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Gnobody
June 23rd, 2005, 07:17 PM
We need initNG! This will half our boot times!! :razz:


Click Me! (http://gentoo-wiki.com/Initng)

Burgundavia
June 23rd, 2005, 07:57 PM
Ok, there are 2 things wrong with this. (Well maybe there are more)

1. Backports are not the place to ask for such low level stuff
2. Init-ng is seriously untested, and maybe considered for Breezy+1
3. Breezy does not have init-ng

Corey

jdong
June 23rd, 2005, 09:29 PM
Corey, that's 3 ;) LOL

What he said. I've installed initng on a test machine before... In its current state, it's more of a Gentoo toy than anything else... Supporting initng will require a complete rewrite of all init scripts on the system.. not something I can do... heck not something Ubuntu can do for quite a while.

8FootSativa
June 25th, 2005, 11:23 AM
There are Debian packages for InitNG...I've wanted to try it but I'm worried it will bork things.

http://forum.initng.thinktux.net/viewtopic.php?t=29

Burgundavia
June 25th, 2005, 03:47 PM
InitNG requires a whole lot of changes, at a very low level. That is not the kind of thing I would undertake unless you know the boot sequence forward and backward.

Corey

AndersAA
June 25th, 2005, 05:31 PM
InitNG requires a whole lot of changes, at a very low level. That is not the kind of thing I would undertake unless you know the boot sequence forward and backward.

Corey

What he said. I've installed initng on a test machine before... In its current state, it's more of a Gentoo toy than anything else... Supporting initng will require a complete rewrite of all init scripts on the system.. not something I can do... heck not something Ubuntu can do for quite a while.

current svn (and the latest version) should boot an ubuntu system without any modification needed to any scripts. (I'm neuron, one of the ubuntu dev's)

8FootSativa
June 25th, 2005, 06:31 PM
current svn (and the latest version) should boot an ubuntu system without any modification needed to any scripts. (I'm neuron, one of the ubuntu dev's)

So I can just install the .deb and boot using InitNG? No changing Grub or anything? I'd like to try it on my Kubuntu box...

AndersAA
June 25th, 2005, 06:58 PM
So I can just install the .deb and boot using InitNG? No changing Grub or anything? I'd like to try it on my Kubuntu box...

you will have to modify grub manually

8FootSativa
June 25th, 2005, 07:01 PM
you will have to modify grub manually

O-tay. :)

Gnobody
June 25th, 2005, 10:04 PM
I get a bunch of errors on boot and I get "failed to initialize HAL daemon" when I log in to Gnome. This is with the latest SVN build of InitNG.

tristan
June 26th, 2005, 02:13 AM
I had a play with v0.1.3 of initNG and while it did speed up boot times a bit (not dramatically), I also had the dbus/hald problem which prevents gnome-volume-manager from working (ie no removable media automounting).

Looks like promising software, but I think it might be a bit immature to replace init on the next release of ubuntu....

AndersAA
June 26th, 2005, 09:16 AM
I get a bunch of errors on boot and I get "failed to initialize HAL daemon" when I log in to Gnome. This is with the latest SVN build of InitNG.

"bunch of errors on boot" doesn't really tell me much...

I had a play with v0.1.3 of initNG and while it did speed up boot times a bit (not dramatically), I also had the dbus/hald problem which prevents gnome-volume-manager from working (ie no removable media automounting).

Looks like promising software, but I think it might be a bit immature to replace init on the next release of ubuntu....

should be fixed in svn atleast.


and it's defenatly not ready to replace sysvinit

kamstrup
June 26th, 2005, 10:59 AM
I get a bunch of errors on boot and I get "failed to initialize HAL daemon" when I log in to Gnome. This is with the latest SVN build of InitNG.
Same here. But it *almost* works :D It is very fast indeed, but it doesn't work after I reboot. - Have to reboot with ordinary init to get it working again.

I totally agree with the backporters. This is not exactly backport material...