no load on two Dell laptops

[woodsmoke]

Hi

this is probably a "target audience" decision on the part of the folks who forked the distro off from the main branch...

One has to decide what will be "included" and "not included"...

I'm just a "hardware kinda guy"....so i first try to load a distro on a coupla of old laptops...both Dells, if one can't load on a Dell then the chances on other old laptops are kinda slim

Both of these are PII machines

A Dell Inspiron 7000 was no go at all...

A Dell CPi was reasonably a go until I got this message:

[133.276000] buffer I/O error on device FD0, logical block 0

what this means is something like it didn't recognize the HD...

On the Inspiron, all that is on it is a Win2K partition

On the Dell CPi, there is a Win 2K partition AND a partition of another Linux Distro...

In other words the Dell CPi WILL load a Linux distro and the partiton is already formatted to Reiser.

So..... this is the same problem I've had with Ubuntu Feisty when it first came out...

Just as an aside, I posted at my "normal" forum about the CE of Ubuntu and a fellow, who I trust, came back with that the "previous" edition was..."buggy"....

so....

REMEMBER folks, I'm all FOR this distro....

But...as far as "older" laptops are concerned, this is a situation which should be at least considered...

It's WAAAAYYYY past my beddy by time so I'm gonna head off for slumberland...it's 1:46 in the A.M. in my neck o' the woods....

however, I'll try an install on a newer machine in the manana....with the tilde... :lol:

and I fully expect that it WILL install....

It is just that the folks who decide what things to include in the distro can use this in further decisions....

I myself, think, that the "target audience" probably will NOT have this old of a set of machines.... I rather imagine that the "target audience" will probably have newer machines...

Anyhow... I'm greatly looking forward to the install tomorrow! :lol:

woodsmoke

[Tru]

Well, not sure what to say about it not installing on your older laptops.:( But I just installed it on a second hard drive on my main computer and the install went perfectly and I was a little concerned about my USB wireless card. My machine is a P4 3.2GHz, Gigabyte Mobo, Nvidia 6800, USB Linksys wireless 54g ver.4 wireless and a Hercules sound card and all went well. I am surprised about it not installing on your older hardware as that is usually easier to install on then newer and USB related hardware.

I must say, Jereme is a great man for taking the time to put this distro together for the Christian community! I have been using Linux for several years now and have come to love Ubuntu as my main distro over SuSe and Fedora, and now to have a Christian based version I am so excited!!! On top of that the work he put in to getting E-Sword working is awesome!!! In my opinion E-Sword is by far the best free Bible study software out there, and the module manager is sweet. Just the other day I was installing it on a windows machine and was wishing that windows had a module manager. It takes forever to go thru all the books and download then install each one. Where, with the module manager it is so easy to just click one button and its downloaded and installed for you.

[mhancoc7]

@woodsmoke

Have you tried to install the default Ubuntu on the laptops? If so did it work? If not then maybe you could give it a try to be sure this is a CE thing and not an Ubuntu thing.

@Tru

Thanks for you kind words. I am glad that you are enjoying e-Sword and the Module Manager. I was really excited about getting that working as well.

God Bless, Jereme

[woodsmoke]

success on a Sempron 2200 mhz!

And.... to throw into the mix ....the situation that I was looking at the CE site......... as a couple of my students were walking by.......... and now there are two new...."converts" :lol: to CE Ubuntu!

Thanks for your comments folks....

by and large, I think that many of the problems with Linux in general, since Microsith offloads all this stuff onto the hardware people, video card drivers, sound card drivers... wireless drivers....

is that the problems are somewhat a function of "horsepower"... the "early Linuxii" strove for compatability with older smaller systems... the increased RAM, the faster processors, have now possibly, given an edge to linux because the various distros can now take on more "bloat"... while Microsith is still offloading a lot of this work to the OEM people...

Anyhow...what I did was install the main Ubuntu and then installed CE after it...

and it runs like a charm... I'll try the wireless card in a day or so...

this is kind of a "test" machine... a Linux of any type should be able to load and run on it... but I hadn't gotten into wireless until the last few months...

The two students were rather astounded that there is a "Christian" anything out there and the really HILARIOUS thing is that a kid in the black baggies with piercings and multicolor hair said that if I said it was so then it was so...and that Linux rocks! :lol:

Soooo....if it won't be too much of a waste of server space I'll post my trials and tribulations in a thread properly titled so that a new person, I detest "newbie"... can find it easily and see that the thing does install...

but the SLLLoooooowwww install is something that should be on the front burner to recitfy...

The main Ubuntu install in a "normal time"...but CE ... over an hour and more...now that may have been because of the Bible passages and the extra tool bar on FF but... I wouldn't think so...

anyhow....this is a keeper as far as I'm concerned...:lol:

woodsmoke

[Tru]

I am surprised it installed slow. My Ubuntu CE 3.0 installed in less than 30 minutes on my main computer and in some virtuals to. I find it installs much faster than Windows does and being an IT guy I have had to format/reload hundreds of PC's.

[mysticrider92]

I don't think any P2 is fast enough to run a full featured Linux distro not meant for that hardware. XUbuntu and Fluxbuntu would both run fine on that, but the Gnome desktop and other things in Ubuntu itself are way to heavy. My dad has a Dell SmartStep 200n with a P4 and 256mb of ram that will run Ubuntu 6.06 CE fairly well (I still don't have him convinced that Edgy and Feisty are better than Dapper).

I think Ubuntu CE should run fine on a P3 or equivlent with about 128mb of ram if you use the alternate install cd (mostly as a precaution, I have had the Ubuntu installer crash before).