I've never hated Windows more

[filemanager]

I installed Windows, then Ubuntu (on separate partitions), and it was working great. Then I stupidly went online in Windows and within 10 minutes I was infested with viruses and could not get rid of them. AntiVirus wasn't picking them up.

So I formatted the Windows partition, and when I rebooted Linux wouldnt boot.

So now I'm reinstalling Windows. I hope when it's reinstaled Linux starts booting again, I would hate to have to reinstall IT too! ](*,)

[H_Roark]

I installed Windows, then Ubuntu (on separate partitions), and it was working great. Then I stupidly went online in Windows and within 10 minutes I was infested with viruses and could not get rid of them. AntiVirus wasn't picking them up.

So I formatted the Windows partition, and when I rebooted Linux wouldnt boot.

So now I'm reinstalling Windows. I hope when it's reinstaled Linux starts booting again, I would hate to have to reinstall IT too! ](*,)

This is another reason I'm holding off on the dual-boot idea I asked about in the other thread. About a year ago, after a total HD failure, I had to install XP. I ran the updates before installing AV and Firewall software. Within less than 10 minutes, I had picked up the blaster worm and a few other nasties. Yet another reason to say, "never again" to Windows.

[Xian]

So now I'm reinstalling Windows. I hope when it's reinstaled Linux starts booting again, I would hate to have to reinstall IT too! ](*,)
Save yourself the headache. Don't reinstall Windows.
It is trying to tell you something.... :)

[filemanager]

Save yourself the headache. Don't reinstall Windows.
It is trying to tell you something.... :)
You may be right. I think it's a sign.

[nobodysbusiness]

I ditched windows and haven't looked back. I bought Cedega to play Windows games and found alternatives to programs that I frequently used. It can be trying, at times, but it's worth it.

[Quest-Master]

It's probably a GRUB problem.. take a look at UbuntuGuide for help on reinstalling it to the MBR.

[brim4brim]

I'm too addicted to HL2 to ditch windows completely but I've had similar problems to this and once windows is reinstalled everything goes back to normal from my experience.

[WildTangent]

i honestly dont know how youre getting viruses within minutes, my windows computer hasnt had a virus in almost a year, and im using a free virus scanner! if you have a hardware firewall (such as a router) your safety will be greatly improved. id suggest getting one, even if you dont have computers to network

-Wild

[filemanager]

I'm too addicted to HL2 to ditch windows completely but I've had similar problems to this and once windows is reinstalled everything goes back to normal from my experience.
Now Windows won't reinstall though, it just freezes during the setup. I'm ditching Windows and using Cedega. Does anyone know if Cedega supports:
- Neverwinter Nights
- The Sims 2
- Microsoft Office XP

[filemanager]

You know now that I think about it, nothing has frustrated me more (on my computer) then Windows. eugh. !@#$

[Kyral]

Now Windows won't reinstall though, it just freezes during the setup. I'm ditching Windows and using Cedega. Does anyone know if Cedega supports:
- Neverwinter Nights
- The Sims 2
- Microsoft Office XP
Check Transgaming.org's Game Databank.

Use OpenOffice in place of MS Office

POWER TO THE TUX :D

[Seti]

If you had GRUB in your MBR, then reinstalling Windows will overwrite GRUB guaranteed. At least this has always been my experience when dual-booting Windows with Linux. If you do reinstall Windows, you will simply have to reinstall Grub also.
But your best bet is to avoid Windows altogether! :)

[filemanager]

Check Transgaming.org's Game Databank.

Use OpenOffice in place of MS Office

POWER TO THE TUX :D
I'll do that, thanks.

If I wrote a document in OpenOffice and emailed it to someone who had MS Office XP, would they be able to open it?

[poofyhairguy]

I'll do that, thanks.

If I wrote a document in OpenOffice and emailed it to someone who had MS Office XP, would they be able to open it?


Yes...if they only need to read the files the best way is to use openoffice's "save as pdf" option. They it is 100% compatible.

If they need to edit it...save as a *.doc

It will work 90%+.

[brim4brim]

Yes...if they only need to read the files the best way is to use openoffice's "save as pdf" option. They it is 100% compatible.

If they need to edit it...save as a *.doc

It will work 90%+.

Supports saving as XML aswell doesn't it and HTML, all compatible with everything.

I use the .doc and just for safety HTML format so people can read it but I've never had a problem with the .doc. For anything except those really rarely used features in Office it works.

[filemanager]

So long Windows!

I'm going to use Cedega. The Sims 2 and Neverwinter Nights were the only reason I was really keeping it. Well that and programming stuff but I have my old computer running XP for that ;)

[Optimal Aurora]

I installed Windows, then Ubuntu (on separate partitions), and it was working great. Then I stupidly went online in Windows and within 10 minutes I was infested with viruses and could not get rid of them. AntiVirus wasn't picking them up.

So I formatted the Windows partition, and when I rebooted Linux wouldnt boot.

So now I'm reinstalling Windows. I hope when it's reinstaled Linux starts booting again, I would hate to have to reinstall IT too! ](*,)
When you installed windows you should have did a disk defrag and ran the antivirus and you shouldn't have went out downloading anything...

[sapo]

Now Windows won't reinstall though, it just freezes during the setup. I'm ditching Windows and using Cedega. Does anyone know if Cedega supports:
- Neverwinter Nights
- The Sims 2
- Microsoft Office XP


Neverwinter Nights has a linux installer.. you can run it WITHOUT cedega... :grin:

Neverwinter nights linux howto: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?page=1&articleid=4

The sims 2 i dont know..

And just use oppenoffice.org

[Kyral]

So long Windows!

I'm going to use Cedega. The Sims 2 and Neverwinter Nights were the only reason I was really keeping it. Well that and programming stuff but I have my old computer running XP for that ;)
Programming with Linux is easy (unless its like .NET or something)

Just install Anjuta, Eclipse, Bluefish, etc

[primeirocrime]

I am very pleased to inform that I have just erased my windows partition and now I have no longer a microsoft fueled Operating System in my hard-drive. I just felt it was to fast...a couple of mouse strokes in gparted editing fstab and grub and I'm free of it. No more unecessary space taken.


Now Dual-booting will only bee for the free OSs that float arround the web waiting for me to try them.



I feel free as in GNU.

[Optimal Aurora]

I am very pleased to inform that I have just erased my windows partition and now I have no longer a microsoft fueled Operating System in my hard-drive. I just felt it was to fast...a couple of mouse strokes in gparted editing fstab and grub and I'm free of it. No more unecessary space taken.


Now Dual-booting will only bee for the free OSs that float arround the web waiting for me to try them.



I feel free as in GNU.
You all are only one hundred thousand people to over 5 billion people that actually use windows in legal and non-legal forms. You can't hope to achieve a linux desktop or servers or anything competing against those numbers...

[poofyhairguy]

You can't hope to achieve a linux desktop or servers or anything competing against those numbers...


Ummm...Aurora...the person just posted "I just deleted Windows." Thats means that the person (like me) "achieved Linux as a desktop OS."

It can be done. Not for you I guess. But please quit heckling people that can....

[Big Venus]

Ummm...Aurora...the person just posted "I just deleted Windows." Thats means that the person (like me) "achieved Linux as a desktop OS."

It can be done. Not for you I guess. But please quit heckling people that can....
I never heard of heckling, but this is the definition from webster...

Main Entry: heck·le
Pronunciation: 'he-k&l
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): heck·led; heck·ling /-k(&-)li[ng]/
Etymology: Middle English hekelen to dress flax, scratch, from heckele hackle; akin to Old High German hAko hook -- more at HOOK
: to harass and try to disconcert with questions, challenges, or gibes : BADGER

Isn't that the next version of Ubuntu a badger, well it looks like he or she is on a roll to the badger release...

I am not defending him or her but I am curious as why you all seem to be turning on her or him...

EDIT= Sorry, I see... isn't their any merit to what he or she is saying?

[poofyhairguy]

: to harass and try to disconcert with questions, challenges, or gibes

Thats the one I meant.


I am not defending him or her but I am curious as why you all seem to be turning on her or him...

There is no turning. Its just that there are more of us Linux fans here than Window fans...so it seems like we are ganging up. Can you blame us- this is our part of the web.

And I don't see anyone being really disrespectful to Aurora. If they are..please point it out and I will deal with it as a mod. If anything, Aurora's comment that basically implies "why even bother using Linux as a desktop OS when all the rest of the computerworld is in a different boat"is the closest thing to disrespect I've seen here.

If Aurora puts up good points they will be read and digested and dissected. Thats the way thing work.

[Big Venus]

Agreed, but still I can see where she comes from like for me I dislike gaming in linux, it never seem to be a thing for me and my amd64 platform has had alot of problems that I worked on but linux is my primary except like right now (norton and Windows are updating themselves...)

[Knome_fan]

You all are only one hundred thousand people to over 5 billion people that actually use windows in legal and non-legal forms.

LOL.
5 billion people in the world using windows? That's 5/6 of the entire world population. Stop being silly and maybe someone will take you seriously again.
And btw., only one hundred thousand linux users is about as accurate 5 billion windows users.


You can't hope to achieve a linux desktop or servers or anything competing against those numbers...
First off, I'm not competing against anything, second those numbers are totally of base, so nobody is competing against them, third please get a clue about how many billions in bussiness linux already creates before you comment the next time.

[filemanager]

I am very pleased to inform that I have just erased my windows partition and now I have no longer a microsoft fueled Operating System in my hard-drive. I just felt it was to fast...a couple of mouse strokes in gparted editing fstab and grub and I'm free of it. No more unecessary space taken.


Now Dual-booting will only bee for the free OSs that float arround the web waiting for me to try them.



I feel free as in GNU.
Me too! No more headaches to deal with 8)

[poofyhairguy]

Agreed, but still I can see where she comes from

Me too. I'm not blind- I see huge usability issues in Ubuntu. Like how hard it is to use ndiswrapper, or what you must go through to get certain "fully supported out of the box" wireless card to scan for networks. Or many other things.

A Window's fan can have many legitimate gripes about Linux. That is fine. What is not fine is:

1. Saying that Linux is useless or worthless when it doesn't work for you.

2. Telling people that "Linux will never be a desktop OS" when people freaking use it TODAY as a desktop OS.

3. Telling people that their decision to use Linux shows some sort of character flaw

Or many other disrespectful things that Windows fans say about Linux. (NOTE: Aurora didn't say all of that...I was giving examples I have seen). The only thing worse to me is when people demand that Linux fixes their problem just because they told the world about it- Like Linux is some company with a profit motive or something.

In the end "Linux is just a kernel" and no one is forced to use it. In fact- it can often be harder to use than the alternatives. But that does not mean that its not usuable or successful as it is.

Might does not make right. And neither does condecension.

[primeirocrime]

You all are only one hundred thousand people to over 5 billion people that actually use windows in legal and non-legal forms. You can't hope to achieve a linux desktop or servers or anything competing against those numbers...

indeed. Not my mission on this planet, I'm not a preacher or prosilitistic freak. I was just happy and sharing, still am, now I have 30gb more to fill with my .xcf works.

and by the way to me and this is very personal, gnu/linux is far better than windows and I used Microsft products since Windows 3.0 and at the time I loved it, until I started to understand how things worked [or didn't]. It lasted till WinXP.

5 billion people can be wrong at the same time, it wouldn't surprise me a bit.


cheers

[papangul]

You may be right. I think it's a sign.
Just after I installed Gentoo a couple of months back( using good support from windows hehe..), windows stopped booting. I took it as a sign and haven't used windows since then.
i installed Ubuntu last week after receiving the cds but Ubuntu won't work either 'cause I can't connect to net and I get a lot of "program not responding" messages.
BTW, when I was setting up the gentoo installation my dad would say on a daily basis-"I am giving you (the equivalent of) $100, go get windows. Now that I have completed the setup ie Gentoo with IceWM, he has stopped saying that and seems to be very blissfull while using linux ;-) .

[filemanager]

indeed. Not my mission on this planet, I'm not a preacher or prosilitistic freak. I was just happy and sharing, still am, now I have 30gb more to fill with my .xcf works.

and by the way to me and this is very personal, gnu/linux is far better than windows and I used Microsft products since Windows 3.0 and at the time I loved it, until I started to understand how things worked [or didn't]. It lasted till WinXP.

5 billion people can be wrong at the same time, it wouldn't surprise me a bit.


cheers
That happened to me the same way, I stayed with Windows until XP, when a friend of mine kept saying I should use Linux, so after running a dual boot for ONE DAY Windows messed up my whole computer so I said "so long" and we parted ways.

[nocturn]

Me too. I'm not blind- I see huge usability issues in Ubuntu. Like how hard it is to use ndiswrapper, or what you must go through to get certain "fully supported out of the box" wireless card to scan for networks. Or many other things.


Actually, the claim that Linux is not desktop ready is ridiculous, I have been windows free at home since 1999.
In the recent years, I have had few hardware issues and everything goes quite well.

That is, until I decided to buy a laptop, which can be a huge problem (finding one that will work, that is). The box may say the laptop has ACPI or any other standard, but often they are seriously broken and work with XP alone. Getting Linux to run on it can be hard.

What Linux really needs is support from OEM's, and that is very hard to obtain (nor is the lack of it the community's fault). There are some other areas that can be improved too, like the integration with authentication servers etc.

[nocturn]

You all are only one hundred thousand people to over 5 billion people that actually use windows in legal and non-legal forms. You can't hope to achieve a linux desktop or servers or anything competing against those numbers...

Numbers are not relevant. I don't care how many people use windows or Linux.
Linux can survive with a very small install base, windows can't. My Linux desktop has offered me everything I need for about 6 years now (without dual booting).

5 billion people can easily be wrong. It used to be the case that 99% of the people thought the earth was flat, the few that said it was round were crazy. Yet, round it is.

[Stormy Eyes]

You can't hope to achieve a linux desktop or servers or anything competing against those numbers...

You think I care about the odds? It's always been me against the world, and I've put up a damned good fight.

If you’re gonna die, die with your boots on
If you’re gonna try, just stick around
Gonna cry, just move along
If you’re gonna die, you’re gonna die

[sonny]

Well... at home I only use Ubuntu, and I can do everything I did in windows, I don't miss anything of it. At work I use windows, but I know everything I do there can be done with Linux, so I'm very please with Linux.

[sapo]

Well... at home I only use Ubuntu, and I can do everything I did in windows, I don't miss anything of it. At work I use windows, but I know everything I do there can be done with Linux, so I'm very please with Linux.

i work at home.. so i can use just ubuntu. there's a looooong time that i dont even see a windows desktop :grin:

[sonny]

i work at home.. so i can use just ubuntu. there's a looooong time that i dont even see a windows desktop :grin:
Well you're lucky your boss lets you use Ubuntu :-P , if he doesn't look at the mirror and tell him f*** you. :grin:

[jkndrkn]

I've run the same install of Win Xp since 2002, and I have not had any problems with it. Problems in Windows arise because of failure to install security patches, and poor browsing and downloading habits. True, the holes shouldn't be there to begin with, but the OS is not as functionally terrible as many Linux users claim it to be.

It took me about three days or so to get my dual-boot system working, and I haven't had any problems with it since.

I moved to Linux because I wanted more Unix experience and I wanted a fun personal challenge. I keep Windows because I need to use proprietary software and because my printer is not properly supported in Linux.

[filemanager]

I've run the same install of Win Xp since 2002, and I have not had any problems with it. Problems in Windows arise because of failure to install security patches, and poor browsing and downloading habits. True, the holes shouldn't be there to begin with, but the OS is not as functionally terrible as many Linux users claim it to be.

It took me about three days or so to get my dual-boot system working, and I haven't had any problems with it since.

I moved to Linux because I wanted more Unix experience and I wanted a fun personal challenge. I keep Windows because I need to use proprietary software and because my printer is not properly supported in Linux.
For dual-booting, would you recommend installing Windows first and Linux second, or the other way around?

I know Windows has to be on the 1st partition

[WildTangent]

if you install windows last, your boot loader will be overwritten, so linux must be installed last

-Wild

[filemanager]

if you install windows last, your boot loader will be overwritten, so linux must be installed last

-Wild
That's what I thought. Just checkin' :)

[Big Venus]

I am just curious... Why couldn't you just install ubuntu as the primary and then instead of setting up a dual boot, just use the dchroot or would does that only work for linux and not windows? I am thinking along the terms of like VMWare or the Xen Virtualization of Fedora...

I see why you disagree and somewhat agree with Optimal Aurora thanks.

[Stormy Eyes]

I am just curious... Why couldn't you just install ubuntu as the primary and then instead of setting up a dual boot, just use the dchroot or would does that only work for linux and not windows? I am thinking along the terms of like VMWare or the Xen Virtualization of Fedora

I think he'd be better off running Windows under QEMU, if he has to run Windows at all.

[Big Venus]

I think he'd be better off running Windows under QEMU, if he has to run Windows at all.
Agreed, like I said I was just curious...

[pailhead]

I'm too addicted to HL2 to ditch windows completely but I've had similar problems to this and once windows is reinstalled everything goes back to normal from my experience.

I'm with you I have to keep Windows because of the gaming. BF1942, HL, Doom3, BF2 etc... If only companies would release Linux binaries for the games.. UGH!

[Big Venus]

I'm with you I have to keep Windows because of the gaming. BF1942, HL, Doom3, BF2 etc... If only companies would release Linux binaries for the games.. UGH!
Unreal did for its latest, but I didn't like it in Linux, however, I enjoy it in Windows. And that is one of the only reasons I like Windows (gaming, office namely Access, and the fact that everything works). But I use Linux because it keeps my skills sharp and I can use free c++ compilers and what not stuff.

I prefer Visual Studio but the gcc compilers are pretty nice, especially when you are on an expense account.