Safari on Windows...GNU/Linux to follow??

[naraic]

As I'm sure some of you have already heard...Safari from Mac OS X is being released on Windows. Apple announced a public Beta today. I really doubt that it will be ported, but I was just wondering anyway if anyone would /does use it, in OS X, Windows or otherwise?

naraic

[Swab]

As I'm sure some of you have already heard...Safari from Mac OS X is being released on Windows. Apple announced a public Beta today. I really doubt that it will be ported, but I was just wondering anyway if anyone would /does use it, in OS X, Windows or otherwise?

naraic

Safari is based on KHTML, the rendering engine behind Konqueror. So, we already have something very similar.

[naraic]

Ah..ok. Rendering engines mean nothing to me, I'm afraid. Accept, i think Firefox is Gecko.... The only things I would notice are interface and add-ons and other such features. Safari isn't great like that anyway. Is Konqueror any good?

[Hendrixski]

yeah, and the dev's at KDE have been complaining for ages that Apple does a piss poor job of sending its modifications back upstream. Why should we care about them if they just act like douchebags.

[Torajima]

Safari isn't great like that anyway. Is Konqueror any good?

I like Safari, it has a clean interface, it's lacking in bloat, and it's quite fast. It's definately my favorite Mac broswer (though Camino is pretty slick too).

Still deciding on a broswer to use in Ubuntu, but I gotta say I'm liking Firefox more than I thought I would.

[benanzo]

Does anyone actually think we need another browser in GNU/Linux? Every browser worth considering is already native to this platform, those being Firefox, Konqueror, Opera (not for me though), Epiphany, Flock, and a slew of others. I think bringing Safari here would be a waste of Apple's time...there isn't much market...no one is clammoring for it.

[Lord Illidan]

Does anyone actually think we need another browser in GNU/Linux? Every browser worth considering is already native to this platform, those being Firefox, Konqueror, Opera (not for me though), Epiphany, Flock, and a slew of others. I think bringing Safari here would be a waste of Apple's time...there isn't much market...no one is clammoring for it.

Aye, firefox is enough..

[Sweet Mercury]

Ah..ok. Rendering engines mean nothing to me, I'm afraid. Accept, i think Firefox is Gecko.... The only things I would notice are interface and add-ons and other such features. Safari isn't great like that anyway. Is Konqueror any good?

I though Konqueror was awful, but then again I thought everything about K was awful.

The Gnome browser, epiphany, seemed like a duplicate of Firefox, so why not use Firefox?

[Lord Illidan]

I though Konqueror was aweful, but then again I thought everything about K was awful.

The Gnome browser, epiphany, seemed like a duplicate of Firefox, so why not use Firefox?

Because epiphany uses GTK, unlike Firefox which uses the Mozilla toolset.

[Sweet Mercury]

Because epiphany uses GTK, unlike Firefox which uses the Mozilla toolset.

How much does that really cost in terms of system resources, though?

It can't be that big of a deal, or Ubuntu wouldn't default with Firefox and not even install Epiphany.

[Dirk.R.Gently]

Because epiphany uses GTK, unlike Firefox which uses the Mozilla toolset.

I'm not sure of all the details but Firefox has some gtk dependecies as well.

[benanzo]

GTK is better optimized in terms of resource consumption. Firefox does use GTK for some of the widgets, but uses their own lib for most-everything else. I really like Epiphany and would use it if it supported RSS live bookmarks like FF. I see that it is on their To Do list, so we'll see. Ideally I would like Epiphany to adopt some of the newsreader stuff that Flock has, without the rest of the social media fat they incorporate. Epiphany feels faster. Whether it is or not, I don't know.

[kevinlyfellow]

Apple won't bother with linux... we have a relatively small user base and most of us wouldn't use safari.

[ronocdh]

yeah, and the dev's at KDE have been complaining for ages that Apple does a piss poor job of sending its modifications back upstream. Why should we care about them if they just act like douchebags.
I agree with this. Also, Benanzo's post about "too many browsers!" speaks to me, too, but personally I wouldn't use Safari on Linux because I don't think Apple could make it happen in a way that would appeal to the community's sensibilities. It wouldn't be open source. It would be fast, probably, but not the fastest rendering speed to be had on Linux and it certainly wouldn't be extensible.

And kevinlyfellow is right in saying that most of us just wouldn't use it, one way or the other, I think. But apparently Apple thinks Windows users will! Perhaps a handful of Apple faithful who must use WinXP at work or something, but outside of that... I dunno. I must say, though, I'm happy to see notable browser competition on Windows! Anything to raise awareness, as well as the bar.

[Depressed Man]

I haven't tried Safari on Windows yet..so my post is going be based off my previous use with it on Macs..but who would actually use Safari? Even the people I know who use Macs use Firefox instead of Safari. I'd dare say IE7 is better then Safari.

Though I may edit this post once I finish setting up Ubuntu on my desktop and then setup the Windows part of my desktop if Safari has been changed.

[hobieone]

regardless what share of of people would use or not not use safari. i dont think it would hardly be any effort on apple to release safari or i tunes for that matter to linux. on acount both linux and mac os are unix based based systems so theoretically very little would need to be ported over other than how to install them

[odinfromvalhalla]

You can get Safari 3 beta to run under Ubuntu (or any Linux for that mater) using wine: Installing Safari 3 beta on Ubuntu 7.10 (http://myscienceisbetter.info/2008/01/installing-safari-3-beta-on-ub.html)

[tr333]

The only reason I can see why Apple released safari for windows was for iPhone developers to have something to test on.

[zaipai]

I like Safari, I use it on my Vista PC at work and on my WinXP and Linux PC's at home. Its a nice lite browser and has a clean UI. The only problem I am having is with https requests don't seem to work using wine and safari. I think porting over iTunes would be a good move for Apple, because lots of the Linux die hards I know use iPods and it would just make adopting Linux that much more appealing to those thinking about switching. However, I won't hold my breath. I think Apple should give back a little, but they show no love for Linux or open source software... sigh..