[SOLVED] Common Desktop goals

[Michael Banck]

On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 12:25:15AM +0200, Bluefuture wrote:
> - Developing a gtk frontend for the new Debian installer:
> Kov had started some preliminary work on this issue.
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-desktop/2004/06/msg00004.html and
> following.

d-i should get some serious HIG love first, I guess.

> - Working on an option like "rpm -h" for dpkg system:
> This could improve usability of apt frontends like apt-watch and
> synaptic for newbie users.

Eh, can you elaborate what 'rpm -h' does, please?

> If Userlinux and UbuntuLinux developers thinks that this could be common
> goals for the "upstream" Debian some discussion and ideas about this
> issues could be discussed on the "neutral" :) debian-desktop mailing
> list.

That would be nice of course.


Michael

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[Scott James Remnant]

On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 00:25 +0200, Bluefuture wrote:

> I think that could be some "Desktop" common goals for UbuntuLinux
> UserLinux and Debian Destkop:
>
My understanding was that Debian Desktop was a dead project, killed when
Colin Walters left for Red Hat. Has it been revitalised? Certainly the
web page hasn't changed and still suggests Colin is involved.

> - Working on Debian Control Center:
> http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianControlCenter
>
I've had vague concerns about this project's focus on using debconf,
wary that this is getting pretty close to using debconf as a registry
which it isn't supposed to be at all.

The other interesting thing missing is exactly what this will let you
control, a set of requirements I would've thought would've been the
first thing they would have put together; perhaps with UI mock-ups,
before they even thought about the backends.

Personally, I'm following this project with interest, but not yet sold
on it.

> - Working on an option like "rpm -h" for dpkg system:
> This could improve usability of apt frontends like apt-watch and
> synaptic for newbie users.
>
I'm actually looking at overhauling dpkg entirely; apt frontends and
synaptic would simply link to libdpkg rather than invoking it on the
command-line ... they could then get whatever callback and status they
want.

Scott
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[Michael Banck]

On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 12:08:48PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 00:25 +0200, Bluefuture wrote:
> > - Working on Debian Control Center:
> > http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianControlCenter

> The other interesting thing missing is exactly what this will let you
> control, a set of requirements I would've thought would've been the
> first thing they would have put together; perhaps with UI mock-ups,

Good point.

> before they even thought about the backends.

Backends seem to be gnome-system-tools at least partly, so there might
be overlap.

> > - Working on an option like "rpm -h" for dpkg system:
> > This could improve usability of apt frontends like apt-watch and
> > synaptic for newbie users.

> I'm actually looking at overhauling dpkg entirely; apt frontends and
> synaptic would simply link to libdpkg rather than invoking it on the
> command-line ... they could then get whatever callback and status they
> want.

Rock.


Michael

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[Bluefuture]

Hi,
I think that could be some "Desktop" common goals for UbuntuLinux
UserLinux and Debian Destkop:

- Introducing a graphical boot in Debian:
IMHO, actually the best solution is Gensplash
http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/gensplash/

- Working on Debian Control Center:
http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianControlCenter

- Developing a gtk frontend for the new Debian installer:
Kov had started some preliminary work on this issue.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-desktop/2004/06/msg00004.html and
following.

- Improve Apt-watch:
apt-watch is a tool (desktop applet) which monitors apt repositories for
updates, particularly security updates.
http://alioth.debian.org/projects/apt-watch/

- Working on an option like "rpm -h" for dpkg system:
This could improve usability of apt frontends like apt-watch and
synaptic for newbie users.

- Improve initd and Kernel optimization for Desktop.
Some of this issues are discussed here:
http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianDesktop.

If Userlinux and UbuntuLinux developers thinks that this could be common
goals for the "upstream" Debian some discussion and ideas about this
issues could be discussed on the "neutral" :) debian-desktop mailing
list.

Regards,
Stefano