Starcraft and Cedega = hard crash

[sunscape]

So, i have installed starcraft on hoary using the latest version of cedega and each time i play it either lags so horribly that it becomes unplayable or simply crashes my entire system. It seem that network games (even local) are extremely laggy as well. So my question is... what is the deal?


I am using hoary as i said with an ati 9600 (latest drivers). 3D acceleration works just fine and my computer is otherwise completely stable.

[apollo2011]

Keep in mind that WINE, which Cedega is based on, is considered Alpha software. Currently, it will not be able to seamlessly run all or even few Windows programs. So it is simply expected that Starcraft won't run properly, even if someone says it will. It also varies from version to version how well programs run.

Cedega is simply Wine except licensed as non-free software and developed separately at Transgaming.

This page might be very interesting for you:
http://timedoctor.org/boycott_cedega.php

[Soulfly]

Keep in mind that WINE, which Cedega is based on, is considered Alpha software. Currently, it will not be able to seamlessly run all or even few Windows programs. So it is simply expected that Starcraft won't run properly, even if someone says it will. It also varies from version to version how well programs run.

Cedega is simply Wine except licensed as non-free software and developed separately at Transgaming.

This page might be very interesting for you:
http://timedoctor.org/boycott_cedega.php

Quite a lot of bashing there in the link! One of the points for boycotting Cedega is:
* TransGaming encourages the misconception that their product is not an emulator, despite the fact that the founder of the Wine project refers to it as such. <snip>

which is funny because according to http://www.winehq.com/site/myths under "myth 1" wine stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator" just to avoid misconceptions.

The main arguments for a boycott seems to be that Transgaming is not giving back anything to Wine after Wine swiched to LGPL and for encouraging game developers not to make native ports because of Cedega. Both points sounds like "survival" to me. If Wine could run the games as goog as Cedega, why buy Licences? If every game was ported to native Linux, they would have no market. My guess is that Counter Strike is at least half of their market which you clearly can see on their homepage.

In a perfect world, I hope that transgaming is doomed, because then we can run our games natively on Linux. But in the meantime, If Cedega lets me run the games I want in Linux, I'll stick with it. The boycott_cedega page also correctly states that DirectX is a moving target which will make people constantly dependent on upgrades. Considering all the stories (on the above site) of doubtful ethics regarding Transgaming this could even be a maintainable factor from their side.

I think the best we can do is to show the gaming companies a market! Even if the percentage of the market is low, it could mean a considerable increase on their margins.

[rastilin]

Even if every game also had a linux release I still believe there is value in a good compatability layer for DirectX applications. The main problem is that there are many games that will never be ported, either because they are so old (Starcraft, Fallout, Sanitarium) or because the companies that originally produced them have gone bankrupt (Baldur's Gate, Galdur's Gate 2, Lionheart).I personally still enojy all of these games and I wish to play them on my Linux operating system.

Additionally it is important to remember that while DirectX is a moving target, the games are not. For example Half Life 2 currently uses DirectX 9 and it will always use DirectX 9 regardless of what the latest version of DirectX is. Once there is full support for DirectX 9, HL2 will run and it will still be an excellent game.

[apollo2011]

Quite a lot of bashing there in the link! One of the points for boycotting Cedega is:
* TransGaming encourages the misconception that their product is not an emulator, despite the fact that the founder of the Wine project refers to it as such. <snip>

which is funny because according to http://www.winehq.com/site/myths under "myth 1" wine stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator" just to avoid misconceptions.

What's in a name. WINE standing for Wine Is Not an Emulator is just name, just like Lame (Lame Ain't an Mp3 Enoder), really is an MP3 encoder (in fact, that is exactly what it is). So there is a difference between what the name implies and what the founder/developers/etc. say it is.