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christooss
June 19th, 2005, 07:24 PM
I found this guide (http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html) little outdated. So I will try to write my own. My interpretation of formmer howto.

0.1 AUTOMATE SCRIPT

I made a automate script for this howto. Script is based on Automate Script for New Users (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646)

1. Installing everything
1.1 Hoary
I imagine that you have Hoary CD already in your CD unit. Reboot computer and when installation screen shows, write server and then press <return>

Go through whole installation process. And when you find yourself in console login and then write

$ wget http://ahacic.5gigs.com/miniram.sh
$ sudo sh miniram.sh

When whole proces is done you have all programs listed in this howto installed.

1.2 Breezy

$ wget http://ahacic.5gigs.com/miniram-breezy.sh
$ sudo sh miniram-breezy.sh

Warning :)

Breezy automate script doesnt install w32codecs! You can install them with enabling marillat repositories which are in my sources.list which you downloaded with automate script. When you removed # at line with marillat. Type

$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get install w32codecs

After that you can remove marillat repostiories from sources.list
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0.2 MANUAL INSTALLATION

If yoo want to install without script this is how you do it :)

1. Install WM

I imagine that you have Hoary CD already in your CD unit. Reboot computer and when installation screen shows, write server and then press <return>

Go through whole installation process. And when you find yourself in console login and then write

$ sudo su -
This will put you in permanent sudo sudo status. So you don't have to write sudo over and over again.

1.2 Adding extra repositories

write

# wget http://ahacic.5gigs.com/sources.list
# cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
# cp sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
# apt-get update
# apt-get upgrade
1.3 Next step to install x.org
# apt-get install x-window-system-core
This will install you X server X.org in Ubuntu. Then you have to install Window Manager. I prefer ICEWM But you can choose any of the WM-s. you have got plany listed at this link (http://xwinman.org/)
# apt-get install icewm
Now we have to install wdm llogin manager.
# apt-get install wdm

You can still choose to install xdm with:
# apt-get install xdm
Now we have working enviroment but with no GUI application. You can now login with command
# wdm
2. Application install.

2.1 We need terminal
# apt-get install xterm
2.2 File manager tool
text based
# apt-get install mc
Gui based
# apt-get install emelfm
2.3.2 GUI Internet browser and mail client
With mozzila you get them both together
# apt-get install mozilla
if you want realy something fast instal Dillo browser and Sylpheed mail client
# apt-get install dillo
#apt-get install sylpheed
Now opera is free of charge you can DL it at
http://opera.com/free/

2.3.2 Text based browser and mail client
For browser you can use lynx
# apt-get install lynx
and for mail client you can use mutt+procmail+fetchmail+gnupg
You can find tutorial howto setup this thing at this link (http://wiki.sourcemage.org/index.php?page=HOWTO-Setup+mutt%2Bprocmail%2Bfetchmail%2Bgnupg)
Another page about Mutt. Click at this link :) (http://www.mutt.blackfish.org.uk/)
2.4 Text editing tool
# apt-get install nedit
# apt-get install abiword
Nedit is gedit replacement and abiword replaces OpenOffice Writer.

Please DON'T USE OPENOFFICE [-X

Why? Beacause it takes to god thamn long to start

2.5 Spreadsheet editor
# apt-get install gnumeric
Replacement for OOo Spredsheet

2.6 CD burner
# apt-get install graveman
I use mkisofs and cdrecord - These two are already installed on Ubuntu server
On this Link (http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-cdburn.html) you can find howto burn with mkisofs and cdrecord.
Anyway this is it. We have complete system installed

2.7 Multimedia
You are missing media players aren't you. Please read www.ubuntuguide.org for installing other applications. But I don't recommend you to install anything else on low-ram system. But its you choice. If you must install media players Install xmms and xine
# apt-get install beep-media-player xine-ui
and codecs
# apt-get install w32codecs
2.8 Gaim
It has IRC MSN Jabber etc. support
# apt-get install gaim
2.9 FTP
# apt-get install gftp
2.10 PDF reader
# apt-get install xpdf
If I missed something or if I made a mistake let me know.
2.11 Bittorrent client
# apt-get install bittornado
If you want GUI
# apt-get install bittornado-gui
I hope this howto helped you.

Sorry for my bad english ](*,)

poofyhairguy
June 19th, 2005, 07:27 PM
I would use regular Mozilla over epiphany. Epiphany is the "official" browser of Gnome, so I bet it installs Gnome stuff.

christooss
June 19th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Yes I changed that. I found that epiphany demands mozilla firefox installed :roll:

About GNOME: If you install abiword you get gnome libs installed. So if there is an alternative....

poofyhairguy
June 19th, 2005, 08:21 PM
Yes I changed that. I found that epiphany demands mozilla firefox installed :roll:

About GNOME: If you install abiword you get gnome libs installed. So if there is an alternative....

gnumeric too. They are part of the "Gnome Office"

I guess the way around it is a lighter editor (leafpad) or a heavier one (openoffice).

Kyral
June 19th, 2005, 08:28 PM
It strikes me that this method could also be used for a "Gentoo Style" install (installing only the packages YOU want, total customization) without having to go through Stages or compiling

christooss
June 19th, 2005, 08:34 PM
Hm I rather see gnome libs on my comp than installing OOo on miniram system.

It "scares" me that mozilla-firefox and OOo need a ubuntu-desktop package

poofyhairguy
June 19th, 2005, 08:47 PM
Hm I rather see gnome libs on my comp than installing OOo on miniram system.


How light is koffice?

christooss
June 19th, 2005, 08:51 PM
I think this is not an option beacause it installs kdelibs.

christooss
June 19th, 2005, 08:57 PM
116MB of Hardisc. That light :) Sorry but i don't know how much Gnome office takes. Beacause default Ubuntu system has some of the libaries installed. I think its the same size. But we dont need sql base installed or do we?

spacemonkey
June 20th, 2005, 02:28 AM
I'm trying to use this install method to setup Ubuntu on an old PII server I've got lying around, and I've run into some problems. I installed x-window-system-core, then fluxbox, then xdm, as suggested, but when I try to log in using xdm, it says there are no window managers found....something about /home/user/.Xsessions. I went ahead and installed xterm, then when I logged in using xdm, it just went to xterm, no window manager though. From there I can start fluxbox, by typing it in the xterm, but it still won't start right into it from xdm. Any suggestions?

EDIT:
Nevermind...I fixed it. I just added a .xsessions file in my home dir, and in it a put "fluxbox" in it, now logging in via xdm results in fluxbox starting.

mulperi
June 20th, 2005, 04:17 PM
I use Graveman as CD/DVD writer. It has enough options like overburning but doesn't use the KDE libraries. Try it and tell me what you like.

//mulperi

xalphas
June 20th, 2005, 04:34 PM
Graveman is really better. I like to use it. Simple with overburn feature.

If we don't think too light or mini we can use xfce4 instead fluxbox. 14-15 mb and better gui options. Or maybe a rox desktop only without xfce but how?

Gaim stands alone with only gaim-data dependency.
Emelfm and MC for file manager tools.

christooss
June 20th, 2005, 04:46 PM
I added gaim, emelfm, mc and graveman

Thanks

Yes xfce is slightly havier :)

xalphas
June 20th, 2005, 04:54 PM
And also for mp3 player. When i look at xmms it takes 6132 kb and beep-media-player 3801 kb with same dependency. Also uses gtk2 not bad looking as xmms.

Terminal ftp or Gftp. Gftp comes with no dependency and takes around 3500 kb.

And have to fix xine-gui with xine-ui :)

christooss
June 20th, 2005, 05:17 PM
Thanks

Changed

And I added pdfreader and Link Howto burn with mkisofs and cdrecord.

AndersAA
June 20th, 2005, 06:39 PM
It "scares" me that mozilla-firefox and OOo need a ubuntu-desktop package

uhm.. no, ubuntu-desktop depends on firefox and OO, not the other way around.

christooss
June 20th, 2005, 06:46 PM
Ok sorry.

I only know that when iI want too uninstall OOo ubuntu-desktop gets uninstalled to. And than if I want to install back ubuntu-desktop OOo gets installed too.

derrick1985
June 20th, 2005, 09:34 PM
Ok sorry.

I only know that when iI want too uninstall OOo ubuntu-desktop gets uninstalled to. And than if I want to install back ubuntu-desktop OOo gets installed too.


ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that simply tells apt to install these specific packages with so and so configuration.

Anyways, that's a great howto. I have used the one that was outdated, except adding xfce4 for my wm (i still like a little gui in my machine) granted, it is SLOW, but for an old cyrix II 250mhz PC, with only 128 mb of ram, and half a leg to stand on, it does pretty damn good.

xalphas
June 21st, 2005, 01:15 AM
What about dillo for browser. Will it be too light :) ?

# Dillo is small: source is less than 420 KB, and the binary is around 350 KB!

http://www.dillo.org/

eric71
June 21st, 2005, 03:52 AM
A nice improvement on XDM is WDM, which is in universe, I think. It ends up being somewhat of a GDM-lite. Not sure about the dependancies, but I'm sure its a lot lighter than GDM.

christooss
June 21st, 2005, 05:45 AM
are tabs supported in dillo.

I will give it as an option. What about light thunderbird clone?

I will change xdm to wdm

christooss
June 21st, 2005, 05:53 AM
xfce is a Desktop Enviroment

Does anybody know link to where al wms are listed?

xalphas
June 21st, 2005, 09:06 AM
Like this? http://xwinman.org/ ;-)

christooss
June 21st, 2005, 01:07 PM
Thanks.

I added the link

trash
June 21st, 2005, 02:10 PM
Awesome lil setup, I hope it's ok to post my spec's here...

OLD pentium120 not even mmx, 64 mb ram!
800x600/256

Ok it takes a while for fluxbox to be up and running but once it is it's smooth sailing!

Dillo(no tabs:( ), gaim, mc, xclock, xterm, xclipboard all running while i am posting this message.... and Dillo is still faster than ANY other browser lol.

NICE!

christooss
June 21st, 2005, 03:30 PM
what do you use for mail agent? Anybody has an idea about it?

xalphas
June 21st, 2005, 05:31 PM
Even i use a strong machine i like minimal installs. I tried so many of them. And i like to play.

Anyway for mail agent. Will also be secure combination. I think of Mutt+Procmail+Fetchmail from terminal.

This is for howto : http://wiki.sourcemage.org/index.php?page=HOWTO-Setup+mutt%2Bprocmail%2Bfetchmail%2Bgnupg

Maybe for gui we can think of Sylpheed?

trash
June 21st, 2005, 10:05 PM
Haven't dealt with email yet.

Is Opera an option? I am finding Dillo a little strange even with the way it deals with these forums, little things like the 'new posts' link will automatically sign me out and 'todays posts' link will take me to a 'nothing found' search page... and I so can't live without tabs anymore.

xalphas, YES! I am now thinking I want gnome off my better machines... perhaps a howto is needed for people who are running out of disk space, its a great solution for freeing up 1gb + on smaller drives. EDIT: or maybe its as easy as removing ubuntu desktop and then following this guide?

poofyhairguy
June 22nd, 2005, 12:54 AM
Is Opera an option?


Yep.....

christooss
June 22nd, 2005, 04:21 AM
I will add sylpheed and mutt+....

Thanks

In my opinion opera is not an option. Why beacause its not free. OK its free with banners. and WE don't like banners do we? :)

trash
June 22nd, 2005, 07:50 AM
A nice improvement on XDM is WDM, which is in universe, I think. It ends up being somewhat of a GDM-lite. Not sure about the dependancies, but I'm sure its a lot lighter than GDM.

Has anybody else tried WDM because I first tried XDM and didn't notice any extreme login times, where as with WDM I am now waiting 2-3 minutes while my password is validated.

christooss: I know but it works so well... the 'generic' ad's are almost unnoticable compared to the 'custom' ones that are colored and flash.

jackwhite
June 23rd, 2005, 01:27 PM
hey,

can anyone explain how i could do this without internet access? (i can get files off net elsewhere and burn them to cd)

thanks!

christooss
June 23rd, 2005, 03:54 PM
Hm Which of these files are on Ubuntu DVD?

jackwhite
June 24th, 2005, 12:41 PM
I guess i should have explained things a little better. I'm try to set up a laptop for a friend of mine. It only has a really slow modem, and doesn't have a dvd drive. I wonder if its possible to download these files (and their dependencies) on another computer, burn them onto cd and then follow the above instructions? Sorry if this is an annoying or frequent question, like i said i'm more or less a total noobie...

christooss
June 24th, 2005, 01:07 PM
I guess i should have explained things a little better. I'm try to set up a laptop for a friend of mine. It only has a really slow modem, and doesn't have a dvd drive. I wonder if its possible to download these files (and their dependencies) on another computer, burn them onto cd and then follow the above instructions? Sorry if this is an annoying or frequent question, like i said i'm more or less a total noobie...
Yes its posible

Go to page universe repositories. You got link

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/

And there download all packages

christooss
June 24th, 2005, 01:08 PM
You than install them with dpkg -i package_name

christooss
June 24th, 2005, 01:19 PM
Is there a HOWTO make CD from which user could apt-get these things from.

I am more than happy to do it

MRbuntu :)

christooss
June 25th, 2005, 04:59 PM
One of kind guys from linuxquestions showed me this

Link (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/125)
Link (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/149)
Link (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/148)

And now I can get in to making CD for low ram system. \\:D/

odie5533
June 27th, 2005, 12:09 PM
This tutorial is great! I have tryed about 8 distros so far on my family computer, none of which work good, applications constantly dying from lack of memory. I hope this works, I am going to go try it right now.

jackwhite
June 28th, 2005, 08:17 AM
thanks for the advice christoss, i'll hopefully be able to give that a go over or after the weekend

tread
June 28th, 2005, 10:25 AM
Have you thought of mutt as an email client? Its no x application, but it is really good.
http://www.mutt.blackfish.org.uk/
The above chap has a nice howto on mutt for beginner users, including how to setup mime extensions to open attachments etc.

xalphas
June 28th, 2005, 12:28 PM
Even i use a strong machine i like minimal installs. I tried so many of them. And i like to play.

Anyway for mail agent. Will also be secure combination. I think of Mutt+Procmail+Fetchmail from terminal.

This is for howto : http://wiki.sourcemage.org/index.php?page=HOWTO-Setup+mutt%2Bprocmail%2Bfetchmail%2Bgnupg

Maybe for gui we can think of Sylpheed?

Already mentioned and added to the howto.

christooss
June 28th, 2005, 01:07 PM
I will still add this page to howto. you can never get to informed. Right?

derrick1985
June 28th, 2005, 09:13 PM
One of kind guys from linuxquestions showed me this

Link (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/125)
Link (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/149)
Link (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/148)

And now I can get in to making CD for low ram system. \\:D/

I can't wait to see this.

Not that doing this from the Ubuntu CD isn't good, all in one step would be better.

zielony
June 29th, 2005, 03:52 AM
Now we have to install xdm llogin manager.
# apt-get install wdm
Now we have working enviroment but with no GUI application. You can now login with command
# wdm


I have a little problem with that point.
I don't have net in computer that I wanted to install ubuntu(with fluxbox(because it is very old computer)) and I downloaded alle packeges with their relationships but after instalation wdm there is a problem. When I run 'wdm' my monitor only blinks samoe times and nothig else. I don't now is that ok?

christooss
June 29th, 2005, 04:36 AM
try xdm

zielony
June 29th, 2005, 07:45 AM
"command not found"

hmm.. I think I've done something bad with that all depencies..
where could I find a step-by-step instructions how to install fluxbox on ubuntu(server installed)? My main problem is thet I can't pin the net into that computer.. only sitting here and looking for packeges..and burn it on cd and go with that cd to another computer.. :(


sorry for my english I now it is terrible :|

christooss
July 5th, 2005, 11:52 AM
Any one know about bittorennt client.

Azareus is Java based so it sux :)

christooss
July 7th, 2005, 05:36 PM
Any one know about bittorennt client.

Azareus is Java based so it sux :)
Ok I added bittornado torrent client

mattheweast
July 14th, 2005, 12:57 PM
Top guide! is this on the wiki? If not, I will port it or at least make a note so that someone can do it :)

thanks, Matt

christooss
July 19th, 2005, 03:53 AM
Top guide! is this on the wiki? If not, I will port it or at least make a note so that someone can do it :)

thanks, Matt
YOu can ofcourse port it . But I want credits :) :) :) :)

mattheweast
July 19th, 2005, 06:14 AM
There was already a similar page, although not as detailed as your guide. So I tidied it up and bit and added a link to your guide on the page.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallUbuntuOnLowMemorySystems

Thanks for your work!!

christooss
July 24th, 2005, 05:58 AM
I added a script to this howto.

christooss
August 1st, 2005, 01:22 PM
Hello I changed Fluxbox into IceWM beacause after installation there was no programs in menus. I couldn't handle that. In ice WM you just do Update-menus and thats it.

Rogue Elephant
August 4th, 2005, 08:19 AM
having network problems and want to continue on from where christos was almost going.

how can you install a low memory/old system version without an internet connection.

meaning, which programs are on the install CD already, which can replace gnome and other resource-hungry apps?

can't find fluxbox or icewm, for instance, so the mini howt guide is irrelevant if your system is so shite as to not even be "connected"

also, if gnome is the only alternative, when using the CD (i'm assuming you can apt-get stuff from the CD after installing the 'server' version of ubuntu), what do you need to apt-get (from the CD) to make it work properly? (other supporting progtams and libraries - minimum possible) and in what order. i might just search around for the list of all apps on the CD...

so basically, a barebones GUI server from the CD alone... any suggestions?

christooss
August 4th, 2005, 02:20 PM
having network problems and want to continue on from where christos was almost going.

how can you install a low memory/old system version without an internet connection.

meaning, which programs are on the install CD already, which can replace gnome and other resource-hungry apps?

can't find fluxbox or icewm, for instance, so the mini howt guide is irrelevant if your system is so shite as to not even be "connected"

also, if gnome is the only alternative, when using the CD (i'm assuming you can apt-get stuff from the CD after installing the 'server' version of ubuntu), what do you need to apt-get (from the CD) to make it work properly? (other supporting progtams and libraries - minimum possible) and in what order. i might just search around for the list of all apps on the CD...

so basically, a barebones GUI server from the CD alone... any suggestions?
Try on www.ubuntulite.org

And on this link

http://groups.google.com.au/group/ubuntu_lite

Willcan
August 5th, 2005, 12:15 AM
Hi.

I tried your install script and everything worked just fine. I have only two problems, well I guess it's really only one. There are others but this one rose to the top.

When I try to print from Abiword two thing's happen.

1.. Abiword disappears.

2..Nothing gets printed.

Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Willcan
August 5th, 2005, 01:32 AM
Continued to play, and got it to print., after noticing that lpr, wghich Abiword wants to print through wasn't installed. So I sudo apt-get install lpr, and the printer prints.

This is what wanted printed, on an Epson Stylus C60 printer. "This is a test.

This is what I got:
"%%Orientation: Portrait
%%Pages: 1
%%DocumentPaperSizes: A4
%%DocumentSuppliedResources: font BitstreamVeraSerif-Roman
%%EndComments
%%BeginProlog
/FSF {findfont exch scalefont} bind def
/MS {neg moveto show} bind def
/GS {glyphshow} bind def
/MV {neg moveto} bind def
/BP {gsave 72 exch div dup scale} bind def
/SZ {/HH exch def /WW exch def} bind def
/BPP {BP SZ 0 HH translate} bind def
/BPL {BP SZ 90 rotate} bind def
/EP {grestore showpage} bind def
/ML {neg moveto neg lineto stroke} bind def
/LAT {dup length dict copy dup begin
{1 index /FID ne {def} {pop pop} ifelse} forall
/Encoding ISOLatin1Encoding 256 array copy def
Encoding 39 /quotesingle put
Encoding 45 /hyphen put
currentdict
end} bind def
/EXC {exch definefont pop} bind def
/CP {closepath} bind def
/F {fill} bind def
/LT {neg lineto} bind def
/MT {neg moveto} bind def
/F0 {12 /BitstreamVeraSerif-Roman FSF setfont} bind def
%%EndProlog
%%BeginSetup
%!PS-TrueTypeFont
11 dict begin
/FontName"

Any ideas on what "m doing wrong?

DarthMandeep
August 20th, 2005, 09:11 PM
If you run a lot of terminal apps you might want to use rxvt instead of xterm. It's just xterm with some of the rarely used features removed. On truly old systems, the xvt terminal emulator and the dash shell work great as a command line app launcher.

For a file manager, I've got to suggest either rox-filer or Xfe. Both are fairly light, but very usable.

picpak
August 25th, 2005, 11:54 AM
Hello I changed Fluxbox into IceWM beacause after installation there was no programs in menus. I couldn't handle that. In ice WM you just do Update-menus and thats it.

Can you explain, please? The terminal says it's not found. Sorry, I switched back to Windows for about a month and I forgot how to use Linux ](*,)

christooss
August 25th, 2005, 04:45 PM
WHich part you don't understand?

picpak
August 25th, 2005, 04:58 PM
nvm, I got it. I needed to install "menu" and "menu-xdg".

Teroedni
August 28th, 2005, 04:30 PM
This is a great Howto

Unlucky for me i started wdm
now i cant get back to console:(
And i havent got installed xterm:(
so it seems that i need to do all over again tommorow:(

also i tried to install amiwm with no luck
i wget ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/X11/wm/amiwm/amiwm0.20pl48.tar.gz
but when i try to install it i cant
probably because is it in tar.gz format
So how do i unpack it and make it work in console?

christooss
August 28th, 2005, 05:52 PM
Just press crl+alt+ F1 to get back to konsole

Teroedni
August 29th, 2005, 02:49 AM
To late:(
Anyway thanks:)
And icewm was looking quite good:)

John.Michael.Kane
September 8th, 2005, 10:53 AM
christooss do you need to have net access to use this guide? i thought that apt get was for downloading files from the repo's ect. if this is the case how can you use this how to with net access?


Thanks

christooss
September 8th, 2005, 11:56 AM
Yes you have to have net acces. But let me remind you about Ubuntu lite

http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntu_lite?lnk=li&hl=en

And page

http://ubuntulite.org/

John.Michael.Kane
September 8th, 2005, 02:01 PM
,sorry. i wish to use the ubuntu i have. thanks how ever there should be way for the guide to be used with out internet access. mainly cause you state. how is someone going to have net access this way. in any case thanks for the help ubuntu lite is not what i need..

I imagine that you have Hoary CD already in your CD unit. Reboot computer and when installation screen shows, write server and then press <return>

xequence
September 8th, 2005, 09:26 PM
Great howto! Ill try it out after. It will be good to only have the things I need.

Plus it will be a good learning experience =P How many MB is the install of the things you listed? As in how much of the HDD does this install take?

christooss
September 9th, 2005, 04:28 AM
Great howto! Ill try it out after. It will be good to only have the things I need.

Plus it will be a good learning experience =P How many MB is the install of the things you listed? As in how much of the HDD does this install take?
Im not sure less than 1 GB

draugen
September 9th, 2005, 04:46 AM
instead of xdm, wdm etc, you could use mingetty.

sudo apt-get mingetty

then edit /etc/inittab. replace: '

1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1

with

1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty --autologin <yourusername> tty1

then run:
$ mv .bash_profile .bash_profile.bak
$ echo "tty | grep tty1 && startx" > .bash_profile
$ ln .bash_profile .profile

to automagically start X when logging in on TTY1.

(shamelessly lifted from here (http://www.cs.rit.edu/~css8044/?q=autologin#) )

works great for me :)

--martin

christooss
September 9th, 2005, 04:51 AM
sudo apt-get install mingetty ;)

draugen
September 9th, 2005, 04:52 AM
ofcourse :) my bad...

Rxke
September 11th, 2005, 01:24 PM
CHRISTOOS, kudos for this update!

in the original guide there was the following note:
From Frank Martelli [frank at foodsavvy dot com]: Just a note when dealing with the ppc version of Ubuntu -- for some
reason, icewm (silently) requires /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3. A very frustrating bug, as X starts lets you login and then (without any errors)
returns to the login screen.
Solution:

ln -s /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4 /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3

Is this still an issue? and where in the process of installing does this apply?
(going to try this out myself, so can come up with the answer... if all goes well... )

Rxke
September 12th, 2005, 10:29 AM
Got it working. Now stupid of me, i got wet feet and did the ln -s... before checking out if it would work without, smart eh?
I got IceWm running in the end, but don't ask me how, heehee, on the way in, i did some kludging with different WM's and... But it definitely works.

Anyhoo... I had a sleepless night and tried the Xfce-on-server setup here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=346504&posted=1#post346504

and that went even smoother.

Since I prefer Xfce because it has a possibility to adjust screengamma (which I need for my broken screen), I'll stick to it, for now... But it would be interesting to see a cross-pollination, or a comparison between the two setups?

christooss
September 12th, 2005, 10:56 AM
Its slightly different setup with xfce setup ju get xfce and gdm and FF

With this howto you get full operating sistem with everithing you need :)

I can make another script with xfce4 installation.

8FootSativa
September 15th, 2005, 07:26 AM
A few apps that some should consider are:

SLiM - Simple Login Manager: http://slim.berlios.de/index.php

Qingy - http://qingy.sourceforge.net/news.php

Conky - http://conky.sourceforge.net/

Also, these packages would be of use:

http://vljubovic.members.epn.ba/ubuntu.html

Includes Ubuntu packages for Qingy, Equinox Desktop Enviroment, a highly patched Dillo, and a lightweight GDM with no need for Gnome.

Also, is the 2.4 kernel a possibility?

8FootSativa
September 27th, 2005, 09:27 PM
Bump!

pppetter
September 27th, 2005, 11:08 PM
Hmz. Will there be a new automate script for breezy maybe?

christooss
September 28th, 2005, 05:39 AM
Ok I will make it today. No problem

bugmenot
September 28th, 2005, 07:14 AM
opera is now an option: http://opera.com/free/

christooss
September 28th, 2005, 08:07 AM
I added opera as an option. But it will still not find its way to automate script :P

christooss
September 28th, 2005, 08:22 AM
Breezy automate script has been added!!!

I hope t works. Please report.

krasator
September 28th, 2005, 01:30 PM
Maybe you could add GQview as an image viewer. Very little dependencies, and it's really fast for the features it provides.

nytfox
October 1st, 2005, 11:21 AM
This howto is amazing! :smile: :smile: :smile:
btw what files in the server install that I can safely remove? what I mean is when I do a server install in ubuntu5.04, will it also automatically install server applications like apache, mail etc.. which I don't need because I will use it for desktop only.
I'm new in ubuntu linux(just 3 day ago when I start experimenting, this distro is great).

christooss
October 1st, 2005, 11:33 AM
You can try installing minimal and not server. I don't know how but there is a package ubuntu-minimal. Mybe try sudo apt-get install minimall but beware it might uninstall all f your programs.

Try this and report. Maybe you could choose minimal installation at first installation step?

If anyone can second that.

nytfox
October 2nd, 2005, 11:55 PM
I tried the above sudo apt-get install minimal or sudo apt-get install ubuntu-minimal but it give me can't find package error...

christooss
October 3rd, 2005, 10:37 AM
Are you using breezy. I don't think there is a minimal package in hoary.

BTW. for breezy users: xubuntu-package is avalible in repositories. And there will soon be a ubuntu-lite included. I hope. I have to lurn how to do meta package :) If any body has an Idea I would be realy happy if you could tell me how to do it

CAPTAIN RON FL
October 5th, 2005, 11:10 PM
I want to use mozilla. I have the latest breezy. I get an error because the backports are no longer there. Have you got a way to fix this? I am using all the latest updates etc. from brezy.

Thanks, Ron

christooss
October 6th, 2005, 02:17 AM
You have to use breezy sources.list + multiverse

CAPTAIN RON FL
October 6th, 2005, 04:37 PM
You said "Breezy automate script doesnt install w32codecs". What is w32codecs?

Thanks, Ron

OK I found out what they are far. I guess I should have stayed with what I had. Now I have to wait till new HOW TO'S are written. Oh well.
Close , Oh so close but no cigar.

christooss
October 6th, 2005, 05:19 PM
OK I found out what they are far. I guess I should have stayed with what I had. Now I have to wait till new HOW TO'S are written. Oh well.
Close , Oh so close but no cigar.


I don't get this. Why you have to wait?

john280z
October 8th, 2005, 11:34 AM
Hello all,

Timings on a Dell Gn P1/233 64Meg ram.
no sound card.
X11 is running at 800x600x16.
Xubuntu is Breezy server install with xubuntu-desktop
Boot timings:
PC is powered Off for one minute.
Power button pushed.
Timer is started after Grub;
"boot
Uncompressing Linux..." <-- start timer.

Xubuntu boots to a login prompt requiring
the user to login and then type "startx".
UbuntuLite boots to X11.
Both are running FireFox version 1.0.7

Xubuntu UbuntuLite 1.1
Boot 2:19
startx 0:33 1:48
FireFox 0:34 0:27

john mitchell

christooss
October 8th, 2005, 11:59 AM
WHat about this howto?

blackpaw
October 25th, 2005, 06:41 PM
I'd like to give this script a try... what is happening on your page, christoss? half of the things seem not to work :(

well, guess I'll be stuck with the console for a while.. but the browsing is very fast now :)

ciao,


blackpaw

christooss
October 25th, 2005, 08:03 PM
Ups sorry. The scripts will work tomorrow (upss its already today :) in the evening.

steeley
November 20th, 2005, 12:11 PM
Just tried the script, but it fails because various links in the script point to files that do not exist on the servers.

christooss
November 20th, 2005, 12:18 PM
Yes curently my page is down. Don't know why. Hope I will fix it today. But I will provide script soon as I find it on my disc. Sorry for the inconvinience

christooss
November 20th, 2005, 12:25 PM
Is there anyone who can provide a space for my little files. For now I can provide these files in a package.

blackpaw
November 20th, 2005, 04:11 PM
*waves* Webspace I have plenty and some traffic is no problem, as long as it's linux related. :grin:

I volunteer, as I want to try your script badly!
can you add an option to go for xfce4, maybe? :rolleyes:

Post me a message or mail me then I will upload it for you. Or you upload it yourself.. Or something else ;)


andreas

christooss
November 20th, 2005, 04:16 PM
For xfce4 try sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop

Check you PM :)

blackpaw
November 21st, 2005, 05:39 AM
how could I have forgotten about xubuntu!!!

thanks ;)

but for getting the laptop-stuff to work (like Fn-Keys and stuff)
I am doing a full installation first and then stripping the system of gnome, gdm, evolution, and so on and put xubuntu-desktop on it afterwards.. it won't get me the FN-Keys to work if I do the server-install

(too lame, I am)

can't wait to try out your skript, christooss

christooss
December 4th, 2005, 07:23 AM
Hello every body new howto is out

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98233

DarthMandeep
December 13th, 2005, 09:07 AM
JWM uses half the memory of IceWM while providing a similar look and features.
I've converted all my boxes to use it instead. Bye bye IceWM! We had a good run, but I've found something thinner and younger :)

christooss
December 13th, 2005, 04:33 PM
Yes Jwm has been discussed on our mailin list. But I haven't check tat and I hav to check first :)

zx80
May 20th, 2006, 11:07 AM
Qingy could be a lightweight replacement for wdm:

http://qingy.sourceforge.net/

Golgoth
June 1st, 2006, 01:59 PM
About GNOME: If you install abiword you get gnome libs installed. So if there is an alternative....

http://freshmeat.net/projects/siagoffice/