Please Linux gamers. Sign this, and maybe get games for linux.

[terrax]

Hello

Please come in and sign up for this, so we can get native linux games:
http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html

Its better doing it, than just complain about the lack of linux support. :-)
Every single signature counts.

[cisforcojo]

Comes up w/ email error for me.

[KIAaze]

As suggested in another thread, buying already existing commercial games for GNU/Linux also helps.
And it will probably have even more effect than a simple online petition.

[Feba]

If online petitions worked, http://www.petitiononline.com/windoze/petition.html windows would be banned, http://www.petitiononline.com/OL4OSX/petition.html outlook would be availble for OSX, http://www.petitiononline.com/1gapr/petition.html gasoline would be much cheaper, http://www.petitiononline.com/Nala1014/petition.html and idiots that didn't know wtf a popup blocker is could live in peace.

But they don't. Seriously, online petitions are meaningless. If you want to have an impact, start a letter writing campaign. With actual letters, envelopes, and postcards, not some ***** little email form. And even then, don't hold your breath.


And really, try to appeal this to more than just blizzard.

[hikaricore]

Seriously, online petitions are meaningless. If you want to have an impact, start a letter writing campaign. With actual letters, envelopes, and postcards, not some ***** little email form. And even then, don't hold your breath.

[withdrawn by hikaricore]

[Feba]

That people keep acting like online petitions actually do something?

[hikaricore]

That people keep acting like online petitions actually do something?

If you don't like what we're doing, you can politely keep it to yourself. There's already mention in the main thread for this petition (which was started in this forum) about actually mailing the companies in charge of production and release of said games. Some of us have already sent actual letters, and even if the petition doesn't result in anything itself, it's influence on the linux users who see 5000 signatures might just be enough to get them to send real mail as well. Personally I don't care if you're jaded, but please eep the negativity off the forums.

[rjwboys]

If you don't like what we're doing, you can politely keep it to yourself. There's already mention in the main thread for this petition (which was started in this forum) about actually mailing the companies in charge of production and release of said games. Some of us have already sent actual letters, and even if the petition doesn't result in anything itself, it's influence on the linux users who see 5000 signatures might just be enough to get them to send real mail as well. Personally I don't care if you're jaded, but please eep the negativity off the forums.

:popcorn::guitar::popcorn:
you go man

[Feba]

You call it negativity, I call it realism.

[hikaricore]

You call it negativity, I call it realism.

I'm not going to have a flame war on here and make this silliness any worse.
Just be aware that a bad attitude can spread to others and is generally harmful to the community.

The next comment you make I guarantee you get to keep the last word.

I wish you well.

--Aaron :: UGA

[JC_510]

Im no. 5869 :D

Nice one.

[jdunn]

#5981

[cisforcojo]

HOW ARE YOU PEOPLE SIGNING THIS!?!?!

Every time I've tried I get a "There has been an error with your e-mail" error or something.

EDIT: While I fully support the petition and what everyone is doing, I, like several others, don't think this is the best method. Sending actual letters is much better but even better is the question that I haven't seen asked.
"What will it take for you to provide a Linux port????" I'm ABSOLUTELY sure that they have a number defined (probably in marketshare) and when the Linux community hits that number, they MAY act upon it. I'm not sure how big GAMING is in the linux community, I only know that it's growing. The other issue is that they will likely withhold that number. It -might- give away a competitive advantage. But hey, worth trying.

[Makilaz]

Worked perfectly for me the first time I tried. Register a new email with yahoo or hotmail or something and try again.

[tocleora]

As suggested in another thread, buying already existing commercial games for GNU/Linux also helps.

I would very much do this, in fact, I would love to see a category in this forum that's only about games made *for* linux. It seems this category in general is usually about playing windows games in linux, and I'd rather not support windows games anymore than I have to. I know there are web sites out there but I'd like something that presented actual commercial quality games just for linux out there. I would be more than happy to spend my money 100% on linux related items to support the cause. anything like that out there?

[EdThaSlayer]

What about we team up and pay a developer lets say, 1 million dollars to port a game that we all like. Since we are paying them and then also buying their Linux games, they will get a lot of profits. That's the only way that we can get their attention, signing a petition won't really do much since the main goal of the game developers/publishers is to make money. In short, signatures won't change their minds, only money will.Welcome to capitalism people.

[paparappa]

Yeah but If they realised there was a profit in Linux Gaming they'd create games for linux. Wich is why people should support commercial linux games and buy them so other companies realise there is a profit even in Linux.

[EdThaSlayer]

Yeah but If they realised there was a profit in Linux Gaming they'd create games for linux. Wich is why people should support commercial linux games and buy them so other companies realise there is a profit even in Linux.

I agree with you 100%. Buy Linux people, BUY the native linux games! :popcorn:

[Feba]

We have to walk a careful line though and not buy games JUST BECAUSE they're linux- otherwise companies will realize they can just dump **** on us and we'll eat it up, in hopes of our market growing- and then all we get is a bunch of those cheap 10$ games you see at walmart, that we already have for free, but we'll pay for just to attempt to increase linux games.

[KIAaze]

I would very much do this, in fact, I would love to see a category in this forum that's only about games made *for* linux. It seems this category in general is usually about playing windows games in linux, and I'd rather not support windows games anymore than I have to. I know there are web sites out there but I'd like something that presented actual commercial quality games just for linux out there. I would be more than happy to spend my money 100% on linux related items to support the cause. anything like that out there?

Well, here are some sites to start with:
http://www.tuxgames.com/
http://www.linuxgames.com/?dataloc=reviews/

We have to walk a careful line though and not buy games JUST BECAUSE they're linux- otherwise companies will realize they can just dump **** on us and we'll eat it up, in hopes of our market growing- and then all we get is a bunch of those cheap 10$ games you see at walmart, that we already have for free, but we'll pay for just to attempt to increase linux games.

Well, that is true. But if the game companies bring out good "old" games for GNU/Linux I woud probably buy them if I have never played them before (or if I played with a cracked version (what I did with starcraft and then I bought it :) )).
There are a lot of good games that are becoming abamdonware. Unfortunately, they are only available for Windows most of the time.
Instead game companies should sell them as GNU/Linux versions.

I mean look at what nintendo is doing with the Wii: They sell good old games!
Good games are timeless.

[ZephyrXero]

Hey guys... I just resubmitted this to Digg since the original one never made it to the front page :/

Let's see if we can get this dugg alot today and see if we can break 10,000 signatures hopefully!

http://digg.com/pc_games/Tell_Blizzard_We_Want_A_Native_Port_of_Starcraft_2 _For_Linux

[rajeev1204]

Ok sorry to add this but .........

Petitions online lol ... One of the internet's crazy ideas which serves no purpose at all .

Why dont we start a linux gaming fund and start giving money to linux game devels instead of meaningless things like online petitions ? But as we all know , a company called loki went bust due to various reasons and that will reflect poorly on the state of linux gaming .

I will surely contribute to a similar project like loki and i think we should give this another try .

In fact maybe i could start a company in india if i could get actual figures about money to be made by porting . But where are the statistics ?


And hikaricore u dont have to get angry like this because the actual efficacy of the petitions online project is not very clear .

For example , i only heard of this thing a few months ago through these forums .


Time to get real folks .



regards

rajeev

[tocleora]

I remember when online petitions first popped up on the Internet and we realized fairly quickly that they did no good. I've heard of hundreds of online petitions and I've never heard of one succeeding. Not trying to intentioanlly rain on anyone's parade, I'm open to getting companies to help, I just don't think this is going to do it, I agree with others who've said that. I think the best ones are when you fill out your name and contact information and it gives you a pre-written letter to either e-mail to the company (which it can do directly) or to print out and mail to the company. You have to understand in most online petitions (I haven't looked at this one) it's usually just a name or an e-mail address. anyone can type those in so it's hard to take those seriously. In fact, I want to say that only in rare conditions do real petitions work, am I right? I don't think we could go to blizzard any easier with a real petition and get any better results.

I love the idea of porting older games to Linux, I think companies might jump on that. And I love the idea of investing in another company similar to Loki. Since Loki was already doing a good job, what do y'all think the possibilities are for those people to start up again? It's very possible the state of Linux back then aided in their failure. I think with the success of Ubuntu it might actually work this time...

[Lucifiel]

I don't see the point in signing an online petition. Games will have more support for Linux only when there is healthy and sustainable demand for it and if fulfilling that demand is worthwhile in terms of monetary and other efforts.

Suffice to say, this is an issue that will only resolve when more consumers learn about Linux and only if more hardcore gamers move towards using Linux.

[hikaricore]

And hikaricore u dont have to get angry like this because the actual efficacy of the petitions online project is not very clear .


Anyway... I'm not getting angry, I'm just really getting tired of folks like the first naysayer telling everyone what is and isn't worth their time. Seriously, a lot of people don't think an online petition is worth the effort; I've already listed my reasoning behind why I think it is, so there's no point in repeating myself. However the point I want to make very clear is that it is up to community members to decide for themselves... telling people not to bother makes you look arrogant.

[Virion]

I'm #13129 :)

[TidusBlade]

Hope it really does something :)
Anyone submitted this to Digg or somewhere else?

[Cannaregio]

I also doubt that online petitions can have any effect whatsoever.
But I wish, nevertheless, to give a positive contribute to this discussion:

Here follows my take, for what it is worth:
We should all spend some time (not much, say one sunday afternoon every while) to try to run our most favourites games in wine (or vmware).
I realized that it IS a question of perseverance, patience, and effort.
Wine is getting better and better with every new version, and I'm getting better and better in using wine.
Conclusion: applications (and games) that DID NOT WORK last year, now work. Other applications and games don't work YET, but I'm sure I'll manage it soon or later :-)

Of course we all would prefer native GNU/Linux good games, but as others pointed out this wont happen until we have a critical mass that will convince the games programmers that it is worth porting games to GNU/Linux.

In order to have such a critical mass, we need showing people that they can actually play GOOD games in Linux, and this will happen through wine or vmware at the moment, not through native GNU/Linux games (in fact with good games I don't mean the crap at http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549, I mean real good games, the only passable one in native linux I found is neverwinternights (http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/linuxclient.html), which is a fantastic game by all means, but, frankly, quite old nowadays).

So: my contributions so far?
I managed to run a 2005 very nice train simulation: Train driver (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/sim/traindriver/index.html) under wine a couple of weeks ago.
Time invested: one sunday afternoon.
I'm trying now the "combat mission" CMBB and CMAK games (not working yet).
I managed both poser 6 and poser 7 under wine two months ago (not games, but jolly interesting applications nevertheless).

Next sunday I'll try a good MODERN chess game.

If we all would experiment with wine a little more, we would maybe manage to have a longer list of good games (http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=rpg) that can run in GNU/Linux.

"Probieren geht über studieren", say the Germans, and they maybe even right in this case.

[Frem]

I've already signed at least 3 different petitions for Blizzard to pay attention to Linux gamers. I'm pretty sure they know we exist.
World of Warcraf had a fully functional Linux client way back in beta.
Every Blizzard game since StarCraft has had an "-opengl" flag. This is a helps a ton with Wine compatibility.

I'll be extremely surprised if StarCraft II isn't running in Wine within two weeks of release. Really, Blizzard isn't the developer we need to be nagging about this. They may not make native Linux stuff, but they have a track record (with the possible exception of WoW) of making stuff that works quite decently in Wine.

[cudaman73]

#13147

[Ferrat]

Online petitions in general don't do much this is true but that doesn't make them useless, it's a way to see the amount of people that have the same goals.

But I think the petitions need to take it one step further, actually creating a lobby group that target games for Linux, asking for GPL or Open Source wont get many game publishers to turn to linux but a lobby group collecting funds and funding games and having a active having contact with developers and publishers.

Money is the name of the game, simple as that and for ex. a lobby group that sponsors development of games with the support of 10, 20, 30'000 gamers behind them swing a deacent club and behind that you could probably get companies like ATi, nVIDIA and others that have a similar intreset in bringing gaming to Linux.