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ade234uk
April 22nd, 2007, 11:07 AM
When XP came out everyone wanted to change. Vista seems to have fallen flat on its face. The amount of promotion and $ M$ have pumped in to it, has done little to move people to it.

Everyone I ask says the same thing,

"I'm happy with XP, why do I need to change"
"I'm not paying Microsoft any more money"
"Why cant I get device xyz to work in Vista"
"Vista just look like XP but flashier"

This is certainly not the way Microsoft wanted it. Computing has changed over the last 6 years, and people attitudes have changed as well, they dont like bing bullied by large corporations and they certainly dont like handing over money hand over fist.

I dont think there will ever be a "The Year of Linux", becuase its happening right now. People are slowly finding out about alternatives. When I first started using Linux about 5-6 years ago, there were 0 magazines, and hardly any support for it. Who remembers Mandrake 7 or 8?

Yesterday I found 3 seperate Linux Magazines.

Linux and open sourse is on the up.

heimo
April 22nd, 2007, 11:20 AM
When I first started using Linux about 5-6 years ago, there were 0 magazines,

Can't be true. I definitely remember reading Linux Journal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Journal) earlier than that.

Happy_Man
April 22nd, 2007, 11:35 AM
Yeah, my mom got a new laptop, but turned down the free Vista upgrade offer because "she likes how XP looks better." That's gotta suck for MS, that some people don't even like the new look! :D

mech7
April 22nd, 2007, 11:38 AM
Yeah, my mom got a new laptop, but turned down the free Vista upgrade offer because "she likes how XP looks better." That's gotta suck for MS, that some people don't even like the new look! :D

Then your mom has no taste the standard xp look is so fugly :p

raldz
April 22nd, 2007, 11:53 AM
I have a copy of Windows Vista Ultimate... it only lasted for about 2 hours, then I uninstalled it... I am not happy with all the crap MS put in Vista..

pseudonym
April 22nd, 2007, 12:00 PM
I thought there was going to be a big push by MS to sell 64-bit Vista, but I haven't seen it happen so far. All the ads for Vista and for new computers seem to be for the 32-bit version. Plus there's plenty of press out there warning people off 64-bit because drivers/software developers aren't there yet in sufficient numbers.

My guess is that MS will have 2 bites of the cherry with Vista. For now, Windows users will upgrade/buy new machines with 32-bit Vista, but in 4-5 years' time (or sooner) the 'next version' of Windows will be 64-bit Vista, even though it's already been released.

Sunflower1970
April 22nd, 2007, 12:40 PM
I dont think there will ever be a "The Year of Linux", becuase its happening right now. People are slowly finding out about alternatives. When I first started using Linux about 5-6 years ago, there were 0 magazines, and hardly any support for it. Who remembers Mandrake 7 or 8?

Yesterday I found 3 seperate Linux Magazines.

Linux and open sourse is on the up.

Most of the magazines I've found on Linux are all from the UK. In a local Borders bookstore last weekend, I found 5 different ones. Normally they're on the top shelf, all the way in the back, and kind of hidden in computer magazine section. But, in this particular Borders, they were all right up front & center. Either the person who put the magazines up did that on purpose, or some customer decided to have some fun and rearranged the magazines.

ComplexNumber
April 22nd, 2007, 12:45 PM
Can't be true. I definitely remember reading Linux Journal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Journal) earlier than that.
yeah, i remember having a whole pile of Linux Format magazines in year 2000/2001.

karellen
April 22nd, 2007, 01:00 PM
If it's not broken, don't change it! that's how things go with vista....(vs xp)

viciouslime
April 22nd, 2007, 01:04 PM
Most of the magazines I've found on Linux are all from the UK. In a local Borders bookstore last weekend, I found 5 different ones. Normally they're on the top shelf, all the way in the back, and kind of hidden in computer magazine section. But, in this particular Borders, they were all right up front & center. Either the person who put the magazines up did that on purpose, or some customer decided to have some fun and rearranged the magazines.

We do have quite a lot of linux magazines here, but nothing compared to Germany! I went in a newsagents there two months ago and there must have been at least 20!

Rhapsody
April 22nd, 2007, 01:16 PM
If it's not broken, don't change it! that's how things go with vista....(vs xp)

Actually, Windows XP is fairly broken itself. Problem is, Windows Vista doesn't really fix anything.

It seems that with both Internet Explorer 7 and Windows Vista, Microsoft have gone totally bonkers with the GUI in a desperate attempt to convince people that they're as big a leap as their protracted developments would suggest. Fortunately, not many people are falling for that trick.

srhlefty
April 22nd, 2007, 01:22 PM
I bet if they renamed Vista to XP Service Pack 3, and put it in Windows Update they'd have a larger adoption rate.

blueturtl
April 22nd, 2007, 01:26 PM
There is a rumour going around that Vista has sold a total of 233 copies in China.
In other news.. open-source advocate jumps Bill's speech (http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/20/open-source-protestor-crashes-bill-gates-speech-in-china/).

To add something more on topic, I've seen an unusually high amount of Microsoft advertising (Finland is a small area, so MS isn't so visible here). Local computer sellers were raving like lunatics to some old folk about "how Vista is going to change their lives". I ran, fast. :D

Compucore
April 22nd, 2007, 02:17 PM
I know there is a fairly big following with MS that people who believe in their product will only stck with it. Or with certain flavours of the MS OS. We've seen and I think there was some links on here about that where people stuck with windows 95, 98 & 98SE, or mellenium for that matter. MS is chasing their own tail in trying to always out do the competition like Mac OSX or shoot down linux because it is not like windows.

I have looked as a technician what will work on some things great on a particular OS may not work well on another. MS i think shot itself in the foot with Vista. Way too buggy not all manufacturer have available drivers for it for their brand of product. (Nevern mind of ever getting it for people like us who use a flavor of ubuntu for our video cards and the what nots.) Take a look they have already brought a service ack after the first month of it's release of Vista. Something is definately not right with MS there. I think they have been brainwashing too many people to believe in their products personally.

COmpucore

mips
April 22nd, 2007, 02:22 PM
Can't be true. I definitely remember reading Linux Journal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Journal) earlier than that.

And before Linux mags there were Unix mags like UnixWorld etc. Btw they are archived here http://www.networkcomputing.com/unixworld/unixhome.html

Gmbrdilos
April 22nd, 2007, 02:24 PM
this is why I switched to linux

vista = useless load of unwanted stuff, too big, too expensive, lack of hardware support

jimrz
April 22nd, 2007, 03:09 PM
Most of the magazines I've found on Linux are all from the UK. In a local Borders bookstore last weekend, I found 5 different ones. Normally they're on the top shelf, all the way in the back, and kind of hidden in computer magazine section. But, in this particular Borders, they were all right up front & center. Either the person who put the magazines up did that on purpose, or some customer decided to have some fun and rearranged the magazines.

Border's, like all large retailers, alloctes thier shelf space for reasons. Therefore, they must be seeing an increased interest, since they have moved to a more desirable placement.