i need a card with S-Video input and Composite input......
Witch is best and the linux suport is good for my neads.....
sorry for my bead english......
dabl
July 10th, 2007, 11:55 AM
According to the posts I have read, most folks that are getting MythTV to work are using the Hauppauge PCI cards: http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/prods_pvr.html
I just ordered a PVR-150 -- I guess we'll see if I can make it work to capture VHS tape. :)
Adaptec had some cards, but they are now discontinued. I don't know about other ones.
soulraven
July 10th, 2007, 12:11 PM
and is suport for this tuner?the driver is public?or the instalation procedure is complicated and ambigues....
Later edit: i found this page from the ofiicial site:
http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Main_Page
i thing this is the best solution......send me a sign when you install the tv card......or anyone?
soulraven
July 11th, 2007, 09:06 AM
this card has anyone tray? work with ubuntu? http://www.innodv.com/products/smart_capture.html
dabl
July 11th, 2007, 09:29 AM
Hmmm, on their home page, their last "news" was August 2006. Are you sure they're still there?
Re: Hauppauge PVR-150, the answer to the question "Is the installation procedure complicated and ambiguous?" is in two parts:
(a) the card popped into an empty PCI slot and was recognized correctly by Ubuntu immediately
(b) YES, with regard to installing IVTV -- spent two hours on it last night and got maybe 80% correct. Got stalled on "copying firmware" -- I may be able to figure it out and finish tonight. [-o<
napsilan
July 11th, 2007, 09:33 AM
I just installed a pchdtv 5500 about a month ago for my mythtv computer, and it works great. It doesn't have a hardware analog tv encoder though, but my processor is big enough to handle it. I don't use the digital/hd portion of it much yet but I figured/hoped that it would be useful in the future (only about 2-3 unencrypted digital channels on my cable).
soulraven
July 11th, 2007, 09:44 AM
Hmmm, on their home page, their last "news" was August 2006. Are you sure they're still there?
Re: Hauppauge PVR-150, the answer to the question "Is the installation procedure complicated and ambiguous?" is in two parts:
(a) the card popped into an empty PCI slot and was recognized correctly by Ubuntu immediately
(b) YES, with regard to installing IVTV -- spent two hours on it last night and got maybe 80% correct. Got stalled on "copying firmware" -- I may be able to figure it out and finish tonight. [-o<
the video input is working?the S-video and composite?you try to make a stream with them?
dabl
July 11th, 2007, 09:45 AM
Nice!
http://www.pchdtv.com/
When I get done recording VHS tapes and get ready to move on to HDTV, this is obviously what I'll want. But I'm not sure how many unencrypted channels I have, if any. Guess a little research will have to precede the purchase!
Thanks! :)
dabl
July 11th, 2007, 09:55 AM
the video input is working?the S-video and composite?you try to make a stream with them?
It "played" a noisy black empty TV screen on my Ubuntu desktop -- it would not show the output of the VCR recorder that was playing the VHS tape. I tried Channel 3 and Channel 4 (on the VCR), I tried the RF cable and the composite video cable, and I "captured" output from /dev/vbi0, /dev/video0, /dev/video24, and /dev/video32, which were the 4 devices that Ubuntu initially assigned it when I rebooted after installing the card. In every case, the "test.mpg" file was empty of video/audio content, so it's not capturing yet.
But, after I installed Mercurial, and the first parts of IVTV, those device settings went away. I hit a wall installing the firmware when it was required to "unzip" a zip file and unzip apparently isn't in my $PATH. So, I ran out of time last night, and will have to attack it again tonight, if time permits. :(
soulraven
July 11th, 2007, 10:03 AM
It "played" a noisy black empty TV screen on my Ubuntu desktop -- it would not show the output of the VCR recorder that was playing the VHS tape. I tried Channel 3 and Channel 4 (on the VCR), I tried the RF cable and the composite video cable, and I "captured" output from /dev/vbi0, /dev/video0, /dev/video24, and /dev/video32, which were the 4 devices that Ubuntu initially assigned it when I rebooted after installing the card.
But, after I installed Mercurial, and the first parts of IVTV, those device settings went away. I hit a wall installing the firmware when it was required to "unzip" a zip file and unzip apparently isn't in my $PATH. So, I ran out of time last night, and will have to attack it again tonight, if time permits. :(
i hope you finish the instalation OK, because i need help, and i don't know this is the final opion for hardware...the money is limited, because is for a project, Live TV over the internet.....
dabl
July 11th, 2007, 11:45 AM
i hope you finish the instalation OK, because i need help
Did you find the README.install file in the IVTV dowload/extracted files? It is in the /DOCS folder in the extracted files. It gives the detailed instructions that I've been trying to follow.
soulraven
July 11th, 2007, 11:52 AM
in this moment i don't have the capture card......because the buget is verry small, and i want to buy one time, and work.....
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dabl
July 11th, 2007, 12:09 PM
Ahhh -- OK. Well, the PVR-150 is very cheap. I'll post if I happen to get it working. :)
soulraven
July 11th, 2007, 12:19 PM
i hope ......
in the part regarding the software?what server is good?any server suport overlay ? i mean to insert a picture in to the stream......a picture, a date and time, text.......is any software dedicated for this job?
tgm4883
July 11th, 2007, 12:44 PM
The PVR-150 works out of the box with MythTV and Feisty. The pcHDTV HD5500 works *almost* out of the box with feisty (you literally have to modprobe 1 driver)
Now i'm not sure why you need the svideo and composite, but it is important what you really plan on using it for as it could change recommendations. (IE if your hooking up a console vs television, etc)
Regarding the 2 cards above, one is for SD and one is for HD. (I know the HD5500 does both, but it doesn't have a hardware encoder for the SD) So depending on what you want to capture, one card is better than the other.
A third choice if you have a STB is to stream over firewire. This will give you both SD and HD, but you are still limited to channels that don't have copy protection flags. In the USA, the law requires that your STB have a functional firewire port.
I have these three things and would recommend the STB over firewire and the PVR-150. That way you don't have to deal with the crap analog channels over the firewire connection. There are some flubs in the digital connection every now and then from the cable company that will require a re-priming of the firewire connection, but hopefully this will be fixed with the release of gutsy and MythTV .21
A fourth consideration is the HDHomeRun. It is about $40 more expensive than the HD5500, but comes with 2 HD tuners, and since it is external and conectable via an ethernet connection, it can be placed anywhere and doesn't take up a pci slot.
@ dabi
I have noticed that the channels I receive with the HD5500 (also applies to the HDHomeRun as they view the same type of channels) are all OTA channels.
soulraven
July 11th, 2007, 02:01 PM
i use Composite and S-video input because the video mixer knows that format...the simple schematics is that.....Video camera-Video mixer-Capture card-Video Server-internet
thx....
i will buy from my local store from your recomandation PVR-150.....now i have the licente examns and i don't know nothing....
F...k Romania:((
tgm4883
July 11th, 2007, 02:17 PM
If thats the case, you don't really need a tuner card, as was suggested.
soulraven
July 11th, 2007, 02:25 PM
i know, but i not shure what is good for my configuation...ubuntu...capture card...video stream....
tgm4883
July 11th, 2007, 02:41 PM
what video mixer is it?
soulraven
July 11th, 2007, 02:42 PM
old one......Panasonic MX20......
tgm4883
July 11th, 2007, 02:49 PM
I'd go with the PVR 150. It's a good card and works out of the box.
You don't need mythtv though for this purpose. You should be able to record directly.
soulraven
July 11th, 2007, 03:42 PM
any server ?what is your recomandation?
dabl
July 24th, 2007, 07:00 PM
I got my PVR-150 working correctly for analog TV capture (out of a VCR, playing a VHS tape). Here's the basic process: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3085164.0 :popcorn:
soulraven
July 26th, 2007, 06:11 AM
the PVR-150 has the S-video and the Composite IN?
tgm4883
July 26th, 2007, 11:18 AM
Yep
dabl
July 26th, 2007, 01:24 PM
the PVR-150 has the S-video and the Composite IN?
YEP, but I only got success with the S-Video-IN port, so I had to buy a composite-to-S-Video adapter, and go from Composite-out on the VCR to S-Video in on the PVR-150. Probably just some dumb goof-up by me, but that's how I made it work. :)
soulraven
July 31st, 2007, 06:32 AM
have manage some one to stream the sound from a Line In input of a PVR-150? with witch syntax on the command line?with what format?anyone?
hackmeister
August 1st, 2007, 12:46 PM
I'm using the composite inputs on my 150 card in my Myth box. The image (understandably) looks slightly better than the coaxial input.
dabl
August 1st, 2007, 02:25 PM
have manage some one to stream the sound from a Line In input of a PVR-150? with witch syntax on the command line?with what format?anyone?
You say "stream" -- I have successfully "recorded" the audio component of a VHS tape, using the S-Video (for video) and the line-in for audio. I didn't try it in "streaming" or live mode, but I assume it would work that way too. I used vlc for the recorder/player. :)
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