What do you want to see in Gutsy Gibbon

[wedderburn]

Everyone out there what do you want to see in ubuntu 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon"

i wouldn't mind seeing some of these things:

Tangofy the iconset or use Tangarine - gnome uses tango style icons, gnome apps are tangofied even open office uses tango icons, currently Feisty has human, tango and old school gnome.
it looks rather messy when you have 2 completely different styles for one desktop.

f-spot for the default photo importer- its installed by default but we use two apps for photo's gthumb and f-spot.

Application splash's- make them all follow the same style and colour, apps like gimp and open office . just so they feel more at home with the desktop.

Posting your ideas in this thread won't get the attention of the developers. To increase your chances of getting heard, you should create a separate thread for each of your ideas according to the guidelines specified by the Forum Ambassadors at this thread.----> http://http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409519

[eXisor]

PATCH BASED UPDATES.

It seems ridiculous that most linux distros still require you to download an entire package because a few kb's have changed.

The benefits are obvious and the lack so dire that this surely must be near the top of the Gutsy Gibbon list.

Common devs, if MS can do it, surely....

[spd106]

I hope to see the nouveau driver and a gui based X server configuration applet.

Let's get Compiz by default as well.

[Bou]

f-spot for the default photo importer- its installed by default but we use two apps for photo's gthumb and f-spot.

Agreed. The F-Spot team is supposedly working in the awkard import folder structure, and EOG will hopefully allow for multiple-picture printing as of 2.20... so I don't know what we would be needing G-Thumb for, that the other two apps won't cover.

[bastiegast]

I hope to see the nouveau driver and a gui based X server configuration applet.

Let's get Compiz by default as well.

+1 for X server and nouveau, but I don't think it will be stable enough in half a year. Anyone know when the next X11 version is scheduled to be released?

Hope to see even better artwork in Gutsy as well. Why doesn't ubuntu have a graphical grub screen? The login screen + login sound also need some improvement.

[prizrak]

PATCH BASED UPDATES.

It seems ridiculous that most linux distros still require you to download an entire package because a few kb's have changed.

The benefits are obvious and the lack so dire that this surely must be near the top of the Gutsy Gibbon list.

Common devs, if MS can do it, surely....

I believe it's on the list actually.
I hope to see the nouveau driver and a gui based X server configuration applet.
It's very much up to nouveau and the community whether they are good enough by the feature freeze. Xorg 7.3 should be ready in time for GG and that will use xrandr instead of xorg.conf. However it will need some work for the binary drivers, xrandr refuses to work right for me with the binary nvidia driver. Then again nvidia has a very nice GUI to control their cards.
Let's get Compiz by default as well.
We already have it in Feisty, it's just not enabled. I don't necessarily think that it should be enabled by default actually, maybe a pop up on first boot asking about it.

[bobbybobington]

Gutsy has got to live up to its name. It needs to tackle issues that haven't really been addressed. The completely free version is an excellent start. It at least needs to at least provide a foundation for features that will really shine in gutsy +1. A lot that needs to be done is small details that make a big difference, like x.org config gui, grub artwork, gnome/kde look.org integration in theme settings, and other details. I'd also like to see some things that were deferred in feisty (like facelogin (http://macslow.thepimp.net/shots/face-browser-mockup-2.png)) to at least be available in the repos.

[SishGupta]

I am looking forward to xOrg 7.3 for sure.

I'd like to see compositing enabled by default. Compiz+Beryl should be ready by then hopefully.

I really want to see a better seamless uspash which was deferred for feisty.

[SishGupta]

I am looking forward to xOrg 7.3 for sure.

I'd like to see compositing enabled by default. Compiz+Beryl should be ready by then hopefully.

I really want to see a better seamless uspash which was deferred for feisty.

In my eyes feisty is exactly what I want ubuntu to be. I have trouble thinking of better ways to improve it except for cosmetically where at times it can still be quite rough around the edges.

[karellen]

bulletproof X
suspend/hibernate/power save working well for laptops

[happy-and-lost]

I want to see these (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38422263/) icons replace the Gnome default iconset and the Pidgin (formerly gaim) icons in /usr/share/pixmaps. It's really annoying having to replace them whenever something gets updated.

Something like Suse's Sax for X configing would be nice, and maybe an "unbreakable" X server (i.e. a working Xorg.conf to replace any broken one automagically)

A choice of Usplash themes would be cool, and maybe a util for making your own.

Finally... Gnome panels which NEVER crash. That'll be the day :D

[prizrak]

Forgot to mention what I want.

How about acerhk module installed and correctly configured out of the box. I have opened a bug on Herd 3 with exact details of where the module can be found and what each key code should be doing for my model and still nothing. It's not that big of a deal to find a .deb, add it to the modules that start up and hook up hotkeys but it would be nice if I didn't have to. It also creates a pretty serious issue for less experienced users. The Bluetooth adapter is off by default, there is a button to turn it on but even with acerhk installed it does nothing. The only way to activate BT is through CLI and it's not an obvious command.

This neatly brings me to second issue. Better Bluetooth, sure file sharing over Bluetooth is as easy as possible. However when it comes to connecting to mice, phones, headphones, headsets and just about anything else you need to drop into the CLI and do it using the tools. BitPim can't open up the port to connect to my phone at all despite the system showing everything working. A nice Bluetooth control panel that would list all the supported profiles and allow for scanning and connecting to devices would go a long way.

Better tablet support. Sure it now works out of the box, but there is still no obvious way of configuring it. I won't mention the screen not flipping on a tablet PC, that's due to the driver not Ubuntu. Would also be nice to have an applet/button/keyboard shortcut/control center entry that can turn off the tablet portion. When it comes to closing a tablet PC if the tablet is enabled you will get random stuff clicked on.

That is complete wishful thinking but I think that Gutsy Tablet Edition - with defaults for tablet users such as an on screen keyboard at GDM and Gutsy HTPC Edition - with MythTV installed and the defaults that make sense there would be very nice.

[Lster]

I think Ubuntu already rocks :D. Only a few points Id like to see:


Icons made consistent and shiny (vectorized?)
Performance: Already faster than a clean Windows Xp install for me.
More hardware support: It's ALOT better in fiesty (for me) but my camera isnt quite perfect...
GNOME Control Center :)! (As some of you dont like it maybe just an easy-to-enable version?)


Cant wait already...

[Pekkalainen]

I have been asking for this since breezy... I want all of my mouse buttons to work without major hacks in xorg.conf please!

[aysiu]

Things I'd like to see that the devs won't do:
build-essential installed by default
ndiswrapper installed by default (yes, I know both are on the CDs, but most new users have no idea they're on the CDs)

Visual feedback from the terminal when entering your password (asterisks or just a blinking cursor every time you hit a key)

Getting rid of the fake "error" message when you use gksudo gedit

Things I'd like to see that the devs might do:
GUIs for configuring /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab
I'm talking comprehensive GUIs, not just what's available right now

An easy way for people who don't have internet connections on their Ubuntu machines to do package management. If you go to http://packages.ubuntu.com, you have to track down every dependency, and you don't know which dependencies are installed or not already. In other words, it'd be something like apt-get for Windows (download only).

Consistent naming. the package ddrescue has the command dd_rescue. The package epiphany-browser has the command epiphany.

On that note, /usr/share/applications/programname.desktop files for all programs in the repositories. No one should have to ask "I installed this program... why isn't it in the menus?"

An official metapackage for a cool Fluxbox or IceWM installation, just as there is xubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop.

[jariku]

I'd like to see metapackages for the Ubuntu Muslim Edition (one for the software, one for the desktop theme and one for the whole deal).

[aysiu]

I'd like to see metapackages for the Ubuntu Muslim Edition (one for the software, one for the desktop theme and one for the whole deal).
Then talk to the maintainers of the Muslim Edition. That's not an official Ubuntu release.

[jariku]

Then talk to the maintainers of the Muslim Edition. That's not an official Ubuntu release.
Oh, ok. I thought it was.

[tbroderick]

I'd like it to print $100 bills.

[ViRMiN]

Yes, with a regional setting for pounds sterling! :D

[mykalreborn]

mono and build-essential installed by default. banshee instead of rhythmbox. beagle (or tracker if they manage to get more features into it). a more consistent icon theme and for goodness sacke a gui make over. feisty looks almost identical to dapper. do not change the dark brown, but make it more modern and "fetching"
my opinion. :D

[drf_av]

+1 for gui to grub menu list and X configuration
A metapackage for enlightenment desktop, as Fluxbox and so was requested...:rolleyes:
:guitar: They won't do it :D

[mustang]

Suspend, hibernate, and better power management on first generation macbooks.

[forrestcupp]

+1 for graphical grub
+1 for automatically putting all installed programs in menus
+1 for beagle
More themes and wallpapers to choose from other than just the default.
And hopefully CNR will be ready for us by then.

[aysiu]

I forgot--two more things:

1) Automounting of new internal hard drives or new partitions. External automounting seems to work fine. Why can't internal automounting work?

2) No more confusing messages. Why should the terminal tell you run dpkg --configure -a when you're really supposed to run sudo dpkg --configure -a? Why should moving a file to a system directory just tell you (an admin user) you don't have permission? How about an automatic gksudo nautilus action with an authentication dialogue...? with, of course, the option to cancel out of the move/copy.

[forrestcupp]

How about the ability to run a 64-bit system, but run 32-bit software when necessary without even having to think about it.

[Quillz]

I'd like to see Gutsy Gibbon include Beryl pre-installed, although not enabled by default.

[Gargamella]

my winxp is still faster on boot than ubuntu...so faster and faster boot time

[daynah]

I wanna see "Disks" back! I liked being able to view my disk usage without having to install something else. :( It was also a gui way to mount. And (look at my sig) that one unanswered post a day that I answer? Usually is someone asking how to mount.

Maybe it's somewhere in Feisty and I haven't found it yet. There's so much in feisty to fiddle and twiddle and wiggle a nd cuuuuddle with. Oh la la!

[mrazster]

Better hardware/driver support.

Automounting of new internal hdd.

And if possiblem try to merge some some config.tools in to one..so that ubuntu and the menu dosen't feel so bloated. with all kind of stupid apps e.t.c

Replace some of the old and uggly artwork with new pretty once.

[Nonno Bassotto]

Agreed. The F-Spot team is supposedly working in the awkard import folder structure, and EOG will hopefully allow for multiple-picture printing as of 2.20... so I don't know what we would be needing G-Thumb for, that the other two apps won't cover.

Last time I tried F-Spot, it didn't have tagging-retrieving capabilities even close to gThumb. When they implement a way to filter your photos (based on more than one tag) and to save the result of the search in dynamic folders, then we can stay without gThumb.

[ComplexNumber]

i want to see much better admin tools. ubuntu is really lacking in that area compared to many other distros.

[konungursvia]

I'm still looking forward to Horny Hog.

[forrestcupp]

I wanna see "Disks" back! I liked being able to view my disk usage without having to install something else. :( It was also a gui way to mount. And (look at my sig) that one unanswered post a day that I answer? Usually is someone asking how to mount.

Maybe it's somewhere in Feisty and I haven't found it yet. There's so much in feisty to fiddle and twiddle and wiggle a nd cuuuuddle with. Oh la la!

in feisty, in Applications->Accessories there is Disk Usage Analyzer. I don't know if you can mount with it, though.

[daynah]

Oooh fancy! Was that there in Edgy? I wasn't on edgy very long, wouldn't be surpised if I missed it.

So that leaves me wanting... a gui way to mount things. Not for me of course. I'm so absolutely genius-i-cal that I know how to mount off the top of my head. Just to help all those silly, disgusting, n00bs. ;)

[FrancoNero]

i wanna see better 64bit support, by that i mean a push towards 64bit software by the ubuntu community, and stop calling it amd64... with all the core duos out there, and all that, it's time to push 64 bit

also, somebody should just make a huge list of what windows does, what mac os does, and what ubuntu lacks. and then not copy it, but do it better....

[matthekc]

+1 for some form of offline package management maybe a set of dvd's with the repos to pull stuff off
My sprint broadband(novatel wireless U720) should work in feisty yea kernel support but that has been very discouraging

Oh yeah one last thing a graphical way to setup my sprint toy

[fletchinho]

Any chance of getting KDE 4.0 by then? :guitar:

[IYY]

Here's what I want:

- Bulletproof X server with GUI configuration (I don't need it, but newbies do). By bulletproof I mean not only that it will load no matter what, but also that it wouldn't crash. I know that this is difficult, but X crashes are among the most common problems, and take down all of the running graphical applications!
- New icons and wallpaper, and some changes to the GTK theme.
- Screenshots in the Add/Remove programs app, and maybe even in Synaptic.
- Eliminate the 'System' menu (since we now have a nifty control panel) and keep only Applications and Places.
- Enable fast desktop search (like Beagle) by default.

And of course, the obvious: add support for more hardware, fix bugs, improve stability, etc.

[maniacmusician]

Any chance of getting KDE 4.0 by then? :guitar:
I read somewhere that Riddell said it's a possibility that they might be able to throw the KDE4.0 beta in there, but they probably won't be pushing it as the default DE for Kubuntu. They'll be sticking with KDE3.5 for a while yet, until they're sure they can reliably push KDE4.

I read it a couple of weeks ago, so I don't have the link, sorry.

[Adamant1988]

Improve on the Art. I think that a good "polished wood" look would really make Ubuntu feel a lot more professional (sort of an office-furniture appearance). Granted this would be a step back for the art since it seems to be doing nothing but getting lighter and more tan than anything.

Other than that I'm pretty happy with Feisty.

[kragen]

I too would like to see better 64-bit support, its been several years since the 64 bit architecture became mainstream, but there still isn't proper java / flash support!!!

I would also like to be able to play all of my video's without needing to resort to installing mplayer or vlc :)

Another vote for bullet-proof x. It's a source of much frustration amongst newer ubuntu users who aren't used to coping without at least access to a web browser to figure out how to fix things. It's also fairly essential in terms of making the OS feel polished and reliable.

I've got a vote against accelerated desktop by default - at least not for the sake of it. If its highly polished and works perfectly, then that's great, by all means throw it in, but last time I checked Beryl was missing simple features like "always on top", and there are still problems with slowdown when resizing - they're also talking about a merge, which means this probably isn't the best time to be looking for a stable Beryl / Compiz release, and in 6 months its probably going to be as easy to get as "apt-get install Compiz" anyway - it doesn't necessarily need to be available by default, unless there are few or none drawbacks (just as fast as normal, no slowdown when running opengl apps etc...)

Seamless usplash would be nice as well, again its not a huge thing, but it is the first thing you see, so a really smooth boot will go a long way towards giving ubuntu a really good 'feel'
I'm a big fan of making linux feel as polished as Microsoft and apple make their products feel. I had an argument with a windows user today about windows vs linux, he's used ubuntu (recently) and his oppinion was "linux is great, but its not user friendly, easy to break, and hard to fix". I disagreed (of course :P) but I could see where he was coming from - its definitely easier to use, and vastly superior in areas such as installation of new programs, and I wouldn't say that it breaks that much more than windows breaks, but at times it can feel very blocky and 90's ish - all the buttons are in the right place, but it doesn't feel like a polished, modern easy to use OS, and whenever it breaks, its always X that breaks, or the kernel doesn't boot.

So while we're at it, another +1 for grub configuration gui, and if possible some level of bullet-proofness as well :D

It would be very very nice if super user file operations were easier in nautilus - If a folder is write protected, then I'd like to be able to do things like "paste as root", or drag and drop as root, or even just open a folder as root. Even if I had to enter my password for every single file operation I did, in my eye's it would still beat the hell out of needing to mess about with the command line or "gksu nautilus".

Sorry, this has turned into a fairly lengthy post :)

[maniacmusician]

but last time I checked Beryl was missing simple features like "always on top", and there are still problems with slowdown when resizing
It's had the "Always on Top" thing for quite a while now. When did you last check? lol There are some problems with resizing, yeah. But, there are different resize modes that you can configure in the Resize Windows plugin. Some of them offer low-resource, but still relatively elegant solutions.

[kragen]

I was using it not long ago... well maybe a month or so, perhaps two if I think about it...

The thing was that the menu option was there, it just wasn't clickable, and if you turned off the gl desktop and put a window on top using metacity, and then turned the gl desktop back on, it would be on top... it was odd...

The resize thing is actually really annoying :P It's not really a compiz only thing - it happens normally as well, its just everything is a little quicker so its not noticeable.

[soliac]

What I really want to see in Gutsy Gibbon is:

Delta/patch/diff updates - us poor dialup users are floundering in the downloading of redundant update data.:(
A visual update - a good looking wallpaper, a panel image, "Usplash till Desktop"!:KS
Xorg 7.3.
Some sort of winmodem detection and/or support out-of-the-box.

[zanglang]

Better driver support, more seamless integration, better incentives for users of other operating systems to switch over. Full VoIP integration (Telepathy) and more internet-enabled applications (a refreshed Pidgin, Conduit?) would be awesome. :D

Edit - And smaller updates! It'll benefit dialup and slow broadband users everywhere: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmallerUpdates

[ricardisimo]

Soliac hit on my vote: out-of-the-box dialup. Fortunately for me (because I never was able to figure out ScanModem, let alone get my Winmodem to work), where I live DSL just became cheaper than dialup, but for a huge swath of the US (and, I assume, the world) there is still no other reasonable alternative. There is no one answer to "why doesn't the world go Linux?", but this is a big one.

[Starchild]

PATCH BASED UPDATES.

It seems ridiculous that most linux distros still require you to download an entire package because a few kb's have changed.

The benefits are obvious and the lack so dire that this surely must be near the top of the Gutsy Gibbon list.

Common devs, if MS can do it, surely....

I second this!

[hardyn]

I real effort in power management, hybernation, and suspend with notebooks, this has been too long in comping. as well as enabling power management in things like wifi boards etc. perhaps add guis to make this a little more integrated.

(is nouveau going to be ready to go in 6 months?)

[Magnes]

I want to see:
- all mouse buttons and wheels working out of the box
- better printers detection (it was in feisty goals, so I think it'll be done)
- faster boot
- better support of adsl modems (some gui for configuration and loading external firmware?) so users of usb adsl modems could connect to internet via livecd
- even easier installation and configuration, so users with no computer knowledge at all could install and use Ubuntu

[Choad]

if suspend/hibernate works in feisty for me, then i'll be happy as can be.

if not, i want it. other things:

- power efficiency
- nouveau
- scrap mono

[forrestcupp]

It would be very very nice if super user file operations were easier in nautilus - If a folder is write protected, then I'd like to be able to do things like "paste as root", or drag and drop as root, or even just open a folder as root. Even if I had to enter my password for every single file operation I did, in my eye's it would still beat the hell out of needing to mess about with the command line or "gksu nautilus".

Install nautilus-gksu. It's in the repositories. It makes nautilus do exactly what you want with a right click.

I think they should make it install with a grub entry for booting to a graphical safe mode. I know they make one to boot to console (which is great), but how about one that boots to x with a generic video driver, without composite and all the things that could cause problems? A graphical safe mode, like Windows has. It would be very helpful. But if they end up with bullet-proof x, I guess it would boot to that automatically if necessary. But still, the choice would be nice.

[Almighty]

I would to see A future version of Ubuntu with a media center option (Mythtv) built into the OS like Vista has with their MCE. I know multimedia will always be a struggle but I know it would make my life easier.

[G Morgan]

if suspend/hibernate works in feisty for me, then i'll be happy as can be.

if not, i want it. other things:

- power efficiency
- nouveau
- scrap mono

Out of interest, why scrap Mono. That would be a huge kick in the teeth to Miguel De Icaza who has done nothing to earn it and it is perfectly safe from patent issues if you stick with OSS centric class libraries like GTK# (consider the .Net stuff to be there for the same reason as Wine). The patents for the core tools have been placed under a redistributable patent license by MS.

Personally I'd like to see:
1. SELinux
2. Xen enabled kernel available (if it does this already then I apologise for suggesting it doesn't but I've not seen it advertised)
3. Good support for the Xen Hypervisor and tool set.

The first two are preferable. SELinux is these days looking like a must have given that many other distros are shipping with it on by default. The Xen enabled kernel would be nice because I'm intending to move my main machine to a VM setup (using CentOS 5) and would like to be able to run Ubuntu paravirtualised.

[Happy_Man]

1. A Xorg that won't crash. Ever. EVER. Windows' GUI never crashes....does it? It's either a hardware or system crash. For that matter, Macs don't crash on anything...isn't Mac OS X derived from Linux?

2. Better support for Beryl/Compiz. I'm not necessarily asking them to be installed by default, just that if you wanted to, it'd be easier. Right now, it involves compiling and installing drivers, having your X server crash (see #1), getting it working, getting scared out of your wits a million times, so that when you finally do get it working, you begin to ask yourself whether 4.5 hours of effort just for wobbly windows was worth it.

3. A better icon theme -- in fact, just more polish all around. Right now, I think the Ubuntu theme is good, but when I see the hard drive icon I have to wonder why the icon devs skimped. Newbs coming into Ubuntu see the brown, they see the folders, they think, "wow, that looks pretty good." Then they kinda poke around, and see some butt-ugly icons and are immediately reminded of Windows. Billy Gates skimped on his icons too. (Task Manager, anyone?) Since the point of Ubuntu is to not be like Windows, wouldn't it be better if the devs took some extra time to polish the theme off a bit? I mean, there are definitely people who think this besides me, and we'd willingly help out. Again, Stevie Jobs has his iconset pimped out. I dare somebody to get on a Mac OS X system and find one icon that is from an earlier version. First impressions are everything, and an iconset goes a long way in establishing a good one.

[aysiu]

1. A Xorg that won't crash. Ever. EVER. Windows' GUI never crashes....does it? It's either a hardware or system crash. For that matter, Macs don't crash on anything...isn't Mac OS X derived from Linux? That simply isn't true. Mac and Windows do crash (you're right--it's usually not the display crashing--it's the whole system). To some end-users a command-prompt may be about as useless as a crashed system, but at least the command-prompt can be useful to some people. I've had random crashes in XP I couldn't get out of without a hard reboot. My wife has had the same on OS X.

You're right, though: there should be a mechanism in place for a truly bullet-proof-x. I'm not sure if Feisty's is 100% bullet-proof yet.

[G Morgan]

X.org are looking at defaulting to a low resolution VGA or VESA environment on the event of a failure. This should be a fail safe system in most cases. Of course it will still do nothing if somebody pushed broken packages ;) . I've honestly not had problems though, is it ATI users who have a problem or is it general users.

[el_itur]

I'm comming late, as usual, to this thread, but anyway, here are my wishes for gutsy:
meta-tracker agressive adoption, something like the work made with compiz but on a lower level.
some tracker based apps like affinity would be cool.

adoption of apps as dates, contact, and some tinymail based mail client would be cool too. I believe those are the apps the really fit with the unix programming philosofy (one app for one taks and little apps that coexist with each other).

Nothing else from now on.

[thk]

i want to see much better admin tools. ubuntu is really lacking in that area compared to many other distros.

Yes! I'm amazed how little attention this gets on the forums. Seems few folks around here deal with networks of workstations. Its a real weakness.

[thk]

Integrate the unison protocol (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) into nautilus. Right click on a path and choose 'synchronize with server' and fill in the details.

[Puppy fam]

Ok, this is kind of a strange wish... Maybe it isn't even possible.

I'd love if they rearranged the file structure in Gutsy: have all files related to an app in one single folder, not spread all around everywhere.

I don't know it this would cause huge problems, but I know the file structure confused me when I first switched to Ubuntu, and still throws me for a loop occasionally.

Maybe I'm just weird, but I think the default theme in Ubuntu could use a make-over. I just don't like it too much. :-$

[hardskinone]

Drop Mono, Beagle at least
Use tracker instead, integrate it with other apps trough libtracker
Keep more then an eye to privacy with encrypt home out of the box
Performance, specially on boot/shutdown sequences
Smaller updates: delta patch?
Integrate F-Spot with other applications or drop it.
Bulletproof X
Let me suggest Tracker+Nautilus tags one more time.
Tools for personal backup out of the box + backup reminder with notification

[picpak]

Delta updates, even for dist-upgrades -- those take a long time even on high speed!
Have gnome-app-install detect .desktop files in /usr/share/applications as well as in /usr/share/app-install/desktop, even for uninstalled programs. This way you can install almost anything through gnome-app-install.

aysiu covered everything else I wanted.

[G Morgan]

Ok, this is kind of a strange wish... Maybe it isn't even possible.

I'd love if they rearranged the file structure in Gutsy: have all files related to an app in one single folder, not spread all around everywhere.

I don't know it this would cause huge problems, but I know the file structure confused me when I first switched to Ubuntu, and still throws me for a loop occasionally.

Maybe I'm just weird, but I think the default theme in Ubuntu could use a make-over. I just don't like it too much. :-$

Can't see that happening. It would require repackaging everything and changing whole swathes of infrastructure. Have a look at GoboLinux, they fiddle with their FHS.

Also another post against Mono. What do people have against what is essentially a programming environment. I know the developer works for Novell and the original idea was from MS but this seems to be a case of personalising what is just a technology. It's like saying you want your car built without bolts because bolts are evil. Mono is a great environment and I repeat that it is as safe from patent issues as anything else provided you avoid the MS class libraries and stick with the Linux ones as most projects do. The core technologies are even safer than most things because we know there are patents on it and have redistributable patent licenses from MS, this makes it GPLv3 safe.

[maniacmusician]

I'd say that the people wishing for the removal of mono don't completely understand what mono is about; they just picked up bits and pieces from articles and arguments about it.

[Ireclan]

I would like to see:

*A graphical GRUB splash.
*Visual feedback when typing in a password.
*Bulletproof X.
*Proper shutdown support (my computer never shuts down by itself, I always have to manually turn it off when the bar empties).

On another note, I am against even the INCLUSION of Compiz/Beryl by default, as I have heard nothing but bad things in regards to system stability concerning these applications and am of the belief that they add NOTHING to the productivity of desktop environment. While the productivity issue could be argued for advanced theming as a whole, I feel compelled to remind you all that at least the other aspects of theming a system are not reported to be as unstable as Compiz/Beryl.

[maniacmusician]

Hey everyone. You'll be interested to know that the Gutsy Gibbon Development Forum has now been opened.

As a Forum Ambassador (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400685), I'm glad that you guys want to get your ideas out there. But the reality is, your idea will probably not get heard by the developers if you just post a little paragraph into this thread. But the Forum Ambassadors team can help. In order to have the best possible chances of getting your good ideas heard, you should follow the instructions at this thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409519).

This will ensure that your ideas are in a clear, specification-based format. Then, the FA team will look at all the ideas, select the ones that are well written and have a possibility of making it into Gutsy, and file those as official specs in Launchpad. We'll be doing this tirelessly for the next 3 weeks or so, to get as many things filed as possible before UDS(Ubuntu Developer Summit)-Sevilla. This means that when the developers get together to discuss the future of Gutsy, they'll be able to look at all these specs and discuss them.

There is a small window of opportunity here, and we want to nail it. We can do it, with your cooperation and support. So, once again, follow the instructions at this thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409519), and use that format to post your ideas in the Gutsy forum. Only one idea per thread, please.

We really appreciate your help and cooperation in this matter. Let's get this done.

Thank you.

[chicken101]

I would like to see better search functionality. Here is my experience with beagle search. I usually tag all my photos in F-spot; for example, I would tag a photo with "benjamin" or something like that. When I search for it in beagle, I have to type in "benjamin" because typing in "ben" yields no results at all. Sometimes I don't exactly know what my tags are, and it can get pretty irritating when I can't find a picture.

The features of compiz/beryl should be better integrated into ubuntu, and it would be cool to see an "ubuntu-widgets" program.

[black_magician]

I'd like to have wireless support for MSCHAPV2 authentication built in.

[caffienefree]

My list (That I can think of right now):

1. xorg-edit included by default, as an interface for new users to xorg.conf.
2. Coherent backup and restore center.
3. Some sort of system restore functionality (Similar to Windows) that can be triggered from a live-cd or from within Ubuntu.
4. Intuitive configuration wizards. With pointy hats.

[zekopeko]

integret tracker into nautilus and make default tags like Applications, Movies, Audio , Books etc.

when you put a new movie/music on your system it gets auto-taged with one of the predefined tags (also give a GOOD app with which we could set triggers for tags; ie: Tag ALL 128kbps mp3/ogg files
in /home/$USER/).

the point being: META-TAG everything.

[Extreme Coder]

Personally, I would like: (in no specific order)
1 - a) The Xubuntu release should come with a more lightweight graphical manager instead of GDM, like PuTTY or something similar.
- b) Adding better system and configuration tools to Xubuntu.

2 - a) I would like it if I could remove some of the installed apps or games that come with the system
- b) The ability to remove packages installed with Gdebi through g-a-i ( I have a friend of mine who uses Ubuntu, and he is afraid from Synaptic ;) )

3 ) More gui tools in general like for configuring grub. A new user might get the impression of hard when they see a terminal. I know lots of my friends did. One very important tool needed is a X.Org configuration tool.

4 ) Fix the highly unusable modem tool in network configuration in Ubuntu ( or atleast replace it with GNOME-PPP)

5 ) Bullet-proof-x. Should use VGA or VESA driver when the default one crashes.

6 ) Desktop Search(beagle or Tracker)

7 ) Make the theme more orange, it works much better than brown.

8 ) Remove gThumb. We already have F-Spot.

9 ) DELTA UPDATES. This one IMO is the most important of them all. It would be really useful to a lot of users, whether they use dial-up or not. Also really useful in testing. I had to download ~350 MB everytime just the packages got its version number changed or something very small in it while I was trying Feisty. I am back to Edgy untill Feisty is released because of that ;)

10 ) A way to make Desktop Effects work with XGL. But I don't think this is ihat important since only ATI users with proprietary drivers would make use of that.

11 ) A 'Welcome to Ubuntu' screen on startup. IMO, this is very important too. It should contain mini-guides for the basic stuff, and links for further information and help. I think there is such a project going on already.

12 ) The log-in manager should contain a way to select the user by the mouse, and only typing the password like in XP. It's already possible in GDM or KDM, just needs a theme to use it. OR use a face selector(this feature was refused in Feisty)

13 ) Better support for Bluetooth in GNOME. Bluetooth in KDE works beautifully ( I tried it), but I didn't try it yet on GNOME. But I heard it isn't good.

14 ) Automounting for internal hard drives and partitions. It's common practice here to move your hard disk around all the time ;).

15 ) Applications should have all features installed into them when they're installed, like Nautilus should also be installed with nautilus-gksu, nautilus-audio-converter, nautilus-sendto, nautilus-*. Same case for other essential programs ( like the ones that come with Ubuntu)

16) Better CPU scaling support, especially for Core Duo's(No need to fiddle with text files and such)

18 ) Better support for peripherals, such as winmodems and cameras.

19 ) Better adminstration tools.

20 ) More polish overall.

I am very sorry, I just wrote everything I want to be added to Ubuntu :D
But I would be content with only 5 of these :P
Extreme Coder

[amrlima]

I would like to see many new things in gutsy, these include (not necessarily by order of importance):

- Bullet proof X
- Composite by default (if problems with performance due to driver issues are solved)
- New artwork (pleassse). I know we can change everything quite fast, but a default new theme would be nice... The include:
-A new default color that would be easier on eyes (even keeping the same tonalities)
-New wallpaper(s), some variety of choice would be nice
-And a new icon theme. Human is nice, but I think tango (or even tangerine) is more consistent. A redesigned tango??
- Faster boot
- Slick Boot
- Better voip (for example telepathy)
- Some new feature that would surprise us all :)

[G Morgan]

People have asked for automounting of internal HDDs. Given that I tend to have a highly customised partitioning scheme I'm wary of such a feature. If it is to be installed then it must be easy to disable, I have things like back up partitions and private data I would prefer didn't get automounted. The same can be said of /boot, many do not mount boot to avoid easy access to the kernel image for any potential exploit.

There are also other issues. Automount for NTFS would use the in kernel driver I suspect in place of the more complete FUSE driver.

Personally I think it would be more trouble than it is worth. Perhaps a better system would be an easy to use GUI tool for configuring fstab. It would pop up when it detects a new partition or drive and offer a default mount point with the option to customise things. I feel this would suit the use case much better than a fully automated system. Usually people who mount other partitions do so because they contain their data and would like more control over where it gets mounted. The real barrier isn't automount but the text configuration of fstab. A simple to use GUI tool that allows them more configurability would much better suit this task IMHO.

[Mr. Picklesworth]

Building on Zekopeko's thought:
How about those emblems serving a functional purpose as tags, as well?

For the most part, I want to see Gusty as a cleanup release. Looking at Ubuntu on Launchpad, the current state for bug reports is absurd!

However, polish is more than just fixing bugs: I'm thinking a focus on improvements to what we have, rather than adding more. Ubuntu can't just be big; it has to feel smooth!

This is done with all those minor improvements:

-Search in Nautilus searches in current folder, not everywhere. (I explain why in a thread on the topic. Where did the Feisty section go?!)

-"This file cannot be opened. Do you want to search for a program to open it?" (Done with MIME types in the .desktop entry; it's already possible).

-Menu rearrangements, particularly the System menu (I wrote many thoughts for this in a thread, also in the now-deceased Feisty section). Hardware Information is not a preference, and seeing the running processes in the current session is not an administrative act.

-Boot without looking at a terminal, blackness, or loading without a progress bar. The Gnome splash disappears way too soon; my desktop is still inactive for ages after that thing goes away! (Yes, I have a slow computer). The uSplash needs to have terminal output like the disk checker within itself, rather than taking over.

-F-Spot or gThumb? Make up your mind! (My vote goes for a more F-Spotish gThumb; F-Spot seems more a lost cause).

-The Theme UI does not take into account the engine used. This means that if I create a theme identical to Human except with the Clearlooks engine, it will not let me switch to that theme. (It will just assume it's identical and switch back to Human thanks to one of its features).

-I've yet to post on this one, but does anyone find it weird how the help center tells you precisely what 20 buttons to press in order to achieve a specific task, but won't just offer to do it for you? It would be really cool -- and innovative -- if it had a collection of wizards to make tasks easily achieved via a central search system.

-The Nautilus open file menu is weird. Why does it have a Create Folder button, but absolutely no other options? What if I want to delete that folder I accidentally created?

-Also with the Nautilus Open File menu: It has a nice way of handling manual input of paths. As you type, a list appears with possible completions for what you are typing, which is quite nice compared to Nautilus' way (which is just the one autocomplete, highlighted, in front of what you are typing). It makes no sense that the two are different, so Nautilus should adopt the file open menu's way, preferably using the same code to keep stuff tidy under the hood.

-The Open Folder dialog is confusing for some people because it looks exactly like the Open File dialog. Couldn't it be presented in a way that better explains the difference?

-Various UI inconsistencies are bothering me. I turned off detachable menus and turned on configurable menu accelerators, but some GTK apps do not follow that (The GIMP -- how is it that that program is the birthplace of GTK and yet has one of its ugliest implimentations, by the way? --, and Freeciv are examples of this). I am guessing this is because they are not GTK+ 2. Couldn't the menu configure both?

-More configuration. We don't need more programs, or even many more buttons, to achieve this. Just add a checkbox somewhere and we can have the Screen Resolution program changing the resolution for the login window instead of just the current account.

-Better session saving in Ubuntu. Take a look at Xubuntu's log out window: It has a nice little check box at the bottom to save session. Again, a simple addition that hardly gets in the way and yet manages to make the thing really smooth!

-The typing break enforcing could use a bit of inspiration from Workrave. I switched to Workrave because I could tell it not to lock input (thus, if I am for some reason playing a full screen game I don't get an embarrassing 5 minutes of inactivity).

-I like how the Update Manager tells you in a little blurb why updates are a good thing. It's really professional and helps users. Kind of going back to the last point, a few screens like the typing break screen could use that, as well. "STOP! Take a break" just doesn't cut it.

-Gimpshop! As I mentioned in a very long digression earlier, The GIMP's UI is very ugly. Gimpshop's, on the other hand, is a bit nicer. Could fit well in one of the repositories.

-Nautilus' file previews are cool, but could be cooler. I had a strange glitch a while ago (couldn't reproduce it) where an audio preview icon appeared over a video. Nothing happened, but it got me thinking! Okay, my horrible box here can't do video previews and people probably wouldn't be too interested (although if possible, they would be amazing), but it could preview the audio of those videos as it previews the audio of audio files. Also, the previews should use a more regular library to work (gstreamer?!). Mpg123/mpg321 have to be installed seperately, thus seem cluttery and make audio previews not an automagic feature.

-Something that I wish would happen in GTK, but I know won't: Search within menus. Wouldn't it be great if, instead of navigating those huge and complicated menus of certain programs, you could just type what you want and have a search box appear? (As with list boxes).


-The *buntu desktop packages (kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, etc.) and the package manager could use some improvements. I'm not talking huge improvements, just a change. At the moment, with something like Kubuntu, you either install the whole desktop or you don't install it. This is thanks to the dependencies of the packages: They claim to DEPEND on packages that are completely within userspace and have absolutely nothing to do with the smooth operation of said desktops. These should all be either recommended or suggested, depending on how much they have to do with the environment. Then there could be a change to the package installer, where it recognizes when a package has suggested packages to come with it. (Again, this was posted in the Feisty section and is now lost). The installer could ask, in a way similar to InstallShield but better, what should be done. A minimal install (no recommended or suggested packages), a full install (recommended and suggested packages), or to install packages selected by the user? This means that if someone wants to try xubuntu for example but not install all the programs that come with it, he can!


Okay, it gets a bit less minor as the list goes on, but these are still changes to existing programs and tools, not whole new deals. Ubuntu needs to feel more like a cohesive desktop and less like a collision of programs under the same orangey roof.

[dspari1]

Please note: I understand that some of the stuff that I am asking for is out of the control of the Ubuntu team, but I am posting it anyway because the ubuntu team may have some influence over these projects.

For ubuntu:
1. I want to see totem-gstreamer to be more compatible with streaming videos.Totem-gstreamer does not work with www.gamespot.com streaming videos. (Works fine with xine and mplayer)

2. Firefox needs improvement with its flash player. www.foxnews.com and www.abcnews.com does not work on firefox, but works in konqueror. www.worldofwarcraft.com displays a black boarder that shouldn't be there.

3a. I would like to see better midi support because the steps on making simple midi files work as of now is too complicated:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiHardwareSynthesisSetup
OR
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo

3b. A midi player for gnome because the player that Timidity has is ugly and is not user friendly. The midi plugin for xmms causes my computer to freeze when I try to close it. Kmid works perfect, but I believe there needs to be a gnome alternative that is comparable.

4. We want Compiz/Beryl to be installed by default. Again, I know that this may be out of your hands as well.


For kubuntu:
1. kdebi (gdebi ported to kde)

2. Kaffeine to have automatic codec downloads like Totem-gstreamer does.

3. KMplayer plugin for firefox.

4. adept_updater to have an icon in the main menu by default (I had to create it)

5. Better midi support as stated previously.

6. Konqueror doesn't work with www.msnbc.com, but works with firefox. (Konqueror actually has been giving me better results than firefox when it comes to compatibility)

I can't think of any other issues that I am having right now, but I hope this is a good list.

[amano]

Fix the drag and drop bug from hell if the gnome guys aren't able/willing to fix it by themselves (see the link in my signature).

+1 --> a GUI to edit the GRUB entries (important for dual booters)

a key to toggle on/off silent mode for the boot messages (see opensuse)

different ubuntu "styles" and a UI to choose from (eg. classic 2 bar gnome style vs. modern "opensuse" style with 1 bar, SLED and control center and maybe a third "style")

Add graphical frontends to some common emulators to the repositories to make them easier to use (eg. dbgl for DosBox and E-UAE for - well - UAE).

Add CDemu (= support for common disc images) to Ubuntu (maybe hook it up in Nautilus via right click menu). http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/

Well. Those are the things that would give a gibbon "balls" (I think).

:popcorn:

[jaakan]

Make it easy to add to a domain.

Sub options for servers like Add/remove for Server Functions.

A menu that could ask the user or Admin what they would like to do or the computer to do.

[maniacmusician]

I'm seeing some great ideas here so far. But remember that if you actually want the developers to see any of this, you're going to have to work a little harder and put it in a format that allows the Forum Ambassadors to write it up as a specification and add it to Launchpad in time for UDS-Sevilla. Here for more info. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409519)

[GoHabsGo]

I don't know if this has been posted, but I was surfing with FireFox, and I had that idea. Why the middle click could not open everything in a "tab". I mean, so many times I want to do more than one action from all the given choices in a File menu, Edit menu, or System Preferences Menu from the Ubuntu main menu. Imagine we could middle click on a program or a action, so It can open without having to return to the same location to open another program. What do you guys think of that ? Could you imagine surfing without tabs ? I'm starting to think the same could be implemented to Gnome or KDE and it would undoubtedly increase the usability of Ubuntu .So many times, I want to open more than one program from the Ubuntu main Menu, and I'm forced to do it separately. If this works well for Internet surfing, why it wouldn't work with Gnome "surfing" ?

Thanx for your input.

[Exclamation]

I would like to see an official firefox32 package (that would replace the regular 64bit one) in repo's for amd64, for easy java/flash as that is what keeps many people from using the 64bit version.

[~LoKe]

I'd like to see LinuxMCE included by default, but since LMCE is fresh, I doubt that'll happen. Just tired of the installtion issues. =[

[aysiu]

I'm closing the current thread.

The proper method for giving suggestions has been laid out in this thread:
Have your say in Gutsy Gibbon! - Instructions within. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409519)

If you have suggestions, make them using those instructions contained within.