Request: Portage

[duffman9908]

I tried compiling Portage myself, however it is unstable and doesn't work. If somebody could make a Portage Deb package that would be great.

[Mez]

o_O

Portage = Gentoo right?

This sint gentoo - and i dont think portage and apt would work well together.

Plus, not in debain, not in breezy.... no backport :D

Speak to the MOTU

[mattheweast]

Fun idea, but Mez is right, this is the wrong section of the forum: portage can't be backported, because it is not present in Ubuntu. The MOTU would not take it on, this is a project for someone to do just for a laugh. Would be interested in knowing how it goes though!

M

[chol]

When debian already has apt-build, why would one even need portage?
I'd suggest putting some time into streamlinging this and all gentoo zealots and other compiling lovers would perhaps be pleased :)

c

[jdong]

Isn't Portage also the name of a file manager?

[mattheweast]

AFAIK it is a package manager, which ships with gentoo.

There is a file manager called Gentoo (http://www.obsession.se/gentoo/), perhaps that is what you are thinking of?

[duffman9908]

I was just thinking that if Ubuntu had the ability to install through apt-get, alien, and portage. There would be no need to look anywhere else for a Linux that "just works"

[sjmorgan]

I was just thinking that if Ubuntu had the ability to install through apt-get, alien, and portage. There would be no need to look anywhere else for a Linux that "just works"A GNU/Linux distribution is more than just a package manager.

Diversity and choice are good.

[obiwan]

I would use portage in ubuntu to have access to java libraries and keep them up to date.

[jdong]

Funny thing... I've attempted to port Portage over to Debian, but it was a flop... What a gargantuan mess Portage is! Even in Python, it's not modularized enough that ebuild subsystems can be substituted with apt/dpkg equivalents without ripping code apart everywhere!

[wantilles]

A GNU/Linux distribution is more than just a package manager.

Really?

The package management system of a distribution is the most important part of it.

Diversity and choice are good.

What "choice"?

In comparison to Gentoo, who is instantly & constantly updated and there are no versions, Ubuntu is standing still.

For example, Firefox 1.0.5 was released yesterday.

Today, it is in Portage and a simple:

emerge -pv --newuse --columns mozilla-firefox

will install it, fully optimized for my architecture & sub-architecture.

In comparison, in Ubuntu what do we get?

We will get Firefox 1.0.5 after SIX MONTHS with the next release.

And please, do not bother to mention "the backports". They are just a pathetic excuse.

If you want to give life to this static, asthmatic & paleolithic distribution:

- "aggressive" package building of new software not just backports
- new software not only for x86 but also for amd64

[Kyral]

Then go use Gentoo. No one is stopping you. Linux is all about choices. If you don't like A you can use B.

[mr_pouit]

Really?

The package management system of a distribution is the most important part of it.



What "choice"?

In comparison to Gentoo, who is instantly & constantly updated and there are no versions, Ubuntu is standing still.

For example, Firefox 1.0.5 was released yesterday.

Today, it is in Portage and a simple:

emerge -pv --newuse --columns mozilla-firefox

will install it, fully optimized for my architecture & sub-architecture.

In comparison, in Ubuntu what do we get?

We will get Firefox 1.0.5 after SIX MONTHS with the next release.

And please, do not bother to mention "the backports". They are just a pathetic excuse.

If you want to give life to this static, asthmatic & paleolithic distribution:

- "aggressive" package building of new software not just backports
- new software not only for x86 but also for amd64
:roll:
i was using gentoo before, and :
- i don't have anymore the time to install/update gentoo : waiting a couple of hours a prog to be build.... :/
- IMHO, gentoo's gain of performances is "mainly a dream" : my pc is as fast as it was under gentoo...
- if you don't like ubuntu, why posting here, so aggressively ? everyone has the choice to use the GNU/Linux distribution he wants to !

and do you think you have the right to judge a distribution like this ? do you have a superiority complex ? :-)

Indeed, that's not the topic, but you got on my nerves, especially by using bold as you did :|

[DJ_Max]

What a gargantuan mess Portage is! Even in Python, it's not modularized enough that ebuild subsystems can be substituted with apt/dpkg equivalents without ripping code apart everywhere!
It wasn't meant to be, and for good reasons. It does however run on OS X. With that said, you want Portage you have to use Gentoo, or even better, try a BSD, as Gentoo was based on BSD, but still has some of the Linux shortcomings.

[jdong]

Really?

The package management system of a distribution is the most important part of it.



What "choice"?

In comparison to Gentoo, who is instantly & constantly updated and there are no versions, Ubuntu is standing still.

For example, Firefox 1.0.5 was released yesterday.

Today, it is in Portage and a simple:

emerge -pv --newuse --columns mozilla-firefox

will install it, fully optimized for my architecture & sub-architecture.

In comparison, in Ubuntu what do we get?

We will get Firefox 1.0.5 after SIX MONTHS with the next release.

And please, do not bother to mention "the backports". They are just a pathetic excuse.

If you want to give life to this static, asthmatic & paleolithic distribution:

- "aggressive" package building of new software not just backports
- new software not only for x86 but also for amd64

The rapid development of Gentoo leads to MANY downfalls. Stability is the biggest one.

I've been FIRED from a LAMP admin job because of Gentoo (MySQL security update hosed libmsql.so)... These kinds of mistakes are UNACCEPTABLE in an enterprise-class distribution.

If you like Portage, GO USE IT. There are PLENTY of how-to's for using Portage on other distributions...

This is NOT a backports topic. Period.