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loell
April 24th, 2007, 08:12 AM
we all know how annoying the printscreen function is , why not make it ctrl + printscreen by default, this time around?

caryb
April 24th, 2007, 08:13 AM
Why:confused:

Zdravko
April 24th, 2007, 08:40 AM
OMG! You can always set the printscreen to do nothing. It is just a normal option in GNOME shortcut key manager. I can't believe someone dares to propose such an idea for Ubuntu! :(

loell
April 24th, 2007, 08:44 AM
because to many keyboard layouts backspace and printscreen are close, its prone to accidentall key hit , and when it gets hit, the print screen / or screenshot capture dailog will the pop-up <=== now that is annoying.

true, we can always costumize it through "Keyboard shortcuts". making it as a default, would be nice.

loell
April 24th, 2007, 08:49 AM
OMG! You can always set the printscreen to do nothing. It is just a normal option in GNOME shortcut key manager. I can't believe someone dares to propose such an idea for Ubuntu! :(

oh yeah , i dare - its not a complex idea, its actually very simple, that has always been overlooked.

undermining such suggestion is actually rude you know.

Zdravko
April 24th, 2007, 09:10 AM
It is rude to express such an idea. The next release of Ubuntu needs stability and reliability. Fancy stuff like new keybindings is totally useless.
BTW, on my laptop the keyboard is arranged in such a way, that it is impossible to swap those 2 buttons. It is a matter of keyboard.

frup
April 24th, 2007, 09:13 AM
Mine is super+F8... I don't want to have to press ctrl+super+f8.

loell
April 24th, 2007, 09:18 AM
It is rude to express such an idea. The next release of Ubuntu needs stability and reliability. Fancy stuff like new keybindings is totally useless.
BTW, on my laptop the keyboard is arranged in such a way, that it is impossible to swap those 2 buttons. It is a matter of keyboard.

huh? are you hearing yourself?

don't hijack my thread, it is an idea as far as i'm concern, or else i would call the attention of a forum staff.

this is not a flame thread...

Zdravko
April 24th, 2007, 09:23 AM
Sorry, but I get angry when I see all those threads concerning graphical issues. Your topic just made me explode.
I am not invoking flame war, but a fresh mind. You already have functionality to change the default behaviour of all the keys.

loell
April 24th, 2007, 09:24 AM
Mine is super+F8... I don't want to have to press ctrl+super+f8.
i see, so in addition to this default keybinding ctrl + printscreen thi should only be applicable to us keyboard layout
where i believe backspace and printscreen is too close.

loell
April 24th, 2007, 09:30 AM
Sorry, but I get angry when I see all those threads concerning graphical issues. Your topic just made me explode.
I am not invoking flame war, but a fresh mind. You already have functionality to change the default behaviour of all the keys.

ok, i'll accept it if it is sincere , and no this is not graphical issues

its an "accessebilty" in a non-otrusive way, yes i have the option, and my suggestion that it be default, if youre oppose to my suggestion, then it is well noted. let the developers ponder on the idea like the other ideas here.

Naralas
April 24th, 2007, 02:01 PM
Printscreen never hurt me.
I thought you were proposing CTRL+Printscreen so it would save without that dialog.
Does such a thing already exist?

AlexC_
April 24th, 2007, 02:14 PM
It is rude to express such an idea. The next release of Ubuntu needs stability and reliability. Fancy stuff like new keybindings is totally useless.
BTW, on my laptop the keyboard is arranged in such a way, that it is impossible to swap those 2 buttons. It is a matter of keyboard.

Rude? I have no idea why you started to attack Loell like you did, that was not needed. Also, how is this a graphical issue?

Personally, I've never seen anyone mistake backspace for printscreen however I think Naralas's idea of ctrl+printscreen with no save dialog would be helpful.

aysiu
April 24th, 2007, 02:17 PM
I don't understand what the objection to PrintScreen is. Can you explain further?

Zdravko
April 24th, 2007, 03:19 PM
Rude? I have no idea why you started to attack Loell like you did, that was not needed. Also, how is this a graphical issue?

Personally, I've never seen anyone mistake backspace for printscreen however I think Naralas's idea of ctrl+printscreen with no save dialog would be helpful.
When I press PrtScr, I want and expect exactly 1 (one) thing to happen - to have a picture of my current screen. Why change something standard? Is there a reason for it? Now I want you to explain this. Can you? No, you can't because people have invented standardization only to make our world a better place. Changing the default behavior of something only leads to troubles.
I never attacked anyone. I said only that the proposal was rude. It is like saying 2+2 doesn't equal 4 during math class.
Is everyone happy now? :popcorn:

mech7
April 24th, 2007, 03:24 PM
I think the default behaviour should change.. I am used to prt screen and pasting it in a image editor to measure / modify / cut / compare.. the screenshot saver is a bit annoying sometimes didn't know i could change it :)

Now i first save a fle and then open it.. it just takes longer.

AlexC_
April 24th, 2007, 03:28 PM
I think the default behaviour should change.. I am used to prt screen and pasting it in a image editor to measure / modify / cut / compare.. the screenshot saver is a bit annoying sometimes didn't know i could change it :)

Now i first save a fle and then open it.. it just takes longer.

You have to remember, not all Linux users are ex-Windows users. Only those who use Windows (not sure about Mac) would expect this behavior, many many other users like it how it has been for years - and personally I agree with them, why should we have to open up an image editor to paste an image into, then save when it can do it all at once. You can't just want something change because your used to it in Windows

loell
April 24th, 2007, 06:32 PM
I don't understand what the objection to PrintScreen is. Can you explain further?

i have no objection to the print screen function, rather , in a U.S Keyboard layout which is common, the backspace key and printscreen key is a bit close.

i'd imagine, since backspace key is always in use, accidental key hit to the printscreen key should be common to a common user. and when this happen, printscreen dialog will pop more often.

yes, i'm fully aware, that i can change the default settings...

yet how many new users with a U.S keyboard layout, will go to system menu ---> preferences ---> keyboard shortcuts ---> sroll down a bit -->click it and then press the new key accelerator that they want to assign?

the reason why i suggested ctrl + printscreen as a default replacement is because alt + printscreen is in use to take screenshot of the current active window, so i guess that would make sense to ctrl + printscreen to capture fullscreen.

yeah, windows never had this issue, because the image is then directed to the clip board. ofcourse this is not windows dekstop, but the capture function that does not distract users is a nice one.

aysiu
April 24th, 2007, 06:45 PM
I've never, in my almost two years on the forum, heard of this (the accidental hitting of the PrtScn button) being an issue.

loell
April 24th, 2007, 07:09 PM
I've never, in my almost two years on the forum, heard of this (the accidental hitting of the PrtScn button) being an issue.

also in kde

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2461867

i can understand that this could be isolated to me and very few others