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Bungo Pony
April 27th, 2007, 01:03 PM
Not sure if this has been posted yet or if it's true, but it may be a good thing if it is:

http://alkyproject.blogspot.com/search/label/directx

deadlines
April 27th, 2007, 01:34 PM
Yeah I saw this on slashdot a couple days ago, a lot of speculation about whether or not it is true. I'm a little skeptical, but on the other hand if it is true it would be one heckuva cool thing.

Hendrixski
April 27th, 2007, 01:36 PM
dunno, sounds to be too good to be true to come from a 19 year old reverse-engineer

cogadh
April 27th, 2007, 01:50 PM
On top of that, it's not open source and they are already charging $50 to get access to anything beyond the minor demo they have posted on the blog:
http://www.fallingleafsystems.com/sapling/

deadlines
April 27th, 2007, 02:08 PM
Ouch $50? Yeah, I will definitely be waiting for more proof before coughing up one red cent for something I can't even be sure is true. Heck, $15 I coud understand assuming it had some objective credibility, but $50 is getting into the realm of just plain ridiculous. That being said, my mind cannot help but wander back to the prospect of playing Age of Conan on Linux when it gets released. :) I suppose time will tell whether this is a hoax or the real deal.

AndrewRiedi
April 27th, 2007, 04:59 PM
Irrelevant.

There is a Wine Direct3D10 SoC project (http://code.google.com/soc/wine/appinfo.html?csaid=14411B58ACD714B8). Just wait for Wine to play a little catch-up and we will be good to go. Btw, I think the Alky people severely underestimate the complexity of Direct3D, and DirectX in general. The Wine dev's, however, do not.

deadlines
April 27th, 2007, 05:33 PM
Frankly as soon as I heard about the Alky project, I thought to myself, "how on Earth are they going to perfect something that the Wine team has been working on for years to get stable?" :P

Very cool to hear the Wine guys are working on something for DX10 though, thanks for the info. At least we're seeing some glimmer of hope.

Lycaon
April 30th, 2007, 10:09 AM
I'm to a bit sceptical about the alky project. But on the other hand, why couldn't it be true?
Another thing i am wondering about is the next question: Is it even legal to reverse engineer a copyrighted thechnollogy and build an own wrapper around it so the reverse enginere can sell it? Is the selling of it even legal?
What about the demo's? Do they work? Can you tell from the demo's that this project is not an hoax?

AndrewRiedi
April 30th, 2007, 10:36 AM
I AM NOT A LAWYER!

Anyhow, that said, from what I have seen, what makes reverse engineering legal or not largely depends on what one means by reverse engineering. It is, for instance perfectly fine to write a test program, run it on windows, and then try to duplicate the behavior afterwards. It is not fine to take a disassembler and look at their code. Once you have legal code, it is yours; you can sell it if you want.

Again, I am not a lawyer, so take the above as a grain of salt.

lakersforce
April 30th, 2007, 10:47 AM
I only have one thing to say about this: :lol: :roll: :lol:
What a con artist!

Cappy
April 30th, 2007, 12:49 PM
I agree, it seems more like a scam than anything else. He gets the money and there is no guarantee you will ever get anything in return.