Boot-Up Manager (BUM) 1.3.x [Archive]

saltydog

June 16th, 2005, 05:06 AM

Version 1.3.0 is online!

Please download the deb package from the web site: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html and read the changelog.

The documentation is on: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bumdocs.html

Note: If you experience that any service running on your machine is missing from the "human text" list, please update the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InitScriptHumanDescriptions
You can put here the proposed description and the daemon name (if any).

Update of July 13, 2005
New version 1.3.1 is online.

Update of July 18, 2005
New version 1.3.2 is online

bum1.3.0.jpg

aboe

June 16th, 2005, 03:40 PM

josuealcalde

June 17th, 2005, 05:05 AM

Good work.

cogumbreiro

June 27th, 2005, 11:05 PM

Version 1.3.0 is online!

Please download the deb package from the web site: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html and read the changelog.

The documentation is on: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bumdocs.html

bum1.3.0.jpg
This is a very nice application. keep up the good work!

Here are some HIG compliance and usability tips:

- You should swap of the buttons ("Apply Changes" and "Exit")
- You should use the stock "Quit" button instead of the "Exit" button
- Dialogs should be set transient to the parent window: I noticed the loading dialog and the about
- Are those frames really needed? Frames should use the bold font and space on the left.
- Why not use a "Ok"|"Apply" button instead of the "Apply Changes"|"Exit"

saltydog

June 29th, 2005, 04:58 AM

This is a very nice application. keep up the good work!

Here are some HIG compliance and usability tips:

- You should swap of the buttons ("Apply Changes" and "Exit")
- You should use the stock "Quit" button instead of the "Exit" button
- Dialogs should be set transient to the parent window: I noticed the loading dialog and the about
- Are those frames really needed? Frames should use the bold font and space on the left.
- Why not use a "Ok"|"Apply" button instead of the "Apply Changes"|"Exit"

Thank you. I will take them in consideration for next release. Just one thing: the "About" dialog is the standard Gnome2::About. Its behaviour is exactly the same as in Nautilus...

pismikrop

June 29th, 2005, 06:59 AM

some feature requests :)

highlighting of not - installed scripts
And custom script installation

saltydog

June 29th, 2005, 08:54 AM

some feature requests :)

highlighting of not - installed scripts
And custom script installation

The system cannot know which are the not-installed scripts!! The universe of debian has thousands of init scripts, so I cannot trace them all on your system...

Custom script installation is out of the scope of BUM. You need to write a script in bash, put it in /etc/init.d/ and just run BUM to activate it where you want..

pismikrop

June 30th, 2005, 02:18 AM

The system cannot know which are the not-installed scripts!!

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InitScriptHumanDescriptions

cogumbreiro

July 2nd, 2005, 08:57 PM

Thank you. I will take them in consideration for next release. Just one thing: the "About" dialog is the standard Gnome2::About. Its behaviour is exactly the same as in Nautilus...
Nautilus is a different kind of application. Just open any other application, like File Roller or Gedit, even Firefox (which is not a GNOME/Gtk+ application) uses this method.

Dialog's should not appear in the tasklist, they should be transient to a certain window (have a parent), this includes preferences, small progress dialogs that depend on a window, etc.

It would also be nice if you could port your gnome-abut-dialog the new gtk-about-dialog, since the former is pretty much deprecated.

HIG, Chapter 3 - Dialogs (http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/windows-dialog.html):

A dialog should not appear in the panel window list. Any open dialogs should be raised above the application when the application window itself is selected from the window list.

saltydog

July 3rd, 2005, 04:02 AM

It would also be nice if you could port your gnome-abut-dialog the new gtk-about-dialog, since the former is pretty much deprecated.
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Currently hoary installs libgtk2-perl v.1.061 and this version doesn't have the bindings for gtkAboutDialog. If breezy will come out with an update, I will change this.

saltydog

July 13th, 2005, 09:48 AM

New version 1.3.1 is online:

http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html

zrr

July 14th, 2005, 09:07 AM

Hi

Does this version of the Boot-Up Manager (BUM) work on PPC as well? Thanks for your Feedback and help.

Zeno

saltydog

July 14th, 2005, 09:21 AM

Hi

Does this version of the Boot-Up Manager (BUM) work on PPC as well? Thanks for your Feedback and help.

Zeno

I have no means to test, but as BUM only depends on Perl, Gtk2-Perl libGnome-perl, if you have those libraries installed for PPC, it should run.

saltydog

July 18th, 2005, 08:32 AM

New version 1.3.2 is online. Please see changelog.

ar0d

July 20th, 2005, 04:29 AM

very nice tool. been waiting for the distro to come out w/ something like that. Thankyou!

saltydog

July 20th, 2005, 04:39 AM

very nice tool. been waiting for the distro to come out w/ something like that. Thankyou!

Unfortunately, ubuntu's developers has selected another tool for Breezy, a sort of mini-BUM without all that extended functionalities.

SuperMike

July 24th, 2005, 05:24 PM

Although you did this in Perl, I do a bit of Python/PyGTK/Glade-2 work myself. (I'm not fond of Python completely.) Most of the time, I just get Python to shell out, run GNU commands, and return the results in the screen. I must say that your work here, saltydog, is of the most excellent quality. It loaded up just fine in my Hoary Hedgehog 5.04.

Using PyGTK, I'm currently working on gvpnc, a GNOME front-end to vpnc, as well as a firewall tool that does not require lokkit and which is designed for people using dial-up, DSL, and cable modems. Both are designed, like your application, to be easy to use and ready for noobs. They are functional right now. As soon as I iron out the install kinks so that it works on most platforms, I'll have it up on the sourceforge. (I'm also the writer of pgst for PostgreSQL.)

autocrosser

July 25th, 2005, 02:02 AM

BUM seems to work just fine on PPC--got the 1.3.2 release--installed with no problems . :) Looks good--works same---THANK YOU!!

Cheers!!
Dean

saltydog

July 25th, 2005, 03:24 AM

kanem

July 30th, 2005, 10:04 PM

Custom script installation is out of the scope of BUM. You need to write a script in bash, put it in /etc/init.d/ and just run BUM to activate it where you want..

So, I wrote a script and put it in /etc/init.d/ and ran BUM.... And now I still don't see a way to add my script. It isn't listed in any of BUM's menus. Could someone tell me what I'm missing?

Sorry if it's something obvious.

the script is just a simple#!/bin/bash
command
I chmodded it +x and ran it to make sure it's executable

saltydog

July 31st, 2005, 12:00 PM

So, I wrote a script and put it in /etc/init.d/ and ran BUM.... And now I still don't see a way to add my script. It isn't listed in any of BUM's menus. Could someone tell me what I'm missing?

the script is just a simple#!/bin/bash
command
I chmodded it +x and ran it to make sure it's executable

It is not important to chmod the script (BUM will do it) but it is important that the script name must NOT be followed by .sh Standard init scripts should not be named with extension .sh, but with no extension.

Mor on this: are you sure you are running latest BUM version 1.3.2? I have just checked again and it works straight.

kanem

July 31st, 2005, 03:04 PM

It is not important to chmod the script (BUM will do it) but it is important that the script name must NOT be followed by .sh Standard init scripts should not be named with extension .sh, but with no extension.

Mor on this: are you sure you are running latest BUM version 1.3.2? I have just checked again and it works straight.
I think I may have discovered what the problem was. Earlier I had tried to do it manually without BUM and added a link to my script in /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d. When I got rid of those and started up BUM my script was visible.

thanks for the app!

saltydog

July 31st, 2005, 03:12 PM

I think I may have discovered what the problem was. Earlier I had tried to do it manually without BUM and added a link to my script in /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d. When I got rid of those and started up BUM my script was visible.

thanks for the app!

Yes. Generally it is not a good idea to play manually with symlink. In your case, BUM has marked the script as *invalid* because a script MUST have a K link in rc0 rc1 and rc6 to be sysv compliant.
Please read the new docs at: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bumdocs.html

johnmc

August 2nd, 2005, 05:24 PM

Very nice program!
Thanks & keep up the great work! :)

sinbad782

August 4th, 2005, 02:22 AM

Looks like BUM is now in Debian Unstable! -

http://lwn.net/Articles/145984/
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/bum

Great work!

matthew

August 4th, 2005, 02:37 AM

I've been using this for about a month, maybe 6 weeks and am very impressed. Thanks.

saltydog

August 4th, 2005, 03:49 AM

Looks like BUM is now in Debian Unstable! -

http://lwn.net/Articles/145984/
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/bum

Great work!

Yes. But it is also on Breezy!
http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/admin/bum

Parkaboy

August 30th, 2005, 10:35 PM

it has been quite usefull to me

Knome_fan

September 1st, 2005, 04:48 AM

Anyone else having problems with it on breezy?

It installs fine, but when I try to run it, I get the following error:
Can't locate stddef.ph in @INC (did you run h2ph?) (@INC contains: /usr/share/bum/ /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/bits/types.ph line 10.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/termios.ph line 9.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/bits/ioctl-types.ph line 8.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/sys/ioctl.ph line 9.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/bum//bumlib.pm line 29.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/bin/bum line 44.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/bum line 44.

I don't know if this matters, but I'm trying this on ppc.

arnieboy

September 4th, 2005, 11:44 AM

Version 1.3.0 is online!

Please download the deb package from the web site: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html and read the changelog.

The documentation is on: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bumdocs.html
Is this app usable on fedora? if yes, can I get the source code for this so that I can compile it on fedora?
I only found the deb file on your website.

saltydog

September 4th, 2005, 11:54 AM

Is this app usable on fedora? if yes, can I get the source code for this so that I can compile it on fedora?
I only found the deb file on your website.

I don't know if fedora uses the same sysv-rc init system as debian, so I can't answer your question.

Anyway, you can download the source code here:
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bum/bum_1.3.2.orig.tar.gz

arnieboy

September 6th, 2005, 05:32 PM

I don't know if fedora uses the same sysv-rc init system as debian, so I can't answer your question.

Anyway, you can download the source code here:
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bum/bum_1.3.2.orig.tar.gz
hey thanks for the reply, but I found an inbuilt Gnome app for the same in fedora.

hammett111

September 9th, 2005, 11:18 PM

Works great here

dabear

September 13th, 2005, 02:41 PM

Feature request: It would be nice if there were some kinda «export» where you could dump the current services to a file

merlyn

September 16th, 2005, 08:33 AM

Unfortunately, ubuntu's developers has selected another tool for Breezy, a sort of mini-BUM without all that extended functionalities.

You never know the devs just might pick it up and run with it at later stage, as happened with SMEG ;-)

FNM

September 17th, 2005, 09:45 PM

Great little app. I disabled 7 services that I don't need.

lavarock09

September 22nd, 2005, 01:03 PM

I'm struggling to install BUM

I was wondering if anyone here could help

So, I run this

sudo apt-get install bum

in terminal and it outputs this

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package bum

Can anyone help?

saltydog

September 22nd, 2005, 01:06 PM

I'm struggling to install BUM

I was wondering if anyone here could help

So, I run this

in terminal and it outputs this

Can anyone help?

Download v.1.3.3 from here: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
and follow installation instructions.

lavarock09

September 22nd, 2005, 01:08 PM

I have done this, but where do I put the .deb file

flibblesan

October 16th, 2005, 01:05 AM

I have done this, but where do I put the .deb file

Download the deb file, then from a terminal do:
sudo dpkg -i bum_1.3.4-2_all.deb

to install. Ignore anything about apt-get :)

gorkhal

October 16th, 2005, 11:42 PM

question...does this properly work with breezy???

thanks.

saltydog

October 17th, 2005, 03:44 AM

question...does this properly work with breezy???

thanks.

Yes !! It is IN breezy repositories...

sudo apt-get install bum

gorkhal

October 17th, 2005, 04:50 PM

great...thanks a lot. :smile:

abqaussie

January 16th, 2006, 11:02 PM

In order to get bum to run on PPC (Mac G3) I had to do the following:

1. Install the libgtk2-gladexml-perl library via Synaptic (or terminal)
2. Run the following in terminal:
wget http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bum/bum_2.1.4-1_all.deb
sudo dpkg -i bum_2.1.4-1_all.deb

Thanks to kozimodo for posting on another thread.