Will Mandriva developers migrate to PCLOS?

[ThinkBuntu]

Similar to how Debian developers have been migrating to Ubuntu, I think that Mandriva developers may soon defect to the rising PCLinuxOS. Very recently, four long-term contract employees who maintain very important packages were laid off by Mandriva (http://artipc10.vub.ac.be/serendipity/archives/24-More-community-less-employees....html). Add this to PCLOS moving to #1 over the past month on DW (I'm fairly certain that this will happen within the week. Look at the numbers), and having its first full-fledged release yesterday, and things are certainly looking up for the PCLOS team.

[SunnyRabbiera]

Uh huh, PClinux is a great distro and I think it definately will make its mark soon.

[Adamant1988]

Similar to how Debian developers have been migrating to Ubuntu, I think that Mandriva developers may soon defect to the rising PCLinuxOS. Very recently, four long-term contract employees who maintain very important packages were laid off by Mandriva (http://artipc10.vub.ac.be/serendipity/archives/24-More-community-less-employees....html). Add this to PCLOS moving to #1 over the past month on DW (I'm fairly certain that this will happen within the week. Look at the numbers), and having its first full-fledged release yesterday, and things are certainly looking up for the PCLOS team.

Mandriva is a failing company, it has reached the point where it's not sustainable any longer and the people involved are getting desperate to revive it. But they won't fix any GLARING errors in the software so that they can improve it any... urpmi needs to go the way of the dodo, better believe it. I doubt the developers will migrate to PCLinuxOS, but rather somewhere else where they can actually get paid. PCLinuxOS doesn't look like it's wracking in any profits per-say.

[igknighted]

Mandriva is a failing company, it has reached the point where it's not sustainable any longer and the people involved are getting desperate to revive it. But they won't fix any GLARING errors in the software so that they can improve it any... urpmi needs to go the way of the dodo, better believe it. I doubt the developers will migrate to PCLinuxOS, but rather somewhere else where they can actually get paid. PCLinuxOS doesn't look like it's wracking in any profits per-say.

Neither is Ubuntu, but we're still attracting devs. People want PCLOS right now and they don't want Mandriva. Ergo, like Ubuntu, PCLOS could very well become profitable should texstar and other in charge wish it.

[justin whitaker]

It's not like Texstar, Ripper, and company could not use the help. Doubling the number of applications in the repos would really be a good place to start for them....not that I really saw anything glaring missing, but apparently size matters to some people. :D

[ThinkBuntu]

Neither is Ubuntu, but we're still attracting devs. People want PCLOS right now and they don't want Mandriva. Ergo, like Ubuntu, PCLOS could very well become profitable should texstar and other in charge wish it.
PCLOS is now #1 over the past 7 and 30 days on Distrowatch. I think we'll see it grab the 3 Months too before Gutsy goes Alpha, certainly before it goes Beta.

[n8ek]

I use Mandriva And have just tried PCLinux and think its very good, would i be better of dropping Mandriva and using PCLinux instead after reading the above post's?

[igknighted]

I use Mandriva And have just tried PCLinux and think its very good, would i be better of dropping Mandriva and using PCLinux instead after reading the above post's?

Oh no, Mandriva wont go anywhere. Its more up to date and if you like it by all means stick with it, its a great distro. PCLOS is also really good, so there is no wrong choice. I see Mandriva/PCLOS ending up like Debian/Ubuntu. Mandriva does lots of the base work, and PCLOS polishes it up. But lots of people still use Debian, so theres no reason to bail on Mandriva.

[n8ek]

looks like i will look into trying to resize my hd to dual boot them both without damaging my Mandriva install.

[Extreme Coder]

Why would they need to? Mandriva's developers are paid, they wouldn't jump to a free project if they sense that the project they're working on is decreasing in quality. Even if Mandriva is destroyed, I doubt that much of them will go to PCLOS or any other distro. Most probably they'll just go look for another job :)
And, I tried 2007 Spring, and it's pretty good(they fired some management guy after 2007, and somehow the distro improved a lot at the last release) but that said, I will stilll see how much they improve on 2008.

Extreme Coder

[arctic]

What ridiculous discussion... Before you post nonsense, you should perhaps check all of Mandrivas history, where they concentrate on, whose developer-contracts were not renewed for what reasons. I find it amazing that people believe that developers get lifetime contracts. Mandriva is a business, not a charity organisation. Sure they make dumb moves now and then, but they are far away from becoming irrelevant.

And anyone of you who takes distrowatch page-hit rankings as an indicator on the wellbeing of a distro, should remember that Distrowatch can only show how many clicks a page has been receiving from distrowatch readers. The number of distrowatch readers is way below the actual number of linux users. Thus, the rankings are irrelevant and useless for your argumentations.

[ThinkBuntu]

What ridiculous discussion... Before you post nonsense, you should perhaps check all of Mandrivas history, where they concentrate on, whose developer-contracts were not renewed for what reasons. I find it amazing that people believe that developers get lifetime contracts. Mandriva is a business, not a charity organisation. Sure they make dumb moves now and then, but they are far away from becoming irrelevant.

And anyone of you who takes distrowatch page-hit rankings as an indicator on the wellbeing of a distro, should remember that Distrowatch can only show how many clicks a page has been receiving from distrowatch readers. The number of distrowatch readers is way below the actual number of linux users. Thus, the rankings are irrelevant and useless for your argumentations.
1) Please, not another tired explanation of how unimportant Distrowatch's stats are. Nobody believes they reflect popularity and userbases 100%, but they certainly do have some correlation with these things.

2) There are people who contribute to Mandriva for free. Likewise, these devs maintain important packages, and I wouldn't be surprised if they continued maintaining some of them, but possible with PCLOS instead. Also, there's no clear line dividing devs who are paid for their work and who do it for free. I think that most developers who are unpaid have full-time development jobs, and do their work related to Linux (or their distribution of choice) on the side.

[Adamant1988]

Neither is Ubuntu, but we're still attracting devs. People want PCLOS right now and they don't want Mandriva. Ergo, like Ubuntu, PCLOS could very well become profitable should texstar and other in charge wish it.

We're either paying Devs or those devs are volunteer and can potentially 'get hit by a bus' at any moment.