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Dr. Z2A
April 23rd, 2007, 07:25 PM
Hey all. I dual boot Windows and Linux right now, although the only reason Windows is still around is for gaming. I haven't had the best of luck getting my games to run under Wine (although maybe I'm just not looking hard enough for how to tweak stuff), so I'm looking into Cedega. Is it worth the monthly fee? Note that I'm a 17 year old guy with no job atm (and doesn't get money from parents). I want to avoid subscribing to Cedega and finding that I still can't play my Windows games.

eyelessfade
April 23rd, 2007, 07:30 PM
You might want to try out wine first. It pretty much work with anything cedega works with. Although its not always as easy install. I use cedega and I think its good (for the most part) It has a nice gui and the team are often very fast to fix problems, at least for popular games which suddenly break for everyone

donkyhotay
April 23rd, 2007, 08:38 PM
When I first began transitioning from linux to windows I installed wine and worked at getting as many of my windows games going as I could. However as time went on, I played more and more GPL games until in the end I just plain uninstalled wine as I found the proprietary games were boring compared to the alternatives. Even commercial games with linux binaries (such as savage and UT2004) I don't play that often because I can usually find a GPL alternative. Admittedly the one game I truly miss, haven't found a replacement for and have considered attempting to wine is tribes2 (can't get linux discs anymore and legends has taken all the good stuff out of it). Personally I consider wine a crutch, it's really good and helps people make the transition (especially in the gaming scene) but eventually as you become more and more familiar with linux and learn to find whats available for it natively and how much better games are when they're designed/built by gamers looking for a good time rather then a corporation looking to make a buck then eventually you'll move away from windows games. I kind of think this is why there is so little game support for linux from gaming companies. They don't want people to notice the difference between a game they release which is locked down and a game that gamers can tweak to make better.

SishGupta
April 23rd, 2007, 08:39 PM
Hey all. I dual boot Windows and Linux right now, although the only reason Windows is still around is for gaming. I haven't had the best of luck getting my games to run under Wine (although maybe I'm just not looking hard enough for how to tweak stuff), so I'm looking into Cedega. Is it worth the monthly fee? Note that I'm a 17 year old guy with no job atm (and doesn't get money from parents). I want to avoid subscribing to Cedega and finding that I still can't play my Windows games.

I don't know if you are into this, i don't condone it and neither does this forum, but there are ways of getting Cedega on the internet without paying for it. Obviously if one were to do such thing it would only be to determine whether it worked with their game as well as they want it to.

Dr. Z2A
April 23rd, 2007, 08:44 PM
I don't know if you are into this, i don't condone it and neither does this forum, but there are ways of getting Cedega on the internet without paying for it. Obviously if one were to do such thing it would only be to determine whether it worked with their game as well as they want it to.

I seem to recall a while ago Transgaming offered a demo version of Cedega that lasted for like 2 weeks, is that still around?

eyelessfade
April 23rd, 2007, 09:37 PM
I think only the cvs works without subscription now

Dr. Z2A
April 24th, 2007, 12:35 AM
Also I have an Intel Extreme Graphics 2 card (I noticed the Transgaming site recommends Nvidia cards), which is integrated into the mobo (I'm on a laptop). I have had mixed success with getting 3D on this card. Beryl runs well, as does Nexuiz, Tux Racer, Mupen64, Vegas Strike, and Balazar to name a few, but I have to change UT2k4 and America's Army from OpenGL to Software rendering to make them run at decent speeds. I have never been able to play a newer 3D game under Wine, but that is because the games that I've tried have never actually run (although I will admit that I haven't tried too many), so I haven't been able to even test 3D under Wine. Does anyone know how this card would do with Cedega? If it would do badly, is it unheard of to add a 2nd graphics card to a laptop?

Artificial Intelligence
April 24th, 2007, 01:39 AM
Generally Intel GF cards are not good for gaming and worser in Linux. I don't know if it's possible to get a Nvidia card for laptop (I'm a workstation guy ^_^), but that would be your best choice.

ATI card on linux is still a joke when it comes to drivers (if you compared it to Nvidia). It's horrorous to get installed and work properly, even then it doesn't work for some 3D applications/games and if it do it lacks in performance.

Alvinius
April 24th, 2007, 02:18 AM
Here is your answer for an external video card, comingout very soon http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,128401/article.html or google XG station

compiledkernel
April 24th, 2007, 09:45 AM
My Sys76 Serval has a 256meg PCIex 7600 Go, having gamed on it many times over, I can say that having a high end card in a laptop is a good thing.

Of course thats put in at factory, and not nessecarily something you can add later , like an external card.

tretle
May 1st, 2007, 02:25 PM
Cedega in my view is one of the only appz in linux that I can safely say in my view shares the same characteristics as prostitution. Long live native linux applications. We shouldn't bend ourselves that way :D the windows developers comfortability way that is. And the fact they charge for it is a joke. I know some people would argue that cedega doesn't emulate windows but id like to make it clear i never said it was. But the games were clearly designed to run on windows and bending your linux distro to play them is an abomination in its self. The amount of great native games out there for linux has been growing substantially over the past couple of years. I hope it keeps growing. But back to the point here , no cedega's not worth it.

compiledkernel
May 1st, 2007, 02:30 PM
Ultimately support of Native installers, support of Wine itself rather than paying money directly to Cedega (which I have slowly recessed from), is what will motivate the gaming industry. We are in a cruxed point friends. Vista for all intents is showing a slowing Trend. Dell is offering systems with Ubuntu on them. These kinds of moves and motions are the kinds of things we need to get software companies to hear us crying about native installations.

justin whitaker
May 1st, 2007, 02:34 PM
Cedega in my view is one of the only appz in linux that I can safely say in my view shares the same characteristics as prostitution.

Tell us how you really feel.

But the games were clearly designed to run on windows and bending your linux distro to play them is an abomination in its self.

And I think I should be free to take the titles which I played on Windows, and use them on Linux. I find narrow viewpoints "an abomination".

The amount of great native games out there for linux has been growing substantially over the past couple of years. I hope it keeps growing.

True, and some of them are quite good. None of them are World of Warcraft.

But back to the point here , no cedega's not worth it.

Ok. So you don't play any windows titles on Linux, at least, that is what I gather from your political position, but somehow the code Transgaming generates is not worth it?

n00blar
May 1st, 2007, 11:01 PM
Here are my 2 cents (from a gamer's point of view).

Many, of the most popular games don't run well under Linux..no matter if use wine or cedega. If you want a painless gaming experience - dual boot, period!

Now, with that said..wine is getting much better and some games play nicely under Linux, but not without a glitch or two. If you don't mind dealing with those glitches or some nuances, then you're welcome to play them under Linux.

Wine or cedega...I'm a current customer of cedega, but I'll be canceling my subscription next month. Most of the games that I can play with wine - cedega plays them too, so no point on wasting $5 a month for something that wine does just fine for free. I could end up donating that money to the wine project instead.

Now, both products seem to take just as long to get a particular game to play under Linux, so there really isn't an advantage on paying a subscription fee with cedega - just stick to wine and read their wiki pages on games.

Then again, I strongly suggest that you dual boot if you don't want to go through the hassle of playing around with wine and its settings.

I hope this helps you.

P.S. At this point, I'm able to play World of Warcraft (this game plays almost flawlessly!) and I'm playing around trying to get EverQuest 2 to work with wine.

tretle
May 2nd, 2007, 05:14 PM
to remark on my last post may i just say, that is my opinion of cedega, i feel it is creating a mess in the gaming studio world. Making developers feel if they want to sup[port linux then they just need to make it work with cedega :( bad idea. What i think the people over at cedega should have worked on is a developement studio for developers to code games for multiple os's at a native level for each one. Maybe that would make hd-dvd and blueray disks usefull for games. I respect what transgaming are trying to do for linux gaming but i think they have taken the completely wrong approach. When it could have been so easy for them to innovate instead of emulate :D i still respect their work don't get me wrong.

pixelstuff
May 10th, 2007, 05:34 AM
I am still surprised that cedega seems to be so succesful. When I heard about it first I considered buying such a program, but found the subscription thing on their site. :-&
This cannot be a permanent solution - to buy a game from A and pay a fee to B. If things dont change much and cedega is still necessary in 10 years, its already 600$. I'd buy the program and a new version for up to 60$ in 10 years :)

handy
May 12th, 2007, 10:24 AM
Cedega plays Guild Wars really well! :)

Wine doesn't play GW as well yet, but it will get to it fairly soon I think, like within 6 months.

If you know that Cedega will play the game(s) that you want to play then it is worth the approx' $15- US that it costs to be able to legaly play those games for as long as the last version of Cedega that you were legaly entitled to, works with whatever version of Linux you want to use it on.

Under those circumstances Cedega seems fine, it's the gamers that want to play lots of different windows games that are in trouble, due to what becomes a very expensive piece of software to access some of the games (lucky if it's all of them) that they want to play because they have to subscribe monthly for years, instead of just the minimum 3 months.

You can get the 14 day trial of Cedega 6 here. (http://linux.softpedia.com/get/GAMES-ENTERTAINMENT/Simulation/Cedega-9843.shtml)

Zyphrexi
May 13th, 2007, 10:48 PM
*removed*

it's fine if you want a few games to work. As a past subscriber I can honestly say support is terrible. Honestly, does it really take a month to reply to a question?
you know, when the jerkoffs are PAID to answer my questions about a service that doesn't work with a game that is claimed to be supported.

I just dual boot xp

Zyphrexi
May 16th, 2007, 11:48 AM
*deleted*